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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries
Posted: December 10th, 2020, 2:19 am
by Kazyan
Yet another boring SW-2, worth posting (but not using) because it comes from a wacky Bellman result.
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x = 17, y = 18, rule = B3/S23
8b2o$7bo2bo$7b3obo$10bobo2b2o$7b2o3bo3bo$7bob3ob3o$11bobo$8b2obobo$8b
2ob2o6$o$obo$3o$2bo!
It looks like an eater2 and the drifter catalyst had an ugly baby.
Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries
Posted: December 10th, 2020, 6:16 am
by Hdjensofjfnen
Kazyan wrote: December 10th, 2020, 2:19 am
Yet another boring SW-2, worth posting (but not using) because it comes from a wacky Bellman result.
Code: Select all
x = 17, y = 18, rule = B3/S23
8b2o$7bo2bo$7b3obo$10bobo2b2o$7b2o3bo3bo$7bob3ob3o$11bobo$8b2obobo$8b
2ob2o6$o$obo$3o$2bo!
It looks like an eater2 and the drifter catalyst had an ugly baby.
Reduction by 2 cells:
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x = 17, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
$10b2o$11bo$11bob2o$10b2o2bo$7b2o3bo$7bob3ob4o$11bobo2bo$8b2obobo$8b2o
b2o6$o$obo$3o$2bo!
Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries
Posted: December 10th, 2020, 9:47 am
by Naszvadi
Eater-supported ship-bit - turns back glider on set:
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x = 27, y = 7, rule = LifeHistory
7.2C14.2C$7.C.C13.C.C$8.2C15.C$25.2C$.2C$C.C$2.C!
Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries
Posted: December 10th, 2020, 3:35 pm
by wwei23
Blinker catalysis, I noticed this in an RLE showing sparkers not working properly.
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x = 7, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
5bo$5bo$bo3bo$2bo$3o6$5b2o$5b2o!
Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries
Posted: December 11th, 2020, 5:58 pm
by Kazyan
This might not be completely useless, just borderline.
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x = 49, y = 54, rule = LifeHistory
.A$2.A$3A16$34.2C.C$34.C.2C2.C$38.3C$27.C7.2C$27.3C5.C.4C$30.C10.C$
29.2C5.2C2.2C$36.2C3$18.C$18.3C$21.C$20.2C$25.2C$24.C.C20.2C$25.C6.C
14.2C$31.C.C$31.C.C$17.2C13.C7.C$17.2C20.C.C$39.2C$44.2C$44.C$45.3C$
47.C3$28.2C$24.2C2.2C5.2C$24.C10.C$25.4C.C5.3C4.3A$29.2C7.C4.A$25.3C
16.A$25.C2.2C.C$28.C.2C!
Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries
Posted: December 11th, 2020, 8:49 pm
by MathAndCode
Kazyan wrote: December 11th, 2020, 5:58 pm
This might not be completely useless, just borderline.
It's nice to see that someone else is
thinking along the same lines as me. Unfortunately, the only way to fix that is to hook it up to another copy of itself, which leads to high repeat time.
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x = 63, y = 69, rule = B3/S23History
35.2A$34.A.A$28.2A4.A$26.A2.A2.2A.4A$26.2A.A.A.A.A2.A$29.A.A.A.A$29.A
.A.2A$30.A2$43.2A$34.2A7.A$34.2A5.A.A$41.2A6$9.A$9.3A19.2A$12.A19.A$11.
2A16.3A$29.A2$3.2A$3.A$2A.A$A2.3A4.2A47.A$.2A3.A3.2A46.A.A$3.4A51.A.A
$3.A15.2A36.2A.2A$4.3A12.A.A39.A$7.A13.A10.2A23.2A.A$2.5A14.2A8.A2.A22.
2A.A.A$2.A28.3A.A25.2A$4.A29.A$3.2A18.A7.2A$23.3A5.A.4A$26.A10.A10.2A
$25.2A5.2A2.2A10.2A$32.2A7$21.2A$20.A.A20.2A13.2A$21.A6.A14.2A13.2A$27.
A.A$27.A.A$18.D9.A7.A$17.2D16.A.A18.2A$16.2D17.2A19.A$17.2D21.2A15.3A
$40.A18.A$41.A$40.2A3$24.2A$20.2A2.2A5.2A$20.A10.A$21.4A.A5.3A4.3C$25.
2A7.A4.C$21.3A16.C$21.A2.2A.A$24.A.2A!
There's another way for a beehive to serve as a one-glider seed for an R-pentomino, but that wouldn't have the right position either. Unfortunately, because gliders are small and move only forwards rather than outwards, they're practically impossible to perturb with stable, permanent catalysts without being completely eaten, so any G→X would requires a transparent catalyst, which typically does not get put back. The only exception that I know of is
this reaction.
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x = 12, y = 15, rule = Symbiosis
9.B.B$9.2B$10.B9$2.2B$.B2.B$A.2B.A$2.A!
#C [[ GPS 15 T 34 PAUSE 1.3 ]]
Unfortunately, Symbiosis conduits are only a proof of concept and not a proof of practicality. In this case, the interaction involves a fairly large die-off of cells, and the two cells that the glider interacts with must stick out beyond the rest of the conduit, which makes recovery difficult. This method only has a possibility of being worth searching because of the difficulty of finding ways to reform the initial object that the glider crashed into in the exact same spot with the correct orientation.
Also, while I was editing your conduit, I found that the placement of the snake-style conduit in Conduit 1 is just right for a boat-bit reaction with the first natural glider of the Herschel that would form if one removes the block (although it's almost certainly only an independent discovery). I also found a useless B eater (which is also almost certainly an independent discovery).
Code: Select all
x = 5, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
2bo$b3o$bob2o4$2bobo$bob2o$bo$2o!
Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries
Posted: December 12th, 2020, 1:13 am
by yujh
rt reduced:
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x = 62, y = 68, rule = LifeHistory
35.2A$34.A.A$28.2A4.A$26.A2.A2.2A.4A$26.2A.A.A.A.A2.A$29.A.A.A.A$29.A
.A.2A$30.A2$43.2A$34.2A7.A$34.2A5.A.A$41.2A6$9.A$9.3A19.2A$12.A19.A$
11.2A16.3A$29.A2$3.2A$3.A$2A.A54.A$A2.3A4.2A45.A.A$.2A3.A3.2A45.A.A$
3.4A49.2A.2A$3.A15.2A39.A$4.3A12.A.A9.2A23.2A.A$7.A13.A4.2A2.A2.A22.
2A.A.A$2.5A14.A.2A2.A2.3A.A25.2A$2.A17.2A2.3A6.A$4.A17.A7.2A$3.2A17.
3A5.A.4A$25.A10.A10.2A$24.2A5.2A2.2A10.2A$31.2A7$20.2A$19.A.A20.2A13.
2A$20.A6.A14.2A13.2A$26.A.A$26.A.A$17.D9.A7.A$16.2D16.A.A18.2A$15.2D
17.2A19.A$16.2D21.2A15.3A$39.A18.A$40.A$39.2A3$23.2A$19.2A2.2A5.2A$
19.A10.A$20.4A.A5.3A4.3C$24.2A7.A4.C$20.3A16.C$20.A2.2A.A$23.A.2A!
Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries
Posted: December 12th, 2020, 6:34 am
by Hunting
MathAndCode wrote: December 11th, 2020, 8:49 pm
Code: Select all
x = 12, y = 15, rule = Symbiosis
9.B.B$9.2B$10.B9$2.2B$.B2.B$A.2B.A$2.A!
#C [[ GPS 15 T 34 PAUSE 1.3 ]]
Unfortunately, Symbiosis conduits are only a proof of concept and not a proof of practicality.
Why do you need
that catalyst? It does nothing more than:
Code: Select all
x = 11, y = 15, rule = Symbiosis
8.B.B$8.2B$9.B10$2B$2B$.A!
Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries
Posted: December 12th, 2020, 3:03 pm
by MathAndCode
yujh wrote: December 12th, 2020, 1:13 am
rt reduced:
That reduces the repeat time from 476 to 468. It's progress—although unfortunately, not much.
Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries
Posted: December 12th, 2020, 7:27 pm
by wwei23
Messed up a bumper phasing, ended up with a skewed pulsar.
Code: Select all
x = 34, y = 28, rule = B3/S23
30b2o$30bo$16bobo9bobo$17b2o9b2o$17bo2$24b2o$23bo2bo$23bobo$24bo$2b2o$
3bo$3bobo$4b2o22b2o2bo$24b2o2b2o3bo$24b2o7bo$8b2o19b4o$7bo2bo$8bobo$9b
o4$4b2o$2obo2bob2o$o4bo2b2o$4bo$bobo!
EDIT:
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x = 14, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
o7bo$3o3b3o$3bobo$2b2ob2o2$4bo$bo2bo2bo$bo2bo2bo$2o2bo2b2o$bo5bo!
Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries
Posted: December 13th, 2020, 7:43 pm
by C28
interesting but useless still-life:
Code: Select all
x = 6, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
b2o$o2bo$obobo$bob3o$3b3o2$3b3o$bob3o$obobo$o2bo$b2o!
Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries
Posted: December 13th, 2020, 8:21 pm
by bubblegum
C28 wrote: December 13th, 2020, 7:43 pm
interesting but useless still-life:
Code: Select all
x = 6, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
b2o$o2bo$obobo$bob3o$3b3o2$3b3o$bob3o$obobo$o2bo$b2o!
I take it you tried to put two molds together? That's
loaf siamese loaf.
Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries
Posted: December 14th, 2020, 10:24 am
by wwei23
4c/8 partial:
Code: Select all
x = 7, y = 5, rule = LifeHistory
2A.4B$2A2.3B$.2B2ABA$.2BA2BA$.3B3A!
EDIT: I noticed that this can put a glider in front of a glider 19 ticks away.
Code: Select all
x = 20, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
9bobo$8bo10bo$8bo8b2o$8bo2bo6b2o$8b3o$bobo$2b2o10bobo$2bo11b2o$15bo$8b
o$7bobo$7b2o17$3o$2bo$bo!
Edit 2: The P9 heavyweight emulator can support the long barge hassling reaction. Said reaction can also be overclocked to P6:
Code: Select all
x = 76, y = 37, rule = B3/S23
22bob2o4b2obo33b2o$22b2o2bo2bo2b2o27bob2obobo$20b2o3bo4bo3b2o25b2obobo
$19bo3b2ob4ob2o3bo29b2o$20b3obobo2bobob3o29b2o$22bobob4obobo33bo3bo2b
2o$24bo2b2o2bo37b2obo2bo$25b2o2b2o41bobo$66b3o4bo$61b2o4b6o$23b2o6b2o
28bobo3b3o$23bobo4bobo30bo7b2o2bo$24b2o4b2o31b2o5bob4o$27b2o37bo$22b5o
2b5o27b5o2b2ob3o$21bo12bo25bo4bo3bo3bo$22b3o6b3o27b3obob2ob3o$25bo4bo
32bo6bo$22b3ob4ob3o$3bo17bo2bo6bo2bo29bo4bo$2bobo16b2o10b2o20bo10b2o$
2bobo10bo3b2o4bo4bo10b2o6b2o3bobo$2o2b2o8bobobobo6b2o13bo6bo4bobo7b2o$
bobo6b2o2bobobo22bo8b3obob2o8bo$o2b4o3bobobobob2o7bo13b2o9bobo4bo2bo2b
o$obo4bo3b2obo2bo3bo4bobo15bo9b3o5bobo$bob3obo6bo3bo6bobo13b4o3bo4bo6b
o2bo$3bob2o6bo4bo3bobobo13bo2bobo2b3o5bo3bo$3bob2o6bo4bo3bo2bo14b2o6b
3o3bobo$bob3obo6bo3bo27bo2b2o3b2o3bo$obo4bo3b2obo2bo3bo24bo2bo2bo3b2o$
o2b4o3bobobobob2o25bo3bobo2bobo$bobo6b2o2bobobo27b2obob2obobo$2o2b2o8b
obobobo27bo3bob2o$2bobo10bo3b2o24bobo4bo$2bobo40b2o4b2o$3bo!
Edit 3: Huh!
Code: Select all
x = 7, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
3bo2bo$bo2b2o$obo$obo$bo3bo$2b4o2$4b2o$4b2o!
Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries
Posted: December 15th, 2020, 8:08 pm
by MathAndCode
It turns out that the alternative early R-sequence only requires six cells.
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x = 4, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
o$2o2$bobo$2bo!
This is probably already known.
Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries
Posted: December 15th, 2020, 11:43 pm
by praosylen
A shockingly long-lasting "sparker cage match":
Code: Select all
x = 81, y = 51, rule = B3/S23
40bo3b2o$39bobobo2bo$39bobob2obo$15b2ob2o17b2o2bo4b2o13b2ob2o$14bobob
obob2o14bob2o2b2o11b2obobobobo$14bobobobobo2bo11bo2bo4bo9bo2bobobobob
o$12b2o2b5o3b2o11bobo2b3o10b2o3b5o2b2o$13bobo5bo16bob2o3b3o11bo5bobo$
13bob2o3b2o17bo4bo2bo11b2o3b2obo$12b2o4bo21b2o2bobo15bo4b2o$11bo2b3ob
ob4o10b2o6bobob2o9b4obob3o2bo$11b2o3b2ob2o2bo11bo2b3obobo12bo2b2ob2o3b
2o$26b2o7bobo2bo3bo8b2o$26bo9bobo3b2o10bo$28bo9bobo11bo$18b2o7b2o8bob
7o6b2o7b2o$14b2o2b2o4b2o9b3o7bo9b2o4b2o2b2o$14bo2bo6bob5o3bo3bo2bobo6b
5obo6bo2bo$15b4o2b2obobo4bo3bobo5b5obo4bobob2o2b4o$12b3o3bo3bo2bob2o2b
o2b2ob6o4bobo2b2obo2bo3bo3b3o$12bo2b2o5bo5b4obo10b2o3b4o5bo5b2o2bo$14b
o3b4ob2o3bo4bob4o6bobo4bo3b2ob4o3bo$15b2o6bobo2b5obo2bo7bob6o2bobo6b2o
$17b5obobo8bo4b2o5bo8bobob5o$17bo4b2obob2ob4o7b2o4b4ob2obob2o4bo$20bo
4b2o2b2o19b2o2b2o4bo$19bob4o3bo2bo17bo2bo3b4obo$19bobo3b6obo5bo3bo5bo
b6o3bobo$20bo3bo5bobo6bobo6bobo5bo3bo$24b2o2bo3bob2o4bo4b2obo3bo2b2o$
11b2o16b3obo3bo5bo3bob3o16b2o$11bo5bo10bo2bobobo2bo3bo2bobobo2bo10bo5b
o$4b2o2b2obobo2bobo9b3o2bo5b3o5bo2b3o9bobo2bobob2o2b2o$4bo3bobob5obo9b
ob3obobob2ob2obobob3obo9bob5obobo3bo$b2obo5bo7b3o2b2o2bo3bo2bob2o2bo2b
2obo2bo3bo2b2o2b3o7bo5bob2o$obob2o3b2o3b4o2bobo3bo3bobo15bobo3bo3bobo
2b4o3b2o3b2obobo$obo3bo7bo2bob2o5bo3bob2o13b2obo3bo5b2obo2bo7bo3bobo$
bobobo2bo7bo7b2o4bo19bo4b2o7bo7bo2bobobo$2bo2b4o3b2o3b2obo2bobob2obob
2o13b2obob2obobo2bob2o3b2o3b4o2bo$3b2o7bo5bob4obobo2bo2bo13bo2bo2bobo
b4obo5bo7b2o$5b6obobo3bo7bo2bobo17bobo2bo7bo3bobob6o$5bo2bo2bob2o4b3o
8bo9bo9bo8b3o4b2obo2bo2bo$11bo9bo18bo18bo9bo$10b2o27bobo27b2o$40bo$40b
o$40bo$40bo$39bobo$40bo$40bo!
#C [[ THEME Inverse ZOOM 6 GPS 3 GRID ]]
Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries
Posted: December 16th, 2020, 12:44 am
by MathAndCode
Here's a way to create a half-bakery without a bakery predecessor.
Code: Select all
x = 6, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
2o2$o$ob2o$2bobo$4bo$4b2o!
Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries
Posted: December 16th, 2020, 8:19 am
by JP21
Code: Select all
x = 19, y = 27, rule = B3/S23
9b3o2$7bo5bo$6bobo3b2o$12bo$6bo2b2obo$6b2obo$7b2obo$14bo$11bo5b2o$15bo
2bo$12b2o4bo$15bo$12bo2bob2o$12b4obo$2o9bo2b2o$b2o8b2o$bo7bobo$9bo$11b
o$9bo$3bobobob2o$3bo2b2o2bo$5bo3b2o$6b3o$2b6o$4b2o!
Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries
Posted: December 16th, 2020, 8:30 am
by wwei23
I noticed a symmetric part in the P28 gun:
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x = 14, y = 29, rule = B3/S23
6b2o$6b2o2$6b4o$5bo4bo$4bob4o$4bobo$b2obobob4o$bobo4bo2bo$3bobobo$3bo
b2o$2b2obo4b2o$3bo4bo2bo$o2bo4b3o$3o8b3o$3b3o4bo2bo$2bo2bo4bo$2b2o4bo
b2o$7b2obo$6bobobo$2bo2bo4bobo$2b4obobob2o$7bobo$4b4obo$3bo4bo$4b4o2$
6b2o$6b2o!
Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries
Posted: December 16th, 2020, 9:22 am
by JP21
wwei23 wrote: December 16th, 2020, 8:30 am
I noticed a symmetric part in the P28 gun:
Code: Select all
x = 14, y = 29, rule = B3/S23
6b2o$6b2o2$6b4o$5bo4bo$4bob4o$4bobo$b2obobob4o$bobo4bo2bo$3bobobo$3bo
b2o$2b2obo4b2o$3bo4bo2bo$o2bo4b3o$3o8b3o$3b3o4bo2bo$2bo2bo4bo$2b2o4bo
b2o$7b2obo$6bobobo$2bo2bo4bobo$2b4obobob2o$7bobo$4b4obo$3bo4bo$4b4o2$
6b2o$6b2o!
I noticed that, and probably everyone else.
Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries
Posted: December 16th, 2020, 10:24 am
by wwei23
Probably already known, but I was not expecting a w1 rotor with a period higher than 2.
Code: Select all
x = 12, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
7bo$7b3o$10bo$bo3b3o2bo$obobobobob2o$b2obobobo2bo$3bobo2b2o$3bo4bo$4b
3obo$7bo$6bo$6b2o!
Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries
Posted: December 16th, 2020, 12:33 pm
by MathAndCode
wwei23 wrote: December 14th, 2020, 10:24 am
4c/8 partial:
Here's another:
Code: Select all
x = 6, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
bo$3o$ob2o2$4b2o2$ob2o$3o$bo!
Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries
Posted: December 16th, 2020, 12:48 pm
by wwei23
Gabriel's P138 on eater 1 and P6 pipsquirter
Code: Select all
x = 29, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
23b2o$23b2o2$15bo5b4o$13b3o4bo4bo$12bo6bob5o$12b2o5bo6b2o$18b2obobobo
2bo$18bo2bobobob2o$19b2obo2bo$18bo3bob2o$18b2obobo$19bobobo$17bobob2o
$17b2o2$7b3o$6bo2bo$7bo3bo$2bo5b3o$3bo5bo$2ob2o$o2bo9bo$obo9bobo$bo9b
o2bo$10b2ob2o$5bo5bo$4b3o5bo$3bo3bo$5bo2bo$5b3o!
Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries
Posted: December 16th, 2020, 1:43 pm
by Hdjensofjfnen
wwei23 wrote: December 16th, 2020, 10:24 am
Probably already known, but I was not expecting a w1 rotor with a period higher than 2.
Code: Select all
x = 12, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
7bo$7b3o$10bo$bo3b3o2bo$obobobobob2o$b2obobobo2bo$3bobo2b2o$3bo4bo$4b
3obo$7bo$6bo$6b2o!
Nice! Here's a reduction, if anyone wants to find whether it's been seen before:
Code: Select all
x = 7, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
b2obo$bob2o2$2b3o$bobobo$bo3bo$2b2ob2o$5bo$4obo$o3bo$3bo$3b2o!
Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries
Posted: December 16th, 2020, 2:30 pm
by hkoenig
Here's a reduction, if anyone wants to find whether it's been seen before
It's known. No other details.
Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries
Posted: December 16th, 2020, 2:47 pm
by praosylen
An extra block attached to Beluchenko's p40:
Code: Select all
x = 17, y = 14, rule = B3/S23
2o8b2o$2o7bo$12bo$8b2obo$2o6b2o$2o4$7b2o$5bob2o$4bo$7bo7b2o$5b2o8b2o!
I can't remember if I've seen this before.