Thread For Your Naming Proposals of Unnamed Patterns

[haaaaaands]

Considering this is the thinnest diagonal c/4 spaceship, what should it be called?

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x = 28, y = 25, rule = B3/S23
b2o2bo$2o4bo$2b2obo2b3o$4b2o2b2obob2o$11bobobo$13bo$14bobo$16bo$17bo$
18bo$18bobo2$20b2o$20bo$19b2o$20b2o2$22bo$21bo2b2o$22bob2o$26bo$24bobo
$24bo$25bobo$27bo!

what about the noodle? it looks like a noodle to me.

[confocaloid]

proposed name: böjd

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#C böjd
#C 15.76; Trans cis shillelagh head siamese curl
#C https://catagolue.hatsya.com/object/xs15_69bojd/b3s23
x = 6, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
b2ob2o$obobo$o4bo$b3obo$3b2o!

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x = 20, y = 35, rule = B3/S23
3b2o$b3obo3b2o$o4bo2bobo$obobo3b2o$b2ob2o6$17b2o$17bobo$17bo$3b2o$b3o
bo3b2o$o4bo2bo2bo$obobo3bo2bo$b2ob2o3b2o2$14bo$13b2o$13bobo$3bo$b3o$o
3b2o$obobobo$b2obobo$5bo5$17b2o$17bobo$17bo!

[johamwit]

Surprisingly, the rare 2c/5 orthogonal spaceship remains unnamed...

Proposal : Tooken

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x = 24, y = 63, rule = B3/S23
7$5b2o$6bo$6bob2o9bo$7bobo7b3o$16bo$16b2o7$8bo$7bobo$6bo3bo$6bo3bo$5b
3ob3o$5bo4bo2b3o$4bo6b3o2bo$5bo3b4o3bo$11b2ob2o$14b3o$15bo$14bo3$8bo$
7bobo$6bo3bo$6bo3bo$5b3ob3o$5bo4bo2b3o$4bo6b3o2bo$5bo3b4o3bo$11b2ob2o
$14b3o$15bo$14bo3$8bo$7bobo$6bo3bo$6bo3bo$5b3ob3o$5bo4bo2b3o$4bo6b3o2b
o$5bo3b4o3bo$11b2ob2o$14b3o$15bo$14bo!
#C [[ AUTOSTART GPS 2 ANGLE 90 THUMBNAIL ZOOM 16 ]]

[HerscheltheHerschel]

Surprisingly, the rare 2c/5 orthogonal spaceship remains unnamed...

Proposal : Tooken

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x = 24, y = 63, rule = B3/S23
7$5b2o$6bo$6bob2o9bo$7bobo7b3o$16bo$16b2o7$8bo$7bobo$6bo3bo$6bo3bo$5b
3ob3o$5bo4bo2b3o$4bo6b3o2bo$5bo3b4o3bo$11b2ob2o$14b3o$15bo$14bo3$8bo$
7bobo$6bo3bo$6bo3bo$5b3ob3o$5bo4bo2b3o$4bo6b3o2bo$5bo3b4o3bo$11b2ob2o
$14b3o$15bo$14bo3$8bo$7bobo$6bo3bo$6bo3bo$5b3ob3o$5bo4bo2b3o$4bo6b3o2b
o$5bo3b4o3bo$11b2ob2o$14b3o$15bo$14bo!
#C [[ AUTOSTART GPS 2 ANGLE 90 THUMBNAIL ZOOM 16 ]]

I like "Caravan" better

[Haycat2009]

Surprisingly, the rare 2c/5 orthogonal spaceship remains unnamed...

Proposal : Tooken

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x = 24, y = 63, rule = B3/S23
7$5b2o$6bo$6bob2o9bo$7bobo7b3o$16bo$16b2o7$8bo$7bobo$6bo3bo$6bo3bo$5b
3ob3o$5bo4bo2b3o$4bo6b3o2bo$5bo3b4o3bo$11b2ob2o$14b3o$15bo$14bo3$8bo$
7bobo$6bo3bo$6bo3bo$5b3ob3o$5bo4bo2b3o$4bo6b3o2bo$5bo3b4o3bo$11b2ob2o
$14b3o$15bo$14bo3$8bo$7bobo$6bo3bo$6bo3bo$5b3ob3o$5bo4bo2b3o$4bo6b3o2b
o$5bo3b4o3bo$11b2ob2o$14b3o$15bo$14bo!
#C [[ AUTOSTART GPS 2 ANGLE 90 THUMBNAIL ZOOM 16 ]]

I like "Caravan" better

Caravan is better as it has a house at front

[HerscheltheHerschel]

Screw:

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x = 5, y = 6, rule = B3/S23
b3o$o3bo$2ob2o$bobo$bobo$2bo!

[HerscheltheHerschel]

Sorry for doublepost, but how should be the third oscillator in this series be called? (the first is called pulsar and the second is called quasar)

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x = 93, y = 45, rule = B3/S23
66b3o3b3o2$64bo4bobo4bo$64bo4bobo4bo$64bo4bobo4bo$66b3o3b3o2$64b3o7b3o
$26b3o3b3o23b3o2bo4bo3bo4bo2b3o$63bo4bo3bo4bo$24bo4bobo4bo19bo4bobo4b
o3bo4bobo4bo$24bo4bobo4bo19bo4bo17bo4bo$24bo4bobo4bo19bo4bo2b3o7b3o2b
o4bo$26b3o3b3o23b3o19b3o2$24b3o7b3o19b3o23b3o$2b3o3b3o7b3o2bo4bo3bo4b
o2b3o7b3o2bo4bo19bo4bo2b3o$23bo4bo3bo4bo17bo4bo19bo4bo$o4bobo4bo3bo4b
obo4bo3bo4bobo4bo3bo4bobo4bo19bo4bobo4bo$o4bobo4bo3bo4bo17bo4bo3bo4bo
33bo4bo$o4bobo4bo3bo4bo2b3o7b3o2bo4bo3bo4bo2b3o23b3o2bo4bo$2b3o3b3o7b
3o19b3o7b3o35b3o2$2b3o3b3o7b3o19b3o7b3o35b3o$o4bobo4bo3bo4bo2b3o7b3o2b
o4bo3bo4bo2b3o23b3o2bo4bo$o4bobo4bo3bo4bo17bo4bo3bo4bo33bo4bo$o4bobo4b
o3bo4bobo4bo3bo4bobo4bo3bo4bobo4bo19bo4bobo4bo$23bo4bo3bo4bo17bo4bo19b
o4bo$2b3o3b3o7b3o2bo4bo3bo4bo2b3o7b3o2bo4bo19bo4bo2b3o$24b3o7b3o19b3o
23b3o2$26b3o3b3o23b3o19b3o$24bo4bobo4bo19bo4bo2b3o7b3o2bo4bo$24bo4bob
o4bo19bo4bo17bo4bo$24bo4bobo4bo19bo4bobo4bo3bo4bobo4bo$63bo4bo3bo4bo$
26b3o3b3o23b3o2bo4bo3bo4bo2b3o$64b3o7b3o2$66b3o3b3o$64bo4bobo4bo$64bo
4bobo4bo$64bo4bobo4bo2$66b3o3b3o!

[dvgrn]

Sorry for doublepost, but how should be the third oscillator in this series be called? (the first is called pulsar and the second is called quasar)

It's called "the third oscillator in the series after pulsar and quasar".

If we applied an arbitrary name to that one, then we'd just need a name for the fourth oscillator in the series (which is also shown in the quasar article)... and so on. Have to stop somewhere, and the place where we've already stopped is a perfectly good place.

EDIT: it's a "bigger quasar" or "quasar 2", if you must -- but a name for that pattern is really just a solution in search of a problem.

[HerscheltheHerschel]

Sorry for doublepost, but how should be the third oscillator in this series be called? (the first is called pulsar and the second is called quasar)

It's called "the third oscillator in the series after pulsar and quasar".

If we applied an arbitrary name to that one, then we'd just need a name for the fourth oscillator in the series (which is also shown in the quasar article)... and so on. Have to stop somewhere, and the place where we've already stopped is a perfectly good place.

I think a good place to stop would be the third oscillator in the series. The third would have an (unique) name, and the fourth could be called "bigger [name of third oscillator in series]".
Edit: I do not like "quasar 2".

[haaaaaands]

the unnamed (34,7)c/156 spaceship looks like a polygon. hmmm...

what about calling it the "polygon"?

[b-engine]

the unnamed (34,7)c/156 spaceship looks like a polygon. hmmm...

what about calling it the "polygon"?

I think "tetragon" is better.

[confocaloid]

it has a house at front

Besides the fact that 30P5H2V0 is the only name of the spaceship that is in common use, here is a reason why it's likely a bad idea to apply a seemingly "meaningful" name to a single spaceship:

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#C taken from https://github.com/Matthias-Merzenich/jslife-moving/blob/master/velocity-2c5/ships-2c5.rle
#C [[ ZOOM 4 TRACKLOOP 5 -2/5 0/5 ]]
x = 91, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
5bo29bo29bo$2b2ob2o25b2ob2o25b2ob2o$bobobo25bobobo25bobobo$2o3bo24b2o
3bo24b2o3bo$bobo2bo24bobo2bo24bobo2bo12b2o8bo$2b2obo26b2obo26b2obo11b
2o3bo5b2o$74bobobo4bo3b2obo$6b2o28b2o28b2o6bobobo3bo2bo$5bob3o25bob3o
25bob3o3bobo5bob2o4bo$4bo3b3o23bo3b3o23bo3b3o2bobobo7bo$5bobo27bobo7bo
19bobo6bobo3bo$6bo29bo8bo20bo7bob2obo$45bob3o2bo$41b2o9bo$41bo2b2obobo
bo$41bo4bo4bobo$42bo3bob2obobo8$80bo$77b2ob2o$76bobobo$75b2o3bo$76bobo
2bo$77b2obo$5bo29bo$2b2ob2o25b2ob2o44b2o$bobobo25bobobo43bo2bo$2o3bo
24b2o3bo42b5ob2o$bobo2bo24bobo2bo40bo$2b2obo26b2obo42b2o$79b3o$6b2o28b
2o43bo$6b2o28b2o$6b2o28b2o43bo$79b3o$3b3o2b2o23b3o2b2o38b2o$4bobo27bob
o8b2o30bo$5bo3bo25bo3bo5b2o31b5ob2o$5bo3bo25bo5b2o2bo2bobobo26bo2bo$
40b2obobo3bo4bo26b2o$39bobobobo3bobo2bobob2o$39bobo14b4o17b2obo$39b2o
10bo24bobo2bo$52b2ob3o17b2o3bo$53b2o3bo2b2o13bobobo$57b2obo16b2ob2o$
80bo!

Both 30P5H2V0 and 34P5H2V0 "have a house at front", and there are more.
The proposed name is bad, because it is misleading. It suggests a specific kind of uniqueness that is not there.

Pentadecathlon ID descriptions, such as 30P5H2V0 or 34P5H2V0, might not be the best possible names. However, such descriptors have at least three objective advantages -
(a) They are descriptive: you can immediately know the minimum population (30), period (5), horizontal displacement (2), vertical displacement (0).
(b) They are honest: there is no implication of some kind of "visual feature" that in the end fails to be unique to the spaceship in question.
(c) They are commonly used as a convenient way to refer to patterns. They are fairly short, and do not have delimiters in them (hence easy to search).

Even the word 'glider' can mislead, when you go beyond B3/S23. Other small common spaceships are also frequently described as gliders.
In comparison, 5P4H1V1 essentially says "a period-4 c/4 diagonal spaceship with minimum population 5".

[b-engine]

204P41 and 208P41 - P41 glider loop 1 (as there's no p41s that uses independent reflector)
246P41 - P41 glider loop 2

[confocaloid]

P41 glider loop 1
P41 glider loop 2

In general, sequential numbering in pattern names is more confusing, not less. (Also, by the existing convention you would need 'p41' rather than 'P41'.)

What is wrong with the existing Pentadecathlon ID descriptors? 246P41 refers to a 246-cell p41 oscillator. 204P41 refers to a 204-cell p41 oscillator.

(as there's no p41s that uses independent reflector)

Here is a p41 glider loop oscillator that uses independent reflectors (p41 bumpers), remove a glider to verify that it still works (albeit with a different period):

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x = 151, y = 151, rule = B3/S23
70b2o$70bobo2b2o$72bo3bo$68b4ob3o$62bo5bo2bobo$62b3o7bo2b3o$65bo8b2o2b
o$64b2o11b2o3$67b3o$65b6o$66bo2bo$67b2o4b2o$73bobo$75bo$75b2o$59bo9b2o
$58bobo8b2o$66b2o5bo$57bo5b2o2bo5b3o$62b3o3bo7bo$62bo2b2o2bo3b3obo$58b
o7bobo3bo2bobo$53bo5bob2o10b2o2b2o$52bobo4b3o12bobo$52b2o5b2o13bobo$
48bo10bo4bo10bo$47bobo13b2o5b2o$47bobo12b3o4bobo$45b2o2b2o10b2obo5bo$
46bobo2bo3bobo7bo$46bob3o3bo2b2o2bo$47bo7bo3b3o$48b3o5bo2b2o5bo$50bo5b
2o$53b2o8bobo$53b2o9bo17bo$47b2o31b3o$48bo15b2o13bo$48bobo12bo2bo12b2o
$49b2o4b2o7b2o$54bo2bo17bo$53b6o15bobo$54b3o9bo6bo2bo$65bobo6b2o26b2o
16bo$65bobo33bobo14b3o$45b2o11b2o6bo30b2o2bo10bo4bo3b2o$45bo2b2o8bo38b
obob2o7b3o3bob2o3bo$46b3o2bo7b3o16b2o19bo2bo6bo6bobob3o$50bobo2bo5bo9b
o5b2o20b2o8b2o4b2obobo$48b3ob4o13b2o8bo17b2o2bo17bo$47bo3bo18b2o24bo2b
2o23b2o$47b2o2bobo42b2obo7bo5b2o9bobo$52b2o45bo6b3o4b2o3bo6bo$99b2o5b
2obo7bobo$106b2obo5b2o$107b2o6bo2b2o10bo$102b2o3bo10bo8bo4bo$88b2o11bo
bo12b2o5b4o6bo$60bo27bobo10bo14b2o6b2o6bo$59bo28bo11b2o15b2obo4b2o$59b
3o58b2o4bob2o15b2o$110bo3bo6b2o6b2o14bo$109bobobo6b4o5b2o12bobo$104b2o
3bobo2bo4bo8bo10bo3b2o$103bo2bo3bo5bo10b2o2bo6b2o$104b2o24b2o5bob2o$
37b2o88bobo7bob2o5b2o$38bo60bo21bo6bo3b2o4b3o6bo$38bobo57b2o20bobo9b2o
5bo7bob2o$39b2o8bobo46bobo20b2o23b2o2bo$6b2o16bo24b2o76bo17bo2b2o$5bob
o14b3o25bo55bo19bobob2o4b2o8b2o$b2o2bo10bo4bo3b2o16b2o60bobo16b3obobo
6bo6bo2bo$bobob2o7b3o3bob2o3bo14bo2bo59bo2bo14bo3b2obo3b3o7b2obobo$3bo
2bo6bo6bobob3o16bobo60b2o16b2o3bo4bo10bo2b2o$3b2o8b2o4b2obobo19bo55bo
25b3o14bobo$b2o2bo17bo76b2o24bo16b2o$o2b2o23b2o20bobo46bobo8b2o$2obo7b
o5b2o9bobo20b2o57bobo$3bo6b3o4b2o3bo6bo21bo60bo$3b2o5b2obo7bobo88b2o$
10b2obo5b2o24b2o$11b2o6bo2b2o10bo5bo3bo2bo$6b2o3bo10bo8bo4bo2bobo3b2o$
5bobo12b2o5b4o6bobobo$5bo14b2o6b2o6bo3bo$4b2o15b2obo4b2o58b3o$24b2o4bo
b2o15b2o11bo28bo$18bo6b2o6b2o14bo10bobo27bo$17bo6b4o5b2o12bobo11b2o$
18bo4bo8bo10bo3b2o$20bo10b2o2bo6b2o$34b2o5bob2o$31bobo7bob2o5b2o$25bo
6bo3b2o4b3o6bo45b2o$24bobo9b2o5bo7bob2o42bobo2b2o$25b2o23b2o2bo24b2o
18bo3bo$31bo17bo2b2o17bo8b2o13b4ob3o$30bobob2o4b2o8b2o20b2o5bo9bo5bo2b
obo$28b3obobo6bo6bo2bo19b2o16b3o7bo2b3o$27bo3b2obo3b3o7b2obobo38bo8b2o
2bo$28b2o3bo4bo10bo2b2o30bo6b2o11b2o$30b3o14bobo33bobo$30bo16b2o26b2o
6bobo$74bo2bo6bo9b3o$74bobo15b6o$75bo17bo2bo$85b2o7b2o4b2o$70b2o12bo2b
o12bobo$71bo13b2o15bo$68b3o31b2o$68bo17bo9b2o$85bobo8b2o$93b2o5bo$84bo
5b2o2bo5b3o$89b3o3bo7bo$89bo2b2o2bo3b3obo$85bo7bobo3bo2bobo$80bo5bob2o
10b2o2b2o$79bobo4b3o12bobo$79b2o5b2o13bobo$75bo10bo4bo10bo$74bobo13b2o
5b2o$74bobo12b3o4bobo$72b2o2b2o10b2obo5bo$73bobo2bo3bobo7bo$73bob3o3bo
2b2o2bo$74bo7bo3b3o$75b3o5bo2b2o5bo$77bo5b2o$80b2o8bobo$80b2o9bo$74b2o
$75bo$75bobo$76b2o4b2o$81bo2bo$80b6o$81b3o3$72b2o11b2o$72bo2b2o8bo$73b
3o2bo7b3o$77bobo2bo5bo$75b3ob4o$74bo3bo$74b2o2bobo$79b2o!

[HerscheltheHerschel]

Pickaxe:

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x = 7, y = 6, rule = B3/S23
5bo$3b3o$2bo$bobo$bo2bobo$2o3b2o!

[b-engine]

Fuse with four tails:

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x = 33, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
28bo$5bo10bo9b3o$3b3o8b3o8bo$2bo3b2o5bo10bobo$bobo2bo5bobo3b2o4bo2bo3b
2o$bo2bobo5bo2bo2bo4b2o3bo2bo$2o3bo5b2o3bobo10bobo$2b3o12bo12bo$2bo11b
3o10b3o$14bo12bo!

EDIT:
22P36 - Traffic stopper (derived from traffic stop)

EDIT 2:
Cis-down ship on cis-carrier siamese bookend seems being too long, however this name can distinguish between other 7 isomers.
However, the 7 other isomers can't perform catalysis.

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#1. Cis-down ship on cis-carrier siamese bookend
#2. Trans-down ship on cis-carrier siamese bookend
#3. Cis-up ship on cis-carrier siamese bookend
#4. Trans-up ship on cis-carrier siamese bookend
#5. Cis-down ship on trans-carrier siamese bookend
#6. Trans-down ship on trans-carrier siamese bookend
#7. Cis-up ship on trans-carrier siamese bookend
#8. Trans-up ship on trans-carrier siamese bookend
x = 37, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
3b2o6b2o12b2o6b2o$2bobo6bobo10bobo6bobo$2b2o8b2o10b2o8b2o2$2b4o6b4o6b
4o6b4o$3bo2bo6bo2bo6bo2bo6bo2bo$bo3b2o4bo3b2o4bo3b2o4bo3b2o$b2o8b2o8b
2o8b2o3$3b2o6b2o12b2o6b2o$2bobo6bobo10bobo6bobo$2b2o8b2o10b2o8b2o2$2b
4o6b4o6b4o6b4o$o2bo2bo3bo2bo2bo3bo2bo2bo3bo2bo2bo$2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b
2o3b2o3b2o!

[C_R_116]

This composer forms with Schumann:

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x = 3, y = 8, rule = B3/S23
b2o$obo$bo3$bo$3o$bo!

I should have named this one "Brahms" considering the existence of Schumann.

I propose this composer to be called "Brahms."

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x = 5, y = 6, rule = B3/S23
b3o$o3bo2$o3bo2$b3o!

You shall be renamed to "Blockx."

[hth]

I think Tawal's new H-to-fishhook needs a name. I also think it is notable enough to go on the wiki.

[confocaloid]

P19 finally finished by Period1GliderGun:

Completion of JP21's p19 wick, meaning that there are now infinitely many p19 oscillators:

Well, I think this thing needs a wiki entry. How about a name?

[hotdogPi]

P19 finally finished by Period1GliderGun:

Completion of JP21's p19 wick, meaning that there are now infinitely many p19 oscillators:

Well, I think this thing needs a wiki entry. How about a name?

People on Discord have suggested "Go", in reference to the board being 19×19 and the other p19 already being a game. Period1GliderGun seems to be indifferent on naming it, saying it's a valid option but won't commit to it being final.

[Period1GliderGun]

Completion of JP21's p19 wick, meaning that there are now infinitely many p19 oscillators:

Well, I think this thing needs a wiki entry. How about a name?

People on Discord have suggested "Go", in reference to the board being 19×19 and the other p19 already being a game. Period1GliderGun seems to be indifferent on naming it, saying it's a valid option but won't commit to it being final.

"Go" is a good name. Let's go with it. (abysmal pun intended)
(My prior ambivalence was because I was considering something like "p19 honey farm hassler" as a nod to the p23 honey farm hassler, but there will probably be more p19 honey farm hasslers in the future.)

EDIT: I've decided that "go" is too general; see my next post.

[confocaloid]

People on Discord have suggested "Go", in reference to the board being 19×19 and the other p19 already being a game.

Or maybe "goban", in reference to the Go board itself.

Edit: sniped

[squareroot12621]

People on Discord have suggested "Go", in reference to the board being 19×19 and the other p19 already being a game.

Or maybe "goban", in reference to the Go board itself.

Edit: sniped

I like "goban" more, because "go" is already a common verb.

[Sokwe]

Does the following wick have an established name?

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x = 25, y = 2, rule = B3/S23
2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2obo$ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o!

I always thought of it as a "coiled snake".

It would be nice to have a name for it when describing Keith Amling's c/3 greystretchers and new 3c/6 wickstretchers.

[Period1GliderGun]

People on Discord have suggested "Go", in reference to the board being 19×19 and the other p19 already being a game.

Or maybe "goban", in reference to the Go board itself.

Edit: sniped

I like "goban" more, because "go" is already a common verb.

That's a good point. To avoid cluttering up this thread further, I vote that it be named "goban."

EDIT:

hmm, i made no p19 wicks though

That is correct and I'm stupid. The wick was actually by May13. (I don't know why I thought it was by JP21.)