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[C28]

mwss

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x = 28, y = 32, rule = B3/S23
5bo9bo$5b3o5b3o$8bo3bo$7b2o3b2o11$23bo$22bobo$22bobo$21b2ob3o$27bo$8b
2o11b2ob3o$9bo11b2obo$5bo3bo$6b3o6$2b2o$bobo$bo$2o!

[Mr. T]

c/2 p40 forward rake

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x = 249, y = 116, rule = B3/S23
244b2o$243b2ob3o$244b5o$245b3o4$245b2o$245bobo$245bo8$235b2o$235bobo$
235bo8$225b2o$225bobo$225bo8$215b2o$215bobo$215bo8$205b2o$205bobo$205b
o8$195b2o$195bobo$195bo8$185b2o$185bobo$185bo8$175b2o$175bobo$175bo7$
87b2o$86b2ob4o72b2o$87b6o72bobo$11b3o74b4o73bo$4o6b5o13b4o$o3bo4b2ob3o
12b6o$o9b2o14b2ob4o$bo2bo22b2o77bo3b2o$104bob2ob3o$5b2o5bo74bo14b3o2b
3o$3b5o39bo39bo14b2o4b2o22bo$2bo4bo2b3obo14bo16b3o19bo18bo14b3obobo18b
o3bo23b2o$2bo2b3o3bo3b2o12b2o15bo2bo17b2o18bo14b2o22bo4bo3b2o9b2o7bobo
$2b2o2bo7bobo11bobo16b2ob2o14bobo18bo14b3ob2o18bo2bo2bo3bo9b2o7bo8b3o$
4b2o7b2obo33b2o14b2o2bo15bo40b4o3bobo27b2o$14b2o18b2o10bo3bo3b2o12bo2b
2o14bobo39b2o3b2o30bo$14bo19b2o10b2o2bo3b2o13bo2bo13bo3bo13bo$47b3o18b
o2bo14bo3bo13bo$4o5b2o37bo20bobo15b3o17b2o$o3bo3b2ob2o74b3o16bo2bo$o8b
4o59b2o32bo2bo$bo2bo5b2o60b2o33b2o$155b3o$154b5o$153b2ob3o$70b6o78b2o$
70bo5bo$70bo$71bo4bo$73b2o!

[TYCF]

Interesting reaction.

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x = 11, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
7bo$2b7o4$2b2o3b2o$3bo3bo$3o5b3o$o9bo!

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x = 11, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
7bo$2b7o4$2b2o3bo$3bo2bobo$3o4bo$o7b3o$10bo!

[b-engine]

P12 which visually resembles blocker:

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x = 19, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
3bo$2bobo$2bobo$b2ob2o$9b2o$b2ob2o3b2o$2bob2o$o8bo$2o6bobo$8bo2bo$9b2o
6b2o$18bo$13b2obo$8b2o3b2ob2o$8b2o$13b2ob2o$14bobo$14bobo$15bo!

[qqd]

P12 which visually resembles blocker:

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x = 19, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
3bo$2bobo$2bobo$b2ob2o$9b2o$b2ob2o3b2o$2bob2o$o8bo$2o6bobo$8bo2bo$9b2o
6b2o$18bo$13b2obo$8b2o3b2ob2o$8b2o$13b2ob2o$14bobo$14bobo$15bo!

I am afraid that it is just a known variant of Baker's dozen.

[get_Snacked]

is this H-2G by domokoa on Discord known?

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x = 20, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
18b2o$2b2o14bo$2b2o12bobo$16b2o$2b4o$2bo3bo$5bo$5bobo$6b2o$2b2o13bo$2b
o12bobo$obo12b3o$2o13bo!

[dvgrn]

is this H-2G by domokoa on Discord known?

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x = 20, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
18b2o$2b2o14bo$2b2o12bobo$16b2o$2b4o$2bo3bo$5bo$5bobo$6b2o$2b2o13bo$2b
o12bobo$obo12b3o$2o13bo!

The way to find this kind of thing out is to run the identifier script from the H-to-G thread, and then search for the systematic name that the script gives. In this case, SE5T12 has been around for a long time -- it was found by simeks in mid-2015.

[C28]

might be good for something

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x = 12, y = 18, rule = B3/S23
b3o$b3o$obo$2o6bo$7bobo$8bo5$6b2o$6bobo$8bo$8bob2o$2b2o3b2ob2o$bo$4bo$2b2o!

[Jormungant]

g9-to-g+g ...

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x = 65, y = 60, rule = LifeHistory
5$4.A8.A$5.A7.BA$3.3A6.3A6$45.2A$45.A3.2A$41.2A4.A2.A$36.2A2.B2AB2.4A
$30.A.2A.A.A2.3B2.B$30.2A.A.A5.B.3B2A8.3B$34.2AB2.7BA.A6.4B$34.2B2.9B
2A5.4B$35.11B7.4B$34.10B8.4B$33.11B7.4B$32.12B6.4B$30.16B3.4B$31.8B2A
6B.4B$32.6BA2BA9B$19.2A12.6B2A9B$20.A6.2B5.16B$19.A6.4B5.2B.6B2.4B$
19.2A4.6B3.2B2.5B4.B.B2A$21.AB.8B.B2AB2.3BA2B4.BA.A$19.3A12B2A5.ABA4B
4.A$18.A2.B.10B.B7.A.A.2A4.2A$18.2A3.9B8.A.A.ABABA$22.7BA4B5.A.A.A4.A
$21.7BABA4B3.A2.A.A.3A$18.2B.7BABA4B2.A3.A2.2A$17.2A10BA5BA2.4A$17.2A
B.13BAB2A$18.B.13B.BA2.2A$20.4B3.5B2.2B2A2.A$15.2A2.5B3.5B3.B.B.2A$
15.A2.A.2AB5.5B2.B2A.A$17.2A.A.A6.5B.BAB.A$18.A2.2A5.5B4.2A$16.A.A8.
8B$16.2A8.4B3.2A$25.4B4.A$24.4B6.3A$23.4B9.A$22.4B$21.4B$20.4B$20.3B$
20.2B!

with a sneaky property...

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x = 73, y = 65, rule = LifeHistory
2$15.A$15.BA$14.3A2$8.A.A$9.2A$9.A2$47.2A$47.A3.2A$43.2A4.A2.A$38.2A2.
B2AB2.4A$32.A.2A.A.A2.3B2.B$32.2A.A.A5.B.3B2A8.3B$36.2AB2.7BA.A6.4B$36.
2B2.9B2A5.4B$37.11B7.4B$36.10B8.4B$35.11B7.4B$34.12B6.4B$32.16B3.4B$33.
8B2A6B.4B$34.6BA2BA9B$21.2A12.6B2A9B$22.A6.2B5.16B$21.A6.4B5.2B.6B2.4B
$21.2A4.6B3.2B2.5B4.B.B2A$23.AB.8B.B2AB2.3BA2B4.BA.A$21.3A12B2A5.ABA4B
4.A$20.A2.B.10B.B7.A.A.2A4.2A$20.2A3.9B8.A.A.ABABA$24.7BA4B5.A.A.A4.A
$23.7BABA4B3.A2.A.A.3A$20.2B.7BABA4B2.A3.A2.2A$19.2A10BA5BA2.4A$19.2A
B.13BAB2A$20.B.13B.BA2.2A$22.4B3.5B2.2B2A2.A$17.2A2.5B3.5B3.B.B.2A$17.
A2.A.2AB5.5B2.B2A.A$19.2A.A.A6.5B.BAB.A$20.A2.2A5.5B4.2A$18.A.A8.8B$18.
2A8.4B3.2A$27.4B4.A$26.4B6.3A$25.4B9.A$24.4B$23.4B$22.4B$22.3B$22.2B!

[Tawal]

g9-to-g+g ...

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see above

with a sneaky property...

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see above too :)

Why posting in Unsure thread ?
I think it's a nice splitter :

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x = 77, y = 68, rule = LifeHistory
23.4B$24.4B$25.4B$26.4B$27.5B7.2A$27.6B5.A.A$27.6B.B3.A$26.10B.2A$26.
10BA$25.12B2A$25.11B2.A$24.9B4.A$14.2A8.9B5.3A$15.A9.8B7.A$15.A.AB5.
9B$16.2AB.14B$18.17B$18.17B$19.17B$18.17B.B$16.21BA$14.19B2.BA.A16.2A
$14.2BE16B3.BA17.A3.2A$13.3BEBE4B.10B17.2A4.A2.A$14.2B3E4B2.10B11.2A
2.B2AB2.4A$13.5BE4B2.11B4.A.2A.A.A2.3B2.B$12.10B4.6B.4B3.2A.A.A5.B.3B
2A8.3B$11.4B10.7B2.4B6.2AB2.7BA.A6.4B$11.3B12.6B3.4B5.2B2.9B2A5.4B$9.
4B13.7B3.4B5.11B7.4B$9.2A16.5B5.4B3.10B8.4B$10.A16.6B5.4B.11B7.4B$7.
3A15.9B5.15B6.4B$7.A17.2A.7B5.16B3.4B$26.A5.4B5.8B2A6B.4B$23.3A7.4B5.
6BA2BA9B$23.A5.2A3.4B5.6B2A9B$30.A4.4B5.16B$29.A6.4B5.2B.6B2.4B$29.2A
4.6B3.2B2.5B4.B.B2A$31.AB.8B.B2AB2.3BA2B4.BA.A$29.3A12B2A5.ABA4B4.A$
28.A2.B.10B.B7.A.A.2A4.2A$28.2A3.10B7.A.A.ABABA$32.7BA4B5.A.A.A4.A$
31.7BABA4B3.A2.A.A.3A$28.2B.7BABA4B2.A3.A2.2A$27.2A10BA5BA2.4A$27.2AB
.13BAB2A$28.B.13B.BA2.2A$30.4B3.5B2.2B2A2.A$25.2A2.5B3.5B3.B.B.2A$25.
A2.A.2AB5.5B2.B2A.A$27.2A.A.A6.5B.BAB.A$28.A2.2A5.5B4.2A$26.A.A8.8B$
26.2A8.4B3.2A$35.4B4.A$34.4B6.3A$33.4B9.A$32.4B$31.4B$30.4B$30.3B$30.
2B!

[confocaloid]

A non-optimal p557 glider gun as a demo:

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x = 97, y = 81, rule = LifeHistory
19.2A11.A$18.B2AB9.A.A$19.3B9.A.A2.2A3.A$18.B.B9.2A.2A2.A2.A.A12.A$
18.5B8.B2.A.A3.A.A10.3A$18.6B6.2ABA2.4A.A10.A$18.8B4.2A.A.A3.A12.2A$
19.13B2.A.AB2.A9.4B$17.13B5.A.A2B.A7.3B20.2A$16.15B5.A2B.2A7.4B18.B2A
2B3.2A$16.15B4.3B10.5B19.4B2.B2AB$15.17B.B.2B11.6B3.A10.B.6B3.2B$15.
29B2.8B3.3A6.10B2.2B$14.13B2A26B5.A5.11B2A2B$13.14B2A25B5.2A4.12B2A3B
.B$12.2AB3.27B.7B6.4B2.18B2A$11.A2.A4.35B7.2BA2.15B.B2A$10.A.2A5.6B3.
B2.2B2.19B7.B2A16B3.B$10.A7.6B14.17B7.ABA15B$9.2A6.9B14.15B.2B2.19B$
16.4B4.2A15.38B$3.2A10.4B5.A16.8B.20B.7B$4.A9.4B7.3A11.8B3.2B2A16B2.
6B$2.A10.4B10.A11.2A3.B5.2B2A17B.7B$2.5A5.4B5.2A17.A10.21B.6B$7.A4.4B
5.A15.3A12.B.3B.4B7.9B$4.3AB2.7B.BA.A15.A20.3B9.8B$3.A.2B3.7B.B2A35.
4B11.8B$3.4A12B37.2A14.7B8.A$.2A2.BA3B2A7B38.A15.6B6.3A$A2.3AB.2B2A7B
35.3A16.7B4.A$2A.A.B3.10B35.A18.7B4.2A$3.A8.8B53.8B.4B$3.2A7.9B52.11B
$13.3B2.4B51.12B$11.5B3.4B50.12B$11.2A7.4B50.11B$12.A8.4B38.2A12.9B$
9.3A10.4B38.A11.10B.2B$9.A13.4B37.A.AB4.B.6BA10B$24.4B37.2AB2.11BA11B
3.B$25.4B38.23BA4B2A$26.4B14.2A20.13B3A6BABA3BABA$27.4B9.2A3.A20.16BA
4BA3BA4BA$28.4B8.A2.A4.2A16.13B4A3BA3B2A4B$29.4B8.4A2.B2AB2.2A11.A11B
A3B3AB2A3BA4B$30.4B11.B2.3B2.A.A.2A.A4.A3B.B3.4BABA3BA3B3A4B$31.4B8.
2A.2B.B5.A.A.2A3.B3A5.4B2.B2A3B4.4B$32.4B6.A.A7B2.B2A6.4B5.4B3.2A3B5.
5B$33.4B5.2A.8B2.2B5.4B5.4B3.2B.B7.4B$34.4B7.11B5.4B5.4B3.BA2B9.BA$
35.4B8.10B3.4B5.4B4.A.A8.A.A.A$36.4B7.11B.4B5.4B6.A8.A.2A.3A$37.4B6.
15B5.4B16.A7.A$38.4B3.16B5.4B16.2A6.2A$39.4B.6B2A8B5.4B$40.9BA2BA6B5.
4B$41.9B2A6B5.4B3.2A$41.16B5.4B4.A$41.4B2.6B.2B5.4B6.A$39.2AB.B4.5B2.
2B3.6B4.2A$38.A.AB4.2BA3B2.B2AB.8B.BA$38.A4.4BABA5.2A12B3A$37.2A4.2A.
A.A7.B.10B.B2.A$42.ABABA.A.A8.9B3.2A$42.A4.A.A.A5.4BA7B$43.3A.A.A2.A
3.4BABA7B$45.2A2.A3.A2.4BABA7B.2B$49.4A2.A5BA10B2A$53.2ABA13B.B2A$51.
2A2.AB.13B.B$50.A2.2A2B2.5B3.4B$50.2A.B.B3.5B3.3B.B2.2A$51.A.2AB2.5B
6.2A.A2.A$51.A.BAB.5B6.A.A.2A$52.2A4.5B5.2A2.A$56.8B8.A.A$56.2A3.4B8.
2A$57.A4.4B$54.3A6.4B$54.A9.4B!
#C [[ MAXGRIDSIZE 9 ]]

guntrue_557 is smaller by the bounding box area, and neither is Spartan or neo-Spartan.

[tommyaweosme]

While I was playing around, I noticed that the Gosper Glider Gun produces 1 glider without the blocks. Useful?

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x = 15, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
14bo$12bobo$2b2o6b2o$bo3bo4b2o$o5bo3b2o$o3bob2o4bobo$o5bo7bo$bo3bo$2b
2o!

[confocaloid]

While I was playing around, I noticed that the Gosper Glider Gun produces 1 glider without the blocks. Useful?

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x = 15, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
14bo$12bobo$2b2o6b2o$bo3bo4b2o$o5bo3b2o$o3bob2o4bobo$o5bo7bo$bo3bo$2b
2o!

Well, by itself this kind of information is not very useful. Without the blocks or another way to delete forming beehives, there is no gun.

It might be useful to know, for example if one would like to stop a working glider gun at a certain time by hitting and deleting the blocks with gliders:

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x = 67, y = 22, rule = B3/S23
bo$2bo62bo$3o61bo$64b3o10$42bo$40bobo$30b2o6b2o12b2o$29bo3bo4b2o12b2o$
18b2o8bo5bo3b2o$18b2o8bo3bob2o4bobo$28bo5bo7bo$29bo3bo$30b2o!

Then you'll need to know when to send the two gliders, to make sure the number of output gliders is correct.

[tommyaweosme]

While I was playing around, I noticed that the Gosper Glider Gun produces 1 glider without the blocks. Useful?

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x = 15, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
14bo$12bobo$2b2o6b2o$bo3bo4b2o$o5bo3b2o$o3bob2o4bobo$o5bo7bo$bo3bo$2b
2o!

Well, by itself this kind of information is not very useful. Without the blocks or another way to delete forming beehives, there is no gun.

It might be useful to know, for example if one would like to stop a working glider gun at a certain time by hitting and deleting the blocks with gliders:

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x = 67, y = 22, rule = B3/S23
bo$2bo62bo$3o61bo$64b3o10$42bo$40bobo$30b2o6b2o12b2o$29bo3bo4b2o12b2o$
18b2o8bo5bo3b2o$18b2o8bo3bob2o4bobo$28bo5bo7bo$29bo3bo$30b2o!

Then you'll need to know when to send the two gliders, to make sure the number of output gliders is correct.

Wait could we use multiple of these together to make a certain number of gliders from a confusing mess of these?

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x = 80, y = 25, rule = B3/S23
24bo$22bobo$12b2o6b2o12b2o$11bo3bo4b2o12b2o$2o8bo5bo3b2o56bo$2o8bo3bo
b2o4bobo52bo$10bo5bo7bo52b3o$11bo3bo$12b2o8$55bo$53bobo$43b2o6b2o12b2o
$42bo3bo4b2o12b2o$31b2o8bo5bo3b2o$31b2o8bo3bob2o4bobo$41bo5bo7bo$42bo
3bo$43b2o!

Maybe this.

[dvgrn]

Wait could we use multiple of these together to make a certain number of gliders from a confusing mess of these?

Sure -- we could do that. It's not clear why we would need multiple guns or the confusing mess, though.

See this blog post by biggiemac, for example. Scroll down to the fifth animation, in the "Or does it?" section.

[Mr. T]

?-Heptomino -> Herschel -> pi?-Heptomino -> pi-Heptomino -> 2 Gliders

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x = 15, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
2o$b2o10b2o$2o11b2o$o7$10b2o$10b2o!

[Haycat2009]

?-Heptomino -> Herschel -> pi?-Heptomino -> pi-Heptomino -> 2 Gliders

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x = 15, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
2o$b2o10b2o$2o11b2o$o7$10b2o$10b2o!

It starts with a b-heptomino.

[otismo]

I put two Space Ships together and made a Growing SpaceShip :

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x = 184, y = 218, rule = B3/S23
58b2o$57b2o$57b2ob2o$54bob2o2bob2o$53b3o4bo$52bo3bob4obo$53bo6b2o$62bo
$60bo2bo$54b3o3bo2bo$53bobob2o$53bobo2b4o$52b2o2bob2obo$52bo2b2obobob
2o$53bo3b2o$63bo$56bo$55bo3bo$55bo2b2o$56bob2o$59bo$57b2ob2o2$56bo4bo$
56b3o$56b2o$57bo2b2o$58bob2o$55b2obob2o$55b2o$55bo3bo2b2o$57bobo2b2o
11b2o$61b2o13b2o$60bobo10b2ob2o$60bo2bo7b2obo2b2obo$57bo2bobobo9bo4b3o
$56b3obo10bob4obo3bo$55bo6b2o9b2o6bo$55bo17b2o$53bo8bo$53bo8bo9bo2bo$
55bob2o2bobo6b2o2bo$7bob2o16b2o28b2o4bo8bo$6b2ob2ob2obo6bob2ob2o10b2o
7bo8bobo$5bo2bobob2ob2o4b2ob2obobo2b2o3b2obo6b4o9bo9bobo$6bo6bo3bo2bo
3bobo2bo2b2ob2obo2bo4bo3b2ob2o3bo12b2o$15bob4obob4obobob4ob2o2bo7bo2b
2o3bobo9b3o$18bo3bo6bobo6bobo3b2o6bo2bo3b3o6bo4b2o$16b2o11bobo4b2o5bob
o19b4o$28b4o2b3o2b2o2bob2o6bo7b2obobo7bo$22b2ob3o2bo9b2obo2bo5b3o6bo2b
o3bobo$22b2o3bo3b2o3bo6bo4b2o2b3o5bobobo$21bo2bo9b2ob2ob2obo4b2ob3obo
5bobo3bo2bo$37b2ob2o3bo2bo3bo2bo11bob2o$30b3o3b3o3bo3bobob3ob2o6bo4b2o
$29bo3b2o4b3ob2obo2bob2o9bo3b3obo$24b3o2b3o6bobo6bo6bo10b2o19bo$23bobo
b3o4bo3b4o3b3o2bo3bob2o2b3o3bo13b2o4b2obo$24bo4bo4bobo4bo3b2o3bo7bo4bo
8b2o6b2ob2o2b4o$27b2o9bo7bo3b2ob2o2b2o4bo2bo5b2ob2o2bo3b2o2bo3bo$49b2o
b2o5b2ob5o4bo3b2o2bo2bo8bo12bob4obo$51b4o9bo6bobo3bobobo9bob3o3bo2b3ob
4ob2o$49bo8bo2bo13bo5bob9o4bobobo6b2o4bo$50bo2b2ob4o3bo12bo4b4obob4o6b
obo5b2obo$53b2ob2ob2obo4b2ob3ob2ob3o11bo4bo3bobobo4b2obo$60bo4b2obo3b
2o4b2o11bo2b2o10b2o4bo$14b2o32b2o5b3o6b2o3bo40b3o$12b3obob3o7b4ob2o11b
ob2o4b2o4bob2ob2o4bobo$5bo5b2o3bo3b2ob2o3b2ob2ob2o4b2o3b2o3bo3b2ob3o2b
o4b2o2bo2bo36bo$b3ob2o3bo3bo3bob4ob2o6bobob2ob2o3b2o8bo5bobobob4o2bo$o
8b2ob2o2b2obobo4bobo2bobo4bo3b2o2b2o8b2obob6o43b2o$b2o3b3obob5o5bobob
2o6bo2b2obo2bo13bobo5bob2o3bo$5b4o3b2o2b2o2b2o2bo2b2o2bo4b5obo2bo12bo
9bo2b6ob2o29bo$4bo13b2o3b2o2b2o2bo2bo2b2o2b2o2bo12b2o5bo8bobob2ob2obo
25b2o$5bobo5bo4b2o3bobo3bobob2o6bobo2bob3o3bo2bobobob3o13bob2ob2o5b3ob
2o12bobo$7bo4bo18bo13b2ob4obobobo9b2o13bo3bo2b2o4b2o$24b2o3bobo12b2o7b
obobo2b3o4b3o14bob4o2bobo2bo$25b2ob3o3b2ob3o5bo4b2obo8b2o3bobo17bo2bo$
34b2o4b2obo5b3ob2o3b2ob2ob2o19b2o2bo$27bo5bo2bobo4bo2bo3bo2bobo3b3o3bo
b2o$27bo12b2ob4ob2o3bob2o6bob2obo20b2o$49bo3bo4bo3bobobobo$48bob4o4bo
3b4o2b2o18b3o$48b3ob2o5b3o4bo23bo$49b2o3b5ob2o27bo$48bo9bo$58b4o2b2o$
48b3o2bobo2bo3bob2o$48b6o2bo4b4o$46b2o7bo2bo6bo$52b2o4b2o$46bo8bo4bo3b
2o$48b2ob3obo5bob2o$50bobo2bo2bob2obo$53b2obobo2bo2bo$54bo3bobobo2$55b
o$56bo$54b3o4$56bobo$57b2o$57bo3$60bo$58bobo$59b2o3$61bo$62b2o$61b2o3$
64bo$65bo$63b3o4$65bobo$66b2o$66bo3$69bo$67bobo$68b2o3$70bo$71b2o$70b
2o3$73bo$74bo$72b3o4$74bobo$75b2o$75bo3$78bo$76bobo$77b2o3$79bo$80b2o$
79b2o2$145bobo$82bo62bob3obo$83bo59b2o3b2o2bo$81b3o60b2ob2o3b2o$140bob
2o3b2o4bo2bo4bobo$85b2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob
2ob2obo10b2ob2obob2obo2bo$85b2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o
b2ob2ob2ob2obo7bob2o3b2o8b2o$140bob2o3b2o2b3o7bo4bo$144b2ob3ob2o8bob5o
$143bobob2o7bob2o9b2o$144bo9bobo4bob5o3bo$142bob2ob2o6bo5bo6bo3bo$131b
obo8bo2bob3ob2o11bobo5bo$131bo2bo11bo4b3o6b3o3bo3b3o$134b2o7bob6o3b2o
8b2o2bo2bo$132bo3bo3b2obo6b2ob2obob6o5b3o$133bob3ob3o5b2o4bo2bo6bo8bo$
135bo3b2o6b2o3b2o5b2ob3o6b3o$135b2ob2o8b2o2bo7b2o3bo7bo$134b3o7bo3b2ob
o5bo4bo3bo4b3o$134bo5bobobob2o9bob5o2bo4bobo$138bob2o5bo17b2o6b2o$144b
obo11b8o6b3ob2o$139b3o4bo18bo6bo4bo$138bo3b4o12bo2bo4bo10bo$140bo3bo
14bobobobo7bo2bo$138bo3b2o21bo8b2o$138bo3bo12bob5obo9b2o$137b5o13bo6bo
b2o8bobo$137bobo18b2obobobo8bob4o$155bo2b2obo2b2o12b2o$155bobo7bo15bo$
164b3o11b4o$163bo2bo15bo$164bo2bo10bo2b3o$166b2o12b3o$158bobo20bo$158b
o2bo3bobo8bob3o$161b2o4b2o7b2o2bo$166b2o9b3o$159b8o10bo$158bo4bobo13bo
$160b3o14bobo$158bo3bo17bo$158b3o16bobo$157b4o18bo$157bo19bo$177b3o$
176b2o2bo$176bob3o$181bo$180b3o$178bo2b3o$182bo$178b4o$181bo$178b2o$
176b4o$176bo!

I know it is trivial, but it iz way kewl; do I get to "claim" it as My Discovery ?

Behold, OtismO's GrowShip.

Thank You.

Cheers !

EDIT by dvgrn: Heh, this had me puzzled for a while -- I was sure I'd seen prior art for this combination, but couldn't remember where. Turns out it's because this pattern is duplicated from a previous post -- the prior art was also by otismo!

[Tawal]

Is this 0° +4hd reflector known ?
Add a Jujub Reflector and you get a 180° +4hd reflector

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x = 151, y = 77, rule = LifeHistory
5$32.2A.A66.2A.A$28.2A.A2.2A62.2A.A2.2A$8.E19.A3.A45.E19.A3.A$9.E20.
2A.2A.A42.E20.2A.2A.A$7.3EB11.2A2.4A.A.A.2A40.3EB11.2A2.4A.A.A.2A$8.
4B10.A2.A.A2.3B45.4B10.A2.A.A2.3B$9.4B10.A.A.3B.B47.4B10.A.A.3B.B$10.
4B10.A.A6B3.2A42.4B10.A.A6B3.2A$11.4B10.AB.2B2AB3.A44.4B10.AB.2B2AB3.
A$12.4B12.2B2A6.A43.4B.3D8.2B2A6.A$13.4B10.5B2.5A44.4BD3B6.5B2.5A$14.
4B9.7BA49.4BD3B5.7BA$15.4B7.7B4.2A46.8B3.7B4.2A$16.4B6.7B4.A48.8B2.7B
4.A$17.4B5.6B2.BA.A49.8B.6B2.BA.A$18.4B4.7B.B2A51.15B.B2A$19.4B3.9B6.
A47.16B6.A$20.4B.10B4.3A48.15B4.3A$20.15B3.A51.15B3.A$17.2B.17B.2A47.
2B.17B.2A$16.2A22B46.2A22B$16.2AB.18B48.2AB.18B$17.B.20B48.B.20B$20.
18B.B50.18B.B$21.20B50.20B$21.21B49.21B$22.20B50.20B$23.5B2C12B51.5B
2C12B$23.5B2C12B51.5B2C12B$24.19B51.19B$25.19B51.19B$26.18B52.18B$26.
19B51.19B2.A$27.17B53.17B3.3A9.2A$28.17B53.17B5.A8.A$29.17B53.17B3.2A
5.A3.3A$29.18B52.18B2.4B3.4A3.A$31.12B.4B53.12B.4B3.5B3.B.A.A$32.10B
3.4B53.10B3.13B2AB2A$33.6B7.4B53.6B7.12B2A$33.5B9.4B52.5B9.11B3.2A$
31.2AB.2B11.4B49.2AB.2B11.10B4.A$30.A.AB15.3BD47.A.AB15.9B3.A$30.A19.
3BD46.A19.9B2.2A$29.2A20.3D45.2A12.2A5.9B$113.A.A4.9B$115.A4.2B2A3B.B
2A$115.3A.2BA2BA2B.BA.A$113.2A2.BA3BABAB5.A$112.A2.4A4BA4B3.2A$112.2A
.A.4B5.2A$115.A.2A7.A$115.A.A9.3A$114.2A.A.A9.A$118.2A!

I posted here because I'm not sure it isn't already known.
Where can I find a collection of stable reflectors in order to avoid useless posts ?

[Jormungant]

Well I knew it could be constructed, but did not feel like pushing it here, for some strange reason there is many 180deg reflectors that showed up lately, it might be time to make a pattern that contains them all, and look for the "smallest" possible for each possible offset.

[TYCF]

Is this 0° +4hd reflector known ?
Add a Jujub Reflector and you get a 180° +4hd reflector

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x = 151, y = 77, rule = LifeHistory
5$32.2A.A66.2A.A$28.2A.A2.2A62.2A.A2.2A$8.E19.A3.A45.E19.A3.A$9.E20.
2A.2A.A42.E20.2A.2A.A$7.3EB11.2A2.4A.A.A.2A40.3EB11.2A2.4A.A.A.2A$8.
4B10.A2.A.A2.3B45.4B10.A2.A.A2.3B$9.4B10.A.A.3B.B47.4B10.A.A.3B.B$10.
4B10.A.A6B3.2A42.4B10.A.A6B3.2A$11.4B10.AB.2B2AB3.A44.4B10.AB.2B2AB3.
A$12.4B12.2B2A6.A43.4B.3D8.2B2A6.A$13.4B10.5B2.5A44.4BD3B6.5B2.5A$14.
4B9.7BA49.4BD3B5.7BA$15.4B7.7B4.2A46.8B3.7B4.2A$16.4B6.7B4.A48.8B2.7B
4.A$17.4B5.6B2.BA.A49.8B.6B2.BA.A$18.4B4.7B.B2A51.15B.B2A$19.4B3.9B6.
A47.16B6.A$20.4B.10B4.3A48.15B4.3A$20.15B3.A51.15B3.A$17.2B.17B.2A47.
2B.17B.2A$16.2A22B46.2A22B$16.2AB.18B48.2AB.18B$17.B.20B48.B.20B$20.
18B.B50.18B.B$21.20B50.20B$21.21B49.21B$22.20B50.20B$23.5B2C12B51.5B
2C12B$23.5B2C12B51.5B2C12B$24.19B51.19B$25.19B51.19B$26.18B52.18B$26.
19B51.19B2.A$27.17B53.17B3.3A9.2A$28.17B53.17B5.A8.A$29.17B53.17B3.2A
5.A3.3A$29.18B52.18B2.4B3.4A3.A$31.12B.4B53.12B.4B3.5B3.B.A.A$32.10B
3.4B53.10B3.13B2AB2A$33.6B7.4B53.6B7.12B2A$33.5B9.4B52.5B9.11B3.2A$
31.2AB.2B11.4B49.2AB.2B11.10B4.A$30.A.AB15.3BD47.A.AB15.9B3.A$30.A19.
3BD46.A19.9B2.2A$29.2A20.3D45.2A12.2A5.9B$113.A.A4.9B$115.A4.2B2A3B.B
2A$115.3A.2BA2BA2B.BA.A$113.2A2.BA3BABAB5.A$112.A2.4A4BA4B3.2A$112.2A
.A.4B5.2A$115.A.2A7.A$115.A.A9.3A$114.2A.A.A9.A$118.2A!

I posted here because I'm not sure it isn't already known.
Where can I find a collection of stable reflectors in order to avoid useless posts ?

Blocks factory.

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x = 38, y = 29, rule = LifeHistory
25.2A.A$21.2A.A2.2A$.E19.A3.A$2.E20.2A.2A.A$3E12.2A2.4A.A.A.2A$15.A2.
A.A$16.A.A$17.A.A9.2A$18.A4.2A4.A$23.2A6.A$27.5A$27.A$30.2A$30.A$28.A
.A$28.2A$34.A$32.3A$31.A$31.2A$9.2A25.2A$9.2A25.A$34.A.A$34.2A4$21.2C
$21.2C!

[confocaloid]

Is this 0° +4hd reflector known ?
Add a Jujub Reflector and you get a 180° +4hd reflector
[...]

How did you find these patterns?

A minor variant of the 4-lane glider shifter was known and posted. (These are based on a recent G-to-R by yoleo.)

[...]
4hd lane shifter:

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x = 37, y = 46, rule = LifeHistory
16.2A.A$12.2A.A2.2A$12.A3.A$14.2A.2A.A$6.2A2.4A.A.A.2A$6.A2.A.A2.3B$
7.A.A.3B.B$8.A.A6B3.2A$9.AB.2B2EB3.A$12.2B2E6.A$11.5B2.5A$11.7BA$10.
7B4.2A$10.7B4.A$10.6B2.BA.A$10.7B.B2A$10.9B6.A$9.10B4.3A$4.2B2.11B3.A
$.2B.17B.2A$2A22B$2AB.18B$.B.9BC10B$4.9BC8B.B$5.6B3C11B$5.20B$6.18B$
7.5B2A10B$7.5B2A11B$8.19B$9.19B$10.18B$10.19B$11.17B$12.17B$13.17B$
13.18B$15.12B.4B$16.10B3.4B$16.7B7.4B$18.4B9.4B$16.5B11.4B$16.2A15.4B
$17.A16.3B$14.3A$14.A!

[Tawal]

...
How did you find these patterns?

A minor variant of the 4-lane glider shifter was known and posted. (These are based on a recent G-to-R by yoleo.)
...

Yes, I started with yoleo's G-to-x and tried manually to find something.
Sorry, but I haven't seen the AlbertArmStain's post.

[TYCF]

Fourteener reaction. (See gen 1586.)

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x = 60, y = 54, rule = B3/S23
4b2obo2b2obob2obo2b2ob4o3bo2b6o2b2o2bo10bobo$obobo3b4o4bo2b2o2b2ob2o2b
2o2bobobo2bo2bo2bobo4b2obo$ob2ob2o2bo2b5ob3o3b3o2b9obo5bo3bo2b2ob2o2b
o$2ob2ob4ob3o2bobo3b2ob2o3b2o6bobo7bo2b2o2bobo$3b2obobob2o2bobob4obob
ob3o3bo2bob4obo4bobobo3bo2bo$7o3bob3o2bo2b2obob2ob2ob2obo5b2o6bob6obo
bo$2b3o2b4o9b2obo3bo2bo2b3o2bob7ob2obo2bo2b3o$bob2o2b3o2b3obob2obo2b2o
4b6o3bo5b2obo2bo2b2obo$4o2b5o2bobob3obo5bob2ob2ob2o4b2o4b5o2bo2bobo$o
7b2ob3o2bo2b4o6b2o2b4o2b2obobobo5b2o2b4o$2bobo2bo2bobo3b2o2b2obobob2o
bobob2ob2ob3o3bo3bobo3b2obo$2bobo7bob2obo6b2obo2b2ob3o2b2o3bobo5bo4b2o
$b2o2b2o3bo8b2o2b3o5b2ob5o2b2o3b3o2b2o3b2obo$o7bo10b4obobob3obobo2bo3b
2o2bo2b6ob2obo$b3o2b3o3bo7b2ob2o4b2obobobobob2obo8bo2bobo$o2b2ob5o2bo
bob3obo2bobob2ob2obobo2bob2ob2obobob5obobo$bo5b2obo2b3o2bob4obobo3b2o
b3obo2b4o3b2o4bobobo$4bo4bo4bo2bo8bo2b2ob2o4b4ob5ob2obo2b3obo$2bo2bo2b
ob4obob4o2b3obo4b2obo2bo2b2o2bo2b2obo2bob3o$6ob2ob3obob2o2b2o2bo2b2o2b
4obo2bob3obo2b3o3b6o$b4o2bobobobobob3obob4o2bob2obob2obo2b2o7bo5bobo$
2obob4o2bob4obo2bob2obob2o2b2o4bob2ob2obo2bo4b3o$2b2o2b4ob2ob2o4bobob
3ob4obobo3bobob6obobobobobo$3bobobobobobobo4bobo2b2ob3ob3ob2o3b5ob2o4b
o$obo2bob2ob2obobobobob4o2b2ob2o4b2obo2b10obo$6ob3obob2o4bo2bobob2o2b
o4bo2bo4bob6obob2o3bo$3b3o2bo2b3o3bo5b2o4bobo2b3ob2obo4bo3bo3bobobo$5o
b2ob3o5bobob2ob3o5bobobo2bobo2bob2obo2bob2o3bo$2bo2bo3b2obobobo2bo2b3o
3b2o3bo2bobo3bob2o3b5obo$3bob4o3b3o3b2ob2obo2b5o4b3obobobo3bob2ob2o$b
2o2b2ob2ob3o3b3o2b3obob4o3b2o4b3obobo3b4ob3o$obobobobo4b2o3bo2bo2b3o3b
obob2o5bo2bobo5bobo$4b3o2bob2obob2ob2o5b5o2b6o5bobobobob2obob3o$6bo2b
ob3o2b4o2bob8o2b2o2bobob3obob5obo2b2o$o4bo5bobo2b4o2b2o4b6o2bobobobob
2ob3o2b2o$o6bo3b2o3b2obobob2o3b3o4b4obo2b5ob4o2bobo$b3obo4b4o2b4o3bob
2o2b2obo2bob2o2bo2bo2b4obo2b2ob2o$2b5ob4o3bo2bo2bo3b2obobo2bobo5bob2o
2bo5b4o2bo$2o2b3o2bob4o2b2obob3o2bob3o2b5o3b2o2b2ob3ob3o2bo$o2bob5ob3o
b3o3bo4b3obo2bob2obo2b2obob3ob2o2bobob2o$bo2bobo3b3obobo2b2o2bob2obo3b
2o4b2o2b3o3b2ob2obo3b2o$7o3bob4obo4bo3b2o5b4ob2o2b2o9bobob2o$o4bo3b3o
2bo2b3o8bob4o2bo2bob2obo2bob4o4bobo$4bo2bob4obob2o2b3obob3ob2o2b2o2b2o
4bo3b6o2b2o$2o3bobob2obo2bobobo2b4obo2b2o2bob3ob2o5b3o2b2ob3obo$ob2ob
3obobo3b4o2bo2bobo2b2obobo2b4ob2obo4b2obo2bo2bo$2bo2b3o2b3ob2o2bobo4b
o2b4o2b3obobobobob6ob3obo$2obo3bo4bo2b2obo7b6o3bo2bob4o2bob4o2b2ob2o$
4b2obo2bo5bobob2ob4obo2bo2bo2bobobob2obobob2o3b3o$3obobo6bo2bo3b4ob2o
b2obo3bo5bo2b3obo2bobo5bo$o3b2obo3bo2b2ob2o3b2obo4b2o4b2o2bobob5obo2b
2obo2bo$b2o2b3ob2ob4ob2obo3b5ob2ob2o3bo2b2ob2o2bob6o3bo$2bo3bo2b4o3b3o
b2obob2o7b5obobobobob4o2bo2b3o$2b4o2bo4bo2b3o2b2o2b6o4bo2bobob2o3b2ob
3o2bo2bo!

[dvgrn]

Fourteener reaction...

This is posted in Unsure Discoveries. Is that because you're not sure if this is a discovery or not?

The key reaction is this one:

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x = 7, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
4b2o$3bo2bo$4b2o3$bo$ob2o$o2bo$b3o$2bo!

There are many hundreds of soups catalogued -- catagolued? -- here. It's generally worth putting the output object that you're looking at into the Object page of Catagolue, to go and look at how common or rare the object really is, and look through the ways that it commonly forms.

In this case, that particular formation method didn't show up in the first ten C1 soups, so it's not super common. I think some of those ten converged on the same final stages of the formation sequence, but I didn't see that particular beehive-plus-active-blob.

I'd expect that key reaction to show up somewhere in Catagolue's collection of fourteener soups, but without continuing the survey I don't know that for sure. It looks like there are some symmetries where Catagolue has stopped collecting soups for fourteeners because they're too common -- not sure what the thresholds are, but numbers near 100 and 200 I think are signs that Catagolue has filled up its quota... not sure about the "150", which also looks suspiciously like a round number but maybe that's a coincidence.

It looks like a fourteener forms naturally in a lot of different ways -- as an index fossil for a pi plus honey farm combination, for example:

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x = 19, y = 18, rule = B3/S23
b2o$2o$b2o3$12bo$11bobo$11bobo$12bo2$7b2o7b2o$6bo2bo5bo2bo$7b2o7b2o2$
12bo$11bobo$11bobo$12bo!