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For discussion of specific patterns or specific families of patterns in Conway's Game of Life, both newly-discovered and well-known.
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by iNoMed » December 3rd, 2024, 7:32 am

Sokwe wrote:
December 2nd, 2024, 10:58 pm
Are there any other ways to activate an odd traffic stop at p35?
Well, there is - but it isn't exactly much better:

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x = 84, y = 76, rule = B3/S23
36b2o22b2o$37bo22bo$35bobobo3bo10bo3bobo$34bobob3ob3o8b3ob3o$32b3obo3b
2obobo6bobob2o$31bo4bo3b3ob3o4b3ob3o$32b3ob2o3bobobo6bobobo$34b2o2bo3b
3o8b3o$37b3o18bo$37b3o2b3o8b3o2bo$34b2o2bo2bobobo6bobobo$31b2obob2o2b
3ob3o4b3ob3o6bo11b2o$31b2obobo4bobobo6bobobo5b3o12b2o$29bo2bobobo5b3o
8b3o5bo14bo$29b3o3bo7bo10bo6b2o19b2o$32b3o47bo$31bo48bobo$31b2o23bo11b
o11b2o$56bo4b2o5bo2b3o$56bo11bobo2bo$59bob2o8b3o$48bobo7b2o$48b2o4b2o
19b2o$49bo3bobo19b2o$53bo$52b2o$60b2o$59bobo14bo$61bo13bobo$40bo35bo$
39bo$39b3o4$51b2o$52b2o$51bo$32bo$30b2o$31b2o4$42b3o$44bo$7bo35bo$6bob
o13bo$7bo14bobo$22b2o$30b2o$30bo$7b2o19bobo3bo$7b2o19b2o4b2o$24b2o7bob
o$10b3o8b2obo$10bo2bobo11bo$10b3o2bo5b2o4bo$2b2o11bo11bo23b2o$bobo48bo
$bo47b3o$2o19b2o6bo10bo7bo3b3o$7bo14bo5b3o8b3o5bobobo2bo$5b2o12b3o5bob
obo6bobobo4bobob2o$6b2o11bo6b3ob3o4b3ob3o2b2obob2o$27bobobo6bobobo2bo
2b2o$25bo2b3o8b3o2b3o$25bo18b3o$28b3o8b3o3bo2b2o$27bobobo6bobobo3b2ob
3o$26b3ob3o4b3ob3o3bo4bo$26b2obobo6bobob2o3bob3o$24b3ob3o8b3ob3obobo$
23bobo3bo10bo3bobobo$23bo22bo$22b2o22b2o!
It actually gives us a lot of room for the "sparker and blinker eater fusion" concept though - so that's a plus!

Edit: Here's a variant that replaces one half with a glider loop so that only one sparker-blinker eater is necessary:

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x = 81, y = 77, rule = B3/S23
47b2o4b2o$47bobo2bobo$49b4o$47bo2b2o2bo$47bo2b2o2bo$49bo2bo11bo$62b3o$
61bo$61b2o$48b3o2$46bo5bo2bobo$46bo5b4ob3o7b3o$46bo5b3obobo20b2o$55b3o
7bo9b3o2bo$48b3o4b3o6bobo11b2o$66b2o6bo$74bo$78b2o$75b3o2bo$79b2o$63b
3o$48bobo12bo$48b2o14bo3b2o$49bo19bo$67b3o2$60b2o10b2o$59bobo10bobo$
61bo12bo$40bo33b2o$39bo$39b3o4$51b2o$52b2o$51bo$32bo$30b2o$31b2o4$42b
3o$44bo$7bo35bo$6bobo13bo$7bo14bobo$22b2o$30b2o$30bo$7b2o19bobo3bo$7b
2o19b2o4b2o$24b2o7bobo$10b3o8b2obo$10bo2bobo11bo$10b3o2bo5b2o4bo$2b2o
11bo11bo23b2o$bobo48bo$bo47b3o$2o19b2o6bo10bo7bo3b3o$7bo14bo5b3o8b3o5b
obobo2bo$5b2o12b3o5bobobo6bobobo4bobob2o$6b2o11bo6b3ob3o4b3ob3o2b2obob
2o$27bobobo6bobobo2bo2b2o$25bo2b3o8b3o2b3o$25bo18b3o$28b3o8b3o3bo2b2o$
27bobobo6bobobo3b2ob3o$26b3ob3o4b3ob3o3bo4bo$26b2obobo6bobob2o3bob3o$
24b3ob3o8b3ob3obobo$23bobo3bo10bo3bobobo$23bo22bo$22b2o22b2o!
Edit 2: Polished the glider loop and optimized for bounding box:

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x = 78, y = 72, rule = B3/S23
13bo16b2o$13b3o13bo2bo$16bo12bobo2bo2bo$6b2o7b2o11b2obob5o$5bobo20bo2b
o$5bo22b3o2b3o$6b4o10bob2o4b4o4bo$3b3o3bo8b3ob3o3b3o2b2obo$3bo2bo12bob
ob2o3bo2bo3bo$6b2o12b3o5b2obob2o$b4ob2o12b3o6bobobo$o7b3o18bobo2bo$2ob
2ob5o19bo2b2o$bobo2b2o$bo2bo$2b2o$12b3o$14bo12bobo$8b2o3bo14b2o$8bo19b
o$8b3o2$4b2o10b2o$3bobo10bobo$3bo12bo$2b2o33bo$38bo$36b3o4$25b2o$24b2o
$26bo$45bo$46b2o$45b2o4$33b3o$33bo$34bo35bo$55bo13bobo$53bobo14bo$54b
2o$46b2o$47bo$43bo3bobo19b2o$42b2o4b2o19b2o$42bobo7b2o$53bob2o8b3o$50b
o11bobo2bo$50bo4b2o5bo2b3o$25b2o23bo11bo11b2o$25bo48bobo$26b3o47bo$23b
3o3bo7bo10bo6b2o19b2o$23bo2bobobo5b3o8b3o5bo14bo$25b2obobo4bobobo6bobo
bo5b3o12b2o$25b2obob2o2b3ob3o4b3ob3o6bo11b2o$28b2o2bo2bobobo6bobobo$
31b3o2b3o8b3o2bo$31b3o18bo$28b2o2bo3b3o8b3o$26b3ob2o3bobobo6bobobo$25b
o4bo3b3ob3o4b3ob3o$26b3obo3b2obobo6bobob2o$28bobob3ob3o8b3ob3o$29bobob
o3bo10bo3bobo$31bo22bo$30b2o22b2o!

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x = 35, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
4b2o3b2o3bo3b2ob2o3b2ob2o$2o2bobo3bo2bobobobobobobobobobo$obobo2bo2bob
o2bobo2bo2bobo3bobo$2bobo3bobobobo2bo5bobo3bobob2o$b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2o3b
2ob2o3b2ob2o!

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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by hotcrystal0 » December 3rd, 2024, 5:13 pm

iNoMed wrote:
December 3rd, 2024, 7:32 am
Edit 2: Polished the glider loop and optimized for bounding box:

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x = 78, y = 72, rule = B3/S23
13bo16b2o$13b3o13bo2bo$16bo12bobo2bo2bo$6b2o7b2o11b2obob5o$5bobo20bo2b
o$5bo22b3o2b3o$6b4o10bob2o4b4o4bo$3b3o3bo8b3ob3o3b3o2b2obo$3bo2bo12bob
ob2o3bo2bo3bo$6b2o12b3o5b2obob2o$b4ob2o12b3o6bobobo$o7b3o18bobo2bo$2ob
2ob5o19bo2b2o$bobo2b2o$bo2bo$2b2o$12b3o$14bo12bobo$8b2o3bo14b2o$8bo19b
o$8b3o2$4b2o10b2o$3bobo10bobo$3bo12bo$2b2o33bo$38bo$36b3o4$25b2o$24b2o
$26bo$45bo$46b2o$45b2o4$33b3o$33bo$34bo35bo$55bo13bobo$53bobo14bo$54b
2o$46b2o$47bo$43bo3bobo19b2o$42b2o4b2o19b2o$42bobo7b2o$53bob2o8b3o$50b
o11bobo2bo$50bo4b2o5bo2b3o$25b2o23bo11bo11b2o$25bo48bobo$26b3o47bo$23b
3o3bo7bo10bo6b2o19b2o$23bo2bobobo5b3o8b3o5bo14bo$25b2obobo4bobobo6bobo
bo5b3o12b2o$25b2obob2o2b3ob3o4b3ob3o6bo11b2o$28b2o2bo2bobobo6bobobo$
31b3o2b3o8b3o2bo$31b3o18bo$28b2o2bo3b3o8b3o$26b3ob2o3bobobo6bobobo$25b
o4bo3b3ob3o4b3ob3o$26b3obo3b2obobo6bobob2o$28bobob3ob3o8b3ob3o$29bobob
o3bo10bo3bobo$31bo22bo$30b2o22b2o!
Here’s one possible spark:

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x = 81, y = 72, rule = B3/S23
13bo16b2o$13b3o13bo2bo$16bo12bobo2bo2bo$6b2o7b2o11b2obob5o$5bobo18bo3b
2o$5bo23b2o2b3o$6b4o10b3o2bo3bobo2bobo$3b3o3bo9b3obo5b2o2b2obo$3bo2bo
12bo3bo2bo3b2o3bo$6bo13b3o5b2obob2o$b5o23bobobo$o5bo2b2o18bobo2bo$2ob
4o2b2o19bo2b2o$bobo2bo$bo2bo$2b2o$12b2o13bo$10bo2bo14b2o$9bo3bo13b2o$
9bobo$9b2o2$4b2o$3bobo10b3o$3bo12bo$2b2o13bo19bo$35bobo$36b2o4$26bo$25b
2o$25bobo$44bobo$45b2o$45bo4$34b2o$34bobo$34bo19bo15bo$55bo13bobo$53b
3o14bo2$46b2o$47bo$47bobo19b2o$43b2o3b2o19b2o$42b2o8b3o$44bo14bo5b2o$
50bo4b2o5bo3bo$50bo4b2o5bo3bo$25b2o23bo11bo2bo8b2o$25bo48bobo$26b3o23b
3o21bo$23b3o3bo46b2o$23bo2b3obo6bo10bo20bobo$24bobobobo5b3o8b3o5bo2bo
11b2o$28bob2o3b2ob2o6b2ob2o3b2o2bo11bo$25b2obo2bo4b3o8b3o4bo2bo$28bob
2o5bo10bo5bo2bo$30b2o22bo$28bo2bo5bo10bo5bo$26b3ob2o4b3o8b3o4bo$25bo4b
o4b2ob2o6b2ob2o4b2o22bo$26b3obo5b3o8b3o30bo$28bobob2o3bo10bo3b2o24b3o
$29bobobo18bobo$31bo22bo$30b2o22b2o!
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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!

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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by LWSSONHWSSONLWSS » December 3rd, 2024, 11:44 pm

Now, we just need the eater to be fixed.
EDIT:And we need a sparker.
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by Period1GliderGun » December 4th, 2024, 6:51 pm

Smaller p126 gun (1144 vs 1170) via the thumb-release mechanism from the p258 gun:

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x = 44, y = 26, rule = B3/S23
25bo$23b3o$22bo$22b2o10bo$34bobo$33bobo$35bo$9b2o$9b2o8b3o2$17bo5bo$23b
o$23bo$o14bo$obo11bo2bob3o$2o13bo7b2o17b2o$23b2o12b2obo2bo$36bobob3o$
4bo31bobo$3bobo19b2o10bob2o$3b2o2bobo5bo9bo9bobobobo$b2o2bo2b2o4b2ob2o
7b3o6b2o3bo$2bobo8bob4o9bo$bo2b5obobobo$bobo3bob2obo2bo$2ob2o8b2o!
Currently on another planet.

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x = 36, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
23bobo$21bo3bo$13bo7bo$12b4o4bo4bo8b2o$11b2obobo4bo12b2o$2o8b3obo2bo3b
o3bo$2o9b2obobo6bobo$12b4o$13bo!
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by Sokwe » December 5th, 2024, 12:49 am

iNoMed wrote:
December 3rd, 2024, 7:32 am
Sokwe wrote:
December 2nd, 2024, 10:58 pm
Are there any other ways to activate an odd traffic stop at p35?
Well, there is - but it isn't exactly much better
It's enough. Here is the completed true p35 gun using a large p5 sparker found with JLS:

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x = 133, y = 80, rule = B3/S23
11b2o$10bob3o$10bo4bo9bo$7b2obob2obo7b3o$7bobo2bobo7bo$4b2obo2bobo9b2o
$3bo2bobobob2o$3b2obobo$6bo$6b2o2bo2bo4bobo$11b2o5bo2bo$17bo2bo$17bo$
2o15b2o$bo$bobo$2b2o$23b3o$23bo$7b2o15bo$7bobo$9bo$7b2o$7bo49b2o$57bob
o$33bo20b2obo2bo5b2o$16bo15b2o20bobobobo4bobo$4b5o8b2o13bobo21bo4bo3bo
$3bo5bo6b2o38bob4o2b2o$b3o5b3o45bo3bo2bo3bo$o11bo45b3ob2ob4o2bo$ob3obo
b4o48bo4bo3b3o$bo3b3o60bo$3bo5b2obo48bo2bo3b2o$2b2obobobob2o28b2o$3bob
o2bo17bo14bobo$3bo2b2o16bobo14bo17b3o3b3o$2b2o21b2o32bobo3bobo$59b3o3b
3o5$50b2o$33bobo13b2o$34b2o15bo$34bo11bo$46b3o10b3o3b3o$49bo9bobo3bobo
7bob2o$48b2o9b3o3b3o7b2o2bo6b2o$52b3o23bo2b2o2bobo22b2obo5b2o$73b5ob2o
b4obobo12b2o2b2obo2b2o4bo2bo2b2o$43bo6bo17b2o2bo4bobo8bobo11bo3bo3bo7b
obo2bo2bob2o$44bo5bo5bo7bo3bo4b2o5b7obobo13bobob2ob3o3b2ob2obo2bobobo$
42b3o5bo5bo3b2ob2o4b3obo4bobo4b2obob2o8b5o2bobobo2bo3bo4bob2o3bo$60bo
12bob2o2b2o3bo3bobo9bo4bobob2o2bo3b2o3b2o3b3ob2o$52b3o4bo4bobobob4o2bo
bo4bo3b2obo3bobo4bo2bo2bobo3bo4bo2b2obob2o3bo$52bo5bo3bobobo5b2o3b2o2b
2o5bobo9b2o2b4obobo3b2ob2ob2obo2bobobo$51b2o4bo2bobobobo2bo4bobo8b3ob
5obobo2b2o3bo5bobo2bobo5bob2ob2o$50bobo4b2o3bobo4b2ob2ob2o5b5o6bo6bo6b
obobob2obob5ob2o2bo$49b2ob2o2bo2b3obobobo2bobobobob2ob2obo4b2obobob2ob
o2bo4bo2bo2bo2b2o5bo3bo2b3o$49b2o6bobo3bobob2ob2o5bo4bobo3bo3b3obob2ob
2obo2bo3b2o2bo3b3obo4b2o2bo$48b3ob2o5b3obob2o10b4o4bo2bo6bobo5b4o9b3o
2b2o7bo$48b4obo6bo2bo4bob4ob2o4b5o3bo2b2o2bob2o2bo15bo11b2o$50bo3bo5b
2obob2ob2o3b2o3b3o5b3obo2bobobo4bob2obo$51bobo9bo2bo4bo4b2o3bob2o3bob
2o2b2obo2bobobob2o$52bo9b2obo2b5ob2o2b4obo14b3obo$63bob3o7bo2bo4bo19bo
$63bo5b5o6b3o17b3o$43bo4b2o7bobo4bob3obo3b6o3b3o14bo$42bobo3b2o8b2o8bo
2b2o3bo2bo2bo3bo$43bo14bo6bo2b2o5bo2bo4bob2o$66bo9bob2o2b2o$69bo2bobo
4bo2bob3o$54b2o12bobo3bob2obobobo2bo$54bo14bo2bobobo2bo2b4o$55b3o12b3o
bo3b2o$57bo9bo5bobo6b2o$68bo3bo2bo6b2o$66b3o4b2o!
Obviously, smaller variants of the large p5 must exist, but this is the first one I found.

Does anyone know who found each component or connection of this gun in order to properly credit the discovery?

Edit: the essentially gun design was of course by hotcrystal0 and iNoMed above. The p15 dependent 0-degree "reflector" that activates the odd traffic stop was found by goldenratio in December 2021. The p35 pre-pulsar shuttle was discovered by Period1GliderGun on Dec. 2, 2024, based on a p48 pre-pulsar shuttle by Luke Kiernan.
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by WhiteHawk » December 5th, 2024, 12:59 am

Sokwe wrote:
December 5th, 2024, 12:49 am
Does anyone know who found each component or connection of this gun in order to properly credit the discovery?
Awesome discovery.

It seems like iNoMed found the main layout of the gun and hotcrystal0 presented the dual spark placement

EDIT: Just finished creating the P35 gun page.
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » December 5th, 2024, 8:11 pm

A true-period 35 glider gun has been found!

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x = 122, y = 67, rule = B3/S23
b2o4b2ob2o$2bo4bob2obo$2bob2obo4bo14bo$2o2bobob4ob2o10b3o$bobo2bobo4bo
bo8bo$o2b2o5bo2bobo8b2o$b2o3b2o2bo2bob2o$3b2o6b3o2bo5bo$3bo6bo3b2o5bob
o22b2o$5bo4b4o2bo5b2o2b2o18bo$4b2o7bob2o9b2o15b2obobo6b2o$10b2obobo27b
obob3o4bobo$10b2obobo29bo5bo2bo$14bo5bo24bob4o2b2o$19bo26bo10bo$19b3o
25b3o4b4o2bo$4b2o5b2o36bo4bo3b3o$5bo5b2o15b2o20b4o3bo$5bobo20bobo26b2o
$6b2o20bo$10b2o$9bobo$10bo6bo27b3o2b2ob2o2b3o$15bobo31bo5bo$16b2o$48b
3o3b3o$5b2o30b2o$5bo2b2ob2o23b2o$7b2obob3o23bo$10bo4bo$6bob2ob5o2bo29b
3o3b3o$6b2obobo4b3o5bobo8bo$9bobo3bo9b2o8b3o11bo5bo$9b2ob2obob4o4bo12b
o6b3o2b2ob2o2b3o4bob2o$15bobo2bo16b2o2b2o21b2o2bo6b2o$14b2o25b2o24bo2b
2o2bobo22b2obo5b2o$12bo3bo25bo19b5ob2ob4obobo12b2o2b2obo2b2o4bo2bo2b2o
$12bob3o22b3o10bo4b2o2bo4bo8bobobo11bo3bo3bo7bobo2bo2bob2o$38bo2bo9b2o
4bo2bob3o2b3ob2ob2obobo13bobob2ob3o3b2ob2obo2bobobo$8bo2bobob2o17bo4b
3o8bob2o4b2o2bob4o3bo3bobob2o8b5o2bobo4bo8b4o3bo$8b4ob2obo18bo3b2o9bo
8bo5b2o2bobo5bo4b2o5bo4bobo2bobo2bob2ob2o5bo3b2o$12bo20b3o14bobo2bo3b
2o8bobo5b2ob5o7bobob2o3bo3bo7b4obobo$10bobo35bo4b6o3b3o3b2o2bobo7bob2o
3bobo4bo4bo3b2o2b3o4bobobo$10b2o36b2obobo4bo3b2o4bo8bobo7b3o4b5obo4bob
o3bobob2ob2o$44b2obo5bob3o3bobob2o2bo5b2o4bo2bobob3o6bob2ob2obob5ob2o
2bo$47b4obobob4ob2o2b2o5b2ob2ob2obobo4bo2bo2b2obobo2bo2b2o5bo3bo2b3o$
46b2o2bobobo4b3ob2o2bo2b2ob3o7bobobo8bo3b2o2bo3b3obo4b2o2bo$42bo6bo2bo
b2o10b3o6b3o6b3o2bo2b4o9b3o2b2o7bo$42bo7bobo4bob4ob2o4b5o6b2obo2b4o16b
o11b2o$48bo3bob2ob2o3b2o3b3o5b3obo2bobobo4bob2obo$49b2obo2bo4bo4b2o3bo
b2o3bob2o2b2obo2bobobob2o$52bobo2b5ob2o2b4obo14b3obo$41b3o8bob3o7bo2bo
4bo19bo$37bo2b3o10bo4b5o6b3o17b3o$32bo7b2o12b4o3bob6o3b3o14bo$31bobo3b
2o15bo2bo4bo5bo2bo3bo$32bo15bobo4b2o5bo2bo2b2obob3o$49b2o4b2o5bo2bo2b
2o$49bo8b2o3bobo2bo2bo2b2o$43b2o13b4obob2obobo4bo$43bo14bo4bobo2bo2b4o
$44b3o12b3obo3b2o$46bo15bobo6b2o$61bo2bo6b2o$58bo3b2o$59bo$57b3o!
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by KtT » December 8th, 2024, 10:27 am

A p72 glider gun based on this p72 century hassler:

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x = 51, y = 38, rule = B3/S23
o2b2o$4o6bo$5b2obobobo$2b2ob3o4bo$2bo9bo$3b3o3b2o$5bo$9bo$6b3o$25b2o8b
2o$25b2o8b2obo$39bo$4b2o30bo$4b2o10b2o19bob2o5bo$15bobo21b2o4bobo$14b
2o29bobo$15b2o27b2ob3o$50bo$44b2ob3o$44b2obo$39b2o$25b2o8b2obo2bo$26b
2o7b2o2bobo$24bobo13bo$24b2o$45bobo$46b2o$15b2o29bo$15b2o$33b3o$32bo$
36bo$31b2o3b3o$29bo9bo$29bo4b3ob2o$29bobobob2o$31bo6b4o$37b2o2bo!

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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by hotdogPi » December 9th, 2024, 11:05 am

Possible p26 gun?

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x = 104, y = 35, rule = B3/S23
5bo$3b5o$2bo5bo$2bo2b3o13b2o$b2obo16bo$o3b2o13bobo$bobo2bo8bo3b2o$2ob
4o8b2o$6bo8b3o$2ob4o8b2o$bobo2bo8bo$o3b2o$b2obo23bo8bo$2bo2b3o8bobo3bo
bo2bobo6bobo$2bo5bo2b2o2bo2bo3bo2b2o3bo6bo$3b5o3b2o3bobo3bobo2bobo$5bo
22bo2$5bo22bo$3b5o3b2o3bobo3bobo2bobo$2bo5bo2b2o2bo2bo3bo2b2o3bo5bo2bo
bo21bo2bobo18bo2bobo$2bo2b3o8bobo3bobo2bobo5b2o4b2o19b2o4b2o16b2o4b2o
6bo$b2obo23bo9bo2b3o21bo2b3o5bo12bo2b3o4b3o$o3b2o34b2ob2o2b2o18b2ob2o
2b5o12b2ob2o2bobobo$bobo2bo8bo24b2o4b3o18b2o4b3ob2o12b2o4b3ob3o$2ob4o
8b2o23b3o4bo19b3o4b5o12b3o4bobobo$6bo8b3o30bo27bo22b3o$2ob4o8b2o83bo$b
obo2bo8bo3b2o$o3b2o13bobo$b2obo16bo20b2o$2bo2b3o13b2o19bo$2bo5bo34b3o$
3b5o37bo$5bo!
EDIT: Here's a different way to do it

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x = 49, y = 35, rule = B3/S23
5bo$3b5o$2bo5bo$2bo2b3o13b2o$b2obo16bo$o3b2o6b2o5bobo$bobo7b4o4b2o$2ob
4o3b6o$8b3o4b2o$2ob4o3b6o$bobo7b4o$o3b2o6b2o$b2obo26bo5bo$2bo2b3o11bob
o8bobo3bobo$2bo5bo2b2o8bo7bo3bo3bo$3b5o3b2o5b2obo8bobo$5bo25bo2$5bo25b
o$3b5o3b2o5b2obo8bobo$2bo5bo2b2o8bo7bo3bo11bo$2bo2b3o11bobo8bobo10b2o$
b2obo26bo7bo7b2o$o3b2o6b2o24bobo5bobo$bobo7b4o22bo3bo5bo$2ob4o3b6o21bo
3bo$8b3o4b2o20bo4bo$2ob4o3b6o22bo2bo$bobo7b4o4b2o19b2o$o3b2o6b2o5bobo
21bo$b2obo16bo20bo$2bo2b3o13b2o19bo$2bo5bo$3b5o$5bo!
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Periods discovered:

All evens ≤128 except 52,58,78,82,92,94,98,104,118,122

5-15,㉕-㉛,㉟㊺,51,63,65,73,75
1㊳㊵㊹㊼㊽,54,56,72,74,80,90,92
217,240,300,486,576

Guns: 20,21,32,54,55,57,114,117,124,126
SKOPs: 32,74,76,102,196

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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by LWSSONHWSSONLWSS » December 9th, 2024, 8:27 pm

Now we just need a banana sparker, and the gun is done.
Please click this okay?
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by Period1GliderGun » December 10th, 2024, 6:43 pm

p213 4-barreled gun, found by hand:

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x = 78, y = 52, rule = B3/S23
38b3o30b2o$38bo32b2o$39bo$67b2o$67b2o3b2o$72b2o$32b2o$3b2o19bo7b2o20b
2o$2b2o20bo15bo12bo2bo$4bo19bo14bob2o11b2o$39bo6bo$39bob3o2bo27b2o$44b
obo27bobo$76bo$76b2o2$45bo$43b2obo7b2o$28b2o13bo2bo7b2o$27bobo13b3o$29b
o14b2o2$34b2o7b3o$34bo$35b3o$37bo$40bo$40b3o$43bo$32b3o7b2o2$32b2o14b
o$32b3o13bobo$22b2o7bo2bo13b2o$22b2o7bob2o$32bo2$2o$bo$bobo27bobo$2b2o
27bo2b3obo$31bo6bo$22b2o11b2obo14bo19bo$21bo2bo12bo15bo20b2o$22b2o20b
2o7bo19b2o$44b2o$4b2o$4b2o3b2o$9b2o$38bo$5b2o32bo$5b2o30b3o!
BB when capped = 78*55 = 4290, which does not beat the existing record of 3894. The active region is an R; when capped with eaters, it has a population of 160 cells and is entirely Spartan.
Currently on another planet.

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x = 36, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
23bobo$21bo3bo$13bo7bo$12b4o4bo4bo8b2o$11b2obobo4bo12b2o$2o8b3obo2bo3b
o3bo$2o9b2obobo6bobo$12b4o$13bo!
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by KtT » December 13th, 2024, 9:38 am

P360 gliderless HWSS gun:

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x = 48, y = 82, rule = B3/S23
14b2o$12bo4bo$11bo6bo$10bo8bo$10bo8bo$10bo8bo$11bo6bo$12bo4bo$14b2o8b
2o$23bobo$13b2o4b2o3bo$12b2obob2o$13b2obo$15bo$b2o3$26bo$14b2o9bobo$14b
2o9bobo$27bo$24bo2bo2$24bobo$18b2o$17b3o$16bob2o$15bobo7bo$15bo2bo5bo
bo$16b2o5bo3bo$24b3o$16b2o8b2o3b2o$17bo8b2o3b2o$17bobo6b2o$18b2o3$12b
o23bo$12b3o19b3o8b2o$15bo17bo11bo$14b2o17b2o7b2obo$23b3o15bob2o$23b3o
16bo$22bo3bo15bo$8b2o12b2ob2o14b2o$9bo29b2obobo$9bobo29b2ob3o$4b2o4b2o
26b2o3bo3bo$3bobo32b2obobob2o$3bobobo32bobobo$b2obobob2o32bobo$o3bo3b
2o26b2o4b2o$b3ob2o29bobo$3bobob2o29bo$5b2o14b2ob2o12b2o$5bo15bo3bo$5b
o16b3o$3b2obo15b3o$2bob2o7b2o17b2o$2bo11bo17bo$b2o8b3o19b3o$11bo23bo3$
28b2o$20b2o6bobo$15b2o3b2o8bo$15b2o3b2o8b2o$21b3o$20bo3bo5b2o$21bobo5b
o2bo$22bo7bobo$28b2obo$28b3o$28b2o$21bobo2$20bo2bo$20bo$20bobo$20bobo
$21bo!

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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by confocaloid » December 16th, 2024, 7:27 pm

p11321 MWSS gun, prime period:

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x = 263, y = 245, rule = B3/S23
65b2o$64bobo$58b2o4bo$56bo2bo2b2ob4o$56b2obobobobo2bo$59bobobobo$59bob
ob2o$60bo2$73b2o$64b2o7bo$64b2o5bobo$71b2o7$61b2o$62bo$59b3o$59bo21$
110b2o6bo11b2o$109bo2bo4bobo10b2o$105b2o2b3obo3bobo$105bo6bobob2ob2o$
103bobo3b2o3bobo$9bo93b2o4bob4o2bob2o$9b3o99bo3bobob2o$12bo97bo3bobo$
11b2o96bo3bobo$94bo14b2o3bo$93bobo$3b2o89bo$3bo$2obo118b2o$o2b3o4b2o
110b2o$b2o3bo3b2o125b2o$3b4o129bo2bo$3bo15b2o72b2o42b2obo$4b3o12bobo
71b2o45bo$7bo13bo118b2o$2b5o14b2o102b2o$2bo123bo$4bo118b3o$3b2o111b2o
5bo$116bobo$118bo$118b2o3$94b2o15bo$81b2o10bobo14bobo$69bo5bob2obo2bo
9bo16bobo$69b3o3b2obob2obo8b2o17bo$72bo10bobo20b2o$65b2o4b2o6b2obob2o
19bobo$66bo12b2obo22bo$66bobo13bo21b2o$67b2o13b2o2$70b2o$69bo2bo$70bob
o$71bo10bo$81bobo6b2o$62b2o17b2o7bo$63bo5b2o17bobo$63bobobo2bo17b2o$
64b2ob3o$66bo$66bob2o21bo$67bobo4b2o15b3o$73bobo18bo$73bo19b2o$72b2o3$
80bo$79bobo$79bobo$80bo22b2o$84b2o10b2o5bobo$84bobo9b2o7bo$86bo18b2o$
86b2o$92bo$91bobob2o$91bobobobo$88b2obobobobo2bo$88bo2bo2b2ob4o$90b2o
4bo$96bobo$97b2o$57bo$57b3o$60bo38bo$59b2o36b3o$96bo$52b2o42b2o$53bo$
53bobo$54b2o$66b2o$65bo2bo$66b2o$99b2o$99b2o$167b2o$167b2o10bo$178bobo
$59b2o94bo6b2o15bo$60bo86b2o6b3o4b2o$57b3o68b2obob2o12b2o9bo$57bo69bo
2b2obo2bob2obo15b2o$104b2o20bobo4bob2obob2o45bo$104bo22bob5o52bobo$
105b3o21bo4bob2o49b2o26b2o$107bo20bo3bobob2o78bo$101b2o7b2o15bo3bobo
22b2o58bobo$101bobo7bo15b2o3bo22bobo59b2o$103bo7bobo41bo$80b2o21b2o7b
2o2b2o36b2o$80b2o34b2o2$139b2o$139b2o$105bo48b2o$105b3o45bo2bo17b2o$
108bo45b2obo16bo$107b2o48bo17b3o$157b2o18bo$142b2o$143bo$140b3o$128b2o
10bo$128bobo75b2o$130bo75b2o$130b2o$176b2ob2o$103b2o17b2o53bobo$102bo
2bo16bobo50bobobobo$101bobobo18bo50b2o3b2o$102bo2b2o17b2o90b2o$103b2o
4bo106b2o$105b5o$105bo4b2o61b2o3b2obo$106b2o2bo62bobo2bob2o$108bobo33b
2o29bo40b2o$108bobobo2bo27bobo29b2o39b2o$109b2ob4o27bo$111bo30b2o38b2o
23b2o$111bobo49b2o16bobo12b2o9b2o$112b2o49bo17bo14b2o$164b3o13b2o$166b
o91b2o$43b2o112b2o21b4o74bo$43bo113bobo20bo3bo75bo$44bo114bo23b2o55b2o
14b5o$43b2o114b2o80bo13bo$28b2o12bo198bobo12b3o$28b2o12b3o197b2o15bo$
24b2o19bo210b4o$25bo18b2o123b2o80b2o3bo3b2o$24bo9bo135bo80b2o4b3o2bo$
24b2o7bobo134bobo86bob2o$26bo6bobo135b2o86bo$24b2o2bo5bo10b2o211b2o$
23bo2b2obo15b2o$23b3o2bo$26b2o222b2o$23b2o22b2o151b2o48bo$24bob2o14b2o
bo2bo151b2o49b3o$24bo2bo13bobob2o206bo$25b2o14b2o2bo124b2o23b2o$45bobo
108b2o12b2o23b2o$29b2o15b2o108bobo$30bo96b2o29bo$27b3o96bobo29b2o$27bo
98bo$125b2o$146b2o27bo21b2o$146bo26b3o21bobo$147b3o22bo26bo$119bo29bo
22b2o25b2o$119b3o18b2o$122bo17bobo33bob2o$121b2o19bo31b3ob2o$56b2o84b
2o29bo$56b2o51b2o63b3ob2o$94bo15bo65bobo$92b3o15bobo63bobo$91bo19b2o
64bo8b2o$91b2o93b2o$40b2o40b2o$40bobo39bobo$43bo39bo$41b2obo$40bo2bo
90b2o59b2o$40b2o52b2o15bo22bobo58bo3b2o$37b2obo22b2o29b2o15bobo22bo54b
2o4bo2bo$37bo2bo22b2o46b3o22b2o48b2o3b2o3b4o$39bo4b2o67bo10b2o3b2o49bo
b2obobo$37bob2o3b2o76bo2bo4bo49b2obobo10b2o$36bobo83b3o5bobo51b2o10bob
o$36bo2b2o90b2o64b2o$37bobo6b2o74b3o$36b2o2bo5bo3b2o52b2o16bo2bo$39b2o
2b2obo4bo53bo18b2o$43bo2bob3o51b3o$45b2obo5b2o46bo$53bobo133b2o$53bo
134bo2bo$52b2o135b2o$65b2o$65b2o$200b2o$184b2o6bo7bobo$67b2o115b2o5bob
o8bo$67b2o123bobob2o4b2o$190bobobobobo$186b2obobobo4bo$186bob2obobob3o
$192b2obo!
#C [[ MAXGRIDSIZE 9 THEME Catagolue STEP 8 ]]
#C [[ T 257 PAUSE 1 T 699 PAUSE 1 T 1200 PAUSE 1 T 1700 PAUSE 1 T 10628 PAUSE 1 STOP 11321 ]]
I think one interesting observation about this gun, is that a significant part of the glider track involving the two reflectors in the bottom-right corner (a Snark and a Snark64) is reused for two completely unrelated purposes.

One of two uses of that glider track can be seen between generations 257 and 699 (counting the posted pattern as generation zero), when a timed glider is routed to collide with a prepreblock to create an output spaceship.

Another use of the same glider track can be seen between generations 1200 and 1700 (later repeating again several times), when it temporarily becomes part of a 1955-tick glider loop. Several cycles later, the glider is turned away from the loop, and routed and converted back to the input Herschel, and then everything repeats again.

Another interesting observation about this gun is that several instances can be arranged to send middleweight spaceships within the same "seven-cell-thick band":

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x = 574, y = 263, rule = B3/S23
185b2o327b2o$184bobo326bobo$178b2o4bo322b2o4bo$176bo2bo2b2ob4o316bo2bo
2b2ob4o$176b2obobobobo2bo316b2obobobobo2bo$179bobobobo322bobobobo$179b
obob2o323bobob2o$180bo328bo2$193b2o327b2o$184b2o7bo319b2o7bo$184b2o5bo
bo319b2o5bobo$191b2o327b2o7$181b2o327b2o$182bo328bo$179b3o326b3o$179bo
328bo22$140b2o327b2o$141bo22b2o3b2o299bo22b2o3b2o$138b3o23b2o3b2o296b
3o23b2o3b2o$138bo328bo7$172b2o327b2o$157b2o13b2o312b2o13b2o$157b2o327b
2o3$240bo328bo$238b3o326b3o$192b2o43bo283b2o43bo$192b2o11bo14b2o15b2o
282b2o11bo14b2o15b2o$203b3o14bobo309b3o14bobo$202bo19bo2b2o14b2o288bo
19bo2b2o14b2o$173b2o27b2o17b2obobo13bo2bo258b2o27b2o17b2obobo13bo2bo$
173b2o20b2o22bo2bob2o14b2obo258b2o20b2o22bo2bob2o14b2obo$195b2o22b2o
22b2o279b2o22b2o22b2o$240b2o327b2o$239bo2b3o323bo2b3o$221b2o15bob2o2bo
305b2o15bob2o2bo$221b2o10bo5bo2b2o306b2o10bo5bo2b2o$232bobo6bo319bobo
6bo$232bobo7b2o317bobo7b2o$137b2o94bo9bo222b2o94bo9bo$136bobo74b2o7b2o
18bo222bobo74b2o7b2o18bo$137bo75b2o7bo19b2o222bo75b2o7bo19b2o$223b3o
12b2o312b3o12b2o$178b2o45bo12b2o267b2o45bo12b2o$172b2o3bobo43b2o276b2o
3bobo43b2o$172bo4bo45bo277bo4bo45bo$162b2o3b2o4b3obo46bo266b2o3b2o4b3o
bo46bo$131bo28bo2bo4bo6bob2o44b2o235bo28bo2bo4bo6bob2o44b2o$130bobo27b
3o4bo39b2obo248bobo27b3o4bo39b2obo$131bo35b2o38b2ob3o247bo35b2o38b2ob
3o$151b2o7b3o50bo266b2o7b3o50bo$151bo8bo2bo6bo36b2ob3o267bo8bo2bo6bo
36b2ob3o$149bobo10b2o4b3o31b2o4bobo267bobo10b2o4b3o31b2o4bobo$149b2o
16bo35bo4bobo267b2o16bo35bo4bobo$167b2o34bobo3bo286b2o34bobo3bo$186b2o
16b2o309b2o16b2o$187bo7b2o319bo7b2o$184b3o8b2o316b3o8b2o$184bo328bo$
129b2o327b2o$129b2o327b2o$175b2o327b2o$175bo328bo$173bobo326bobo$132b
2o39b2o286b2o39b2o$132b2o327b2o2$180bo328bo$178b3o18bo307b3o18bo$134b
2o16bo24bo19b3o263b2o16bo24bo19b3o$133bobo4b2o8b3o24b2o17bo265bobo4b2o
8b3o24b2o17bo$133bo6bo8bo46b2o264bo6bo8bo46b2o$132b2o7b3o4bobo310b2o7b
3o4bobo$143bo4bobo321bo4bobo$149bo328bo4$204b2o327b2o$133b2o69bo257b2o
69bo$133b2o67bobo257b2o67bobo$202b2o327b2o$169b2o327b2o$169bo328bo$
153b2o15b3o36bo272b2o15b3o36bo$153bobo16bo34b3o272bobo16bo34b3o$62bo
72b2o18bo50bo184bo72b2o18bo50bo$60b3o73bo9b2o7b2o49b2o181b3o73bo9b2o7b
2o49b2o$59bo75bo10b2o240bo75bo10b2o$58bobo74b2o250bobo74b2o$58bobo77b
2o82bo164bobo77b2o82bo$59bo75b2ob2o80b3o165bo75b2ob2o80b3o$136bo82bo
245bo82bo$134bo3b2o79b2o242bo3b2o79b2o$134b4o2bo322b4o2bo$137bobobo83b
2o239bobobo83b2o$43b2o89b2obo2bo18bo66bo145b2o89b2obo2bo18bo66bo$43b2o
90bobo19b3o63b3o146b2o90bobo19b3o63b3o$134bo2b2o17bo66bo239bo2b2o17bo
66bo$134bobo2bobo14b2o40b2o263bobo2bobo14b2o40b2o$135bobo2b2o56bo265bo
bo2b2o56bo$63b2o71bo62b3o190b2o71bo62b3o$63bobo98bo36bo21b2o3b2o162bob
o98bo36bo21b2o3b2o$65bo96b3o58bobobobo164bo96b3o58bobobobo$56b2o7b2o
94bo63bobo157b2o7b2o94bo63bobo$56b2o103b2o44b2o15b2ob2o156b2o103b2o44b
2o15b2ob2o$206bobo326bobo$46bob2o156bo168bob2o156bo$44b3ob2o19bo135b2o
166b3ob2o19bo135b2o$43bo23b3o302bo23b3o$44b3ob2o16bo76b2o228b3ob2o16bo
76b2o$46b2o2bo15b2o75b2o230b2o2bo15b2o75b2o$49bobo118b2o206bobo118b2o$
46b3obobo118bo203b3obobo118bo$45bo2bo2bo90b2o27bob2o46b3o150bo2bo2bo
90b2o27bob2o46b3o$44bobobo24b2o68bo26b2o2bo37b2o8bo150bobobo24b2o68bo
26b2o2bo37b2o8bo$43bobo2b2o22bo2bo64b3o24bo4b2o39bo6b3o149bobo2b2o22bo
2bo64b3o24bo4b2o39bo6b3o$43bobobo2bobo20b2o65bo26b5o38b3o159bobobo2bob
o20b2o65bo26b5o38b3o$44b2ob2o2b2o112b2o4bo38bo162b2ob2o2b2o112b2o4bo
38bo$150b2o14bo2b2o308b2o14bo2b2o$76b2o60b2o9bobo14bobo236b2o60b2o9bob
o14bobo$45bo30bo28bo32bo10bo14bobobo205bo30bo28bo32bo10bo14bobobo$45b
3o29b3o23b3o30bobo9b2o12b3ob2o60b2o144b3o29b3o23b3o30bobo9b2o12b3ob2o
60b2o$48bo30bo22bo33b2o5bo17bo3bo62bobo146bo30bo22bo33b2o5bo17bo3bo62b
obo$47b2o53b2o37b3o17bobobo64bo145b2o53b2o37b3o17bobobo64bo$140bo21bob
o65b2o237bo21bobo65b2o$140b2o21bo305b2o21bo$110b2o15b2o310b2o15b2o$
111bo5b2o8b2o311bo5b2o8b2o$111bob2o3bo321bob2o3bo$103b2o4b3o2bo3bobo
311b2o4b3o2bo3bobo$103b2o3bo3b2o5b2o311b2o3bo3b2o5b2o$53bo18b2o34b4o
108b2o160bo18b2o34b4o108b2o$52bobo5b2o10bo21b2o15bo99b2o7b2o159bobo5b
2o10bo21b2o15bo99b2o7b2o$53bo6b2o11b3o17bobo12b3o101bo169bo6b2o11b3o
17bobo12b3o101bo$75bo17bo13bo104bobo189bo17bo13bo104bobo$86bo5b2o14b5o
100b2o200bo5b2o14b5o100b2o$86b3o23bo302b3o23bo$89bo20bo307bo20bo$88b2o
20b2o305b2o20b2o$106bo328bo$104b3o326b3o$76b2o25bo301b2o25bo$77bo25b2o
111bo189bo25b2o111bo$74b3o3bo5bo128bobo185b3o3bo5bo128bobo$73bo3b4o4bo
bo127b2o185bo3b4o4bobo127b2o$73bobo10b2o12b2o41b2o257bobo10b2o12b2o41b
2o$74b2ob2o20bo2bo40b2o258b2ob2o20bo2bo40b2o$77b2o21b2o304b2o21b2o$74b
2o327b2o$74bo328bo$75bo328bo$74b2o17b2o308b2o17b2o$9bo83bo244bo83bo$9b
3o82b3o241b3o82b3o$12bo63b2o5b2o11bo244bo63b2o5b2o11bo$11b2o62bobo4bo
2bo254b2o62bobo4bo2bo$75bo6bobo3b2o314bo6bobo3b2o$74b2o7bo4bobob2o309b
2o7bo4bobob2o$3b2o74b2o9bobo32bo113b2o91b2o74b2o9bobo32bo113b2o$3bo76b
o8b2o2bo30bobo112b2o91bo76bo8b2o2bo30bobo112b2o$2obo73b3o11b2o31bobo
108b2o92b2obo73b3o11b2o31bobo108b2o$o2b3o4b2o65bo11b2o34bo109b2o92bo2b
3o4b2o65bo11b2o34bo109b2o$b2o3bo3b2o78bo130b2o107b2o3bo3b2o78bo130b2o$
3b4o80b3o131b2o109b4o80b3o131b2o$3bo15b2o66bo244bo15b2o66bo$4b3o12bobo
311b3o12bobo$7bo13bo95b2o13b2o202bo13bo95b2o13b2o$2b5o14b2o93bobo13bob
o196b5o14b2o93bobo13bobo$2bo113bo17bo196bo113bo17bo$4bo110b2o17b2o73b
2o122bo110b2o17b2o73b2o$3b2o204b2o121b2o204b2o$122b2o107b2o218b2o107b
2o$123bo107bo220bo107bo$120b3o109b3o214b3o109b3o$120bo113bo214bo113bo$
228b2o327b2o$228bobo326bobo$230bo328bo$192b2o36b2o289b2o36b2o$192bo3b
2o29bo293bo3b2o29bo$188b2o4bo2bo29b5o285b2o4bo2bo29b5o$183b2o3b2o3b4o
26b2o6bo280b2o3b2o3b4o26b2o6bo$177bob2obobo33bo4b2o4bo276bob2obobo33bo
4b2o4bo$177b2obobo10b2o22bobo9b2o275b2obobo10b2o22bobo9b2o$181b2o10bob
o20bobo291b2o10bobo20bobo$194b2o19bo2bobo302b2o19bo2bobo$215b2o2b4obob
ob2o314b2o2b4obobob2o$223b2ob2obo322b2ob2obo$221bo3bo324bo3bo$221b2obo
2b2o321b2obo2b2o$225b2obo325b2obo$186b2o327b2o$185bo2bo325bo2bo$186b2o
327b2o3$197b2o327b2o$181b2o6bo7bobo310b2o6bo7bobo$181b2o5bobo8bo310b2o
5bobo8bo$189bobob2o4b2o317bobob2o4b2o$187bobobobobo320bobobobobo$183b
2obobobo4bo316b2obobobo4bo$183bob2obobob3o317bob2obobob3o$189b2obo325b
2obo$63bo328bo$61b3o326b3o$60bo328bo$60b2o327b2o7$50b2o327b2o$49bobo5b
2o319bobo5b2o$49bo7b2o319bo7b2o$48b2o327b2o2$62bo328bo$58b2obobo323b2o
bobo$57bobobobo322bobobobo$54bo2bobobobob2o316bo2bobobobob2o$54b4ob2o
2bo2bo316b4ob2o2bo2bo$58bo4b2o322bo4b2o$56bobo326bobo$56b2o327b2o!
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by Period1GliderGun » December 17th, 2024, 4:29 pm

p29 gun partial:

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x = 46, y = 50, rule = B3/S23
34b2o$28bo5b2o$27bobo$28bo3$34b3o2$28b3o4bo5b2o$32bobo7bo$21b5o3bo12b
ob2o$21bo4bo12b2obo2bo$22bo3bo13bob2o$17b2o4b2o13bobobo$17b2o18bo2bo2b
o$31b2o5bo2b2o$25b2o4bo6b2obo$8bo16bo6b3o4bobo$2o6b3o9bo5b3o5bo2bobob
2o$bo17b3o6bo8b2o$bobo7bo6bobobo$2b2o6b3o5bobobo$6bo6bo5b3o$5bo2b2o2b
4o4bo$14b2o$6bo5bo$7bo12bo$8bobo8b3o$8b2o8bobobo$3b2o2b2o9bobobo$3b3o
13b3o6bo8b2o$4b2o14bo5b3o5bo2bobob2o$25bo6b3o4bobo$25b2o4bo6b2obo$31b
2o5bo2b2o$17b2o18bo2bo2bo$17b2o4b2o13bobobo$22bo3bo13bob2o$21bo4bo12b
2obo2bo$21b5o3bo12bob2o$32bobo7bo$28b3o4bo5b2o2$34b3o3$28bo$27bobo$28b
o5b2o$34b2o!
Currently on another planet.

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x = 36, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
23bobo$21bo3bo$13bo7bo$12b4o4bo4bo8b2o$11b2obobo4bo12b2o$2o8b3obo2bo3b
o3bo$2o9b2obobo6bobo$12b4o$13bo!
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by get_Snacked » January 6th, 2025, 7:30 pm

glider_rider wrote:
January 23rd, 2024, 6:47 pm
Speaking of loops, here's a p20:

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x = 33, y = 33, rule = B3/S23
16bo$16b3o$12b2o5bo$12bo5b2o$4bob2ob2obo14b2o$4b2obobobo11bo3bo$10bo
11b2o4bo$17b2o8b2o$7bobo6b3o$5bo2b2o7b4obo4b2o$5bo2b2o8bo4b2obobo$19bo
3b2o2bo$20bo7b3o$2b2o26bo$bobo$bo7bo$2o8bo20b2o$8b3o20bo$24bo4bobo$2bo
20bobo3b2o$2b3o17bo3bo$5bo11b2o3bo3bo$4bobo3bo7b2o2b2ob2o$4b2o4b2o5bo$
12bo$4b2o4b2o$4bo5bo11bo$5bo15bobobob2o$4b2o14bob2ob2obo$13b2o5bo$13bo
5b2o$14b3o$16bo!
maybe?

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x = 17, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
15b2o$15bo$8bo4bobo$7b3o3b2o$6b2ob2o$ob2ob2o3b2o$2obo2b2ob2o4$6bo$5bo
bobob2o$4bob2ob2obo$4bo$3b2o!
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i would appreciate it if someone could use Silk or Barrister on this.
EDIT: previously posted on ODT which was the wrong thread
EDIT II:
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January 7th, 2025, 8:05 am
p35 "92P59 active region" hassler, originally found by P1GG in a 351-cell form (reduced into an unknown-size form two minutes later using a second 34P7 instead of a p7 pipsquirter) and subsequently reduced into the following two forms by me:

p35 form (Using a third 34P7), 131 cells:

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x = 42, y = 34, rule = B3/S23
33bo5b2o$22b2o9b2o4b2o$22b2o11b2o$28bo2b2ob3o2bo$29b3obo2bob3o$30bo2b
3ob2o2bo$33b2o$29b2o4b2o$29b2o5bo$22bo$22bo2$23b3o$6bo5b2o9b3o$7bo4bo
2bo4bo$2b2o2bo12bobo$bo2bobob2o9bo2bo$o4b2o2b2o4bo4b2o$6b2obobo2bo$9bo
2b2o$o2bo4bo9bo$2b2o5bo7b2o3b2o$17b2o3b2o$18bo$17bo2bo$16b3obo$16bo3b
2o$17b2o3bo$18bob3o$18bo2bo$20bo$15b2o3b2o$15b2o3b2o$20bo!
potential for a smaller p35 gun?

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x = 30, y = 35, rule = B3/S23
27b2o$10b2o8b3o4b2o$10b2o4bo6bo$16bo2bobob2o$17b3o6b3o$21b2obobo2bo$9b
ob2o9bo6bo$7b3o7b2o4b3o$7b2o2bo5b2o$6bo3b2o$4b2obobo$2o2b2ob3o$2bob2o
2bo$2o4b3o6bo$7bo5$7bo2bo$11bo$6bo5bo$6b2o4bo$11bo$10bo$9b4obo$9bo3bo
$7bo3bo$6bob4o$10bo$9bo$8bo4b2o$8bo5bo$9bo$10bo2bo!
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by Period1GliderGun » January 10th, 2025, 1:43 pm

p112 gun, by C_R_116 on Discord based on the LoM shuttle:

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x = 43, y = 36, rule = B3/S23
11b2o$11b2o16bo$28bobo$5bo23b2o$4b3o4b2o$3bob3o3bobo$2bo3bo6bo$bo3bo4b
o2bo$3obo27bo$b3o5bo2bo18bobo6bo$2bo6bobo20bo6b3o$10bo7b3o17bob3o$16b
5o8bo7bo3bo$19bobo5b2ob2o4bo3bo$16b3obo6bo4bo2b3obo$17b4o15b3o$28bo8b
o2$b2o2bo24bo2bo$bo2bobo23b2o$2bob2o$3bo$4b2o8b2o$5bo10bo$3bo$3b2o7bo
12b2o$12bobo10b2o$13bo2$24b3o$24b2o$27b2o$26b3o$15bo9bobo$14bo10b2o$14b
3o!
Currently on another planet.

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x = 36, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
23bobo$21bo3bo$13bo7bo$12b4o4bo4bo8b2o$11b2obobo4bo12b2o$2o8b3obo2bo3b
o3bo$2o9b2obobo6bobo$12b4o$13bo!
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by C_R_116 » January 12th, 2025, 9:22 pm

p112 HWSS gun:

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x = 88, y = 44, rule = B3/S23
55b2o$55b2o16bo$49b2o21bobo$73b2o$48bo3bo2b3o$47bo4bo2bo2bo$46bobobo5b
obo$45bobobo7bo$43bo4bo27bo7b2o$20b4o19bo3bo6bo20bobo$19bo7b2o24bobo8b
o11bo6bo3bo$19bo3b2o2b2o16b2o7bo9bo17bo4bo$20bo2b2o38bobo8bo6bobobo$
62bobo9b3o3bobobo$62b3o13bo4bo$63bo14bo3bo2$80b2o$25b3o46b2o$24b2o2bo
45b2o$18b2o3bo4bo$11b2o4bobo4b4o$11b2o5bo6bo2$4b3o12b3o$7bo$3bo3bo3bo
2b2o3bo$2bobo2bo3b5o4b2o$o2bobo6b3o9bo$o3bo18bobo6bo$o9bo12bobo5bobo5b
3o$b3o5bobo20bo9bo$10bo9b2o3bo12bo3bo$18b5o2bo11bobo2bo$17bo5b2o3b2o5b
o2bobo$17bo2bo8bobo3bo3bo8bo2bobo$18b3o9b2o3bo10b2obob3o$12b2o22b3o8bo
6bo$12bobo31b2o5bo$13bo16b2o27b2o$30b2o15bo5b2o3bobo$46bo6bo5bo$47b3ob
ob2o$47bobo2bo!

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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by hotdogPi » January 12th, 2025, 10:07 pm

I've managed to combine the p112 gun with oscillators of periods p21 (336), 32 (224), 42 (336), 126 (1008), 129 (14448), 150 (8400), and 166 (9296). The p8400 and p14448 emit two gliders per cycle in opposite directions, and they're not halfway apart.

The oscillators mentioned above are the ones in User:HotdogPi/3o2$o!, both halves of the page.

p14448 example

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x = 120, y = 37, rule = B3/S23
66b2o$65bo2bo$65bobo$66bob4o9bo$67b2ob2o7b3o$24b2o42bo9bo$20b4o4b2o48b
2o$20b3ob2o2b2o$25bo2$84b2o$83bo2b2o$82b3ob2o$80bobobo3bo$78b2ob8o$80b
o3bo4bo$85b5o$12b2o9b3o36b2o$10bo2bo10bo37b2o21b5o$22b2ob2o58bo4bo3bo$
6bo8bo6b2ob2o59b8ob2o$5b3o14bo63bo3bobobo$4bob3o2bo4bo5bobo2bo47b2o10b
2ob3o$3bo3bo4b2ob2o3b2o4b2o47bo11b2o2bo$2bo3bo7bo5bo2bobo50b3o10b2o25b
2o$b3obo19bo7bo44bo37bobo$2b3o6bo9b2ob2o6bobo6bo76bo$3bo6bobo8b2ob2o5b
o2bo5b3o75b2o$11bo11bo15bob3o51b2o$22b3o5bo2bo4bo3bo53bo$30bo6bo3bo51b
3o$30bobo3b3obo52bo$31b2o4b3o$13b2o23bo$13bobo$14bo16b2o$31b2o!
EDIT: Some of the above also combine with each other, such as LCM(129,150) = 9675, and the LCM(129,21) = 903 below, which is actually smaller than the current 3657-cell bounding box.

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x = 85, y = 32, rule = B3/S23
31b2o$30bo2bo$30bobo$31bo3b2o9bo$32b2obo8b3o$4b2o27bo9bo$4bobo26bo9b2o
$b2obobo$bobobob2o$5bobo33b2o$2b4o2bo13bo9bo8b2o$2bo2b2obo10bo2bo10b2o
$13b3o3bo13b2o3bo$b2o5bo10bobo15bobo$bo3bobo4bo4bo18bo3bo$2bo3bo4b2o4b
o19bobo$4bobo31bo$2b2o2b2o2bo4b2o10b2o47bobo$2bobo2bo3bo4bo10b2o37bo8b
o2bo$b2o3b3o3bo3bo48bobo7bo3bo$obo4b2o5b2o3b2obo41bo3bo6bo2bo$2o5b2o
10b2ob3o40bobo8bobo$25bo14b2o24bo5b2o$19b2ob3o15bo31b2o$11b2o7bobo18b
3o18b2o17b2o$12bo7bobo20bo18b2o17bobo$9b3o9bo61bo$9bo73b2o$60b2o$61bo$
58b3o$58bo!
EDIT 2: This p266 can be combined with some dominoes. p126 shown (×9=2394); p112 (×8=2128) also works. If the GCD is 1 or 2, it fails.

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x = 110, y = 44, rule = B3/S23
52b2o$30bo22bo$29bobo4b2o14bo$29bobo4b2o14b2o11bo$27b3ob2o12bo4b2o11b
3o$26bo16b3o3bo2b2o8bo$27b3ob2o9bo7bobo9b2o$29bob2o9b2o5b2obobo4bo7b2o
$49bo3b2o3bobo6bo$47bobo7bo2bo4bobo$47b2o9b2o5b2o8b2o5b3o9bo$29bo8b2o
36bo15b3o6b2o3bo$27b3o8b2o36bobo12bo9bobobobo$26bo50b2o12b2o10bob2o$
26b2o27b3o44bobo$7b2o5bo40b4o43bobob3o$7b2o5b3o36bob3obo29b2o12b2obo2b
o$17bo34b2o4bo22bo7b2o17b2o$16b2o33bo28bobo$46b2o4b2o13bo13b2o2b3o$35b
3o8b2o5bo9b2o2bo16bo3bo$37bo21bob3obo18bo3bo$29b4o3bo22bob2o2bo18bo3bo
$28b2o30bo3bo20b3o$27b2obo2bo41b2o$28bobob2o17b2o22b2o$29b2obo18bo49bo
$30b2o20b3o5b2o37bobo$54bo5b2o38bobo$41b2o45b2o10bo$42bo45bo$29b2o8b3o
47b3o$29b2o8bo51bo$2b2o5b2o9b2o$bobo4bo2bo7bobo$bo6bobo3b2o3bo$2o7bo4b
obob2o5b2o9b2obo$5b2o9bobo7bo9b2ob3o$6bo8b2o2bo3b3o16bo$3b3o11b2o4bo
12b2ob3o$3bo11b2o14b2o4bobo$16bo14b2o4bobo$15bo22bo$15b2o!
p448; 32 is a factor so it happens every cycle; LCM(448,45)=20160 also works, as do several others

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x = 81, y = 66, rule = B3/S23
46b3o3b3o$45bo3bobo3bo$45bo3bobo3bo$44bob4ob4obo$44b2o9b2o9b2o$66b2o2$
48b2ob2o$47bobobobo12bo$48bo3bo12b3o11b2o$14bo6bo42bo3bo$8b2o3b2o7bo
41b2ob2o$8b2o3bobo5b2o$14b3obo$16b3o2$16b3o$14b3obo35b2ob2o$6bob2o3bob
o5b2o31bo3bo$4b3ob2o3b2o7bo19b2o11b3o12bo3bo$3bo10bo6bo34bo12bobobobo$
3b2o26b2o6b3o28b2ob2o$31b3o$2o6b2o8b2o9bo4b4o3bo13b2o$obo6bo8bobo8bo2b
o4bo17b2o4bo4b2o9b2o$b2o6bobo8bo8bo2bob2o23b3o4bob4ob4obo$10b2o5b2o4bo
6b2o6bo19bo8bo3bobo3bo$16b3obo3bo7bo3b2o20b2o7bo3bobo3bo$16b2o3bo2bo7b
o3bo5bo25b3o3b3o$2b2o11b2o5b3o8b3o5bobo11b2o$2b2o12b2o2b3o18bobo11bobo
$bo18b2o20bo13b2o$3o2$33b2o$5b3o25b2o23bo$6bo50b2o$4b2o50bo4bo$4b2o50b
o4bo$56bo$48bo3bo8bo3b2o$44b2o2bo7bo4bo$5b2o37b2o2bobo5bo4bo$5bobo35b
2o14b2o$6b2o51bo$43b2o$3b2o39bo2b2o$4bo46b2o$b3o47bobo6b2o$bo51bo6bobo
$53b2o6b2o$45bo$44bo2bo10b2o$41b2o5bo10bo$40bo8bo3b2ob3o$40bo8bo3b2obo
$41bob2ob3o$45b2o2$45b2o$41bob2ob3o$40bo8bo3b2o$40bo8bo3b2o$41b2o5bo$
44bo2bo$45bo!
User:HotdogPi/My discoveries

Periods discovered:

All evens ≤128 except 52,58,78,82,92,94,98,104,118,122

5-15,㉕-㉛,㉟㊺,51,63,65,73,75
1㊳㊵㊹㊼㊽,54,56,72,74,80,90,92
217,240,300,486,576

Guns: 20,21,32,54,55,57,114,117,124,126
SKOPs: 32,74,76,102,196

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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by Period1GliderGun » January 14th, 2025, 1:26 pm

Here's another potential angle of attack for the p38 gun:

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x = 40, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
3b2o$3bo5b2o16b2o$4b3obobo4b2o4b2o4bobob2obo$6bobo5bo8bo5bobob2o$7b2o
4b2o2bo2bo2b2o4b2o$13bo4b2o4bo$2o10bo4bo2bo4bo$2o11bobo2b2o2bobo12b3o
$4b3o7b3o4b3o7b3o2b3o$3bo3bo8bo4bo8bo3bo$3bo3bo8bob2obo8bo3bo$3bo3bo22b
o3bo$4b3o24b3o2b3o$3o34b3o$14b2o6b2o$14b2o6b2o!
Currently on another planet.

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x = 36, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
23bobo$21bo3bo$13bo7bo$12b4o4bo4bo8b2o$11b2obobo4bo12b2o$2o8b3obo2bo3b
o3bo$2o9b2obobo6bobo$12b4o$13bo!
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by Timelord Missionary » January 26th, 2025, 3:34 am

p118 double-barreled gun by me and C_R_118:

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x = 124, y = 99, rule = B3/S23
9$83b2o$83b2o3$82bo$81bobo16bo$82bo18bo$79b3o19bo$79bo13b3o13bo$92bob
2o13bobo$81b2o8bo16bobo$80bo10bo2b4o5b2o5bo$83bo7bo5bo4bo2bo$81b2o13b
o6b2o$93b3o2$80bo$79bobo$80bo4$97bo$96bobo$97bo2$82b3o$73b2o6bo13b2o$
72bo2bo4bo5bo7bo$67bo5b2o5b4o2bo10bo$67bobo16bo8b2o$43b2o21bobo13b2ob
o$42b2o24bo13b3o13bo$44bo31bo19b3o$76bo18bo$77bo16bobo$95bo$75b2o$73b
3ob2o$73bobob2o14b2o$71b2obo18b2o2$35b2o33bo$35b2o$35b2o$34b2o$34b2o$
33bobo$34bo3bo4bo$31b3o5b2obobo4bo$31bo10bobo2b2obo11bo$42b3ob2o2bo9b
2o$33bo9b2ob2obo12b2o$33b2o7b3o2bo7b2o4bo$33b2o6bo3bo8bo2bo$34bo5bo4b
o9b2o$40b2o4bo$39b3o7bo$32bo15b2o$31bobo$32bo4$49bo$48bobo$32b2o15bo$
32bo7b3o$35bo4b2o$25b2o9bo4bo5bo$24bo2bo8bo3bo6b2o$20bo4b2o7bo2b3o7b2o
$18b2o12bob2ob2o9bo$20b2o9bo2b2ob3o$19bo11bob2o2bobo10bo$32bo4bobob2o
5b3o$38bo4bo3bo$46bobo$46b2o$46b2o$45b2o$45b2o$45b2o!
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by Period1GliderGun » January 30th, 2025, 11:32 pm

Smaller p76 gun (4410 -> 2100):

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x = 50, y = 42, rule = B3/S23
5b2o13b3o$6b3o13bo$4bo4bo11bo$2obob5o3bo$2obobo2b2o3b3o$3bo2b4o3bo$3b
3o3bo15b2o$b2o3b3o16b2o$obo2bo$obobobo$bobobo9bo14b2o$3bo11bo5b2o7bob
o$2bo2bo7b3o4b3o9bo$2bo9b2ob2o3bo2bo7b2ob2obo$2bo3bo8b2o3bo13bob2o$2b
o11b3o5bo11bo$2bo2bo3b2o8bobo3b2o6b2o$3bo5bobo8bo4b2o$bobobo4bo$obob2o
$obo$b2o$42bo$26b2o4bo8bobo3bo$18b2o6b2o3bobo8b2o3bobo$18bo11bo5b3o7b
obo$15b2obo13bo3b2o10bo$15bob2ob2o7bo2bo3b2ob2o$20bo9b3o4b3o$20bobo7b
2o5bo8b2o$21b2o14bo8bobo$48bo$48b2o2$26b2o$26b2o$37b2o$37bobo$25b2o12b
o$26bo4b2o6b2o$23b3o5b2o$23bo!
A p4 variant of 33P3 could work to reduce by a row, but I'm lazy. There also may be smaller p4s for the top.

EDIT: Partial for a smaller p78: no sparkers that I can find work and/or fit:

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x = 30, y = 36, rule = B3/S23
25bo$12b2o9b3o$13bo8bo$13bobo6b2o$14b2o3bo$18bobo$17bo2bo7b2o$18b2o4b
2o2bo$8bo15bo4bo$25b5o$8b3o$7bo3bo15b3o$10b2o14bo2bo$7b3o17b2o$13b3o$
13b3o$16bo$10b2o3b2o$10b2o3b2o$11b2ob2o$8bo4b2o$8bo7bo$b2o$o2bo7b2o4b
o$3o8b2o3bo$15bo$5o$o4bo$bo2b2o5bo$2o8b2o$9b2o8b2o$14b2o3b2o$6b2o6bob
o$7bo8bo$4b3o9b2o$4bo!
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x = 36, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
23bobo$21bo3bo$13bo7bo$12b4o4bo4bo8b2o$11b2obobo4bo12b2o$2o8b3obo2bo3b
o3bo$2o9b2obobo6bobo$12b4o$13bo!
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by LWSSONHWSSONLWSS » January 31st, 2025, 10:12 am

Period1GliderGun wrote:
January 30th, 2025, 11:32 pm
EDIT: Partial for a smaller p78: no sparkers that I can find work and/or fit:

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-rlesnip-
StateInvestigator solution:

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x = 30, y = 36, rule = B3/S23Investigator
25.A$12.2A9.3A$13.A8.A$13.A.A6.2A$14.2A3.A$18.A.A$17.A2.A7.2A$18.2A4.
2A2.A$8.J15.A4.A$25.5A$8.3A$7.A3.A15.3A$10.2A14.A2.A$7.3A17.2A$13.3A$
13.3A$16.A$10.2A3.2A$10.2A3.2A$11.2A.2A$8.A4.2A$8.A7.A$.2A$A2.A7.2A4.
A$3A8.2A3.A$15.A$5A$A4.A$.A2.2A5.A$2A8.2A$9.2A8.2A$14.2A3.2A$6.2A6.A.
A$7.A8.A$4.3A9.2A$4.A!
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by Period1GliderGun » January 31st, 2025, 11:08 pm

Smaller p63 gun, right on the heels of the p76 (1020 vs. 1980 EDIT: 1764)

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x = 33, y = 30, rule = B3/S23
7b2o$5b3o$2o2bo4bo$o3bob2ob3o$b3obobo4bo$3bobo3b3o$3bobobobo$4b2ob2o3$
24bo5b2o$7b2o15b2o4b2o$4b2ob2o17b2o$6bob2o9bo2b2ob3o2bo$9b3o8b3obo2bo
b3o$9b2ob2o7bo2b3ob2o2bo$14bo9b2o$10b2ob2o5b2o4b2o$o8bo4bo5b2o5bo$obo
6b2ob2o$2o7bo3bo$10b3o5b2o$18b2o4b2o$4b2o17bob2ob2o$5bo15b3obob4o$2b3o
5b2o$2bo7b2o5b4obob3o$18b2ob2obo$22b2o4b2o$28b2o!
It was found by de-dependenting a p63 glider loop from sometime in 2023.
Last edited by Period1GliderGun on January 31st, 2025, 11:43 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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x = 36, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
23bobo$21bo3bo$13bo7bo$12b4o4bo4bo8b2o$11b2obobo4bo12b2o$2o8b3obo2bo3b
o3bo$2o9b2obobo6bobo$12b4o$13bo!
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by hotcrystal0 » January 31st, 2025, 11:16 pm

Period1GliderGun wrote:
January 31st, 2025, 11:08 pm
Smaller p63 gun, right on the heels of the p76 (1020 vs. 1980)

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x = 33, y = 30, rule = B3/S23
7b2o$5b3o$2o2bo4bo$o3bob2ob3o$b3obobo4bo$3bobo3b3o$3bobobobo$4b2ob2o3$
24bo5b2o$7b2o15b2o4b2o$4b2ob2o17b2o$6bob2o9bo2b2ob3o2bo$9b3o8b3obo2bo
b3o$9b2ob2o7bo2b3ob2o2bo$14bo9b2o$10b2ob2o5b2o4b2o$o8bo4bo5b2o5bo$obo
6b2ob2o$2o7bo3bo$10b3o5b2o$18b2o4b2o$4b2o17bob2ob2o$5bo15b3obob4o$2b3o
5b2o$2bo7b2o5b4obob3o$18b2ob2obo$22b2o4b2o$28b2o!
Old one for reference:

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#CSYNTH gun_63 costs 1764 cells.
#C period 63 fullperiod 63 bbox 49 by 36
#CLL state-numbering golly
x = 49, y = 36, rule = LifeHistory
11.B2AB6.A$11.4A2B4.3A7.2A$10.AB2AB2AB6.A6.A3.2A$8.3A.2BABAB5.2A8.
A2.A$7.A3.AB.ABAB5.4B5.2A.A8.2A$7.5A.3A2B7.BAB2.2BA2.4A6.A$8.BABA.
ABAB7.BABA.3B3A3.AB5.A.2A$7.2B3A.5A3.2A.B2A2B.2BA.B4A3B2.2A2.A$7.B
ABA.BA3.A3.2A7B2.2A.A.BA4BA2.2A$7.BABA2B.3A5.7B4.A.2A2BA2B4A$7.B2A
B2ABA7.7B4.A.A.A2.A.B2.A$8.2B4A9.6B5.2A.4A.A.A$2A8.B2AB6.10B6.A4.
2A.2A$A.A11.4B2.5B2.4B5.A.2A$.AB2.8B.10B4.4B3.2A.A$2.6B3A2B2A8B6.
2BAB5.A$2.6B4A2BA7B8.2B2A4.2A$.6BA2B4A7B10.2A2B$.6B2A2B3A5B.B2.2A
7.4B$2.6B.8B2.B2A.BA8.4B$4.4B11.B3A11.4B$8.B10.A3B4A8.4B$6.B3AB8.
3B.B2.A9.4B$2.B3.4AB6.A5B3A11.4B$.2AB.AB2ABA6.AB.A.AB14.4B$.2A2B2A
3BAB6.A5.2A13.4B$2.B.2B2AB2.A3.3A7.A14.4B$6.B4A4.A8.A16.4B$24.2A
16.4B$6.B4A32.4B$2.B.2B2AB2.A32.4B$.2A2B2A3BAB33.3BA$.2AB.AB2ABA
35.ABA$2.B3.4AB36.2A$6.B3AB37.B$8.B!
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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!

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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by Sokwe » February 5th, 2025, 10:41 am

ElijahKen wrote:
February 1st, 2025, 11:14 pm
Gun 57 continues to frustrate me. Here is a very close partial (the beehive just needs to be restored):

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x = 54, y = 35, rule = B3/S23
30b2o5b2o3b2o$28bo2bo5bo4bobo3bo$38b3obo2bobobo$40bob4ob2o$28b2o12bo$
41bobo3b4o$40b3ob3o4bo$34bo5bobo2b4obobo$32b2o5b2o9bobo$26b3o2b3o6bob
2o2bobo3b2o$26b2o2b3o6bobob3o4bo$14bo12bo2bo8bo4bo4bo$7b2o3b5o7bo2bo4b
obo3b2o2bobo2bobobo$8bo2bo5bo5bo2bobo3bo5b2o2bob4o2bobo$8bobob2ob2o7bo
bo5b3o3b2o2bo5bobobo$6b2o2bobobo23b2o2bob2o2bo2bo$5bobobo4bo24bo4bobob
o$2bo2bo2b2obo2b2o23bobobo2b2o$bobobo5bo2b2o3b3o5bobo7b2ob2obobo$bobo
2b4obo2b2o5bo3bobo2bo5bo5bo2bo$2bobobo2bobo2b2o3bobo4bo2bo7b5o3b2o$4bo
4bo4bo8bo2bo12bo$3bo4b3obobo6b3o2b2o$2o3bobo2b2obo6b3o2b3o$bobo9b2o5b
2o$bobob4o2bobo5bo$2bo4b3ob3o$3b4o3bobo$11bo$5b2ob5o7b2o2bo$6bobo3bo8b
3o$6bo3b2o10bo$7b3o8b2o$9bo7bo2bo$18b2o!
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Here is a solution that is quite a bit smaller than the existing p57 gun:

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x = 55, y = 50, rule = B3/S23
31b2o5b2o3b2o$31b2o5bo4bobo3bo$39b3obo2bobobo$41bo2b3ob2o$42bo$44b2ob
5o$42b2o8bo$40b2obo2bo2b3obo$46b2obobobo$40bo3bob2ob2o2b2o$41b2ob2o4b
2o$15bo24bobo7bo$13b5o10bobo9b2obobo2bobobo$7b2o3bo5bo9bo11bo2bob4o2bo
bo$7bobobobob3o8bo5bo7bo2bo5bobobo$9bobobo13b4obo7b2obob2o2bo2bo$8bobo
b2obo10bo2bo10bob2obobobo$4b2obo2bobob2o7bob4o13bobo2b2o$5bob3o2bo2bo
7bo5bo8b3obobobo$4bo5bobo2bo11bo9bo5bo2bo$4bob2o2b3ob2o9bobo10b5o3b2o$
3b2obo2bo3bobo24bo$10bo2b2o$3b3o2b2o4bo$obo2bo3bob2o$2ob2o2bobo3b2obo$
3bobo3b4o3bo$3bobob2o8bo$2b2o6b7o$5b5o$2b2o6b2obobobo$bo2b2o3b2o2bo2bo
b2o$b2obob4o6b2o$2bob2o2bo3b3obo3b2o5bo$2bo2bob2o2bo5bobo8b2o$ob2obobo
3b5obob2o2bo3b2o$2o2bo4bobob2o8bo$3bo4b2obobo3bob2o2bo$3o7bo4bobobobo$
o9bobob2obo3bo2bo$7b2obo6b7obob2o$8bo2b2ob3o2bo5bobo$8bo5b2o2b2o2bob2o
2bo$9b4o9b2o2b3o$11bob6ob2o3bo$15bo2bo7bo$20b7o$19b2o21bo$23b2o18bo$
23b2o16b3o!
I found it by first finding a p3 reaction that could replace the beehive. I then used a little Python script I wrote to convert the JLS save file to a LLS input file, and completed the search with LLS.

I suspect it can be reduced somewhat with an alternate p3. I might look for a smaller solution later. Anyone else is welcome to try in the meantime.

Here is the previous gun_57 for reference:

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x = 63, y = 66, rule = B3/S23
20b2o3b2o5b2o15b2o$15bo3bobo4bo5b2o14bo2bo$14bobobo2bob3o21bo2b2o2bo2b
o$15b2ob4obo24b2o2b6o$21bo29b2o5b2o$13b4o3bobo25b2o3b4o2bo$12bo4b3ob3o
24b2obobobob2o$11bobob4o2bobo24b2o5bobo$11bobo9b2o23b2ob3obobo$10b2o3b
obo2b2obo25b2o6b2o$13bo4b3obobo27b2ob2o$14bo4bo4bo22b6o4b2o$6b2o4bobob
o2bobo2b2o5b3o14bo4b3obobo$6bo4bobo2b4obo2b2o5bo2bo12b4obob2o3bo$8bobo
2bobo5bo2b2o4bo3bo14b2o8bob2o$7b3o3bobo2b2obo2b2o5bo2bo13b2o4b5obobo$
6bo5b2obobobo4bo6bobo6bobo6bo8bobo$5bob2obo3bo2bo2bobobo14bo2bo5b2o2b
2o2b3o2bo$2bo2bo5b3o3b2obob2ob2o12bo3bo4b2o2b2obo2bob2o$bobobobobo9bob
o5bo11bo2bo5b2o2b2obo2bobo$2b2obobo4b2o5bobob5o12b3o5b2o2b2o2b3obo$6b
2obo3bo2b2ob2obo26bo8bob2o$2b2o2b2o2bo2bobo2bo3bob2o22b2o4b5o$bobo2bo
3b4ob2o2b3o2bobo22b2o8b3o$o2bobo3b2o6b2o5bobo20b4obob2o2bo3bo$5ob2obo
2b4o3bo3b2ob2o20bo4b3ob2ob3o$5b2o3bo6b2obo12b2o12bo2b2obo4b3o$2b2o2b4o
8bobo2b2ob2o5b2o13bo2b3obo2b3o$2bo5bob8o2bobobob2o23b2o3bo$obo9b4o2bob
obo11b2o17b2o2bo$2o16bobob2o8b2o2bo9b2o5bo$19bo11bo5bo8b2o4b2o3b3ob2o$
31bo2b2o2bo16b2o2b2obo$31b3ob2ob2o$25b2o9bo2bo$13bobo9bo10b2obo$2o10bo
2bo7bobo11b2o6b2o3b2o$2o10bo2bo7b2o20bobo2b2o$13b2o31b2o2$46b2o3b2o$
46bo4bo$47bo4b3o$18b2o26b2o6bo$17bo2bo$17bo2bo$17bobo3$37bo$38b2o$2bo
8bobo10bobo10b2o$bobob4o2b3obob4obob2obo$o2bob5obob12o9bo$obo6bobob2o
8b2obo5b3o$b2obobobo2bo14b3o2bo3b2o$3b2o3bob2obo3b4o3bo2b2obo2b2o2bo$
3bob2obobobo4b4o4b3ob3o3b2o$2b2obo6b2obo6bob2o3bo3b2o$3bob4obob2obo2b
2o2bob2o2b5o2b2o$3bobo4bo4bobo2bobo4bo5b2o2bo$2b2o2b4ob2o2bobo2bob2o2b
2obo2bobob2o$4bobo2bobo3b7o3b2o3bob3o$4b2o6b3o7b3o3b2o5b2obo13bo$14bob
5obo2b3obob3obob2o14bo$15bobo2b2o3bo4bobobo16b3o!
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