Thread for your speculative elementary conduits

[C28]

U to lom with a terrible output placement

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x = 30, y = 27, rule = B3/S23
2bo$2b3o$5bo$4b2o13b3o$19b3o$18bobo$18b2o8$b2o3bo$bo3bobo$2bo3b2o15b2o
$3bo8bo9bo2bo$bob5o3bobo9b2o$obo4bo3b2o15b2o$obo2bo20bo2bo$bo3b2o19b3o
$23bo$23b4o$26bo$25bo$25b2o!

[Anivec]

Here's a failed B-to-G conduit:

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x = 26, y = 39, rule = B3/S23
21bo$21b3o$24bo$23b2o7$24bo$23bobo$23b2o13$o$bo$b2o$2o2b2o13b2o$o3b2o
13b2o4$17b2o$17bo$b2o15b3o$bo18bo$2bo$b2o!

[confocaloid]

Here's a failed B-to-G conduit:

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x = 26, y = 39, rule = B3/S23
21bo$21b3o$24bo$23b2o7$24bo$23bobo$23b2o13$o$bo$b2o$2o2b2o13b2o$o3b2o
13b2o4$17b2o$17bo$b2o15b3o$bo18bo$2bo$b2o!

Can be solved with a known I-to-G:

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x = 48, y = 45, rule = LifeHistory
2$25.A$25.3A$5.A22.A$4.A.A20.2A$4.A.A14.2B4.4B$3.2A.2A12.5B4.4B$3.A2.
B9.10B2.6B$4.AB2AB2.15B2.7B$2.A.A.2AB.16B2.8B$2.2A4.18B.9B$8.20BE8B$
8.19BEBE7B$9.18B2E9B$11.27B$13.19B3.4B$12.20B4.4B$12.20B5.4B$10.B2.
14B11.4B$9.2AB.13B13.4B$9.2A16B13.4B$10.2B.5B3D6B4.2A8.4B$13.5BD2BD3B
.B2A.A.A9.4B$15.7BD2B.B2ABA12.4B$16.3BDBD2B4.B2.A12.4B$17.3BD4B2.2A.
2A13.3B$4.C13.6B4.A.A15.2B$5.C15.B6.A.A16.B$5.2C22.A$4.2C2.2A13.2A$4.
C3.2A13.2A4$21.2A$21.A$5.2A15.3A$5.A18.A$6.A$5.2A!

[Jormungant]

Alternative bait block, for potential syringes:

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x = 52, y = 40, rule = LifeHistory
3$31.3B3.5B$31.C2B3.2BD2B$31.BCB3.2BDBD$31.B2C3.2B3D$27.2D2.2CB3.4BD$
27.2D2.C10B$31.9B12$10.2A8B6.8B$10.A2.AB.4B6.8B$11.3A18B$14.15B$7.2A.
A.2AB2.5B2A4B$7.A.2A.A4.4B.2A.5B$12.A5.2B8.2A$12.A.2A.2B2A7.A$11.2A.A
.2BA.BA7.3A$15.A2.B2A.A8.A$16.A5.A$14.A.6A$13.A.A3.A$13.A2.A$14.2A!

[Tawal]

Alternative bait block, for potential syringes:

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rle removed - see above

It's at least a G-to-Beehive switcher :

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x = 60, y = 56, rule = LifeHistory
56.E3B$55.BEBE$54.2B2E$53.4B21$32.E3B$16.B14.BEBE$15.2BD12.2B2E$13.3B
DBDB9.4B$13.3BDBDB8.4B$12.5BD2B7.4B$12.8B6.4B$12.8B5.4B$11.10B3.4B$
11.10B2.4B$11.10B.4B$10.17B$9.19B$9.20B$8.22B$7.22B$7.22B$3.2A22B$3.A
2.AB.18B$4.3A18B$7.15B$2A.A.2AB2.5B2A4B$A.2A.A4.4B.2A.5B$5.A5.2B8.2A$
5.A.2A.2B2A7.A$4.2A.A.2BA.BA7.3A$8.A2.B2A.A8.A$9.A5.A$7.A.6A$6.A.A3.A
$6.A2.A$7.2A!

[Anivec]

Failed H-to-B:

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x = 28, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
14b2o$14bo$15bo$12b4o$12bo$15b3o$15bo2bo$17bobo$18bo8$o$obo$3o$2bo$20b
2o$20b2o5$9b2o$10bo5b2o$7b3o5bobo8b2o$7bo7bo9bobo$14b2o9b2o!

And a related one:

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x = 23, y = 25, rule = B3/S23
14b2o$14bo$15bo$12b4o$12bo$15b3o$15bo2bo$17bobo$18bo7$21bo$o19bobo$ob
o17bobo$3o18bo$2bo3$7bo$6bobo$7bo!

[confocaloid]

It's at least a G-to-Beehive switcher :

The base reaction and the factory were already known: G-to-X_(November_2023)#Beehive_factory.
I think the idea was to combine that reaction with the natural evolution of B-heptomino, in such a way that the first natural glider of the resulting Herschel is used up to move the block left by the B-heptomino. If that moved block can then be hit by a spaceship arriving from some direction, and if the resulting explosion can be catalysed into the B-heptomino in the correct location, that would make a spaceship-to-Herschel converter.

[Jormungant]

indeed, and the bait could be consumed by any signal, could be part of a conduit too, but yes, I was mostly thinking about the near-misses, like the following:

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x = 54, y = 33, rule = LifeHistory
$17.3B$17.4B$13.A4.4B$13.3A3.4B$16.A3.4B$15.2A4.4B$14.2B6.4B10.2A$.2A
9.5B6.4B2.2B4.B2A2B$2.A7.7B7.10B2.4B$2.A.2A5.7B2.B2.11B.B.4B$3.A2.A4.
19BD9B$4.2AB3.20BDBD7B$5.25B3D8B3.2A$6.13B2C11BD2B2A4B.B2.A$7.7B3C2B
2C13BABA5B3A$7.9BC7B.B6.BABA2B2.2BA$8.7BC7B10.BA2B6.2A$8.15B21.A$9.
13B22.A.A$9.15B21.2A$8.10B4.2A.A$7.9B6.2AB3A$6.9B8.B4.A$5.4B.B.B9.2A.
3A$4.4B3.3B9.A.A$4.3B3.B2AB9.A.A$11.2A11.A!

[Anivec]

Here's a messy, obnoxious H-to-C found with Catforce:

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x = 24, y = 22, rule = LifeHistory
C$C.C$3C$2.C$22.2A$22.2A3$9.2A$9.2A9$12.2D$10.2D.D$10.D$10.3D!

[confocaloid]

Here's a messy, obnoxious H-to-C found with Catforce:

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x = 24, y = 22, rule = LifeHistory
C$C.C$3C$2.C$22.2A$22.2A3$9.2A$9.2A9$12.2D$10.2D.D$10.D$10.3D!

Unfortunately the Galumpher based 180 degree 3 lane reflector doesn't work to reflect the first natural glider of the input Herschel, due to wrong parity:

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x = 209, y = 142, rule = LifeHistory
2.A$A.A$.2A82$146.2A$146.2A2$125.2A$126.A$126.A.A$127.2A7$127.C$127.C
.C$127.3C$129.C$149.2C$149.2C$142.B$142.2B$136.2C4.3B30.2A$136.2C4.4B
8.B14.2A5.A$142.5B6.3B13.A.A.3A$142.6B5.3B15.A.A$140.9B3.5B13.B2AB$
127.2A11.10B.7B11.4B$113.D14.A8.9B.17B3.5B$113.D.D12.A.AB3.11B.17B3.
7B$113.2D14.2AB.13B.28B$131.44B$131.8B2D36B5.7B.B$131.6B2DBD36B5.13B.
B$131.6BD31BD10BD21B$118.2A7.A.2AB.4B3D29B2D10BD21BD3.2A$117.A.A5.3AB
2AB.17B3D15B2D11B2D18B3DB2.2A$118.A5.A4.B4.18BD12B2.13B2D2B2E15BDBD$
125.3A.2A2.17B3D12B3.12BD3B2E15BD$127.A.A4.31B4.B2.19B3.2B2.2B$129.A
4.31B7.2B3.B2.10B$129.2A4.29B9.AB6.6B$127.2A2.A.14B.10B3.B10.A.A7.3B$
125.A2.A.A.A13B3.8B15.2A8.B$125.2A.A.BA2B.9B5.7B25.2A$128.A2.2B2.9B5.
2A30.A$128.2A.B4.8B6.A31.A$126.2A2.A.A4.7B3.3A31.2A$125.A2.A2.2A4.6B
4.A$126.2A10.4B$138.3B$138.2AB$137.A.AB$137.2AB$138.4B$140.2A$140.A$
141.3A$143.A!

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x = 152, y = 78, rule = LifeHistory
89.2A$89.2A2$68.2A$69.A$69.A.A$70.2A7$70.C$70.C.C$70.3C$72.C$92.2C$
92.2C$85.B$85.2B$79.2C4.3B30.2A$79.2C4.4B8.B14.2A5.A$85.5B6.3B13.A.A.
3A$85.6B5.3B15.A.A$83.9B3.5B13.B2AB$70.2A11.10B.7B11.4B$71.A8.9B.17B
3.5B$71.A.AB3.11B.17B3.7B$72.2AB.13B.28B$74.44B$74.8B2D36B5.7B.B$74.
6B2DBD36B5.13B.B$74.6BD31BD10BD21B$70.A.2AB.4B3D29B2D10BD21BD3.2A$68.
3AB2AB.17B3D15B2D11B2D18B3DB2.2A$67.A4.B4.18BD12B2.13B2D2B2E15BDBD$
68.3A.2A2.17B3D12B3.12BD3B2E15BD$70.A.A4.31B4.B2.19B3.2B2.2B$72.A4.
31B7.2B3.B2.10B$72.2A4.29B9.AB6.6B$70.2A2.A.14B.10B3.B10.A.A7.3B$68.A
2.A.A.A13B3.8B15.2A8.B$68.2A.A.BA2B.9B5.7B25.2A$17.2A4.2A46.A2.2B2.9B
5.2A30.A$17.2A4.2A46.2A.B4.8B6.A31.A$9.2A58.2A2.A.A4.7B3.3A31.2A$5.A
3.A.A56.A2.A2.2A4.6B4.A$4.A.A4.A17.2A38.2A10.4B$4.A.A4.2A15.A.A50.3B$
2.3A.2A21.A51.2AB$.A78.A.AB$2.3A.2A72.2AB$4.A.2A73.4B$83.2A$83.A$84.
3A$86.A$39.A$38.A.A$2A37.A$2A6$53.2A$37.2A14.2A$18.2A17.2A$18.2A4$21.
2A14.2A$21.2A14.A.A$39.A$39.2A!

[Tawal]

I don't recognize this starting in any conduits I know.
I also don't know the name of the output but I already see it in other posts as an intermediate signal.
So here's a H-to-?

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x = 29, y = 19, rule = LifeHistory
6.A$6.3A$9.A9.3D$8.2A3.B5.D2BD$8.8B2.D2B2D$10.8B2D2BDB$10.15B$9.16B$
7.18B$5.18B.B2A$5.2BE14B2.BA.A$4.3BEBE4B.6B6.A$5.2B3E4B2.B.5B4.2A$4.
5BE4B7.2A$3.10B8.A$2.4B16.3A$.BD2B19.A$2D2B$.2D!

[squareroot12621]

I don't recognize this starting in any conduits I know.
I also don't know the name of the output but I already see it in other posts as an intermediate signal.
So here's a H-to-?

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x = 29, y = 19, rule = LifeHistory
6.A$6.3A$9.A9.3D$8.2A3.B5.D2BD$8.8B2.D2B2D$10.8B2D2BDB$10.15B$9.16B$
7.18B$5.18B.B2A$5.2BE14B2.BA.A$4.3BEBE4B.6B6.A$5.2B3E4B2.B.5B4.2A$4.
5BE4B7.2A$3.10B8.A$2.4B16.3A$.BD2B19.A$2D2B$.2D!

1. This would be an H-to-ej9p, but...
2. The rightmost eater gets destroyed before the ej9p forms, so it isn't really a conduit.

[confocaloid]

I don't recognize this starting in any conduits I know. [...]

[...] This would be an H-to-ej9p, but... [...]

It appears in the Speed tunnel. Sometimes this active object is referred to either as "e9jp" (a temporary name after an encoding of the pattern that ignores the orientation) or "Jubjub active region" (due to appearance in the Jubjub reflector, which is in turn related to and discovered shortly after the Speed tunnel).

There are already several known conduits involving this intermediate active object. As an example, here is a known HF114H / F114:

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#C https://conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=163335#p163335
x = 44, y = 36, rule = LifeHistory
20.2A.2A$21.A.A$16.2A.A5.A.2A$15.A.A.2A3.2A.A.A$14.A2.B2.BA.AB2.B2.A$
14.7AB.B7A$18.3B.B.3B$16.3AB.3B.B3A$15.A.BA3BA3BAB.A$15.2A3.BABAB3.2A
$20.BABAB$8.A11.2BA2B.B$8.3A10.B.B.5B3.2B2.2B$11.A6.22BD$4.A5.2A5.23B
DBD$3.A.A4.4B3.4B3D5B2A9B3DB$3.A.A6.2B3.4BD2BD4B2A11BD$.3A.2A4.4B3.2B
D2B2D16B$A4.B5.4B3.2B2D2BD4B2.3B.B$.3AB2AB2.6B.10B$3.A.2AB.18B$7.20B
6.2A$7.18B.B2A5.A$9.16B.BA.A.3A$10.14B5.A.A$8.16B5.2A$6.18B$6.2BC15B
2.2A$5.3BCBC4B.10BA.A$6.2B3C4B2.4B2A2B3.A$5.5BC4B2.3BA2BAB3.2A$4.10B
3.4B2AB$3.4B12.2B.B$2.4B12.3B$2.3B13.B2AB$2.2B15.2A!

[Anivec]

Another failed conduit, into the pile of failed conduits it goes:

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x = 24, y = 14, rule = B3/S23
21b2o$o20b2o$obo$3o$2bo2$19b2o$19b2o$16bo$15bobo$15bobo2b2o$16bo3bo$21b
3o$23bo!

[Jormungant]

Another failed conduit, into the pile of failed conduits it goes:

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x = 24, y = 14, rule = B3/S23
21b2o$o20b2o$obo$3o$2bo2$19b2o$19b2o$16bo$15bobo$15bobo2b2o$16bo3bo$21b
3o$23bo!

Someone asked for a scrappy fix?

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x = 99, y = 79, rule = LifeHistory
4$43.A$42.A.A$42.A.A3.2A$41.2A.2A2.2A$42.B$41.2AB8A$41.2A.A2.A4.A$39.
4B6.BAB.A$38.3B8.B2A.A2.A$33.B2.5B6.A4B.A.A.A$32.10B4.ABAB3.A2.A$32.
10B4.A2BA2.2A$32.15B2A$31.16B$31.16B5.A$29.17B4.3A$26.AB.17B3.A$25.A.
A17B4.2A$24.A.2A11B2A5B18.C$24.A.3B2.7BA2BA4B16.3C$21.2A.A2.B3.7BA2BA
3B16.C$21.A.2A.A.A3.7B2A4B16.2C$25.A.2A4.14B15.B$25.A8.14B14.3B$24.2A
9.15B11.6B$37.14B.B7.10B$38.18B.14B3.2B$39.21BD3B2C12B$39.21B2D2B2C
12B$39.D21B2D15B$40.21BD16B$40.20BD17B$33.B5.18B5.13B.B$39.18B5.7B.B$
35.B4.16B$35.B2.18B$34.20B$33.21B$33.21B$34.21B$33.22B$31.24B$29.21B.
B2AB$29.2BC16B3.B2A$28.3BCBC14B$29.2B3C15B$28.5BC4B2.9B$27.10B4.7B2.B
$26.4B2.4B4.8B.B2A$25.4B2.4B6.9B2A$24.4B2.4B7.6BA3B$14.2A7.4B2.4B9.4B
ABA4B$8.A.2A.A.A6.4B2.4B12.2BABA2.2A$8.2A.A.A7.4B2.4B15.BA3.A$12.2AB
11.4B22.3A$12.2B11.4B25.A$13.2B9.4B$12.B2AB8.3B$13.2A2B7.2B$14.B.9B$
17.7B$17.2B2AB.3B$18.B2AB2.2A$18.4B2.A$18.3B4.3A$18.3B6.A$13.3B.B2AB$
13.3A2B2A$11.2BA3B.B$9.B.BABA2B$8.2AB2A2B$8.2AB.BAB$9.B!

[C28]

Another failed conduit, into the pile of failed conduits it goes:

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x = 24, y = 14, rule = B3/S23
21b2o$o20b2o$obo$3o$2bo2$19b2o$19b2o$16bo$15bobo$15bobo2b2o$16bo3bo$21b
3o$23bo!

if one can delete the highlighted cells at generation 131 (along with the leftover boat), we'd have a nice H to U-turner

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x = 31, y = 27, rule = LifeHistory
21.2D$20.D2.D$.2A18.2D2.3D$A2.A2.2A17.D.D$.2A2.A.A17.2D$3.2A$3.A$2A.A
2.A$A2.A.A.A$2.2A.2A3.D$9.D.D$9.2D2$28.2A$7.A20.2A$7.A.A$7.3A$9.A2$26.
2A$26.2A$23.A$22.A.A$22.A.A2.2A$23.A3.A$28.3A$30.A!

[confocaloid]

Another failed conduit, into the pile of failed conduits it goes: [...]

if one can delete the highlighted cells at generation 131 (along with the leftover boat), we'd have a nice H to U-turner

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x = 31, y = 27, rule = LifeHistory
21.2D$20.D2.D$.2A18.2D2.3D$A2.A2.2A17.D.D$.2A2.A.A17.2D$3.2A$3.A$2A.A
2.A$A2.A.A.A$2.2A.2A3.D$9.D.D$9.2D2$28.2A$7.A20.2A$7.A.A$7.3A$9.A2$26.
2A$26.2A$23.A$22.A.A$22.A.A2.2A$23.A3.A$28.3A$30.A!

longboat mover

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x = 35, y = 49, rule = LifeHistory
12.2A$12.A$10.A.A$10.2A5$16.2C$15.C.C$14.C.C$15.C8$33.2D$32.D.D$31.D.
D$32.D2$.2A$A2.A2.2A$.2A2.A.A$3.2A$3.A$2A.A2.A$A2.A.A.A$2.2A.2A3.D$9.
D.D$9.2D2$28.2A$7.A20.2A$7.A.A$7.3A$9.A2$26.2A$26.2A$23.A$22.A.A$22.A
.A2.2A$23.A3.A$28.3A$30.A!

[Tawal]

Almost some 180° Glider reflectors and one 90°.
Perhaps a use to hit some SL …

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x = 77, y = 53, rule = LifeHistory
12.A21.2A6.A29.A$4.2A5.A.A19.A2.A4.A.A20.A6.A.A$3.A2.A4.A.A19.A2.A4.A
.A19.A.A5.A.A$4.2A4.2A.2A19.2A4.2A.2A19.2A4.2A.2A$9.A6.A22.A6.A22.A6.
A$9.2A.2A.2A22.2A.2A.2A22.2A.2A.2A$13.A.A27.A.A27.A.A$9.4A2.A23.4A2.A
23.4A2.A$9.A3.2A24.A3.2A24.A3.2A$10.3A27.3A27.3A$3A9.A17.3A9.A17.3A9.
A$2.A9.A.A17.A9.A.A17.A9.A.A$.A11.2A16.A11.2A16.A11.2A28$12.A$3.2A6.A
.A$3.A.A5.A.A$4.A5.2A.2A$9.A6.A$9.2A.2A.2A$13.A.A$9.4A2.A$9.A3.2A$10.
3A$3A9.A$2.A9.A.A$.A11.2A!

[confocaloid]

Fast resettable 180-degree glider reflector... whose timing is identical to timing of the longboat one-time turner:

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x = 39, y = 30, rule = LifeHistory
38.A$36.3A$35.A$35.2A4$37.A$27.D8.2A$27.3D5.2A$27.D.D6.2A$29.D6$32.A$
24.2C5.A.A$2.2C19.C2.C4.A.A$2.C.C19.2C4.2A.2A$3.C.C23.A6.A$4.C24.2A.
2A.2A$33.A.A$29.4A2.A$29.A3.2A$30.3A$3A17.3A9.A$2.A19.A9.A.A$.A19.A
11.2A!

The same block-to-beehive transformation can be performed from two opposite sides, which might be useful in different situations:

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x = 22, y = 40, rule = LifeHistory
20.A$19.A.A$19.A.A$20.A$9.D$.2A6.D.D$2.2A5.3D$.2A8.D$.A2$16.2C$16.2C$
2.2A$3.A$3A$A5$16.2C$16.2C7$12.D$4.2A6.D.D$5.2A5.3D$4.2A8.D$4.A4$5.2A
$6.A$3.3A$3.A!

Almost some 180° Glider reflectors and one 90°.
Perhaps a use to hit some SL …

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x = 77, y = 53, rule = LifeHistory
12.A21.2A6.A29.A$4.2A5.A.A19.A2.A4.A.A20.A6.A.A$3.A2.A4.A.A19.A2.A4.A
.A19.A.A5.A.A$4.2A4.2A.2A19.2A4.2A.2A19.2A4.2A.2A$9.A6.A22.A6.A22.A6.
A$9.2A.2A.2A22.2A.2A.2A22.2A.2A.2A$13.A.A27.A.A27.A.A$9.4A2.A23.4A2.A
23.4A2.A$9.A3.2A24.A3.2A24.A3.2A$10.3A27.3A27.3A$3A9.A17.3A9.A17.3A9.
A$2.A9.A.A17.A9.A.A17.A9.A.A$.A11.2A16.A11.2A16.A11.2A28$12.A$3.2A6.A
.A$3.A.A5.A.A$4.A5.2A.2A$9.A6.A$9.2A.2A.2A$13.A.A$9.4A2.A$9.A3.2A$10.
3A$3A9.A$2.A9.A.A$.A11.2A!

[Entity Valkyrie 2]

Fast resettable 180-degree glider reflector... whose timing is identical to timing of the longboat one-time turner:

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x = 39, y = 30, rule = LifeHistory
38.A$36.3A$35.A$35.2A4$37.A$27.D8.2A$27.3D5.2A$27.D.D6.2A$29.D6$32.A$
24.2C5.A.A$2.2C19.C2.C4.A.A$2.C.C19.2C4.2A.2A$3.C.C23.A6.A$4.C24.2A.
2A.2A$33.A.A$29.4A2.A$29.A3.2A$30.3A$3A17.3A9.A$2.A19.A9.A.A$.A19.A
11.2A!

I knew that a Snark could reset a block into a beehive. Unfortunately, it doesn't fit:

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x = 29, y = 24, rule = StateInvestigator
11.A.A$12.2A11.A$12.A10.3A$22.A$22.2A3$4.A$3.A.A5.2A$3.A.A4.A2.A$2.2A
.2A4.2A$A6.A$2A.2A.2A11.2A$.A.A15.2A$.A2.4A4.2A$2.2A3.A3.2A$4.3A6.A
10.A$4.A10.E4.2A.A.A$2.A.A14.A.A.A.A$2.2A12.A2.A.A.A.A.2A$16.4A.2A2.A
2.A$20.A4.2A$18.A.A$18.2A!

By the way, the beehive can also be restored with an active region that uses one of these block replacement catalysts:

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x = 42, y = 75, rule = B3/S23
4bo30bo2$2b3o28b3o2$2bobo28bobo$3bo30bo$8bo17bo12bo$2b2o3bobo15bobo5b
2o3bobo$2b2o4bo16bobo5b2o4bo$24b2ob2o$22bo6bo$3b2o17b2ob2ob2o$3b2o18bo
bo$23bo2b4o$24b2o3bo$26b3o$26bo10b2o$24bobo9b2o$24b2o12bo10$2bo30bo2$
2b3o28b3o2$2bobo28bobo$3bo30bo$26bo$2b2o3b2o16bobo5b2o3b2o$2b2o4bo16bo
bo5b2o4bo$8bobo13b2ob2o10bobo$9b2o11bo6bo10b2o$3b2o17b2ob2ob2o$3b2o18b
obo$23bo2b4o$24b2o3bo$26b3o$26bo10b2o$24bobo9b2o$24b2o12bo10$2bo30bo2$
2ob2o26b2ob2o2$2bobo28bobo$3bo4b2o24bo4b2o$7bobo16bo11bobo$2b2o4bo16bo
bo5b2o4bo$2b2o21bobo5b2o$24b2ob2o$22bo6bo$3b2o17b2ob2ob2o$3b2o18bobo$
23bo2b4o$24b2o3bo$26b3o$26bo10b2o$24bobo9b2o$24b2o12bo!

EDIT: I just realized that this reflector has the same timing as a Jubjub:

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x = 59, y = 25, rule = B3/S23
19b2o$7bo5bob2obo2bo$7b3o3b2obob2obo$10bo10bobo13bo12bo$3b2o4b2o6b2obo
b2o12bobo5b2o3bobo$4bo12b2obo15bobo4bo2bo3bo$4bobo13bo14b2ob2o4b2o$5b
2o13b2o11bo6bo$33b2ob2ob2o$8b2o24bobo$7bo2bo23bo2b4o$8bobo24b2o3bo$9bo
27b3o$21b2o14bo$21bobo11bobo$7b2o14bo11b2o$2obobo2bo14b2o$ob2ob3o$4bo$
4bob2o$5bobo2$24b2o31b2o$23b2o31b2o$25bo32bo!

[Anivec]

Here's a collection of related Herschel to a well known, unnamed active region:

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x = 324, y = 41, rule = LifeHistory
83.A$82.A.A$83.A2$81.5A$80.A4.A$79.A2.A79.2A68.2A3.2A$76.A2.A.2A79.A.
A68.A2.A.A$2.2A7.2A62.A.A.A5.A78.3A65.A3.A2.2A.A$2.A7.A2.A62.A2.A4.A.
A73.4A3.A64.4A.A.A.2A$3.3A4.A.A66.2A2.A2.A73.A2.A2.2A67.A.A$5.A5.A72.
2A146.2A.A.2A$232.A.A9.A$243.A.A76.2A$244.A75.A2.A$320.3A2$320.3A$320.
A2.A$322.2A3$C74.C74.C74.C74.C$C.C72.C.C72.C.C72.C.C72.C.C$3C72.3C72.
3C72.3C72.3C$2.C74.C74.C74.C74.C5$4.A74.A74.A74.A74.A$3.A.A72.A.A72.A
.A72.A.A72.A.A$4.A74.A74.A74.A74.A6$13.2A73.2A73.2A73.2A73.2A$12.A2.A
71.A2.A71.A2.A71.A2.A71.A2.A$13.2A73.2A73.2A73.2A73.2A!

Would this go into a different thread?

[C28]

Here's a collection of related Herschel to a well known, unnamed active region:

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x = 324, y = 41, rule = LifeHistory
83.A$82.A.A$83.A2$81.5A$80.A4.A$79.A2.A79.2A68.2A3.2A$76.A2.A.2A79.A.
A68.A2.A.A$2.2A7.2A62.A.A.A5.A78.3A65.A3.A2.2A.A$2.A7.A2.A62.A2.A4.A.
A73.4A3.A64.4A.A.A.2A$3.3A4.A.A66.2A2.A2.A73.A2.A2.2A67.A.A$5.A5.A72.
2A146.2A.A.2A$232.A.A9.A$243.A.A76.2A$244.A75.A2.A$320.3A2$320.3A$320.
A2.A$322.2A3$C74.C74.C74.C74.C$C.C72.C.C72.C.C72.C.C72.C.C$3C72.3C72.
3C72.3C72.3C$2.C74.C74.C74.C74.C5$4.A74.A74.A74.A74.A$3.A.A72.A.A72.A
.A72.A.A72.A.A$4.A74.A74.A74.A74.A6$13.2A73.2A73.2A73.2A73.2A$12.A2.A
71.A2.A71.A2.A71.A2.A71.A2.A$13.2A73.2A73.2A73.2A73.2A!

Would this go into a different thread?

this almost works

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x = 31, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
b2o$o2bo2b2o$b2o2bobo$3b2o24b2o$3bo23bo2bo$2obo2bo20b3o$o2bobobo$2b2o
b2o20b3o$27bo2bo$29b2o3$7bo$7bobo$7b3o$9bo5$11bo$10bobo$11bo6$20b2o$19b
o2bo$20b2o!

might be able to reflect the glider back to clean up the blinker and block

[Tawal]

Fast resettable 180-degree glider reflector... whose timing is identical to timing of the longboat one-time turner:

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x = 39, y = 30, rule = LifeHistory
38.A$36.3A$35.A$35.2A4$37.A$27.D8.2A$27.3D5.2A$27.D.D6.2A$29.D6$32.A$
24.2C5.A.A$2.2C19.C2.C4.A.A$2.C.C19.2C4.2A.2A$3.C.C23.A6.A$4.C24.2A.
2A.2A$33.A.A$29.4A2.A$29.A3.2A$30.3A$3A17.3A9.A$2.A19.A9.A.A$.A19.A
11.2A!

…

In same way, this works with the Pond :

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x = 34, y = 46, rule = LifeHistory
25.B$14.A8.5B$14.3A6.6B$17.A4.2B3E2B$16.2A4.4BE2B$16.4B.4B3EB$18.11B$
9.A7.12B$9.3A5.12B$12.A4.11B$11.2A5.7B7.2A$11.5B2.8B6.A$13.4B.9B2.BA.
A$2A9.17B.B2A$.A7.21B$.A.AB4.22B$2.2AB.24B$4.2B2A22B2A$4.BA.A19B2.BA.
A$5.2A5.14B6.A$13.10B9.2A$14.8B$14.7B$15.6B$16.2CB5.A$11.2A2.C2BC4.A.
A$11.2A2.C2BC4.A.A$16.2C4.2A.2A$21.A6.A$21.2A.2A.2A$25.A.A$21.4A2.A$
21.A3.2A$22.3A$24.A$24.A.A$25.2A7$3.3E$5.E$4.E!

I don't mean to be polemical, but I don't really agree with your notion of "same timing".
Just as you can adjust the position of the Long Boat, you can adjust the timing …
It would be preferable to consider the moment of collision as the reference for timing.
And so I consider my OTT to be faster than the LongBoat.
For me, what the LongBoat and my OTTs have in common is that they return the Glider with the same parity and color.

[confocaloid]

[...] For me, what the LongBoat and my OTTs have in common is that they return the Glider with the same parity and color.

Although "the same parity and color" is in principle correct, saying that doesn't explain completely why one device can be substituted for another without affecting the timing of the glider.

There are several different properties, that all have something to do with relationship between the input glider and the output glider.

• For glider shifters and for 180-degree glider reflectors, the difference between the input lane and the output lane is a well-defined property (e.g. "3hd reflector", "same-lane reflector").
• Whether a glider reflector is colour-preserving or colour-changing, is completely determined by the configuration of the two (directed) glider lanes, the input lane and the output lane. In particular, all "same-lane" 180-degree glider reflectors in Life are necessarily colour-changing, regardless of their mechanism / clearance / timing.
• There are two possible values of the parity of a glider, which can be determined by the state of the middle cell of the 3-by-3 bounding box of the glider in an even-numbered generation. When a glider moves freely through empty space, its parity remains unchanged. The Snark glider reflector preserves parity; the Snark64 glider reflector changes parity.
• By moving a trombone slide (a 180-degree reflector) in the direction of movement of the input/output gliders, it is possible to adjust the timing of the output glider by multiples of 8 ticks. If two 180-degree reflectors with identical lane difference have the same timing (mod 8) then one can be replaced with another (assuming either of two fits in available space geometrically, of course).
  An interesting caveat regarding "same-lane" 180-degree glider reflectors, is that in this case the timing can be adjusted by multiples of 4 ticks (not just 8), because the device can be mirrored.

Here is a comparison between several known "same-lane" 180-degree glider-reflecting mechanisms. This shows why it makes sense to say that all those mechanisms indeed have the exact same timing (as far as "timing of a 180-degree glider reflector" is well-defined and measurable at all):

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#C [[ THEME Catagolue ]]
x = 224, y = 79, rule = B3/S23
44bo$44b3o$47bo$46b2o5$65bo$63b3o$53b3o6bo$53bo8b2o$12b2o38b3o$13bo$
11bo58bo$9b4o55b3o$8bo5b2o51bo$7bo2b4obo30b2o19b2o$8b2obo7bo27bo$9bo9b
3o25bobo$9bo12bo25b2o28b2o$7bobob2o8b2o55bo$7b2obobo63bobo$10bo13b2o
50b2o$10b2o11bobo22b2o22b2o$23b2o22bobo22bobo72b2o$47bo25b2o72bo$46b2o
100bo$110b2o33b4o2bo$98bo5bob2obo2bo31bo4b3o$98b3o3b2obob2obo30bobo2bo
$10bo44bo45bo10bobo29b2o3bo$10bobo41bobo10b2o25b2o4b2o6b2obob2o33b2o
50b2o$10b3o41bobo10b2o26bo12b2obo88b2o8bo$12bo40b2ob2o37bobo13bo97bobo
$51bo6bo37b2o13b2o96bobo$51b2ob2ob2o99b2o5bo42b2ob3o$52bobo44b2o57b2o
4bobo47bo$52bo2b4o39bo2bo62bobo41b2ob3o$2b2o49b2o3bo40bobo61b2ob3o39b
2obo$bobo51b3o42bo68bo$bo53bo56b2o49b2ob3o18b2o25b2o$2o51bobo37b2o17bo
bo31b2o15b2obo21bo26bo$53b2o38bo2bob2o14bo30bo2bo39bobo21b3o$94b3obobo
13b2o29bo2bo40b2o21bo$98bobo29bob2o12b2o$94b5ob3o25b3ob2o$94bo4bo3bo
23bo$97bobo2b2o24b3ob2o$97b2o31bobo36b2o$132bo4b2o30bo21b2o23b2o$132b
2o2bo2bo27bobo21b2o23b2o$129b2obo4bobo27b2o$129b2obo5bo11b2o34b2o$132b
ob2o14b2o34b2o$132bo2bo$133bo4bo$134b5o10b2o$150bo$136bo10b3o65b2o$
135bobo9bo6b2o59bobo$136bo16bobo61bo$153bo63b2o$152b2o7b2o$161b2o3$
203b2o$203bo$204b3o$206bo6$61b2o38b2o38b2o38b2o38b2o$61bobo37bobo37bob
o37bobo37bobo$61bo39bo39bo39bo39bo!

[...]
Just as you can adjust the position of the Long Boat, you can adjust the timing …
It would be preferable to consider the moment of collision as the reference for timing.
[...]

The "moment of collision" could be made well-defined, but it might not be very useful to know, in practice.

Indeed, you could measure how many ticks pass, between the first generation when an input glider interacts and the first generation when an output glider is already formed and will never interact again.

However, even if the resulting value is low, that does not necessarily mean usefulness. The glider might have to go very deep inside a convoluted contraption without interacting, then it interacts and very quickly an output glider is formed, and then the output glider will have to go back from the middle of the contraption to the outside world without interacting. The metric would be misleading in such cases.

On the other hand, geometry / clearance(s) of a device are nontrivial to measure, and cannot be usefully written down as a single integer number. (Unlike e.g. timing modulo 8.)

[C28]

Here's a collection of related Herschel to a well known, unnamed active region:

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x = 324, y = 41, rule = LifeHistory
83.A$82.A.A$83.A2$81.5A$80.A4.A$79.A2.A79.2A68.2A3.2A$76.A2.A.2A79.A.
A68.A2.A.A$2.2A7.2A62.A.A.A5.A78.3A65.A3.A2.2A.A$2.A7.A2.A62.A2.A4.A.
A73.4A3.A64.4A.A.A.2A$3.3A4.A.A66.2A2.A2.A73.A2.A2.2A67.A.A$5.A5.A72.
2A146.2A.A.2A$232.A.A9.A$243.A.A76.2A$244.A75.A2.A$320.3A2$320.3A$320.
A2.A$322.2A3$C74.C74.C74.C74.C$C.C72.C.C72.C.C72.C.C72.C.C$3C72.3C72.
3C72.3C72.3C$2.C74.C74.C74.C74.C5$4.A74.A74.A74.A74.A$3.A.A72.A.A72.A
.A72.A.A72.A.A$4.A74.A74.A74.A74.A6$13.2A73.2A73.2A73.2A73.2A$12.A2.A
71.A2.A71.A2.A71.A2.A71.A2.A$13.2A73.2A73.2A73.2A73.2A!

Would this go into a different thread?

this almost works

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x = 31, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
b2o$o2bo2b2o$b2o2bobo$3b2o24b2o$3bo23bo2bo$2obo2bo20b3o$o2bobobo$2b2o
b2o20b3o$27bo2bo$29b2o3$7bo$7bobo$7b3o$9bo5$11bo$10bobo$11bo6$20b2o$19b
o2bo$20b2o!

might be able to reflect the glider back to clean up the blinker and block

update: solved it with the p8 glider reflector

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x = 35, y = 55, rule = B3/S23
11b2o$6b3o2b2o$6bo13bo$5bobo10b3o$b2ob2o11bo$b2o3bo5b2o3b2o$12b2o2$24b
2o$6b2o16b2o$6b2o3$5b2o27bo$b2obobo25b3o$bob2obobo22bo$7b2o20bo2bo$29b
4o2$29b2o$30bo$29bo$29b2o2$b2o$o2bo2b2o$b2o2bobo$3b2o24b2o$3bo23bo2bo
$2obo2bo20b3o$o2bobobo$2b2ob2o20b3o$27bo2bo$29b2o3$7bo$7bobo$7b3o$9bo
5$11bo$10bobo$11bo6$20b2o$19bo2bo$20b2o!