Thread for your unsure discoveries

[dvgrn]

Is this H to 2G known ?
As it is just a construction of 2 conduits (H to P and P to 2G) with a welded catalyst, I think it is already known ...

I don't know if it is known, but it is connectable to the syringe, yielding a glider splitter...
Also connectable to the speed tunnel, yielding a faster (but bigger) alternative to the syringe-based splitter...

All of this is very well known. The composite H-to-G was listed as "#16" in a list by Stephen Silver back in 1998, and the pieces have been in the various Elementary Conduits Collections ever since then.

@Tawal, if you have questions like this about H-to-G converters, you can run the Python script in the first post of the H-to-G collection thread to find out what the systematic name of the H-to-G is.
In this case it's an "NE25". Then look in the "25" row in the RLE code block. If it's not there, it might be new -- but in this case it is there.

-- However, now I can't figure out if there's a bug in the timing-finder part of the script. That H-to-G iss labeled as "NE25T239" in the collection, which seems correct -- but the script is currently insisting on calling it "NE25T141". Does anyone see what's going wrong there?

EDIT: The script seems to be right. I've updated the RLE in the H-to-G thread's first post.

[Tawal]

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@Tawal, if you have questions like this about H-to-G converters, you can run the Python script in the first post of the H-to-G collection thread to find out what the systematic name of the H-to-G is.
In this case it's an "NE25". Then look in the "25" row in the RLE code block. If it's not there, it might be new -- but in this case it is there.

-- However, now I can't figure out if there's a bug in the timing-finder part of the script. That H-to-G iss labeled as "NE25T239" in the collection, which seems correct -- but the script is currently insisting on calling it "NE25T141". Does anyone see what's going wrong there?

Thanks a lot for your advices

But I can't run python script in my Golly.
I use Golly 3.3 and Python 3 on Debian Linux.
I will ask for that on the right topic

[confocaloid]

At least one of two NE25 converters in H-to-G-04Jul2022.rle is labeled incorrectly. On the left, the output glider is delayed by 19 ticks. If the right one is correct, then the left one is NE25T141.

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x = 134, y = 77, rule = LifeHistory
83.D3.D.5D2.3D2.5D.5D3.D4.3D3.3D$83.2D2.D.D5.D3.D.D7.D4.2D3.D3.D.D3.D
$83.D.D.D.D9.D.D7.D5.D7.D5.D$83.D2.2D.3D6.D3.3D4.D5.D6.D5.D$83.D3.D.D
7.D7.D3.D5.D5.D5.D$83.D3.D.D6.D4.D3.D3.D5.D4.D5.D$83.D3.D.5D.5D2.3D4.
D4.3D2.5D.5D4$83.D3.D.5D.5D2.3D2.5D2.3D4.D$83.2D2.D.D5.D5.D3.D3.D3.D
3.D2.2D$9.D3.D.5D2.3D2.5D.5D2.3D3.3D3.3D28.D.D.D.D5.D9.D3.D3.D3.D3.D$
9.2D2.D.D5.D3.D.D7.D3.D3.D.D3.D.D3.D27.D2.2D.3D4.3D4.2D4.D4.3D4.D$9.D
.D.D.D9.D.D7.D7.D5.D.D3.D27.D3.D.D9.D5.D3.D3.D3.D3.D$9.D2.2D.3D6.D3.
3D4.D6.D4.2D3.4D27.D3.D.D5.D3.D.D3.D3.D3.D3.D3.D$9.D3.D.D7.D7.D3.D5.D
7.D5.D27.D3.D.5D2.3D3.3D4.D4.3D3.3D$9.D3.D.D6.D4.D3.D3.D4.D4.D3.D5.D$
9.D3.D.5D.5D2.3D4.D3.5D2.3D3.3D$63.4B$62.4B$61.4B$60.4B26.2A3.2A$59.
4B27.A5.A$52.2A4.4B25.2A.A5.A.2A$51.B2AB2.4B25.A.A.2A3.2A.A.A$52.2B2.
4B25.A2.B2.BA.AB2.B2.A$51.2B2.4B26.7AB.B7A$25.2A9.B6.2B5.4B.4B30.3B.B
.3B$26.A8.3B4.6B.11B27.3AB.3B.B3A$26.A.AB5.3B3.20B25.A.BA3BA3BAB.A$
21.2A4.2AB4.5B2.21B24.2A3.BABAB3.2A$13.A6.B2AB5.3B.31B27.BABAB$13.3A
5.3B5.36B.B24.2BA2B$16.A3.B.B6.37B2A23.2B.2B$15.2A2.6B4.35B.B2A21.B.
5B$15.10B2.36B3.B20.9B30.4B$7.2A8.46B24.8B2A28.4B$8.A8.44B25.2A6BA2BA
26.4B$8.A.AB6.43B25.2AB.5B2AB25.4B$9.2AB.3B2.41B28.B2.8B24.4B$11.48B
31.8B3.2B18.4B$11.48B32.12B17.4B$12.46B33.14B14.4B$11.47B32.16B12.4B$
9.42B.5B32.18B10.4B$7.19B3.17B8.3B30.21B8.4B$7.2BC15B5.10B3.B10.2B31.
2BC19B6.4B$6.3BCBC4B.7B7.8B47.3BCBC19B3.5B$7.2B3C4B2.6B7.7B49.2B3C20B
.7B$6.5BC4B3.6B6.2A53.5BC29B2.B$5.10B6.4B7.A52.10B.25B.B2A$4.4B12.B2A
2B4.3A52.4B4.2B3.26B2A$4.3B14.2A.B2A2.A53.4B10.24B.2B$2.4B18.BA.A.A
52.4B12.23B$2.2A23.A.2A51.2A14.24B$3.A23.A55.A16.23B$3A23.2A52.3A17.
24B9.B$A79.A19.23B9.2B$99.25B7.3B$99.24B7.4B$100.23B6.4B$100.25B3.4B$
102.29B$104.8B2.16B$105.7B3.14B$106.5B5.13B$108.2B7.12B$116.12B$112.
15B$111.16B$111.15B$111.14B$109.2AB.10B$108.A.AB2.7B$108.A6.6B$107.2A
9.2B!

If I remember right, there was a Spartan replacement for the big catalyst on the right, posted recently somewhere.
Edit: here it is:

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x = 54, y = 46, rule = LifeHistory
12.2A$11.B2AB5.2A$12.3B5.A$13.B3.BA.A$9.7B.B2A$8.10B$8.7B2AB$8.6BA2BA
$6.2AB.5B2AB$5.A.AB.8B$5.A4.8B3.2B18.B$4.2A5.12B17.2B$11.14B14.3B$10.
16B12.4B$9.18B10.4B$7.21B8.4B$7.2BC19B6.4B$6.3BCBC19B3.5B$7.2B3C20B.
7B$6.5BC29B2.B$5.10B.25B.B2A$4.4B4.2B3.26B2A$3.4B10.24B.2B$2.4B12.23B
$2.2A14.24B$3.A16.23B$3A17.24B9.B$A19.23B9.2B$19.25B7.3B$19.24B7.4B$
20.23B6.4B$20.25B3.4B$22.29B$24.8B2.16B$25.7B3.14B$26.5B5.13B$28.2B7.
12B$36.12B$32.15B$31.16B$31.15B$31.14B$29.2AB.10B$28.A.AB2.7B$28.A6.
6B$27.2A9.2B!

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x = 41, y = 26, rule = LifeHistory
22.A$21.A.A$8.2A12.A$8.2A6.2A$16.A3.5A$14.A.A3.A4.A$14.2A7.A2.A$23.2A
.A2.A$11.2A7.A5.A.A.A$10.A2.A5.A.A4.A2.A$2.2A7.2A6.A2.A2.2A10.2A$.A.A
16.2A15.A$.A36.A$2A22.2A7.2A2.2A$25.A7.A.A$25.A.A7.A.4A$26.2A6.2A.A2.
A2$5.A$5.A.A$5.3A$7.A3$.2A$.2A!

Anything built from this will have pretty terrible repeat time, but the potential output clearance is incredible.

The top catalyst looks to be a spartan variant of a catalyst used in Herschel conduits.

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x = 17, y = 29, rule = LifeHistory
6.2A.2A$7.A.A$2.2A.A5.A.2A$.A.A.2A3.2A.A.A$A6.A.A6.A$7A3.7A2$2.3A7.3A
$.A2.A3.A3.A2.A$.2A4.A.A4.2A$7.A.A$8.A4$10.2A$.2A6.A2.A$.2A7.2A8$4.C$
4.C.C$4.3C$6.C!

Nice find!

[Tawal]

At least one of two NE25 converters in H-to-G-04Jul2022.rle is labeled incorrectly. On the left, the output glider is delayed by 19 ticks. If the right one is correct, then the left one is NE25T141.
...

Yes, you're alright.
Since I can run python scripts, I get this result by applying dvgrn's advice :

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x = 88, y = 106, rule = LifeHistory
8$27.D3.D.D3.D2.3D3.3D2.5D2.3D3.3D2.5D$27.2D2.D.D3.D.D3.D.D7.D3.D3.D.
D3.D.D$27.D.D.D.D3.D5.D.D7.D7.D5.D.D$27.D2.2D.D.D.D3.2D2.4D4.D5.2D5.D
3.3D$27.D3.D.D.D.D5.D.D3.D3.D7.D3.D7.D$27.D3.D.2D.2D.D3.D.D3.D3.D3.D
3.D2.D4.D3.D$27.D3.D.D3.D2.3D3.3D4.D4.3D2.5D2.3D4$27.D3.D.5D2.3D2.5D.
5D3.D6.D4.D$27.2D2.D.D5.D3.D.D7.D4.2D5.2D3.2D$27.D.D.D.D9.D.D7.D5.D4.
D.D4.D$27.D2.2D.3D6.D3.3D4.D5.D3.D2.D4.D$27.D3.D.D7.D7.D3.D5.D3.5D3.D
$27.D3.D.D6.D4.D3.D3.D5.D6.D4.D$27.D3.D.5D.5D2.3D4.D4.3D5.D3.3D4$28.
3D2.D3.D8.3D2.5D2.3D4.D$27.D3.D.D3.D7.D3.D3.D3.D3.D2.2D$27.D5.D3.D11.
D3.D7.D3.D$28.3D2.D.D.D.5D4.D4.D6.D4.D$31.D.D.D.D9.D5.D5.D5.D$27.D3.D
.2D.2D8.D6.D4.D6.D$28.3D2.D3.D7.5D3.D3.5D2.3D21$29.4B50.4B$30.4B48.4B
$31.4B46.4B$32.4B44.4B$33.4B42.4B$34.4B40.4B$35.4B38.4B$36.4B36.4B$
37.4B28.2A4.4B$38.4B26.B2AB2.4B$39.4B26.2B2.4B$40.4B24.2B2.4B$41.4B8.
B6.2B5.4B.4B$42.4B6.3B4.6B.11B$43.4B5.3B3.20B$38.2A4.4B3.5B2.21B$30.A
6.B2AB4.4B.31B$30.3A5.3B5.36B.B$33.A3.B.B6.37B2A$32.2A2.6B4.35B.B2A$
32.10B2.36B3.B$24.2A8.46B$25.A8.44B$25.A.AB6.43B$26.2AB.3B2.41B$28.
48B$28.48B$29.46B$28.47B$26.42B.5B$24.19B3.17B8.3B$24.2BC15B5.10B3.B
10.2B$23.3BCBC4B.7B7.8B$24.2B3C4B2.6B7.7B$23.5BC4B3.6B6.2A$22.10B6.4B
7.A$21.4B12.B2A2B4.3A$20.4B14.2A.B2A2.A$19.4B18.BA.A.A$18.4B22.A.A.2A
$17.4B23.A.A.2A$16.4B25.A$16.3B$16.2B$16.B!

[HerscheltheHerschel]

Probably uncompleteable copperhead-like partial:

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x = 16, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
4b2o$2bo4bo$2bo$bo9b3o$4obo4b2obo$2o3bob2obo2bobo$2o3bob2obo2bobo$4obo
4b2obo$bo9b3o$2bo$2bo4bo$4b2o!

[dvgrn]

Probably uncompleteable copperhead-like partial:

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x = 16, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
4b2o$2bo4bo$2bo$bo9b3o$4obo4b2obo$2o3bob2obo2bobo$2o3bob2obo2bobo$4obo
4b2obo$bo9b3o$2bo$2bo4bo$4b2o!

Which direction is this supposed to be going in, and what is the period supposed to be?

I just spent some time trying to find something that repeats. But I seem to be missing whatever is supposed to be there. It's pretty much always better to post a few more details in cases like this, than to leave them out.

[HerscheltheHerschel]

Probably uncompleteable copperhead-like partial:

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x = 16, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
4b2o$2bo4bo$2bo$bo9b3o$4obo4b2obo$2o3bob2obo2bobo$2o3bob2obo2bobo$4obo
4b2obo$bo9b3o$2bo$2bo4bo$4b2o!

Which direction is this supposed to be going in, and what is the period supposed to be?

I just spent some time trying to find something that repeats. But I seem to be missing whatever is supposed to be there. It's pretty much always better to post a few more details in cases like this, than to leave them out.

probably c/15 or something close, i'm terrible at calculating speeds
edit:
sideshooting switch engine quadrio (is that even a word?) based on an ark by yujh:

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x = 97, y = 92, rule = B3/S23
78b2o$77bo2bo11bo$80bo3bo6b3o$77b5o3bo5b3o$70bo8bo6bo7b3o$69bo5bo4bo3b
2o$69bo5bo4b2o$69b2o4bo2$71b3o$72b2o$73bo$72bobo$73bo$73bo4$71b2o$70bo
2bo$70b2obo$72b4o$76bo$72b2o3bo$72bo3bo$73b3o41$9b2o$8bo2bo11bo$11bo3b
o6b3o$8b5o3bo5b3o$bo8bo6bo7b3o$o5bo4bo3b2o$o5bo4b2o$2o4bo2$2b3o$3b2o$
4bo$3bobo$4bo$4bo4$2b2o$bo2bo$b2obo$3b4o$7bo$3b2o3bo$3bo3bo$4b3o!

[b-engine]

probably c/15 or something close, i'm terrible at calculating speeds

It's c/10, and it's supposed to travels towards the right.

[confocaloid]

Probably uncompleteable copperhead-like partial:

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x = 16, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
4b2o$2bo4bo$2bo$bo9b3o$4obo4b2obo$2o3bob2obo2bobo$2o3bob2obo2bobo$4obo
4b2obo$bo9b3o$2bo$2bo4bo$4b2o!

It's c/10, and it's supposed to travels towards the right.

I'm not sure whether that pattern is a spaceship partial. If one assumes that it is a partial c/10 moving to the right, then comparing T = 0 and T = 10 shows that only 10 out of 50 alive cells happen to reappear (the white state-3 cells):

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x = 16, y = 32, rule = LifeHistory
4.2A$2.A4.A$2.A$.C9.3A$C3A.A4.2A.A$2C3.A.AC.A2.A.A$2C3.A.AC.A2.A.A$C
3A.A4.2A.A$.C9.3A$2.A$2.A4.A$4.2A9$10.A$4.2A3.A.A$2.A3.4A3.2A$2.C5.A
2.A$.C8.A$A2CA.A3.CA2.A$A2CA.A3.CA2.A$.C8.A$2.C5.A2.A$2.A3.4A3.2A$4.
2A3.A.A$10.A!

[Quantum-mechanics]

New metacell? (Parts)

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x = 209, y = 506, rule = B3/S23
120bo$119bobo$112b2o3b2o3bo14b2o$112b2o3b2o3bo13bobo$117b2o3bo12b3o4b
2ob3o$119bobo12b3o4bo2b4o$120bo6bo7b3o4b2o$125b2o9bobo$126b2o9b2o6$118b
obo$118b2o$119bo5$112bo$110b2o$111b2o2$116b2o$115b2o$117bo5$124bo$123b
2o$123bobo2$97bo$95b2o$96b2o34bo7bo$131b4o5bobo$126b2o2bo2b2o8b2o4b2o
$126b2o2b2o11b2o4b2o$123b2o10bo7b2o$115b2o5b3o10bo4bobo$115b2o6b2o10b
o4bo$126b2o$126b2o$39bo$39b3o$42bo4bo$41b2o4bo$46b3o33bo$37b2o10bo8bo
2bo4bo2bo10b2o$38bo9b2o6b3o2b6o2b3o9b2o$37bo10bob2o6bo2bo4bo2bo$37b2o
10b2o$39bo10b2ob2o$37b2o2b2ob3obobo$36bo2b3ob3o4b2o$36b3o5bo10b2o$39b
2obo6bo5bobo$36b2o8bo2bo7bo$37bobobo4bobo8b2o$37bo3bo$38b2o2$42b2o19b
3o$43bo17b5obo$40b3o17bo$40bo23bo$60bo3bo$62bo$47b3o$48bo$48bo$47b3o23b
o$71b3o$47b3o15bo4bo$47b3o14b2o4b2o$64bobo$47b3o24b2o$48bo24bo2bo$48b
o6b2o16b2obo$47b3o6bo19b2o$56bobo14b2o$57b2o13bo2b3o$49bo21bob2o2bo$72b
o2b2o$74bo$46bo6bo9b2o10b2o$45b2o6b2o4bo3b3o10bo$44b3o6b3o8bo10bo$45b
2o6b2o20b2o$46bo6bo$62b2o7b2o$63bobo5bo$65bo6b3o$74bo51$120bo$119bobo
$112b2o3b2o3bo14b2o$112b2o3b2o3bo13bobo$117b2o3bo12b3o4b2ob3o$119bobo
12b3o4bo2b4o$120bo6bo7b3o4b2o$125b2o9bobo$126b2o9b2o6$118bobo$118b2o$
119bo5$112bo$110b2o$110b3o$108b3o$107bobo6b2o$107bo7b2o$106b2o9bo5$124b
o$123b2o$123bobo4$132bo7bo$131b4o5bobo$126b2o2bo2b2o8b2o4b2o$126b2o2b
2o11b2o4b2o$123b2o10bo7b2o$115b2o5b3o10bo4bobo$115b2o6b2o10bo4bo$126b
2o$126b2o$39bo$39b3o$42bo4bo$41b2o4bo$46b3o$37b2o10bo8bo2bo4bo2bo$38b
o9b2o6b3o2b6o2b3o$37bo10bob2o6bo2bo4bo2bo$37b2o10b2o$39bo10b2ob2o$37b
2o2b2ob3obobo$36bo2b3ob3o4b2o$36b3o5bo10b2o$39b2obo6bo5bobo$36b2o8bo2b
o7bo$37bobobo4bobo8b2o$37bo3bo$38b2o2$42b2o19b3o$43bo17b5obo$40b3o17b
o$40bo23bo$60bo3bo$62bo$47b3o$48bo$48bo$47b3o23bo$71b3o$47b3o15bo4bo$
47b3o14b2o4b2o$64bobo$47b3o24b2o$48bo24bo2bo$48bo6b2o16b2obo$47b3o6bo
19b2o$56bobo14b2o$57b2o13bo2b3o$49bo21bob2o2bo$72bo2b2o$74bo$46bo6bo9b
2o10b2o$45b2o6b2o4bo3b3o10bo$44b3o6b3o8bo10bo$45b2o6b2o20b2o$46bo6bo$
62b2o7b2o$63bobo5bo$65bo6b3o$74bo52$169b2obo$163bob2obobob3o$163b2obo
bobo4bo$158b2o7bobobobobo$159bo9bobob2o4b2o$159bobo6bobo8bo$160b2o7bo
7bobo$177b2o2$202bo$184b2o6b2o7bobo$177bo5bo2bo4bo2bo5bo3bo$164b3o11b
o3b6o2b6o4bo3bo$159bobo2bo11b3o4bo2bo4bo2bo5bo3bo$160b2o2bobo17b2o6b2o
6bo3bo$160b2o38bo3bo$200bo3bo$201bobo$202bo$170b2o21bo$170bo22b3o$171b
3o8b2o12bo$163b3o7bo8bobo10b2o$162bo3bo15bo$162bo3bo$163b3o2$198b3o$197b
o3bo$196bo5bo$163b3o30bo5bo$162bo3bo29bo5bo$162bo3bo30bo3bo$163b3o32b
3o$188b2o$187bobo7bo7b2o$187bo8bobo6bobo$186b2o4b2obobo9bo$179b2o10bo
bobobobo7b2o$179b3o9bo4bobobob2o$179b3o10b3obobob2obo$178bob2o12bob2o
$178b3o$179bo25$179b2o$179b3o$138bo40b3o$136b3o39bob2o$135bo42b3o$135b
2o42bo2$132b2o$113b2o17b2o$113b2o2$154b2o$137b2o15b2o$137bobo$113b3o21b
o$113b3o8b3o$112bo3bo9bo$125bo$111b2o3b2o2$144b3o6b3o$144bo7bo3bo$117b
2o26bo5bo5bo$116bobo32b2obob2o$118bo2$151bo$118bo32b2o2$150b2obo$150b
2o2bo24b2o$151b4o24b3o$115b3o61b3o$114bo3bo59bob2o$113bo5bo29b2o3b2o22b
3o$113bo5bo32bo26bo$116bo32bo5bo$114bo3bo31b2ob2o$115b3o33bobo$116bo35b
o$152bo2$115b2o$86bo28b2o$84bobo$76b2o4b2o18b2o47b2o$76b2o4b2o17bo3bo
45b2o$82b2o16bo5bo3b2o$84bobo4bo8bo3bob2o2b2o$86bo3bo9bo5bo$90b3o2bo5b
o3bo$102b2o5$83bo$83bobo$83b2o2$179b2o$179b3o$179b3o$178bob2o$75b2o101b
3o$75b2o102bo2$72b2o$71bobo$71bo8b3o$70b2o8bo$81bo5$88b2o$88bobo$88bo
3$102bobo$97b2o3bo2bo$90b2o2b2ob3o5b2o6b2o$89bobo3bo3bo3bo3b2o4b2o$88b
o8bobo5b2o$79b2o7bo2bo6b2o2bo2bo$79b2o7bo13bobo$89bobo$90b2o$3bo175b2o
$3b3o7bo165b3o$6bo7b2o163b3o$5b2o6b3o162bob2o$23b2o6b2o145b3o$b2o19bo
2bo4bo2bo145bo$2bo9b3o7bo2bo4bo2bo$bo10bo9bo2bo4bo2bo$b2o9bobo8b2o6b2o
$3bo$b2o2bo$o2b2obo$3o2bo13b2o157b3o$3b2o14bobo155bo3bo$2o19bo155b2ob
2o$bob2o16b2o154b2ob2o$bo2bo$2b2o$13bo170b3o$6b2o3bobo157b3o10b2obo$7b
o4b2o27b2o28b2o28b2o28b2o28b2o7bob2o13bo$4b3o31b3ob2o24b3ob2o24b3ob2o
24b3ob2o24b3ob2o6bo13b2obo$4bo33b5o25b5o25b5o25b5o25b5o7bob2o10b3o$39b
3o27b3o27b3o27b3o27b3o9b3o$12bo8b3o$11b3o7bo$10bobobo7bo153b2ob2o$10b
obobo161b2ob2o$11b3o23bo138bo3bo$12bo22b3o139b3o$34bo$34b2o$12bo$11b3o
24b2o$10bobobo22bo2bo$10bobobo4b2o16b2obo$11b3o6bo19b2o$12bo7bobo14b2o
$21b2o6b3o4bo2b3o$28bo3bo2bob2o2bo$27bo5bo2bo2b2o$27bo5bo4bo$11b6o10b
o5bo5b2o$10bo6bo10bo3bo7bo$9bo8bo10b3o7bo$10bo6bo21b2o$11b6o$35b2o$35b
o$36b3o$38bo!

[HerscheltheHerschel]

New metacell? (Parts)

Code: Select all

x = 209, y = 506, rule = B3/S23
120bo$119bobo$112b2o3b2o3bo14b2o$112b2o3b2o3bo13bobo$117b2o3bo12b3o4b
2ob3o$119bobo12b3o4bo2b4o$120bo6bo7b3o4b2o$125b2o9bobo$126b2o9b2o6$118b
obo$118b2o$119bo5$112bo$110b2o$111b2o2$116b2o$115b2o$117bo5$124bo$123b
2o$123bobo2$97bo$95b2o$96b2o34bo7bo$131b4o5bobo$126b2o2bo2b2o8b2o4b2o
$126b2o2b2o11b2o4b2o$123b2o10bo7b2o$115b2o5b3o10bo4bobo$115b2o6b2o10b
o4bo$126b2o$126b2o$39bo$39b3o$42bo4bo$41b2o4bo$46b3o33bo$37b2o10bo8bo
2bo4bo2bo10b2o$38bo9b2o6b3o2b6o2b3o9b2o$37bo10bob2o6bo2bo4bo2bo$37b2o
10b2o$39bo10b2ob2o$37b2o2b2ob3obobo$36bo2b3ob3o4b2o$36b3o5bo10b2o$39b
2obo6bo5bobo$36b2o8bo2bo7bo$37bobobo4bobo8b2o$37bo3bo$38b2o2$42b2o19b
3o$43bo17b5obo$40b3o17bo$40bo23bo$60bo3bo$62bo$47b3o$48bo$48bo$47b3o23b
o$71b3o$47b3o15bo4bo$47b3o14b2o4b2o$64bobo$47b3o24b2o$48bo24bo2bo$48b
o6b2o16b2obo$47b3o6bo19b2o$56bobo14b2o$57b2o13bo2b3o$49bo21bob2o2bo$72b
o2b2o$74bo$46bo6bo9b2o10b2o$45b2o6b2o4bo3b3o10bo$44b3o6b3o8bo10bo$45b
2o6b2o20b2o$46bo6bo$62b2o7b2o$63bobo5bo$65bo6b3o$74bo51$120bo$119bobo
$112b2o3b2o3bo14b2o$112b2o3b2o3bo13bobo$117b2o3bo12b3o4b2ob3o$119bobo
12b3o4bo2b4o$120bo6bo7b3o4b2o$125b2o9bobo$126b2o9b2o6$118bobo$118b2o$
119bo5$112bo$110b2o$110b3o$108b3o$107bobo6b2o$107bo7b2o$106b2o9bo5$124b
o$123b2o$123bobo4$132bo7bo$131b4o5bobo$126b2o2bo2b2o8b2o4b2o$126b2o2b
2o11b2o4b2o$123b2o10bo7b2o$115b2o5b3o10bo4bobo$115b2o6b2o10bo4bo$126b
2o$126b2o$39bo$39b3o$42bo4bo$41b2o4bo$46b3o$37b2o10bo8bo2bo4bo2bo$38b
o9b2o6b3o2b6o2b3o$37bo10bob2o6bo2bo4bo2bo$37b2o10b2o$39bo10b2ob2o$37b
2o2b2ob3obobo$36bo2b3ob3o4b2o$36b3o5bo10b2o$39b2obo6bo5bobo$36b2o8bo2b
o7bo$37bobobo4bobo8b2o$37bo3bo$38b2o2$42b2o19b3o$43bo17b5obo$40b3o17b
o$40bo23bo$60bo3bo$62bo$47b3o$48bo$48bo$47b3o23bo$71b3o$47b3o15bo4bo$
47b3o14b2o4b2o$64bobo$47b3o24b2o$48bo24bo2bo$48bo6b2o16b2obo$47b3o6bo
19b2o$56bobo14b2o$57b2o13bo2b3o$49bo21bob2o2bo$72bo2b2o$74bo$46bo6bo9b
2o10b2o$45b2o6b2o4bo3b3o10bo$44b3o6b3o8bo10bo$45b2o6b2o20b2o$46bo6bo$
62b2o7b2o$63bobo5bo$65bo6b3o$74bo52$169b2obo$163bob2obobob3o$163b2obo
bobo4bo$158b2o7bobobobobo$159bo9bobob2o4b2o$159bobo6bobo8bo$160b2o7bo
7bobo$177b2o2$202bo$184b2o6b2o7bobo$177bo5bo2bo4bo2bo5bo3bo$164b3o11b
o3b6o2b6o4bo3bo$159bobo2bo11b3o4bo2bo4bo2bo5bo3bo$160b2o2bobo17b2o6b2o
6bo3bo$160b2o38bo3bo$200bo3bo$201bobo$202bo$170b2o21bo$170bo22b3o$171b
3o8b2o12bo$163b3o7bo8bobo10b2o$162bo3bo15bo$162bo3bo$163b3o2$198b3o$197b
o3bo$196bo5bo$163b3o30bo5bo$162bo3bo29bo5bo$162bo3bo30bo3bo$163b3o32b
3o$188b2o$187bobo7bo7b2o$187bo8bobo6bobo$186b2o4b2obobo9bo$179b2o10bo
bobobobo7b2o$179b3o9bo4bobobob2o$179b3o10b3obobob2obo$178bob2o12bob2o
$178b3o$179bo25$179b2o$179b3o$138bo40b3o$136b3o39bob2o$135bo42b3o$135b
2o42bo2$132b2o$113b2o17b2o$113b2o2$154b2o$137b2o15b2o$137bobo$113b3o21b
o$113b3o8b3o$112bo3bo9bo$125bo$111b2o3b2o2$144b3o6b3o$144bo7bo3bo$117b
2o26bo5bo5bo$116bobo32b2obob2o$118bo2$151bo$118bo32b2o2$150b2obo$150b
2o2bo24b2o$151b4o24b3o$115b3o61b3o$114bo3bo59bob2o$113bo5bo29b2o3b2o22b
3o$113bo5bo32bo26bo$116bo32bo5bo$114bo3bo31b2ob2o$115b3o33bobo$116bo35b
o$152bo2$115b2o$86bo28b2o$84bobo$76b2o4b2o18b2o47b2o$76b2o4b2o17bo3bo
45b2o$82b2o16bo5bo3b2o$84bobo4bo8bo3bob2o2b2o$86bo3bo9bo5bo$90b3o2bo5b
o3bo$102b2o5$83bo$83bobo$83b2o2$179b2o$179b3o$179b3o$178bob2o$75b2o101b
3o$75b2o102bo2$72b2o$71bobo$71bo8b3o$70b2o8bo$81bo5$88b2o$88bobo$88bo
3$102bobo$97b2o3bo2bo$90b2o2b2ob3o5b2o6b2o$89bobo3bo3bo3bo3b2o4b2o$88b
o8bobo5b2o$79b2o7bo2bo6b2o2bo2bo$79b2o7bo13bobo$89bobo$90b2o$3bo175b2o
$3b3o7bo165b3o$6bo7b2o163b3o$5b2o6b3o162bob2o$23b2o6b2o145b3o$b2o19bo
2bo4bo2bo145bo$2bo9b3o7bo2bo4bo2bo$bo10bo9bo2bo4bo2bo$b2o9bobo8b2o6b2o
$3bo$b2o2bo$o2b2obo$3o2bo13b2o157b3o$3b2o14bobo155bo3bo$2o19bo155b2ob
2o$bob2o16b2o154b2ob2o$bo2bo$2b2o$13bo170b3o$6b2o3bobo157b3o10b2obo$7b
o4b2o27b2o28b2o28b2o28b2o28b2o7bob2o13bo$4b3o31b3ob2o24b3ob2o24b3ob2o
24b3ob2o24b3ob2o6bo13b2obo$4bo33b5o25b5o25b5o25b5o25b5o7bob2o10b3o$39b
3o27b3o27b3o27b3o27b3o9b3o$12bo8b3o$11b3o7bo$10bobobo7bo153b2ob2o$10b
obobo161b2ob2o$11b3o23bo138bo3bo$12bo22b3o139b3o$34bo$34b2o$12bo$11b3o
24b2o$10bobobo22bo2bo$10bobobo4b2o16b2obo$11b3o6bo19b2o$12bo7bobo14b2o
$21b2o6b3o4bo2b3o$28bo3bo2bob2o2bo$27bo5bo2bo2b2o$27bo5bo4bo$11b6o10b
o5bo5b2o$10bo6bo10bo3bo7bo$9bo8bo10b3o7bo$10bo6bo21b2o$11b6o$35b2o$35b
o$36b3o$38bo!

What rule does it emulate? How do the metacells communicate? How do you create/destroy the glider eater?

[Quantum-mechanics]

New metacell? (Parts)

Code: Select all

x = 209, y = 506, rule = B3/S23
120bo$119bobo$112b2o3b2o3bo14b2o$112b2o3b2o3bo13bobo$117b2o3bo12b3o4b
2ob3o$119bobo12b3o4bo2b4o$120bo6bo7b3o4b2o$125b2o9bobo$126b2o9b2o6$118b
obo$118b2o$119bo5$112bo$110b2o$111b2o2$116b2o$115b2o$117bo5$124bo$123b
2o$123bobo2$97bo$95b2o$96b2o34bo7bo$131b4o5bobo$126b2o2bo2b2o8b2o4b2o
$126b2o2b2o11b2o4b2o$123b2o10bo7b2o$115b2o5b3o10bo4bobo$115b2o6b2o10b
o4bo$126b2o$126b2o$39bo$39b3o$42bo4bo$41b2o4bo$46b3o33bo$37b2o10bo8bo
2bo4bo2bo10b2o$38bo9b2o6b3o2b6o2b3o9b2o$37bo10bob2o6bo2bo4bo2bo$37b2o
10b2o$39bo10b2ob2o$37b2o2b2ob3obobo$36bo2b3ob3o4b2o$36b3o5bo10b2o$39b
2obo6bo5bobo$36b2o8bo2bo7bo$37bobobo4bobo8b2o$37bo3bo$38b2o2$42b2o19b
3o$43bo17b5obo$40b3o17bo$40bo23bo$60bo3bo$62bo$47b3o$48bo$48bo$47b3o23b
o$71b3o$47b3o15bo4bo$47b3o14b2o4b2o$64bobo$47b3o24b2o$48bo24bo2bo$48b
o6b2o16b2obo$47b3o6bo19b2o$56bobo14b2o$57b2o13bo2b3o$49bo21bob2o2bo$72b
o2b2o$74bo$46bo6bo9b2o10b2o$45b2o6b2o4bo3b3o10bo$44b3o6b3o8bo10bo$45b
2o6b2o20b2o$46bo6bo$62b2o7b2o$63bobo5bo$65bo6b3o$74bo51$120bo$119bobo
$112b2o3b2o3bo14b2o$112b2o3b2o3bo13bobo$117b2o3bo12b3o4b2ob3o$119bobo
12b3o4bo2b4o$120bo6bo7b3o4b2o$125b2o9bobo$126b2o9b2o6$118bobo$118b2o$
119bo5$112bo$110b2o$110b3o$108b3o$107bobo6b2o$107bo7b2o$106b2o9bo5$124b
o$123b2o$123bobo4$132bo7bo$131b4o5bobo$126b2o2bo2b2o8b2o4b2o$126b2o2b
2o11b2o4b2o$123b2o10bo7b2o$115b2o5b3o10bo4bobo$115b2o6b2o10bo4bo$126b
2o$126b2o$39bo$39b3o$42bo4bo$41b2o4bo$46b3o$37b2o10bo8bo2bo4bo2bo$38b
o9b2o6b3o2b6o2b3o$37bo10bob2o6bo2bo4bo2bo$37b2o10b2o$39bo10b2ob2o$37b
2o2b2ob3obobo$36bo2b3ob3o4b2o$36b3o5bo10b2o$39b2obo6bo5bobo$36b2o8bo2b
o7bo$37bobobo4bobo8b2o$37bo3bo$38b2o2$42b2o19b3o$43bo17b5obo$40b3o17b
o$40bo23bo$60bo3bo$62bo$47b3o$48bo$48bo$47b3o23bo$71b3o$47b3o15bo4bo$
47b3o14b2o4b2o$64bobo$47b3o24b2o$48bo24bo2bo$48bo6b2o16b2obo$47b3o6bo
19b2o$56bobo14b2o$57b2o13bo2b3o$49bo21bob2o2bo$72bo2b2o$74bo$46bo6bo9b
2o10b2o$45b2o6b2o4bo3b3o10bo$44b3o6b3o8bo10bo$45b2o6b2o20b2o$46bo6bo$
62b2o7b2o$63bobo5bo$65bo6b3o$74bo52$169b2obo$163bob2obobob3o$163b2obo
bobo4bo$158b2o7bobobobobo$159bo9bobob2o4b2o$159bobo6bobo8bo$160b2o7bo
7bobo$177b2o2$202bo$184b2o6b2o7bobo$177bo5bo2bo4bo2bo5bo3bo$164b3o11b
o3b6o2b6o4bo3bo$159bobo2bo11b3o4bo2bo4bo2bo5bo3bo$160b2o2bobo17b2o6b2o
6bo3bo$160b2o38bo3bo$200bo3bo$201bobo$202bo$170b2o21bo$170bo22b3o$171b
3o8b2o12bo$163b3o7bo8bobo10b2o$162bo3bo15bo$162bo3bo$163b3o2$198b3o$197b
o3bo$196bo5bo$163b3o30bo5bo$162bo3bo29bo5bo$162bo3bo30bo3bo$163b3o32b
3o$188b2o$187bobo7bo7b2o$187bo8bobo6bobo$186b2o4b2obobo9bo$179b2o10bo
bobobobo7b2o$179b3o9bo4bobobob2o$179b3o10b3obobob2obo$178bob2o12bob2o
$178b3o$179bo25$179b2o$179b3o$138bo40b3o$136b3o39bob2o$135bo42b3o$135b
2o42bo2$132b2o$113b2o17b2o$113b2o2$154b2o$137b2o15b2o$137bobo$113b3o21b
o$113b3o8b3o$112bo3bo9bo$125bo$111b2o3b2o2$144b3o6b3o$144bo7bo3bo$117b
2o26bo5bo5bo$116bobo32b2obob2o$118bo2$151bo$118bo32b2o2$150b2obo$150b
2o2bo24b2o$151b4o24b3o$115b3o61b3o$114bo3bo59bob2o$113bo5bo29b2o3b2o22b
3o$113bo5bo32bo26bo$116bo32bo5bo$114bo3bo31b2ob2o$115b3o33bobo$116bo35b
o$152bo2$115b2o$86bo28b2o$84bobo$76b2o4b2o18b2o47b2o$76b2o4b2o17bo3bo
45b2o$82b2o16bo5bo3b2o$84bobo4bo8bo3bob2o2b2o$86bo3bo9bo5bo$90b3o2bo5b
o3bo$102b2o5$83bo$83bobo$83b2o2$179b2o$179b3o$179b3o$178bob2o$75b2o101b
3o$75b2o102bo2$72b2o$71bobo$71bo8b3o$70b2o8bo$81bo5$88b2o$88bobo$88bo
3$102bobo$97b2o3bo2bo$90b2o2b2ob3o5b2o6b2o$89bobo3bo3bo3bo3b2o4b2o$88b
o8bobo5b2o$79b2o7bo2bo6b2o2bo2bo$79b2o7bo13bobo$89bobo$90b2o$3bo175b2o
$3b3o7bo165b3o$6bo7b2o163b3o$5b2o6b3o162bob2o$23b2o6b2o145b3o$b2o19bo
2bo4bo2bo145bo$2bo9b3o7bo2bo4bo2bo$bo10bo9bo2bo4bo2bo$b2o9bobo8b2o6b2o
$3bo$b2o2bo$o2b2obo$3o2bo13b2o157b3o$3b2o14bobo155bo3bo$2o19bo155b2ob
2o$bob2o16b2o154b2ob2o$bo2bo$2b2o$13bo170b3o$6b2o3bobo157b3o10b2obo$7b
o4b2o27b2o28b2o28b2o28b2o28b2o7bob2o13bo$4b3o31b3ob2o24b3ob2o24b3ob2o
24b3ob2o24b3ob2o6bo13b2obo$4bo33b5o25b5o25b5o25b5o25b5o7bob2o10b3o$39b
3o27b3o27b3o27b3o27b3o9b3o$12bo8b3o$11b3o7bo$10bobobo7bo153b2ob2o$10b
obobo161b2ob2o$11b3o23bo138bo3bo$12bo22b3o139b3o$34bo$34b2o$12bo$11b3o
24b2o$10bobobo22bo2bo$10bobobo4b2o16b2obo$11b3o6bo19b2o$12bo7bobo14b2o
$21b2o6b3o4bo2b3o$28bo3bo2bob2o2bo$27bo5bo2bo2b2o$27bo5bo4bo$11b6o10b
o5bo5b2o$10bo6bo10bo3bo7bo$9bo8bo10b3o7bo$10bo6bo21b2o$11b6o$35b2o$35b
o$36b3o$38bo!

What rule does it emulate? How do the metacells communicate? How do you create/destroy the glider eater?

These just parts, glider eater is useless, it can use inline inverter.

[dvgrn]

These just parts, glider eater is useless, it can use inline inverter.

It's certainly possible to build a pattern with a period and size similar to the p46N-based OTCA metapixel, using modern P30 technology -- or even very old p30 technology, like by borrowing from PM 2Ring's Collatz sequence generator from way back when post numbers were in the low four digits. There are various useful p60 mechanisms hiding in there.

Probably the new metacell could be made to fit inside 1024x1024 instead of 2048x2048, though it would have a relatively smaller proportion of space devoted to the metapixel area -- there will always be a tradeoff there. Unfortunately period 30 or 60 is no better than period 46 as a base for metapixel circuitry, in terms of how well Golly can handle simulations; a power of two period would work a lot better and need a lot less memory for large metapixel areas.

[HerscheltheHerschel]

Glider warp:

Code: Select all

x = 8, y = 4, rule = B3/S23
o$b2obo$2o2b4o$7bo!

Absorber:

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x = 17, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
2o6bo6b2o$2o6bo6b2o$8bo6$b3o9b3o$bo2bo7bo2bo$bo13bo$bo13bo$2bobo2b3o2b
obo$6bo3bo$6bo3bo$6b5o$6bo3bo!

This creates an interesting partial SL at gen. 250:

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x = 10, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
6bo$5bo$5b3o2$o$b2o$2o$6b2o$6bo$7b3o$9bo!

[AgustinUwO]

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#C [[ ZOOM 16 GRID COLOR GRID 192 192 192 GRIDMAJOR 10 COLOR GRIDMAJOR 128 128 128 COLOR DEADRAMP 255 220 192 COLOR ALIVE 0 0 0 COLOR DEAD 192 220 255 COLOR BACKGROUND 255 255 255 GPS 10 WIDTH 937 HEIGHT 600 ]]
x = 1, y = 1, rule = B3/S23
bo$1oboo$1boo$1bbbbbbbo$1bbbbbbooo$1bbbbbbooo!

Stabilizes in period 8703

[wirehead]

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#C [[ ZOOM 16 GRID COLOR GRID 192 192 192 GRIDMAJOR 10 COLOR GRIDMAJOR 128 128 128 COLOR DEADRAMP 255 220 192 COLOR ALIVE 0 0 0 COLOR DEAD 192 220 255 COLOR BACKGROUND 255 255 255 GPS 10 WIDTH 937 HEIGHT 600 ]]
x = 1, y = 1, rule = B3/S23
bo$1oboo$1boo$1bbbbbbbo$1bbbbbbooo$1bbbbbbooo!

Stabilizes in period 8703

Hate to burst your bubble, but most, if not all, honeyfarm-traffic light collisions like the one you posted, are uninteresting. For a pattern like this that makes a big mess (i.e. a methuselah) to be considered interesting, it has to start out at 7 or fewer cells (all of which have been enumerated), have a small bounding box, or last for a ridiculously longer time than the one you posted (on the order of 50,000+ generations).

[get_Snacked]

could this partial be solved, and maybe even turned into a high-clearance double-sided sparker?

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x = 10, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
2b6o$bo6bo2$obo4bobo$4b2o!

note that if this is solved, the lightweight, middleweight, and overweight+ versions are solvable as well, making it as extensible as the emulators.
EDIT: another:

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x = 6, y = 4, rule = B3/S23
2b2o$bo2bo2$ob2obo!

..., although it doesn't seem like it'll be a useful sparker unless used to deplete a line of four in a way that the block and hook-with-tail can't... which actually exists!

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x = 33, y = 4, rule = B3/S23
2o2b2o12b2o2b2o3b2o2b2o$2b2o16b2o7b2o2$2b2o15b2o6bobo!

[Haycat2009]

it has to start out at 7 or fewer cells

Not true, actually.

[confocaloid]

it has to start out at 7 or fewer cells

Not true, actually.

Care to elaborate? Otherwise seven is as good limit as any other nearby integer, and the post you incompletely quoted included other possibilities how a methuselah might be interesting ("have a small bounding box, or last for a ridiculously longer time than the one you posted (on the order of 50,000+ generations).")

[qqd]

Snark64 can act as a replacement catalyst for the beehive push catalyst in case the beehive turns into a honey farm in the way shown in L122. There also exists a periodic variant that outputs a glider in a different direction. Both are shown here:

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x = 61, y = 27, rule = B3/S23
14bo$13bobo33b2o$13bob3o30bo2bo$10b2obo4bo28bobobo$10bobobobobo28bo2bo
4bo$12bobob2o4b2o22bo6b3o$11bobo8bo24bobo2bo$12bo7bobo29b2o$20b2o2$5bo
39bo$3bo2bo2b2o32bo2bo2b2o$3bo2bobo2bo31bo2bobo2bo$3bo2bo2b2o32bo2bo2b
2o$5bo39bo5$17b2o38b2o$4b2o10bobo25b2o10bobo$2obobo10b2o22b2obobo10b2o
$ob2obobo32bob2obobo$6b2o3b2o3b4o26b2o3b2o3b4o$11b2o4bo2bo30b2o4bo2bo$
15bo3b2o34bo3b2o$15b2o38b2o!

[b-engine]

Phi sparking spaceship:

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x = 17, y = 21, rule = B3/S23
bo2bo$o$o3bo$4o4$14bo$2b3o10bo$2bo6bo4b2o$2bobo$3b2o3b2o3$bo2bo$o$o3b
o9bo$4o8bo3bo$11bo$11bo4bo$11b5o!

[johamwit]

Phi sparking spaceship:
...

NOT a phi.

There are zillions of c/2 spaceships derived from the old - circa 1970 - "puffer 2", and perhaps some notable patterns still undiscovered ... Good hunt !

[b-engine]

Phi sparking spaceship:
...

NOT a phi.

There are zillions of c/2 spaceships derived from the old - circa 1970 - "puffer 2", and perhaps some notable patterns still undiscovered ... Good hunt !

I mean it produces a phi spark.

[Haycat2009]

it has to start out at 7 or fewer cells

Not true, actually.

Care to elaborate? Otherwise seven is as good limit as any other nearby integer, and the post you incompletely quoted included other possibilities how a methuselah might be interesting ("have a small bounding box, or last for a ridiculously longer time than the one you posted (on the order of 50,000+ generations).")

Well, 7 cells and 50000 gens is impossible. Acorn is the best we have got.

[confocaloid]

Not true, actually.

Care to elaborate? Otherwise seven is as good limit as any other nearby integer, and the post you incompletely quoted included other possibilities how a methuselah might be interesting ("have a small bounding box, or last for a ridiculously longer time than the one you posted (on the order of 50,000+ generations).")

Well, 7 cells and 50000 gens is impossible. Acorn is the best we have got.

Why do you think it should be "and"? In the post you replied to, it was "or" rather than "and".
There was no claim of possibiity of "7 cells and 50000 gens" to begin with.

Arguably all "very low population" patterns are interesting (some for being long-lived, some for other reasons).
Likewise, small bounding box patterns are more likely to be interesting than those with larger bounding box.
Likewise, patterns with very high lifespan are likely to be interesting, either because they are already interesting methuselahs, or because an interesting methuselah can be obtained by reducing bounding box and/or population and/or MCPS without big effect on the lifespan.

For a pattern like this that makes a big mess (i.e. a methuselah) to be considered interesting, it has to start out at 7 or fewer cells (all of which have been enumerated), have a small bounding box, or last for a ridiculously longer time than the one you posted (on the order of 50,000+ generations).