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a new puffer

Post by kmadpar » February 28th, 2024, 7:27 am

it is a glider hitting a sir robin. it makes blocks

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#C [[ ZOOM 7 GRID COLOR GRID 192 192 192 COLOR DEADRAMP 255 220 192 COLOR ALIVE 0 0 0 COLOR ALIVERAMP 0 0 0 COLOR DEAD 192 220 255 COLOR BACKGROUND 255 255 255 GPS 10 WIDTH 937 HEIGHT 600 ]]
x = 69, y = 50, rule = B3/S23
19b2o$19b4o$19bob2o2$20bo$19b2o$19b3o$21bo$33b2o$33b2o7$36bo$35b2o$34b
o3bo$35b2o2bo$40bo$37bobo$38bo$38bo$38b2o$38b2o3$13bo10bo$12b5o5bob2o
11bo$11bo10bo3bo9bo$12b2o8b3obo9b2o$13b2o9b2o12bo$2o13bo21b3o$2o35b3o
7$8b2o$8b2o11b2o$19b2o2bo$24bo3bo$18bo5bo3bo$19bo2b2o3bobo$20b3o5bo30b
2o5bo$28bo30bobo4bobo$59bo6b2o!

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Re: a new puffer

Post by b-engine » February 28th, 2024, 7:33 am

kmadpar wrote:
February 28th, 2024, 7:27 am
it is a glider hitting a sir robin. it makes blocks
...
Welcome to the forums! I suppose that this should been said by a moderator instead, but let me take over the place first.

If you want to post a pattern, please use code tags or pattern tags:

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#C [[ ZOOM 7 GRID COLOR GRID 192 192 192 COLOR DEADRAMP 255 220 192 COLOR ALIVE 0 0 0 COLOR ALIVERAMP 0 0 0 COLOR DEAD 192 220 255 COLOR BACKGROUND 255 255 255 GPS 10 WIDTH 937 HEIGHT 600 ]]
x = 69, y = 50, rule = B3/S23
19b2o$19b4o$19bob2o2$20bo$19b2o$19b3o$21bo$33b2o$33b2o7$36bo$35b2o$34b
o3bo$35b2o2bo$40bo$37bobo$38bo$38bo$38b2o$38b2o3$13bo10bo$12b5o5bob2o
11bo$11bo10bo3bo9bo$12b2o8b3obo9b2o$13b2o9b2o12bo$2o13bo21b3o$2o35b3o
7$8b2o$8b2o11b2o$19b2o2bo$24bo3bo$18bo5bo3bo$19bo2b2o3bobo$20b3o5bo30b
2o5bo$28bo30bobo4bobo$59bo6b2o!

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#C [[ ZOOM 7 GRID COLOR GRID 192 192 192 COLOR DEADRAMP 255 220 192 COLOR ALIVE 0 0 0 COLOR ALIVERAMP 0 0 0 COLOR DEAD 192 220 255 COLOR BACKGROUND 255 255 255 GPS 10 WIDTH 937 HEIGHT 600 ]]
x = 69, y = 50, rule = B3/S23
19b2o$19b4o$19bob2o2$20bo$19b2o$19b3o$21bo$33b2o$33b2o7$36bo$35b2o$34b
o3bo$35b2o2bo$40bo$37bobo$38bo$38bo$38b2o$38b2o3$13bo10bo$12b5o5bob2o
11bo$11bo10bo3bo9bo$12b2o8b3obo9b2o$13b2o9b2o12bo$2o13bo21b3o$2o35b3o
7$8b2o$8b2o11b2o$19b2o2bo$24bo3bo$18bo5bo3bo$19bo2b2o3bobo$20b3o5bo30b
2o5bo$28bo30bobo4bobo$59bo6b2o!
The "Sir Robin" you said is actually 2-engine cordership, also the "new" puffer is actually just block laying switch engine. But nice manual find! (They do occur naturally, so don't get surprised because of it.)

EDIT:
Also, please don't make a new thread if you found something. Post them in an existing appropriate thread instead.
You may add something into your newest post by clicking the edit button (shown with pencil icon).

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Re: a new puffer

Post by confocaloid » February 28th, 2024, 5:31 pm

b-engine wrote:
February 28th, 2024, 7:33 am
[...]
The "Sir Robin" you said is actually 2-engine cordership, also the "new" puffer is actually just block laying switch engine. But nice manual find! (They do occur naturally, so don't get surprised because of it.)
[...]
To clarify: by "they", do you mean just the block-laying switch engine (which did occur in b3s23/C1), and not 2-engine Cordership or Sir Robin (neither of which is natural)?
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Re: a new puffer

Post by b-engine » February 28th, 2024, 5:57 pm

confocaloid wrote:
February 28th, 2024, 5:31 pm
To clarify: by "they", do you mean just the block-laying switch engine (which did occur in b3s23/C1), and not 2-engine Cordership or Sir Robin (neither of which is natural)?
I mean the BLSE and 2-engine Cordership (which had occurred naturally once). Sir Robin is found by combining partials,thus it's unlikely to occur from soups.

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Re: a new puffer

Post by confocaloid » February 28th, 2024, 6:00 pm

b-engine wrote:
February 28th, 2024, 5:57 pm
confocaloid wrote:
February 28th, 2024, 5:31 pm
To clarify: by "they", do you mean just the block-laying switch engine (which did occur in b3s23/C1), and not 2-engine Cordership or Sir Robin (neither of which is natural)?
I mean the BLSE and 2-engine Cordership (which had occurred naturally once). Sir Robin is found by combining partials,thus it's unlikely to occur from soups.
As far as I know, 2-engine Cordership never occurred in b3s23/C1:
https://catagolue.hatsya.com/object/xq9 ... 1032/b3s23
https://catagolue.hatsya.com/census/b3s23/C1/xq96
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Re: a new puffer

Post by hotdogPi » February 28th, 2024, 6:02 pm

2-engine Cordership is not yet natural. A 16×16 predecessor exists, but such predecessor hasn't occurred by random chance.
User:HotdogPi/My discoveries

Periods discovered:

All evens ≤128 except 52,58,78,82,92,94,98,104,118,122

5-15,㉕-㉛,㉟㊺,51,63,65,73,75
1㊳㊵㊹㊼㊽,54,56,72,74,80,90,92
217,240,300,486,576

Guns: 20,21,32,54,55,57,114,117,124,126
SKOPs: 32,74,76,102,196

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Re: a new puffer

Post by b-engine » February 28th, 2024, 6:08 pm

confocaloid wrote:
February 28th, 2024, 6:00 pm
As far as I know, 2-engine Cordership never occurred in b3s23/C1:
https://catagolue.hatsya.com/object/xq9 ... 1032/b3s23
https://catagolue.hatsya.com/census/b3s23/C1/xq96
This is the soup that produces 2-engine Cordership:

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x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
o2bob2o$o3b2ob2o2bob2o$bo2bo4bo3bobo$10b4o$2b2obo3bobobo$o4b4o3bob2o$
4b2o2b3o2bo$b2o2bo2bo6bo$4b2o2b2o3bobo$3o2b2o2b2o4bo$ob2ob2o2b2obo$o2b
obo4b2obo$3ob2ob2o4b3o$o2bob2o2bo3bobo$3o4bo3b2ob2o$b2obo2b4obo2bo!

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Re: a new puffer

Post by confocaloid » February 28th, 2024, 6:13 pm

b-engine wrote:
February 28th, 2024, 6:08 pm
This is the soup that produces 2-engine Cordership:
Please link to the source of the patterns, which in this case seems to be viewtopic.php?p=98533#p98533

This is not really a soup, because it was not generated randomly. It is a predecessor found by a search program using a different approach.
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Re: a new puffer

Post by hotcrystal0 » February 28th, 2024, 6:36 pm

kmadpar wrote:
February 28th, 2024, 7:27 am
it is a glider hitting a sir robin. it makes blocks #C [[ ZOOM 7 GRID COLOR GRID 192 192 192 COLOR DEADRAMP 255 220 192 COLOR ALIVE 0 0 0 COLOR ALIVERAMP 0 0 0 COLOR DEAD 192 220 255 COLOR BACKGROUND 255 255 255 GPS 10 WIDTH 937 HEIGHT 600 ]]
x = 69, y = 50, rule = B3/S23
19b2o$19b4o$19bob2o2$20bo$19b2o$19b3o$21bo$33b2o$33b2o7$36bo$35b2o$34b
o3bo$35b2o2bo$40bo$37bobo$38bo$38bo$38b2o$38b2o3$13bo10bo$12b5o5bob2o
11bo$11bo10bo3bo9bo$12b2o8b3obo9b2o$13b2o9b2o12bo$2o13bo21b3o$2o35b3o
7$8b2o$8b2o11b2o$19b2o2bo$24bo3bo$18bo5bo3bo$19bo2b2o3bobo$20b3o5bo30b
2o5bo$28bo30bobo4bobo$59bo6b2o!
Can you put your RLEs in [ code ] tags by pressing the </> button while highlighting your RLE?
Example:

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#C I literally typed this out by hand
x = 3, y = 3, rule = B3/S23
2o$b2o$2o!
wherever I go on the internet I bring with myself nothing but problems.

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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!

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Re: a new puffer

Post by confocaloid » February 28th, 2024, 6:50 pm

A much simpler way to post patterns is by clicking the "pattern" button, visible above the "post a reply" form. For example, this is the middleweight spaceship:

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x = 6, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
2bo$o3bo$5bo$o4bo$b5o!
Forum rules wrote:
March 18th, 2016, 8:52 pm
If you decide to share your discovery with the forums, please do not post an image of the pattern. Instead, post the RLE code of the pattern within "pattern" tags. The easiest way to obtain the RLE code of a pattern is to select the pattern in Golly and then copy it to your clipboard.
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Re: a new puffer

Post by otismo » September 14th, 2024, 9:12 pm

I added a p246 Glider Gun and a Glider-to-Herschel Converter

to the p100-H-track-puffer ( that came with Golly )

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x = 1408, y = 247, rule = B3/S23
813b5o$812bo4bo$817bo$812bo3bo$814bo9$147b5o$146bo4bo$151bo$146bo3bo$
148bo2$866b3o$865b5o$865b3ob2o$797bo70b2o$798bo$794bo4bo$797b3o$794b2o
4bo44bo63b2o$796bo3bo43b3o58b4ob2o6b2o$143bo652bo47bo2bo57b6o5b2ob2o$
144bo652b3o46b2o58b4o6b4o$142b3o702b5o15b2o36bo11b2o$849bobo15b2o8b3o
25bo$200b3o645bo37bo$144bo54b5o642bobo36bobo7bo9b2o7b3o$143bobo53b3ob
2o638bobobob2o5b2o27bobo10b2o2b2ob2o5bo3b2o$142b2ob2o55b2o639bo3bob2o
5b5o11b2o12bo7b2o2b3o2bob5o2bobo2b2o$142b2ob2o696b2obo11b2obo10b2o20b
2o8bo2b3obo5bo$141bo3bo711bo2b4o29b2o4bo8bo3bo2b2o$141bo2b3o710bo2b2ob
2o30bo3bo12bo$142b2o3bo95b2o650bob3o14bo$143b4o92b4ob2o6b2o603bo2b2o
34bob2o$145b2o49bo26b3obo11b6o5b2ob2o601bo3b2o34b3o19b2o$190b2o4bo25b
6o12b4o6b4o603bo2b2o35bo18b2ob2o$137bobobo19b2o26bo2bo3bo14b2o8bob2ob
2o11bo11b2o605b2o3b2o51b4o$136bo3bobo18b2o25b2ob2o9bo8b2o9bo16bo622bo
2bo51b2o$135bo3b2o2bo45bobo9bo661b2o$136bobo2bobo46bo10bobo19bobobob2o
bo6b2o7b3o$144bo57bo18b4o2bo4b2o2b2ob2o5bo3b2o691b2o$141bo2bo11b3ob3o
3b2o35b3o10b2o3b3obo7bo3bob5o2bobo2b2o556bo88b2o40b3ob2o$141bobo11b4ob
o2bo2b2o36bobo9b2o13b3o4bo2b3obo5bo555bobo63b5o18b2ob2o39b5o66b2o$142b
o11bobo39bobo5bobo26bo8bo3bo2b2o557b2o62bo4bo18b4o35b2o4b3o35b2o26b4ob
2o6b2o$163bo30b3o31bo3bo13bo630bo19b2o33b3ob2o40bo2bo25b6o5b2ob2o$156b
3o36b2o2b2o3b3o22bo2bo15bo434b5o184bo3bo55b5o35b2o5b2o27b4o6b4o$157b2o
2b2o32b2o7b2ob2o473bo4bo20b2o164bo58b3o13b2o17bo3b2o33bo11b2o$200bo3b
2o46b2o433bo19bo2bo39b6o193b2o8b3o6bo7bo16b2o3bo8bo$196bob2o4b2o44b2ob
2o420b5o2bo3bo21bobo38bo5bo5b4o201bo9bo17bo4b2o$148bo49b2o6bo43b4o420b
o4bo4bo24bo45bo4bo3bo174b2o25b3o30bobo5b2o7b3o$146bobo54bo2bo44b2o426b
o8bo55bo4bo4bo9bo174b2o24bo2bo9bo11b3ob2obo2b3ob2ob2o5bo3b2o$147b2o55b
obo254b5o208bo3bo8bobo19bo17b2o14b3o5b2o7bo2bo140b2o48b2o9b2o9b2o12bo
2bo4bo6bob5o2bobo2b2o$460bo4bo210bo10bobo5b2o10b2obo16b2o13b2o2b2o156b
2o48b2o22bo11b5o5b2o4bo2b3obo5bo$465bo62b6o172bob2o6b2o19b2o3b5o2bo8b
2o215bo19b2o3b2o8bo3bo2b2o282b3o$232b2o219b5o2bo3bo36b2o24bo5bo5b4o
151b2o12bo7b2o20b3o3bo5bo6b5o213bo22bo2bo12bo285b5o$207b5o18b2ob2o217b
o4bo4bo37bo2bo16bo12bo4bo3bo164bo32b2obo5bo7bo4bo153bobo57b2obo18b3o
15bo283b3ob2o62b4o$206bo4bo18b4o223bo36b2o5b2o16bo7bo4bo9bo139b2o22b2o
3bo9b2o9b2o6bobo14b3o2bo130b2o21b2o61b2o312b3o7b2o62b6o6b2o$211bo19b2o
219bo3bo14b2o9bo7bo3b2o23bo9b2o7bo2bo140b2o22b2o3bo3b3o3b2o9b2o7b2o2b
2obo9bo2b2o127b3ob2o21bo102b2o123b5o142b5o35b2o33b4ob2o4b4o$206bo3bo
243bo16b2o9bo6bobo6bo19b3o186bo7b3o29bobo9b2o129b5o123b2ob2o121bo4bo
18b2o122b3ob2o22b2o9bo2bo36b2o5b2ob2o$208bo273bo5bobo6bobo15b7o7bo178b
o6bo5bo169b3o124b4o127bo17bo2bo41b6o77b2o5bo14b2o13b2o46b2o$461b2o35b
2o14bo2bo3b3o4b2o8b2o170bo5b2o2bobo296b2o116b5o2bo3bo21b2o39bo5bo5b4o
75b2o12b2o2b3o9bo19b2o$461b2o24bobo2bo20bo3bo9bo9bo2bo92b5o70b2o2b2o2b
2o2bo415bo4bo4bo23b2o31b2o12bo4bo3bo75b2o8b3o2bo3b2o8b2o19b2o9bo$426b
2o48b2o9b2o2bo8b3o10b2ob2ob2o3bo3b5o4bo2bo91bo4bo69b2obob2o47b4o376bo
27b3o30b2o7bo4bo9bo64b2o25bo2b2o7bobo30bo2bo$426b2o48b2o14bo6b4o10b2o
4b2o8b4o3b2ob2o96bo69b4obo8bo2bo35bo3bo371bo3bo28b3o15b2o12bobob3o5b2o
7bo2bo94bo11bo8bobo19bo6b2o$498b2o2b2o11bo3b2ob2o8bo4b2o93bo3bo68bobo
2b2o9b2obo39bo198b2o35b2o136bo27b6o15b2o9b8o2bo131bo2bo26bo7b2o$439bo
59bob2o18bo112bo70bobo15bo36bo2bo195b4ob2o32b2ob2o164bo2bo5b2o19bobo3b
4obo12bo35b2o48b2o8b2o14b2o4bo4bo4b2ob3o2b2o4bo6bo2bo5b2o$439bobo58b3o
281bo174b6o33b4o166b2o5bobo21bobob2ob3o7bo3bo2bo33b2o48b2o8b2o12b4o3bo
5b2o2b3ob3o2b2o4bobo5b3o4b2o$411b5o23b2o60bo135bo144bobo175b4o35b2o
173b3o22b3ob2o10b2o7bo106bo3bo3bo2bobobo3bo2bo10bo8b2o3bo$410bo4bo123b
4o94bobo143b2o357b2o31b2o4b2o9b2o5b6o2bo8b2o6bo105b2ob2o6b2o3bo4bobo$
415bo122bo3bo94b2o63b6o33b4o397b2o24bo5b2o3b2ob2o8b2o12bobo8b2o4b2o26b
3o76b2o2bo6bo3b2o3b3o$410bo3bo127bo158bo5bo32bo3bo429bo4b2ob2o22bobo
13bo27b5o90bo5bo27b2o$412bo125bo2bo165bo36bo8bo424b2o2b2o23bo11b2o29b
3ob2o122b4o$701bo4bo33bo2bo7bo3bo418b2ob4obo70b2o12bo63bobo44b2ob2o$
703b2o51bo338b5o71bo3b3o2bobo82b2o64b2o47b2o$123bo627bo4bo337bo4bo68bo
7bo5bo40b4o39b2o$121bobo356b6o33b4o229b5o342bo72bo8b3o38bo3bo$122b2o
355bo5bo32bo3bo571bo3bo72b2o8bo44bo$485bo36bo573bo84b3o38bo2bo94b4o35b
2o$479bo4bo33bo2bo660b2o135b6o33b4o$481b2o836b4ob2o32b2ob2o$841bobo
252bo226b2o35b2o$841b2o253bobo65b6o33b4o$34bo807bo253b2o65bo5bo32bo3bo
$34b3o1132bo36bo$32b2o3bo1125bo4bo33bo2bo$31bobob2obo1126b2o$32bobobob
o$36bob2o$33bo2bo$34bobo$33b2ob2o326bo$364bobo392bo$2o362b2o196bo194bo
bo$bo560bobo193b2o$bobo558b2o$2b2o37b2o$41bo$10bo28bobo1150bo$8b2obo
27b2o1149b2o$8bo4bo84bo1092b2o$9b2o3bo5bo75bobo$11bo2b2o3bobo75b2o22bo
49bo49bo49bo49bo49bo49bo49bo49bo49bo49bo49bo49bo$15bo3bobo97b3o47b3o
47b3o47b3o47b3o47b3o47b3o47b3o47b3o47b3o47b3o47b3o47b3o$13bo6bo97bo49b
o49bo49bo49bo49bo49bo49bo49bo49bo49bo49bo49bo$11b2o3b2o100b2o48b2o48b
2o48b2o48b2o48b2o48b2o48b2o48b2o48b2o48b2o48b2o48b2o$12b2o2b2o11b2o28b
2ob2o702bobo252bo$12b2o3bo11b2o29bobo703b2o253bobo$20b2o33b2obo5bob2o
699bo253b2o$11bo7b3o32bobob2o3b2obobo9bo49bo49bo49bo49bo49bo49bo49bo
49bo49bo49bo49bo49bo49bo49bo49bo49bo49bo49bo49bo49bo49bo$10b2o41bo6bob
o6bo8b3o47b3o47b3o47b3o47b3o47b3o47b3o47b3o47b3o47b3o47b3o47b3o47b3o
47b3o47b3o47b3o47b3o47b3o47b3o47b3o47b3o47b3o$11bo41b7o3b7o11bo49bo49b
o49bo49bo49bo49bo49bo49bo49bo49bo49bo49bo49bo49bo49bo49bo49bo49bo49bo
49bo49bo$12bo2bo64b2o11b2o35b2o11b2o35b2o11b2o35b2o11b2o35b2o11b2o35b
2o48b2o48b2o48b2o48b2o48b2o48b2o48b2o48b2o48b2o48b2o48b2o48b2o48b2o48b
2o48b2o48b2o$5b4o4b2o40b3o7b3o25b2o48b2o48b2o48b2o48b2o$4bo4bo44bo2bo
3bo3bo2bo693b2o$3bobo3bo44b2o4bobo4b2o693bobo$2bobo3bo51bobo699bo$2bo
58bo$2bo484bo$2bo2bo48bo432bobo$3b2o50bo431b2o$53b3o12b2o$68b2o35b2o
48b2o48b2o48b2o48b2o48b2o48b2o48b2o48b2o48b2o48b2o48b2o48b2o48b2o48b2o
48b2o48b2o48b2o$106bo49bo49bo49bo49bo49bo49bo49bo49bo49bo49bo49bo49bo
49bo49bo49bo49bo49bo236b2o$103b3o47b3o47b3o47b3o47b3o47b3o47b3o47b3o
47b3o47b3o47b3o47b3o47b3o47b3o47b3o47b3o47b3o47b3o237bobo$103bo49bo49b
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49bo49bo49bo$50b2obobo4bo7b2o3b2o19b3o47b3o47b3o47b3o47b3o47b3o47b3o
47b3o$51bobo9b2o31bo49bo49bo49bo49bo25b2o22bo49bo49bo$50bo2b2o8bo257bo
bo$51b2o11b3o256bo$53b2o11bo$53bo$54bo964b2o$53b2o963b2o$837b2o181bo$
483b2o352bobo$139b2o341bobo352bo$139bobo342bo$139bo5$1268b2o76b2o$
1268bobo73bo4bo33bo2bo$1268bo81bo36bo$567bo776bo5bo32bo3bo$566b2o777b
6o33b4o$566bobo573b2o35b2o$256b2o880b4ob2o32b2ob2o$254bo4bo33bo2bo841b
6o33b4o$260bo36bo841b4o35b2o97bo77b2o46bo2bo$254bo5bo32bo3bo49b2o926bo
3bo69bo5b4o48bo$255b6o33b4o48bobo678b5o248bo67bobo3bob4o43bo3bo$348bo
677bo4bo243bo4bo68bob2ob2o3b2o43b4o$978b2o51bo167b2o75b5o68bobob3o$
976bo4bo33bo2bo7bo3bo41b2o123b2ob2o143bob2o2b4o$187bo125bo2bo665bo36bo
8bo40b3ob2o19b2o61bo39b4o145b2ob2o34b2o6b2o$185bo3bo127bo658bo5bo32bo
3bo49b5o19b2o60b2obo17b3o19b2o146b2ob2o3b4o26bo3bo4b2o$190bo122bo3bo
594b2o63b6o33b4o50b3o22bo59b2obo16bo2bo138b2o29bo5b3o10b2o14b2o3bo14b
3o$185bo4bo123b4o190b2o402bobo242bo12b3o2bo3bo8bo3bo124b2o34b3o11b2o
16bo6bo12bo$186b5o23b2o60bo230bobo175b4o35b2o186bo241bo13bo4b2o2bo2bo
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48b2o20b3o11bo5bob2ob3ob2o9bob3o153b2o27bo4bo4bobo9b2o$214bo59bob2o18b
o387b4ob2o32b2ob2o181bo70bobo15bo36bo2bo43b2o48b2o9b2o11bo10bo5bo6bobo
6bo8b2o173bo8bo7bob2o$273b2o2b2o11bo3b2ob2o8bo4b2o374b2o35b2o180bo3bo
68bobo2b2o9b2obo39bo77b2o23bo12b2o11b2o10bobo2bo3b8obo120bo42b2o9bo$
201b2o48b2o14bo6b4o10b2o4b2o8b4o3b2ob2o596bo69b4obo8bo2bo35bo3bo77b2o
24b2ob2o20b2o3bobo4b2ob2ob2o6b4o119bo3bo21bo2bo15b2o9bo20b2o7bo2bo$
201b2o48b2o9b2o2bo8b3o10b2ob2ob2o3bo3b5o4bo2bo591bo4bo69b2obob2o47b4o
103b2obo31bo5bobo8bo126bo19bo49bo4bo9bo$236b2o24bobo2bo20bo3bo9bo9bo2b
o592b5o70b2o2b2o2b2o2bo131b2o8b3o5bo25b2o3b3o6bobo129bo4bo4bo13bo5bo
50bo4bo3bo$236b2o35b2o14bo2bo3b3o4b2o8b2o429b2o239bo5b2o2bobo129b2o21b
2o166b5o2bo3bo11bo3b3o44bo5bo5b4o$257bo5bobo6bobo15b7o7bo128bo182b3o
124b4o236bo6bo5bo117b2o34b2o5b2o40b2o129bo9b2ob4o46b6o$229bo16b2o9bo6b
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30b2o5b2ob2o123bo4bo10bo2b2o$227bo3bo14b2o9bo7bo3b2o23bo9b2o7bo2bo119b
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bo18b3o15bo240bo32b2obo5bo7bo4bo81b3ob2o62b4o$228b5o2bo3bo36b2o24bo5bo
5b4o139b2o241bo22bo2bo12bo229b2o12bo7b2o20b3o3bo5bo6b5o82b5o$240bo62b
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388b2o48b2o22bo11b5o5b2o4bo2b3obo5bo206bo10bobo5b2o10b2obo16b2o13b2o2b
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2o3b3obo7bo3bob5o2bobo2b2o56bo88b2o40b3ob2o$369bo57bo18b4o2bo4b2o2b2ob
2o5bo3b2o191b2o$361bobo2bobo46bo10bobo19bobobob2obo6b2o7b3o$360bo3b2o
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$369bo152b3o46b2o58b4o6b4o$368bo152bo47bo2bo57b6o5b2ob2o$521bo3bo43b3o
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3bo$542bo$537bo4bo$538b5o!
is this technically a puffer or a rake ?
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Re: a new puffer

Post by LucasBrown » September 14th, 2024, 10:38 pm

otismo wrote:
September 14th, 2024, 9:12 pm
is this technically a puffer or a rake ?
This is a breeder.

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Re: a new puffer

Post by confocaloid » September 14th, 2024, 11:03 pm

I suggest to move the thread to Sandbox, to reduce clutter in the rest of the forums. The thread doesn't have a long-term scope/topic of interest, and was created by a newcomer instead of posting in an existing thread like "Unsure discoveries".
otismo wrote:
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I added a p246 Glider Gun and a Glider-to-Herschel Converter

to the p100-H-track-puffer ( that came with Golly )

[...]

is this technically a puffer or a rake ?
As LucasBrown wrote, it's a quadratic growth and a breeder.

The stationary mechanism (a periodic Herschel-producing factory) creates Herschels, which then run away along a growing Herschel track.
It seems like the Herschels never interact again with each other, and every single Herschel "lives" forever, running along the track and creating more and more gliders.
Further, those created gliders also never interact with each other or anything else in the pattern, and all those gliders escape away.

So it's a stationary mechanism producing non-interacting Herschels forever, and each Herschel produces non-interacting gliders forever; making the pattern a type of breeder.
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Re: a new puffer

Post by otismo » September 15th, 2024, 4:57 am

Thank You Both

for the quick, concise response -

I was scrolling thru pages of threads and this was the

first thread on Puffers I found - is there an "Official" Puffer thread, for future

reference ?

Are Factory Flotillas like this technically Puffers ?

I found the Pattern in the Puffer Directory in Golly...
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Re: a new puffer

Post by dvgrn » September 15th, 2024, 6:02 am

otismo wrote:
September 15th, 2024, 4:57 am
... is there an "Official" Puffer thread, for future reference ?
I don't know of one. Puffers are one of those "dime a dozen" categories where it's possible to generate literally millions of them very quickly, but none of them are necessarily any more interesting than any of the others. From long experience, we try not to maintain threads that have the potential to collect millions of not-particularly-interesting posts. It would be the CA equivalent of a forum thread dedicated to text strings that contain the letter "A".

So, in general, puffers should probably just be posted somewhere like the Construction practice thread, or some existing thread in the Sandbox, so that people know not to expect anything particularly ground-breaking. Only puffers with some really unusual purpose or special feature are going to be of much interest to the community -- and those are so rare that they haven't even needed a dedicated thread.
otismo wrote:
September 15th, 2024, 4:57 am
Are Factory Flotillas like this technically Puffers ?

I found the Pattern in the Puffer Directory in Golly...
The original version of the pattern was almost a standard linear-growth puffer -- if you ignore the Herschel that was added to demonstrate the growing Herschel conduit.

With the Herschel, you could maybe call the pattern a "growing puffer" by analogy with growing spaceship. Growing puffers are a slightly more limited category, but it's still easy to generate millions of them -- analogous to text strings that contain the letter "A" always followed immediately by the letter "B". They're not quite exactly standard puffers, but it still isn't clear why it's interesting to pay attention to them.

Once you start generating a regular stream of Herschels to feed the conduit, you've got a quadratic-growth pattern -- a breeder, as LucasBrown says. No, for sure, it's not just a puffer any more. It still contains a puffer, but that's no longer a good description of the whole pattern ... just like you wouldn't call a car a "front bumper".

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