Catagolue Discussion Thread

[muzik]

Is there any way to have this be classified properly as a linear growth and not zz_LINEAR?

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x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3-cjkq4knqy5cnr7/S02-cn3-ak4eiq5kq6e7e
obbboobbbobooobo$
ooooboobbboboobb$
bbobbbbbboobobbo$
bobbobboobbboboo$
oobboboobbbbobob$
obbbbobbbobbbbob$
ooboobbbobbboobb$
bobooobbbbobbbob$
bbobbbboboboboob$
bboooooboooooobb$
obbooobobbbbbbob$
oobbbobboooobbbo$
ooboobobboobobob$
ooboobobbboobboo$
bbbbbbbbbooboboo$
oobbbbbbboobbobb!

[yujh]

I think it’s well over the limit apgsearch tries, but I believe there’s some way to modify the code to make it work

[dani]

The highway is only p2250 in this rule, so I'm not sure why it defaults to zz_LINEAR. Maybe because of the complex underlying behaviour.

I even tried inputting the highway directly, with no success:

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x = 64, y = 43, rule = B3-cjkq4knqy5cnr7/S02-cn3-ak4eiq5kq6e7e
7bo6bo27bo7$7bo13bo6bo6bo6bo6bo7$o6bo6bo2$29bo2$25b2obob4o$25bo2bo2b3o
$25bo2bo$o13bo20bo6bo6bo13bo7$o13bo6bo27bo6bo6bo7$7bo6bo6bo6bo6bo20bo
7$14bo6bo20bo6bo!

[wwei47]

So smiley is significantly more common in G1 at the 5% significance level, but Achim's p8 is not.

Given the amount of objects that appear on Catagolue, we might want to use a 5σ confidence level or higher.

[hotdogPi]

Is there a way for Catagolue to automatically generate names of objects that are one induction coil on another with an empty row/column in between?

For example, this would be alef on griddle:

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x = 8, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
2ob2o$bobo$bo3bo$2b4o2$2b6o$2bo4bo$4bobo$4bo!

EDIT:

1 cell:
Boat, tub, beehive, loaf

2 cells:
Block, boat, beehive, loaf, ship, mango, snake, pond, long boat, beacon, bipole, tripole, quadpole, mold

3 cells:
House, bun, bookend, wing, dove, G, hungry G, house tie boat, honeycombinator, tub with nine, boat with nine, teardrop, tub with leg, boat with leg, barge with leg, long boat with leg

4 cells:
Dock, table, cap, alef, racetrack, anvil, long bookend, candlefrobra, tub with long leg, cis-boat with long leg, trans-boat with long leg, beehive with long leg, loaf with long leg, table siamese snake, tub with long nine, cis-boat with long nine, trans-boat with long nine

5 cells:
Very long house, worm, clip, long table siamese snake, hungry worm

6 cells:
Griddle, bookend siamese table, very long dock, long worm weld carrier, long clip

7: pi eater, extremely long dock

8: length-8 table with block, cis-mirrored worm siamese table

Non-contiguous:
Bi-block, snake

[LaundryPizza03]

Will apgsearch be updated in the near future? B0 rules are broken in the new version.

[May13]

I can't identify patterns in hexagonal rule.
After entering this RLE:

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x = 55, y = 55, rule = B2/S245H
9bo$7b2ob2o$5b2o2bo$5bo5bo$6bo2bo$2b2o5b2obo$2bobo3bobobo$bo11bo$bo4bo
$obob2o5bo$bo3b2o6b2o$bobo5bo6bo$5b2o9b2ob2o$7bo2bo7b4o$10bo5b2o4bo$
21bo3bo$11b2obo3bo2bo3b2o$12bobo5bo3bo2b2o$13bo2bob3obo3b3o$12b2o4bobo
5b2o2bo$12b2o3b6o3bobo$13bob2o3bo4bo2bo$14bo3bobo3bo2b2obo$24b3o3b3o$
17bo4b3obob2obobo$15b2o4bobo5bobo2b2obo$16bob3o2b2o3b2o2bo2bo$17b3o2bo
6b2o4bo2bo$17b2ob3obobo3bo5bo$24b4o2bo2b3o3b2o$19bo2b2o3b3o4bo$23b3o7b
o$23bo2bo5b2o5bo$24bo4bob2ob3o$25bo3b2o2b2obo$25b3obo3bo3bo$28bo4b2obo
bo3bo$25bo9bo2b4obo$27bo8b2o2b2o2b4o$29bo2bo4bobo3b3o$29bo7b2obo2bo4bo
$37b2o4b4o$36bo6b2ob4o$37bob4o$38b2ob2obobo2bo$38b2obo5b2o$38bo2b2obob
obo$38bo3bo2bobobo2bo$40bobo2b2obo2b2o$42bobo2bo3bo2bo$52bo$48b2ob2o$
47b2ob2o$53bo$49bo4bo!

Catagolue returns:

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Invalid: rulestring b2s245h does not match regex b[1-8ceaiknjqrytwz-]*s[0-8ceaiknjqrytwz-]*

[LaundryPizza03]

apgsearch v5.18-ll2.3.7 is sometimes aborting after completing a haul on my computer while it's asleep. I'm not sure if this affects the new version as well, since I avoid it to be able to run B0, and this started happening only yesterday.

EDIT: It does not appear to be related to sleep mode, but rather happens spontaneously. It seems to happen more often if there are too many runnign processes using the internet.
EDIT2: The issue is probably related to server glitches at Catagolue's end.

[dani]

Whoever haukeworpel is PLEASE stop searching B456/S234. It's clogging up Catagolue and making hauls take hours to submit.

[confocaloid]

Sometimes Catagolue does not display correctly the rulespace where a given object works unchanged. For example, I think the following spaceship works in two INT rules (S4c is optional):

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B34cy5e6ci8/S23-cy4ey5e6ik
3o$2bo$b2o!

However, neither of two pages (one, two) displays links to the minrule and the maxrule.
(For an example where the rulespace is displayed correctly, the page for the glider says "This evolutionary sequence works in multiple rules, from b3aijns2ae3jnr through to b2ikn34-r5-n678s0234-k5678." which seems correct.)

[GUYTU6J]

Sometimes Catagolue does not display correctly the rulespace where a given object works unchanged. For example, I think the following spaceship works in two INT rules (S4c is optional):

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B34cy5e6ci8/S23-cy4ey5e6ik
3o$2bo$b2o!

However, neither of two pages (one, two) displays links to the minrule and the maxrule. ...

That is because its period is above 128. Compare xp128_y3ca73oswcczyqg88gzy1ggyh6bbcxca4z8ko010onmcy04eewuscy26dt30g0352z4a6x6qqcyh11zy01221zyh66w73osa6 and xp130_y133y9ggyd33z33x6952y6322oo488oy6756x33zwml2yc1mkkk2ya2lmzw121g8gy92dcg89cy6ggg121z33x1221y6355yc321x33zy133ys33 and you can see that.
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Another related issue concerns the pattern-identifying box on the object page that seems to be a bit more complex than what's mentioned here. This p2048 cannot be identified...

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x = 66, y = 74, rule = B3-jknr4ity5ijk6i8/S23-a4city6c7c
24bo15bo$23bobo13bobo16bo$24bo15bo16bobo$58bo2$41bo$18bo21bobo$17bobo
21b2o21bo$18bo44bobo$64bo10$36bo8bo$30bo4bobo6bobo$29bobo4bo8bo$30b2o$
64bo$59bo3bobo$58bobo3bo$35bo22b2o$34bobo$35bo2$49bo$48bobo$49bo5$35bo
26bo$34bobo24bobo$35bo26bo4$29bo$28bobo$10bo18bo13bo$9bobo30bobo$10bo
32bo17bo$60bobo$61bo$11bo14bo$10bobo6bo5bobo$11bo5b2o5bobo$17bo7bo4bo
2bo$bo15b3o9bob2obo$obo27bo2bo$bo2$23bo2bo$23bobo$23b3o9bo$35b2o$37b2o
$32b2o4b2o$14bo13bo2bobo3b2o$13bobo12b2o7bo$10bo3bo4bo$9bobo6bobo$10bo
6bobo$18bo16bo$34bobo$21bo13bo$20bobo$21bo!

...but removing the leftmost redundant tub allows it to be identified.

[LaundryPizza03]

There is a serious shortcoming in the HROT notation. Because the neighborhood count starts at 1, it is impossible to specify an HROT rule with S0.

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#C No Catagolue representation
x = 64, y = 64, rule = R4,C0,S0-4,24-38,B22-31
b2obobob2obo2b5o2bo5b5ob3o3bo2b2obo2bob2obob2o3b3o$3bobo2b3ob4o3bob2ob
obo2b8obo5b5o2bobo3b4ob2o$2bob2o2bo4bobo3b2ob2o7bo2b2ob3ob3o2b4o2b3o2b
2o3b2o$3bo3bobo4b2o2b2ob2o2b2o2bo2bo8b2obo2bo2b2o4b4ob2o$b2ob3obob3ob
2ob2ob5ob2ob3o4bo2b2ob3o2b2obob3ob2o2b4o$o2b3o2bo2bo2bo2b4ob2o2bobob2o
bobo3bobob2obob2o2b5obob3o$bo2bo4b3o3bobo4b3o3b2o3bo4b5ob2o2bo2bob2obo
3bo2bo$4obo5b5o2b3o2bo2bo2bo2b2o3bobo4b2o2b4o2b3ob3o$2ob7o4b2o2bo2bobo
3b2ob5obob2o5b2ob5obo2bo3b3o$2o3bob6obo2bo2b7obob2ob2obobob4obo6bo2bob
ob3obo$o2b4ob3ob2ob2ob2ob2o4b4obob2o2bob2o2bob3o10bo2bo$b4obobo2b4obob
2obobobo2bobo2b3obo2bo6b4obo5b2o$2bo7bo3bo2bo3b3o2b3o4bobobob2o7b2o2bo
2b3o2b3o$2obobo2bo3bo3b3obob3o2bo4bobo3b2o4b2o4bo2b3o3b2obo$5obo2b2o2b
obobo5bo2bobo2bo3b4o3bo3bobobob2ob2obob2o$b6o4bob3obo2bob2ob2obobo3b2o
bo4b2o7bob2o2b2o$2obo4b3obo2bob4obo3bo3bob2o2bo2bo4b3obob7ob2o2bo$2bo
4bobob3o3b5obob2o3bo3bobo2bo3bobo3b4o2bo6b2o$obo2b2o3b3obob4o3bo2b4o3b
2o2b2o4bo6b2ob2o2bob3o$3o2b2obo4b2ob2o2b2obo3b2obob2o2bob2obob2o5b2ob
3o2bo2bobo$6b4obo3bo2b2obob2o4b2obob3o2b2o3bob2o4b2o2b2o3bobo$bob2obo
3bobo2bo5b2obo7bo2bo2b5obo3b3obobo3b3o$2ob4o2bo3bo3bobobo3bob4ob2ob3o
3bo3b2obob3o7bob2o$5bo2bo4bo5b2o2bobo2bo2b3obob4o2bob2o3b3o2b4o3b2o$5b
o3bobob2ob3obo2b6ob2ob2o4b2o5bo2bo2bo7bo$obo3bo2b2o2b4obo3bobo4b2o2b2o
2bob2obob3ob6ob2o2b4o$5b4ob2o2bob3ob2o2bo2bob2obo6bobob2obobo4b5o2b4o$
2b2ob2o2bob2ob2obob4obo2b4obo2bobob4o3bobo3bo2bob2obo2bo$3ob3o3bo3bobo
6b2ob3obob4obobob4o2bo2b4ob2obo2bo$2b3ob2o4b2o3b2obob2o6b3obo2bo2b2ob
2obo2b2o2b7obobo$2bo2bob2obob2obob2o3b2obo4b3ob2o2bo2b2o2b3o2b2o3bo2b
2obobo$2b4o2b2obobo3bob6o5b2ob3obo4bo4b2obobo4b2o2bobo$o4b3obobob6o3b
2o2bo2b2o5bob2o4bo4bob7ob4o$b2o2bob7ob2obob2ob3o2b2obobo3b4obo2b2o2b2o
bob2ob7o$o5bo2bob2o3b3o2bo3b5ob2ob2ob2o3bo4bo2b3o2bo3bob2o$bo2bobo6bob
3ob5ob3obo2b3o2b2o2b2o3bo2b2o2bo2bo2b2o$obobo3bobobob5o2bob3ob4obobob
2o2bo2b4obo2b9ob2o$3bo4b3ob5ob2o3b3ob8obob3obob2ob2o2b2ob3ob5o$bo2b2ob
o2bo3bo2b2o3bo2b3ob4ob7o3bobo4b2obo2bob3obo$4o7bobob2o2b2o3bob2o2bo2b
3ob2o5bobob3o4b2o3bo2bo$5o4b2ob4o10bobob2ob2o3b2obo2b7ob2ob5ob2o$2bo3b
obob2o3bobo2bob3o4bo3b3o4b2obo4bo5b2o6bo$3b4o2bo3b3obobo6bobo4bobo2bob
ob7obo2bob3obo2b2o$2b3ob5ob3o2b2o2bob3o2b3o2bo2bo4b6o6b6o3bo$5bob6obob
obo3bo2bobo2b3obo3bob2ob2ob2obo2b4obob4o$2ob2obobo3b2obob2o7b2ob3ob2ob
o2bo2b2o2b3o4b2o5bobo$obo3b2ob4o2bob2o2b2ob3obobob4o4b5o8b3obob5o$2bo
3bo3b2ob3o2bo4bob3obo2bobobob2o2b2o2b5obobobob2o2b2o$o3bo4bob2ob2obo2b
3o3b3obo2b4ob3o3b3obobo2b2obob3o$o2bob2ob2o2b2o4b2ob2o3bob2ob2o2bo2bo
2bo5b2obobob2obo4b2o$6o2bo2bobobo3bo2b3o2bob4ob2obo3b7obo2bob2obob2o2b
o$bobobob2o3bobobo2bob4obob2ob3o5b2o2b2o3b3ob2ob5o$2bobo3b7o2bobob3o2b
3ob2o2b2ob2o4bob5o3bob3o3bobo$bobobobo2b3o3b3o5bo3b2obo2b7ob3ob4o3b6ob
2obo$o2b2o3bobo2b4o7b3o5b3obo2bo2b4o2bo4b3ob7o$o5bobobob2obo2bob2ob2ob
o2b2o8b2ob2o3bobo5b2o3b4o$bob2ob3obob2ob3obo2b3ob2o2b5obobo5bob4obo3bo
3bobobo$o3b4obobob2o3b3o4bob2o2bob3obob2obob4o2bob2obo2b2ob3o$o4b2obob
2obo6bo2bo2b2ob2ob4o6bob2o4bobo3b4o2bo$3b3o2b3o3bo3bo8b2ob2o3bob2ob4ob
4ob4o2bo2bo3bo$bobobo5b6ob3o2b2o3bob2o7b3obo2b4o3bo4bobo$2o3bo3b2ob7o
3b3o2b2obobo3bobob3obob2obob2o5b3obo$obob2o3b2obo4b2o2bob4o2bo4bob2o3b
4ob2obo2bo3bo2b2ob2o$bo4b3o2b2obobob2obo4bo2bo2b3obo2bob2ob3o4b2obo2b
4obo!

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#C r4b0000000000007fe00000s00000000003fff80000f
x = 64, y = 64, rule = R4,C0,S1-4,24-38,B22-31
b2obobob2obo2b5o2bo5b5ob3o3bo2b2obo2bob2obob2o3b3o$3bobo2b3ob4o3bob2ob
obo2b8obo5b5o2bobo3b4ob2o$2bob2o2bo4bobo3b2ob2o7bo2b2ob3ob3o2b4o2b3o2b
2o3b2o$3bo3bobo4b2o2b2ob2o2b2o2bo2bo8b2obo2bo2b2o4b4ob2o$b2ob3obob3ob
2ob2ob5ob2ob3o4bo2b2ob3o2b2obob3ob2o2b4o$o2b3o2bo2bo2bo2b4ob2o2bobob2o
bobo3bobob2obob2o2b5obob3o$bo2bo4b3o3bobo4b3o3b2o3bo4b5ob2o2bo2bob2obo
3bo2bo$4obo5b5o2b3o2bo2bo2bo2b2o3bobo4b2o2b4o2b3ob3o$2ob7o4b2o2bo2bobo
3b2ob5obob2o5b2ob5obo2bo3b3o$2o3bob6obo2bo2b7obob2ob2obobob4obo6bo2bob
ob3obo$o2b4ob3ob2ob2ob2ob2o4b4obob2o2bob2o2bob3o10bo2bo$b4obobo2b4obob
2obobobo2bobo2b3obo2bo6b4obo5b2o$2bo7bo3bo2bo3b3o2b3o4bobobob2o7b2o2bo
2b3o2b3o$2obobo2bo3bo3b3obob3o2bo4bobo3b2o4b2o4bo2b3o3b2obo$5obo2b2o2b
obobo5bo2bobo2bo3b4o3bo3bobobob2ob2obob2o$b6o4bob3obo2bob2ob2obobo3b2o
bo4b2o7bob2o2b2o$2obo4b3obo2bob4obo3bo3bob2o2bo2bo4b3obob7ob2o2bo$2bo
4bobob3o3b5obob2o3bo3bobo2bo3bobo3b4o2bo6b2o$obo2b2o3b3obob4o3bo2b4o3b
2o2b2o4bo6b2ob2o2bob3o$3o2b2obo4b2ob2o2b2obo3b2obob2o2bob2obob2o5b2ob
3o2bo2bobo$6b4obo3bo2b2obob2o4b2obob3o2b2o3bob2o4b2o2b2o3bobo$bob2obo
3bobo2bo5b2obo7bo2bo2b5obo3b3obobo3b3o$2ob4o2bo3bo3bobobo3bob4ob2ob3o
3bo3b2obob3o7bob2o$5bo2bo4bo5b2o2bobo2bo2b3obob4o2bob2o3b3o2b4o3b2o$5b
o3bobob2ob3obo2b6ob2ob2o4b2o5bo2bo2bo7bo$obo3bo2b2o2b4obo3bobo4b2o2b2o
2bob2obob3ob6ob2o2b4o$5b4ob2o2bob3ob2o2bo2bob2obo6bobob2obobo4b5o2b4o$
2b2ob2o2bob2ob2obob4obo2b4obo2bobob4o3bobo3bo2bob2obo2bo$3ob3o3bo3bobo
6b2ob3obob4obobob4o2bo2b4ob2obo2bo$2b3ob2o4b2o3b2obob2o6b3obo2bo2b2ob
2obo2b2o2b7obobo$2bo2bob2obob2obob2o3b2obo4b3ob2o2bo2b2o2b3o2b2o3bo2b
2obobo$2b4o2b2obobo3bob6o5b2ob3obo4bo4b2obobo4b2o2bobo$o4b3obobob6o3b
2o2bo2b2o5bob2o4bo4bob7ob4o$b2o2bob7ob2obob2ob3o2b2obobo3b4obo2b2o2b2o
bob2ob7o$o5bo2bob2o3b3o2bo3b5ob2ob2ob2o3bo4bo2b3o2bo3bob2o$bo2bobo6bob
3ob5ob3obo2b3o2b2o2b2o3bo2b2o2bo2bo2b2o$obobo3bobobob5o2bob3ob4obobob
2o2bo2b4obo2b9ob2o$3bo4b3ob5ob2o3b3ob8obob3obob2ob2o2b2ob3ob5o$bo2b2ob
o2bo3bo2b2o3bo2b3ob4ob7o3bobo4b2obo2bob3obo$4o7bobob2o2b2o3bob2o2bo2b
3ob2o5bobob3o4b2o3bo2bo$5o4b2ob4o10bobob2ob2o3b2obo2b7ob2ob5ob2o$2bo3b
obob2o3bobo2bob3o4bo3b3o4b2obo4bo5b2o6bo$3b4o2bo3b3obobo6bobo4bobo2bob
ob7obo2bob3obo2b2o$2b3ob5ob3o2b2o2bob3o2b3o2bo2bo4b6o6b6o3bo$5bob6obob
obo3bo2bobo2b3obo3bob2ob2ob2obo2b4obob4o$2ob2obobo3b2obob2o7b2ob3ob2ob
o2bo2b2o2b3o4b2o5bobo$obo3b2ob4o2bob2o2b2ob3obobob4o4b5o8b3obob5o$2bo
3bo3b2ob3o2bo4bob3obo2bobobob2o2b2o2b5obobobob2o2b2o$o3bo4bob2ob2obo2b
3o3b3obo2b4ob3o3b3obobo2b2obob3o$o2bob2ob2o2b2o4b2ob2o3bob2ob2o2bo2bo
2bo5b2obobob2obo4b2o$6o2bo2bobobo3bo2b3o2bob4ob2obo3b7obo2bob2obob2o2b
o$bobobob2o3bobobo2bob4obob2ob3o5b2o2b2o3b3ob2ob5o$2bobo3b7o2bobob3o2b
3ob2o2b2ob2o4bob5o3bob3o3bobo$bobobobo2b3o3b3o5bo3b2obo2b7ob3ob4o3b6ob
2obo$o2b2o3bobo2b4o7b3o5b3obo2bo2b4o2bo4b3ob7o$o5bobobob2obo2bob2ob2ob
o2b2o8b2ob2o3bobo5b2o3b4o$bob2ob3obob2ob3obo2b3ob2o2b5obobo5bob4obo3bo
3bobobo$o3b4obobob2o3b3o4bob2o2bob3obob2obob4o2bob2obo2b2ob3o$o4b2obob
2obo6bo2bo2b2ob2ob4o6bob2o4bobo3b4o2bo$3b3o2b3o3bo3bo8b2ob2o3bob2ob4ob
4ob4o2bo2bo3bo$bobobo5b6ob3o2b2o3bob2o7b3obo2b4o3bo4bobo$2o3bo3b2ob7o
3b3o2b2obobo3bobob3obob2obob2o5b3obo$obob2o3b2obo4b2o2bob4o2bo4bob2o3b
4ob2obo2bo3bo2b2ob2o$bo4b3o2b2obobob2obo4bo2bo2b3obo2bob2ob3o4b2obo2b
4obo!

[apg]

There is a serious shortcoming in the HROT notation. Because the neighborhood count starts at 1, it is impossible to specify an HROT rule with S0.

Append a 'z' to the very end of the rulestring (at the end of the survival transitions) if you want S0.

[LaundryPizza03]

New hauls, such as in b2ce3ack4ewy5ceiy6cs12a3ceq4ckr5eijk7e/C1 and b38s23/C1, are not being committed to Catagolue, except in B0 rules.

[hwor1]

Regular old b3s23/c1 is still going through. Is catagolue just backed up because there's a b0something haul getting uploaded every few seconds, faster than can be cleared out?

[LaundryPizza03]

Regular old b3s23/c1 is still going through. Is catagolue just backed up because there's a b0something haul getting uploaded every few seconds, faster than can be cleared out?

This is exactly what was found at discord. Processing of B0 hauls has been temporarily suspended.

[pzq_alex]

503 Over Quota right now

[hwor1]

Yeah, losing some big hauls like that is kind of annoying.

[yujh]

Yeah, losing some big hauls like that is kind of annoying.

You will always get the chance to resubmit those when it is back again, unless your haul is just has too much information : )

[pzq_alex]

Up!

[LaundryPizza03]

Why are LtL and HROT rules more sensitive to zz and PATHOLOGICAL than OT and INT rules?

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#C PATHOLOGICAL soup that settles in approximately 8000 generations
x = 16, y = 16, rule = R5,C0,S0,4-10,33-57,82,B34-45
b5obo2bo4bo$o2bo4b5ob2o$3o4bo3bobo$3ob3o3bo3b2o$o4b5o2b4o$5obobo5bo$2b
2o4bo3b4o$o2bo4b3obob2o$2bo3bo4bobo$2o2bo3b4o$2o2b3o3b2o2b2o$2obo2b3ob
ob3o$2b2o2b3o3b3o$o2b4o3bo$3ob2o4bo$3obo5bo4bo!

[yujh]

Why are LtL and HROT rules more sensitive to zz and PATHOLOGICAL than OT and INT rules?

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#C PATHOLOGICAL soup that settles in approximately 8000 generations
x = 16, y = 16, rule = R5,C0,S0,4-10,33-57,82,B34-45
b5obo2bo4bo$o2bo4b5ob2o$3o4bo3bobo$3ob3o3bo3b2o$o4b5o2b4o$5obobo5bo$2b
2o4bo3b4o$o2bo4b3obob2o$2bo3bo4bobo$2o2bo3b4o$2o2b3o3b2o2b2o$2obo2b3ob
ob3o$2b2o2b3o3b3o$o2b4o3bo$3ob2o4bo$3obo5bo4bo!

because of the range of the neighbourhood. when apgsearch tries to separate objects it will separate these far away but when one get removed the other cells might get affected even though they are more than two cells apart, and apgsearch gets confused. Just my guess.

[hotdogPi]

I was trying to update the wiki on the oscillator page. This p856 beats the previous loop for SKOP, but I can't get an apgcode. (The only reason 856 is mentioned at all is because there's a different p856 that's historical.)

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x = 120, y = 127, rule = B3/S23
4b2o8b2o$4b2o8bo$15bo$4bo9b2o$3b2o8bo$b2o2bo3b2o2b3o$bobo5b2o5bo$bo13b
2o3$2o8b2o$2o3b2o3bobo$5b2o3bo4$4b2o$3bobo$3bo$2b2o88$116b2o$116bo$
114bobo$114b2o4$113b2o$113b2o3b2o$118b2o3$103b2o13bo$103bo5b2o5bobo$
104b3o2b2o3bo2b2o$106bo8b2o$104b2o9bo$104bo$105bo8b2o$104b2o8b2o!

"Pattern does not become periodic within computational budget."

[confocaloid]

I think it is this: link to Catagolue (found using this script posted by Ian07; biggiemac-script.py failed on this pattern).

I was trying to update the wiki on the oscillator page. This p856 beats the previous loop for SKOP, but I can't get an apgcode. (The only reason 856 is mentioned at all is because there's a different p856 that's historical.)

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x = 120, y = 127, rule = B3/S23
4b2o8b2o$4b2o8bo$15bo$4bo9b2o$3b2o8bo$b2o2bo3b2o2b3o$bobo5b2o5bo$bo13b
2o3$2o8b2o$2o3b2o3bobo$5b2o3bo4$4b2o$3bobo$3bo$2b2o88$116b2o$116bo$
114bobo$114b2o4$113b2o$113b2o3b2o$118b2o3$103b2o13bo$103bo5b2o5bobo$
104b3o2b2o3bo2b2o$106bo8b2o$104b2o9bo$104bo$105bo8b2o$104b2o8b2o!

"Pattern does not become periodic within computational budget."

[carsoncheng]

It seems like that Catagolue's synthesis update process is timing out. Apparently, that is because I submitted large amounts of syntheses of the 4-glider database to Catagolue before realizing the possibility that I can simply make a pull request to Shinjuku:

Here is the list of pipelines for Catagolue's update process; The most recent ones are timed out.
https://gitlab.com/apgoucher/catagolue/-/pipelines

Are there any ways to get rid of this issue so that normal syntheses can be accepted again? I suggest putting a limit to the nonmagical box that no more than 100 syntheses can be submitted at once, or lower the upper size limits of RLEs submitted to the box.

Edit: The readsynth queue has just been cleared by calcyman. The box should be working now.