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Re: Thread for your miscellaneous posts and discussions

Post by confocaloid » February 1st, 2025, 1:02 pm

Even if a big pattern "fits in LifeViewer", please consider attaching it as an attachment file, instead of posting the RLE.

Two advantages of an attachment is that
(1) you can see the number of downloads,
(2) people quoting your post will not accidentally quote the entire big pattern --> less unnecessary duplication of content and less vertical distance to scroll for every reader of the forum thread.
FWKnightship wrote:
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31c/240 spaceship, 62887 cells:

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x = 16023, y = 14960, rule = B3/S23
dvgrn wrote:
January 31st, 2025, 9:43 am
FWKnightship wrote:
January 31st, 2025, 8:37 am
31c/240 spaceship, 62887 cells...
Wow. Finally, a self-supporting spaceship that fits in LifeViewer! [...]
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Why the Conwaylife Skyscraper fell

Post by hotcrystal0 » February 1st, 2025, 2:35 pm

It simply succumbed to the same fate as 1000 Signs. At first, everything was going smoothly. You could say everyone was following unwritten rules. But then people realized that all you really had to do was include a floor number at some point, and that’s how it devolved from its former glory to simply “random posts but include a floor number”. People started making floors that are complete nonsense, for example.

I also believe that we should have the right to see the new location indefinitely. I know Sokwe does not want to advertise unrelated websites, but I will provide the link indefinitely. I will also preserve the first and last posts as they appear now here (Sokwe, feel free to remove this part if you want):
lllllllllwith10ls wrote:
May 13th, 2020, 1:56 pm
A skyscraper built as weirdly as possible. Each person adds a floor of the skyscraper.

Floor 0 contains people mad that this skyscraper is zero-indexed.

Edit by Sokwe: this topic has been locked. If you wish to continue this discussion, you can do so here (this link will be removed after a few weeks).
Sokwe wrote:
December 27th, 2024, 9:34 pm
I locked this topic, because it was simply another random posts topic. Please do not create random post topics.

If you wish to continue this discussion, you can do so here (this link will be removed after a few weeks).
Last edited by hotcrystal0 on February 1st, 2025, 5:26 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!

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Re: Thread for your miscellaneous posts and discussions

Post by hotdogPi » February 1st, 2025, 5:03 pm

confocaloid wrote:
February 1st, 2025, 1:02 pm
Even if a big pattern "fits in LifeViewer", please consider attaching it as an attachment file, instead of posting the RLE.

Two advantages of an attachment is that
(1) you can see the number of downloads,
(2) people quoting your post will not accidentally quote the entire big pattern --> less unnecessary duplication of content and less vertical distance to scroll for every reader of the forum thread.
Most people won't even see the pattern at all if it's an attachment.
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Re: Thread for your miscellaneous posts and discussions

Post by confocaloid » February 1st, 2025, 5:21 pm

hotdogPi wrote:
February 1st, 2025, 5:03 pm
confocaloid wrote:
February 1st, 2025, 1:02 pm
Even if a big pattern "fits in LifeViewer", please consider attaching it as an attachment file, instead of posting the RLE. [...][...]
Most people won't even see the pattern at all if it's an attachment.
I think simply seeing the pattern (in LifeViewer) doesn't suffice anyway, for patterns of that size (hundreds or thousands cells times hundreds or thousands of cells).
For example, I cannot comfortably view the new spaceship in LifeViewer in the browser. I cannot run it and see how it moves. Simply to be able to view how the spaceship moves, I already need to load it into Golly.

I think an attachment would work much better in this case, and in other similar cases. Those people who would like to run/study/modify the spaceship, will likely need to load it into Golly anyway (and above I mentioned what I consider objective advantages of an attached file over a very long RLE snippet).
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Re: Thread for your miscellaneous posts and discussions

Post by wwei47 » February 1st, 2025, 8:37 pm

hotdogPi wrote:
February 1st, 2025, 8:19 pm
Same or different?

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x = 40, y = 36, rule = DoubleB3S23
21.2C$20.C2.C$19.C.C.C$18.3C.C$18.3C$30.2C$30.C$28.C.C$10.2A10.3C3.2C
$9.A2.A8.C3.C$9.A10.C5.C$9.A2.A8.C3.C$3.3A3.2A.2A8.3C$3.3A4.A2.A$3.3A
5.A.A$3A9.A8.A8.A$3A13.2B2.A.A6.A.A$3A6.A6.BC4.A7.A6.3A$8.A.A6.A.A17.
3A$9.A8.A.B6.A9.3A$20.2B4.A.A5.3A$19.2B.B3.A2.A4.3A$15.3AB2.3B2.2A.2A
3.3A$14.A2.BAB.B5.A2.A$13.A2.B.BAB9.A$14.C2B.AB7.A2.A$10.2A3.CACB9.2A
$9.A.A4.2B$9.A7.B2.2A.2A$8.2A7.A.A.2A.A$16.A.2A$14.3A3.A.2A$13.A3.3A
3.A$14.3A3.3A$16.A2.A$19.2A!

Might the idea of a "pattern complex" (ew this name is so bad) apply here? I am taking inspiration from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Species_complex.
EDIT: Hopefully this is the start of something.
https://gitlab.com/xp2-ca/formalism-notes/-/tree/main
Edit 2:
amling wrote:
February 3rd, 2025, 1:51 pm
Unfortunately the only computer-adjudicable (by me) definition of connectedness is probably too lax, counting e.g. LWSS-on-LWSS as connected due to the overpopulation birth suppression they are connected(ish) by. As a result these results are drowning in various nominally connected *WSS flotillae. I skimmed them anyway by eye, but it's very hard to make sense of quickly. I see a lot of things that are known but e.g. this pop 32 weirdo I could not find in jslife-moving:

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#C [[ TRACK 0 -1/2 ]]
x = 12, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
3o$o2bo5b3o$o7bo2bo$o3bo6bo$o3bo2bo3bo$o4bo5bo$bo3b2obobo$5bo$5bo$5bo$
5bo$2bobo!
Unfortunately I'm sort of out of ideas about how to make anything more useful of this.
I am genuinely shocked that this didn't show up in my own searches back in 2022. I still hope that that collection of mine can one day be maintained again.
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Re: Thread for your miscellaneous posts and discussions

Post by b-engine » February 7th, 2025, 12:20 am

confocaloid wrote:
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...
Many people are tired for some reason or another. I think many people visit these forums because they're tired and they would like to participate in some constructive activity that is different from their usual life.

I also think it's safe to say that many readers of these forums are tired of repeatedly seeing unnecessarily very long quotes that are followed by short chatty replies. In many such cases, the short reply doesn't contribute much to the discussion, does not add to knowledge or understanding.
...
In this case "tired" is the type of "tried". The autocorrect doesn't response because "tired" is a valid word.

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Re: Why the Conwaylife Skyscraper fell

Post by hotcrystal0 » February 8th, 2025, 11:32 am

hotcrystal0 wrote:
February 1st, 2025, 2:35 pm
It simply succumbed to the same fate as 1000 Signs. At first, everything was going smoothly. You could say everyone was following unwritten rules. But then people realized that all you really had to do was include a floor number at some point, and that’s how it devolved from its former glory to simply “random posts but include a floor number”. People started making floors that are complete nonsense, for example.
Now, even if we were to reopen it by correcting course with rules, the normal "all posts must be CA-related and no posts about other users" does not work well for this thread.
One idea I have is that "floors" posted onto the thread must be related to CA or an adjacent topic (mathematics, computer science, and programming), however the wiki pages for the skyscraper will still allow off-topic floors. Alternatively, only one floor in the post needs to be CA-related, but people must still remember all the forum rules (thus, no more nonsensical posts).
Although Sokwe thinks since it has been going on for a long time, correcting course with rules wouldn't work, I believe we can try one more time. Testing Grounds does not follow the rule, but I think if people know that the skyscraper thread will be locked again if they don't follow them, they will follow the rules.
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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!

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Re: Why the Conwaylife Skyscraper fell

Post by wwei47 » February 8th, 2025, 11:52 am

hotcrystal0 wrote:
February 8th, 2025, 11:32 am
Although Sokwe thinks since it has been going on for a long time, correcting course with rules wouldn't work, I believe we can try one more time. Testing Grounds does not follow the rule, but I think if people know that the skyscraper thread will be locked again if they don't follow them, they will follow the rules.
What if this skyscraper is like "extend the pattern" but you can only extend upwards, the way that you stack floors in an IRL skyscraper?
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Re: Why the Conwaylife Skyscraper fell

Post by confocaloid » February 8th, 2025, 12:09 pm

"No Life/CA explorer ever steps in the same forum thread twice, for it is not the same thread and they are not the same person." (unknown source)

In the event that an attempt to recreate a previously-locked forum thread will not be quickly locked as well, either way the new thread almost certainly will be worse than the original thread.

Which probably means that it's best to avoid even trying to recreate previously-locked threads, and it makes sense to quickly lock/delete any such attempts as misguided/unproductive activity.
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Failure to do so will require initiation of Procedure 198/078 "Du sublime au ridicule".
hotdogPi wrote:
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Tier 1: constructive discussion about CA
Tier 2: everything else, including this thread
hotcrystal0 wrote:
February 8th, 2025, 11:32 am
[...] Now, even if we were to reopen it by correcting course with rules, [...]
[...] try one more time. [...]
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Re: Thread for your miscellaneous posts and discussions

Post by confocaloid » February 10th, 2025, 4:29 pm

wwei47 wrote:
February 1st, 2025, 8:37 pm
[...]
EDIT: Hopefully this is the start of something.
https://gitlab.com/xp2-ca/formalism-notes/-/tree/main
[...]

... (README.txt) ...
Some thoughts about formalism (or lack thereof)

I like to distinguish between cells and their states. I think the distinction is helpful. I believe making the distinction between cells and their states visible improves clarity. (For example in CGoL, a cell may be dead or alive, or the cell's current state may be unspecified/unknown.)

As a consequence, I like to distinguish between (1) the neighbourhood of a cell and (2) a specific 3x3 configuration (a specific assignment of current states to the neighbours).

In CGoL, the neighbourhood of every cell is always the Moore neighbourhood, no exceptions; and it always includes precisely eight other cells.
Although there are many possibilities for the assignment of states to those cells. There are 512 possible 3x3 configurations. How many "essentially different" possibilities of course depends on how exactly one decides to count them and what "essentially different" means. This leads to the concept of an equivalence relation, as in "these two 3x3 configurations are equivalent up to rotations and reflections".
  • For Life-like cellular automata, this naturally leads to the 18 equivalence classes of 3x3 configurations (two possibilities for the middle cell times 9 possibilities for the number of alive neighbours).
  • For isotropic not-necessarily-outer-totalistic two-state CA with Moore neighbourhood, this leads to 102 equivalence classes of 3x3 configurations (two possibilities for the middle cell times 51 possibilities for its "current environment").
  • For arbitrary two-state CA with Moore neighbourhood, this leads to 512 equivalence classes, each of which contains only one 3x3 configuration.
At different time in CA-related discussions (including these forums and "external" discussions), people were referring to (what amounts to) such equivalence classes of 3x3 configurations as 'conditions'. I like this choice of wording, and I unambiguously prefer this wording, because it matches the intuition. Indeed, in a phrase such as "the condition of a cell", the word 'condition' reads as "the circumstances or factors affecting the cell". This reading correctly matches the underlying idea. Saying that a cell is currently dead and has precisely three alive neighbours does in fact tell "the circumstances or factors affecting the cell".

Of course it is also shorter to write "the condition of a cell" instead of "the equivalence class of 3x3 configurations to which the cell's 'current environment' belongs", but that isn't the primary advantage. (I would accept long verbose wording, if it was clearer and more intuitive compared to one or two words.)
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Re: Thread for your miscellaneous posts and discussions

Post by wwei47 » February 10th, 2025, 11:12 pm

confocaloid wrote:
February 10th, 2025, 4:29 pm
wwei47 wrote:
February 1st, 2025, 8:37 pm
[...]
EDIT: Hopefully this is the start of something.
https://gitlab.com/xp2-ca/formalism-notes/-/tree/main
[...]

... (README.txt) ...
Some thoughts about formalism (or lack thereof)

I like to distinguish between cells and their states. I think the distinction is helpful. I believe making the distinction between cells and their states visible improves clarity. (For example in CGoL, a cell may be dead or alive, or the cell's current state may be unspecified/unknown.)
I have seen this distinction before, in the context of the JLS source code. Here, a cell can be "assigned" multiple variables; each variable represents the state of a cell at given point of time. I will say that the formalisms I listed were pretty much assembled "on demand"; this distinction never really came up so I never ended up needing to formalize this.
confocaloid wrote:
February 10th, 2025, 4:29 pm

As a consequence, I like to distinguish between (1) the neighbourhood of a cell and (2) a specific 3x3 configuration (a specific assignment of current states to the neighbours).

In CGoL, the neighbourhood of every cell is always the Moore neighbourhood, no exceptions; and it always includes precisely eight other cells.
Although there are many possibilities for the assignment of states to those cells. There are 512 possible 3x3 configurations. How many "essentially different" possibilities of course depends on how exactly one decides to count them and what "essentially different" means. This leads to the concept of an equivalence relation, as in "these two 3x3 configurations are equivalent up to rotations and reflections".
Yes; you're definitely right on both counts here. So far, I have only been working with fixed neighborhoods, and as such I just stuck the name of "neighborhood" onto the variable that contained the neighborhood configuration, and didn't think about it past that. I have been hoping to eventually create an engine that could work with many different neighborhoods, and if you hadn't pointed this out now, I likely would have had a nasty variable naming issue when I eventually got there.

As for the equivalence conditions: I prefer to go for the subset approach instead. When I see "equivalence class/relation", I immediately tend to think that there's going to be some other neighborhood configuration that we're going to compare against. Of course, here we only care about which equivalence class a given neighborhood configuration falls into, and so I find it more useful to think in terms of partitioning the entire neighborhood configuration space into subsets.
confocaloid wrote:
February 10th, 2025, 4:29 pm
  • For Life-like cellular automata, this naturally leads to the 18 equivalence classes of 3x3 configurations (two possibilities for the middle cell times 9 possibilities for the number of alive neighbours).
  • For isotropic not-necessarily-outer-totalistic two-state CA with Moore neighbourhood, this leads to 102 equivalence classes of 3x3 configurations (two possibilities for the middle cell times 51 possibilities for its "current environment").
  • For arbitrary two-state CA with Moore neighbourhood, this leads to 512 equivalence classes, each of which contains only one 3x3 configuration.
At different time in CA-related discussions (including these forums and "external" discussions), people were referring to (what amounts to) such equivalence classes of 3x3 configurations as 'conditions'. I like this choice of wording, and I unambiguously prefer this wording, because it matches the intuition. Indeed, in a phrase such as "the condition of a cell", the word 'condition' reads as "the circumstances or factors affecting the cell". This reading correctly matches the underlying idea. Saying that a cell is currently dead and has precisely three alive neighbours does in fact tell "the circumstances or factors affecting the cell".

Of course it is also shorter to write "the condition of a cell" instead of "the equivalence class of 3x3 configurations to which the cell's 'current environment' belongs", but that isn't the primary advantage. (I would accept long verbose wording, if it was clearer and more intuitive compared to one or two words.)
I actually had "transition condition" in my formalism, but dropped it in favor of the subsets thing, since I often indexed transition statuses directly by subsets, instead of checking a bunch of conditions. As far as I can tell, this is a more "lightweight" way for me to comment my code.
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Re: Thread for your miscellaneous posts and discussions

Post by confocaloid » February 11th, 2025, 2:43 am

wwei47 wrote:
February 10th, 2025, 11:12 pm
confocaloid wrote:
February 10th, 2025, 4:29 pm
[...]
At different time in CA-related discussions (including these forums and "external" discussions), people were referring to (what amounts to) such equivalence classes of 3x3 configurations as 'conditions'. I like this choice of wording, and I unambiguously prefer this wording, because it matches the intuition. Indeed, in a phrase such as "the condition of a cell", the word 'condition' reads as "the circumstances or factors affecting the cell". This reading correctly matches the underlying idea. Saying that a cell is currently dead and has precisely three alive neighbours does in fact tell "the circumstances or factors affecting the cell".

Of course it is also shorter to write "the condition of a cell" instead of "the equivalence class of 3x3 configurations to which the cell's 'current environment' belongs", but that isn't the primary advantage. (I would accept long verbose wording, if it was clearer and more intuitive compared to one or two words.)
I actually had "transition condition" in my formalism, but dropped it in favor of the subsets thing, since I often indexed transition statuses directly by subsets, instead of checking a bunch of conditions. As far as I can tell, this is a more "lightweight" way for me to comment my code.
Looks like you are assuming a different meaning of the word 'condition', which is also compatible in a different way.

Wiktionary says this: (edit: changed to a permalink to a specific revision)
Wiktionary wrote: condition (countable and uncountable, plural conditions)
  1. A state or quality.
    National reports on the condition of public education are dismal. [...]
    1. A particular state of being.
      Hypnosis is a peculiar condition of the nervous system. [...]
  2. A requirement.
    [...] What other planets might have the right conditions for life? [...]
  3. A logical clause or phrase that a conditional statement uses. The phrase can either be true or false.
    [...]
The Life/CA-related conditions (to make an on-topic reply to the discussion) I guess are a little bit of everything.
  • A specific 3x3 configuration of alive and dead cells can belong to some equivalence class (a set of configurations), which can be checked to determine what will happen with the cell in the next tick. This allows viewing/using the equivalence class as a condition (in the sense of a requirement or a logical clause).
    When one is "checking a bunch of conditions", that probably means they're relying on this meaning:

    If any one of the listed conditions is met for the 3x3 environment of a cell, then the cell becomes or remains alive in the next tick.
  • A specific 3x3 configuration within a pattern can be immediately viewed as "the condition of the middle cell", which consists of the current state of the cell itself and some information about the current states of the neighbours of the cell. This leads to the meanings "A state or quality", "A particular state of being":

    Every finite-population nonempty pattern contains a cell whose condition is "a dead cell with precisely one alive neighbour".
    The current condition of the marked cell is either "a dead cell with at least four alive neighbours" or "an alive cell with precisely three neighbours".
The meanings are compatible; "checking a bunch of conditions" when evolving CA patterns amounts to checking conditions of cells in the pattern and deciding what happens with those cells (via some ruleset consisting of "if-then" rules, or via some ruletable consisting of ordered "if-then" rules with the first matching rule taking priority, or via some ruletree traversed by checking states of neighbours in a predetermined order, or via an arbitrary well-defined function from the set of cell conditions to the set of cellstates, or using any algorithm).

edit: fixed a tpyo.
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Re: Thread for your miscellaneous posts and discussions

Post by hotcrystal0 » February 13th, 2025, 6:23 pm

hotcrystal0 wrote:
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The jail cell goes “why not?”:

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x = 535, y = 443, rule = B3/S23Super
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49.A49.A49.A49.A49.A!
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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!

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Re: Thread for your miscellaneous posts and discussions

Post by wwei47 » February 15th, 2025, 12:54 am

This is a documentation post for my stripe-restricted photon frontend bruteforcer program.
https://gitlab.com/xp2-ca/stripe-restri ... /tree/main
It appears that I did not sufficiently document this on GitLab (thank you Sylvani for finding issues in my documentation), so here we go. The main confusion so far is what this program does. To do so, I illustrate a P63 photon partial found with the command shown in the comment of this RLE.

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#C java -jar Bruteforcer.jar 6 0b011010
x = 6, y = 5, rule = B2ack3r4cy5r/SSuper
4L2K$6L$H2GHGH2$6B!
The purple stripe is the "front stripe". This stripe is always P1, and is the second argument of the program.
The blue stripe is the "first back stripe". The program attempts to find combinations of rules and first back stripes that cause the back stripe to oscillate with an "interesting period". By default, I have this to be any period that is not less than 37, not [even and less than 50], not [divisible by 4 and less than 68], and not 72, since I have proven that any partials found at these periods by this program would never be able to beat the 5s entries for these photons. The first argument of this program tells it how wide it can search for the blue stripe.
The green section is the "support". The support is P1, and exists solely to keep the front stripe from falling apart. This program does NOT find supports, but since they're only P1, it shouldn't be hard to find good supports by hand most of the time.
Currently trying to reduce the big P6 double sparker.
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Re: Why the Conwaylife Skyscraper fell

Post by hth3 » February 17th, 2025, 5:18 am

For me this is particularly annoying since I have to create a fandom account and I don't like fandom.
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Re: Thread for your miscellaneous posts and discussions

Post by hotcrystal0 » February 17th, 2025, 9:24 am

get_Snacked wrote:
February 14th, 2025, 10:54 pm
Why did you modify this post, Matthias? Original post a day ago was simply a variant of that “Siriusly Simkin” humorous post. This is that post’s original. You could say that is violating forum protocol 1, but Dvgrn said it was just too hard to think about it siriusly:
wherever I go on the internet I bring with myself nothing but problems.

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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!

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Re: Thread for your miscellaneous posts and discussions

Post by confocaloid » February 17th, 2025, 9:39 am

Quoting posts obviously violating forum protocol 1 amounts to violating forum protocol 1.

At that point, I'd say it is way too hard to think about it as "fun", or to try avoiding a particular glyph in such a situation.

Avoiding a particular glyph cannot fix violations of forum protocol 1.
hotcrystal0 wrote:
February 17th, 2025, 9:24 am
[...] This is that post’s original. You could say that is violating forum protocol 1, [...]
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Re: Thread for your miscellaneous posts and discussions

Post by Sokwe » February 17th, 2025, 6:43 pm

hotcrystal0 wrote:
February 17th, 2025, 9:24 am
get_Snacked wrote:
February 14th, 2025, 10:54 pm
Why did you modify this post, Matthias? Original post a day ago was simply a variant of that “Siriusly Simkin” humorous post. This is that post’s original. You could say that is violating forum protocol 1, but Dvgrn said it was just too hard to think about it siriusly:
I did not realize it was actually an unattributed quotation. I have instead deleted the post in question. People need to write their own posts.

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Re: Thread for your miscellaneous posts and discussions

Post by wwei47 » February 17th, 2025, 9:07 pm

To me, this quote from a game feels extremely fitting for Conwaylife skyscraper. The theming of the achievement also fits perfectly too.
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Currently trying to reduce the big P6 double sparker.
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Re: Thread for your miscellaneous posts and discussions

Post by CARuler » February 19th, 2025, 8:45 pm

THE FRIST TWO-STATE SMOO!!!!!!
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Re: Thread for your miscellaneous posts and discussions

Post by confocaloid » February 19th, 2025, 8:50 pm

CARuler wrote:
February 19th, 2025, 8:45 pm
THE FRIST TWO-STATE SMOO!!!!!!
AforAmpere wrote:
February 19th, 2025, 7:39 am
Not really, it isn't the first example of a spaceship made out of oscillators:
confocaloid wrote:
March 4th, 2024, 2:54 pm
[...]
An orthogonal 14c/9172 spaceship:

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#C 14c/9172 spaceship (LaundryPizza03, apgsearch, 2022-05-02)
#C https://catagolue.hatsya.com/object/xq9172_397/b2k3acijr4ijqty5k6n8s2aek3-acey4ciqy5ackn6n7e8
x = 3, y = 4, rule = B2k3acijr4ijqty5k6n8/S2aek3-acey4ciqy5ackn6n7e8
3o$obo$2bo$bo!
  • At T = 0, the spaceship looks as shown above.
  • At T = 157, the spaceship temporarily settles into a pair of noninteracting oscillators, with high periods close to each other (p220 and p224).
  • At T = 4431, the p220 and the p224 collide with each other.
  • At T = 4586, the initial phase of the spaceship reappears, only mirror-reflected and translated.
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Re: Thread for your miscellaneous posts and discussions

Post by b-engine » February 21st, 2025, 2:14 am

I almost forgot that the yesterday was the 10th anniversary of Catagolue.

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I don't know why there are so many guests today, yet the server didn't jam.

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Re: Thread for your miscellaneous posts and discussions

Post by wwei47 » February 23rd, 2025, 2:33 am

Various oscillators in a variant of a rule that tommyaweosme put in his userspace. I simply added B3-j.

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x = 251, y = 156, rule = B3-j/S2-a34-cn
8bobobo3bo5bo7b2o10bo10bo5bo11b2o10bo5bo7b2o6b2o8bo14bo4bo13bo4b2o12bo
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7bobo7b2o4bo2bo7bob2obo8bo4b2o15bo3bo5b2obo10b2o3bobo2bo6bobobo3b3o11b
ob2o8bo21bobo$16b2o6b2o3b2o3bo7bobo6bo5bo3bo8bobobo12bobo7b4o5b2obo7b
2o9bo6b4obo4b2ob2o4bo15bo2bo2b3obo5b4o12bo$8bobobo11bobo4bobo8bobob2o
2bobo5b2o2bo11b2o11bo8bo4bo4bo11bo8bo2bo6bobo7bo8b3o11bobo6bo6bo14b3o$
25bo6b2o10bob2o2bo9b2o10bo2bo12b3o5bo4bo5b4o6bobo6bob2o6bo7b3o8bo3bo9b
obobo3bobo7bo2bo10bo$8bo36bo5b2o19b3o13bo8b4o8bobo6bo8bo2bo12bo2bo10b
2obo8bobo5b2o9b3o11b3o$51bobo17bo17b3o17bobo16bo6b3o6b2o11bobo10bo5bob
o9bo2bo$8bobobo39bo17bobo19bo6b2o9bo18b2o3bo3bo38bo11b2o9b4o$71bo19bob
o5b2o28bobo3b2obo60bo$92bo37bo6bo60bob3o$199bo7$8bobobo4bo17bo4bo2b2o
6bo9bo9bo12bo7b2o11b2o8bo9bo$16bobo15bobo2bob3obo4bobo7bobo7bobo9b2obo
5bob3o7b3obo6bobo7bobo$12bo2bo2b3o14bo4bo4bo3bobobo7bo9bo9bobobo4bobo
3bo5bo3b2o7b2o7bob3o$16b2o3bo10b3o8bob2o2bo3bo4b3o7b3o9bobo2b2o3bobo2b
obo4bobobo8bo7b2o4bo$8bobobo4bo3bo9bo11bobo4bo3bo2bo9bo12bobo2bo3b2obo
3bo4bo4bo4b3obo8bo4bo$17bo2bo10bo11bobo4bo2b2o3bo8bobo9b2obo2bo4bo3b2o
5bobobobo2bo5bo7bo4b2o$12bo5b2o9bobo10bobo6b2o5b2o6b2obo10bo3bo5bob2o
6bobo3bo4b5o9b3obo$28bobo12bo13bo4bo3b2obo10bob2o7bo9bo11bo13bobo$8bob
obo16bo28b4obo4bobo10bo46bo$62bo6bo$58b2o$58b2o7$8bo3bo6bo12bo4bo16bo
7b2o10bo13bo4bo15bo6bo16bo7bo8bo6bo17bo$18bobo10bobo2bobo14bobo5bo2bo
8bobo11bobo2bobo13bobo4bobo14bobo4b2obo5b2obo4bobo15bobo$8bo3bo5b2o11b
2o3bob3o11bobobo5b2o10bo13bo4bobo13bobo4b2o15bo4bobobo4bo2bobo4bo3b2o
10bobo$17bo12bo6bo3bo10bo3bo6b2o20b3o7bo13bobo6bo11b3o5bo3b2o4bo3bo5b
5o10bo$8bobobo4bo12bo11bo8b2o3b2o5bo3bo4b5o7bo11bo12bob2o5bo2bo7bo7b2o
5bo3bo3b2o9bo9bo$16b2o10bobo11bo9bo3bo3b2obo2bobo2bo5bo5bo9b2obo8bo5b
2o5bobobo5bo9bo2b3o3bo4bo8bobo7b2obo$12bo2bo2bo8bobo12b2o8bobobo3b2obo
2bobo2bo4bobo4bo10bo2bo6bob5o6bobobo6bo9bobo7b3obo7bobo5bobo2bo$16b2o
10bo12bo2bo8bobo8b2obo4bo3bobo3b2o9bo2b2o6bobo11b2o6bobo10bobo8b2o9b2o
4bob4o$12bo29b2o10bo11bo6b2ob2o3bo2bo9b2o9bo3b2o8bo5bobo12bo21b2o4bo$
75bo6b2o25b2o7bobo5bo34bo2bo6b2o$119bo42b2o7b2o8$20bo11bo10bo5bo15bo8b
2o8bo14b2o6bo13bo9b2o$19bobo8b2obo8bob2o2bobo12b2ob2o6b2o7bobo12bo2b2o
3bobo11bob2o5b3obo$20bobo5b2obobo6bobob2o3b2o12b2ob2o15bob3o9bobo3bo2b
ob3o9bob2o3b2o2bobo$20bobo5b3obo6b2obo6bob2o9bobo7b6o4b2o4bo8bobo3bo3b
o3bo8bobo3bo6b2o$20bob2o7bo8bobo7b2obo8bobo6bo6bo4bo2bobo7bo5bo7bobo9b
o3bo4bobo$22b2o5b2o10bo9bobo9bo6bobo4bobo3bo2bob2o7b3o2bo9bo4b5o5b5obo
$17b5o5b2o9b3o11bo6b4o8bo6bo5b3obo11b2o5bo4b2o2bo15bo$16bo9bobo8bo14bo
5bo13b6o8bobo10bobo4bob3obo3b4o9bo$15bobo2b2o5bo8bobo13bobo4b2o26bo12b
o6bo5bo4b2o8bobo$16bo3b2o15bo15bobo3b2o13b2o32b5o16bo$54bo19b2o34bo8$
8bobobo3bo11b2o7bo13bo10bo11bo10b2o13bo4bo11b2o9b2o15bo$15bob2o8bobo5b
2obo11bobo7b2obo9bobo8bobo12bobo2bobo5bo4b4o5b3ob2o12bob2o$8bo7bo2bob
2o4bob2o3bo3bo10bobobo5bo3bo9bob3o6bob2o12bo4bobo3bobo7bo4bo4bo12bob2o
$19bob2o2b2obobo3b2o3b2o8bo3bo6bobob2o8bo3b2o3b2obo10b3o7bo4bo4b3obo3b
o4bo9b2o2bo$8bobobo6bo5b2obobo4bo3bobo6b2o3bob2o3bo3bobo7bo5bo3bobo9bo
10bo4bo3bo4b2o2bo4bo10bob2o$19bo8bo6bobob2o8bo3bob2o2bo4b2o7bob3ob2o3b
o5bo4bo12b4o4bo4bo4b4o9bobo3bo$12bo5bobo7bo7bobo10bob2o7b4o10bo4bo5b5o
bo2bob2o19b5o16bob5o$19bo7bobo7bo12bobo22b2o2bo9bobo3bobo12b2o16b2o9bo
$8bobobo15bo22bo10b2o13b2o6b2o3bo19b2o7bo8b2o12bo$62b2o21b2o31bobo20bo
bo$119bo22bo8$8bobobo3bo8b2o14b2o6bo2b2o7bo10bo10bo10bo2bo6bo6bo10bo
15b2o4b2o13bo11bo9b2o12bo9bo7b2o14bo16bo$15bobo6bo2bo13b2o5bob2o2bo5bo
bo8bob2o6b2obo8bob2obo4bobo4bobo8bobo14b2o4b2o12bobo9bobo8b2o11bobo7bo
bo6b2o13bobo14bobo$8bo7b2o7b2o22bo5bo5b2o9bo2bo4bo3bo7bobo3bo5bo6b2o8b
obo16bo2bo14b2o10b3o22bo6b3obo22bo16b2o$18bob2o4b2o13b4o7bo2bo7bo9bobo
4bo3b2o6bobo3b2o13bo6b2obo12b4o4b4o8b2o21b6o7b3o6bo3bobo5b4o9bo16b3o2b
o$8bobobo4b2ob2o4bo13bo4bo6b3o8bo2bo7bobo2bobo2bo8b2o2b2o3b5o6bo6b2obo
bo9bo12bob2o3bo12b7o3bo4bobo5bo9bo3bobo3b2o2bobo7bob5o7b2obo4bo$18bo8b
o12bo3bobo4bo10b2obobo7bo3bo2bobo8bo4bo2bo5bo4b2ob2o6bo2b2o6bobo8bo2bo
b2o2bob3o8bo7bo2bobo4bo5b3o6bob2o2bo3bo4bobo7bo6bo6b2obo4bo$8bo3bo5bo
8bo3bo7bo3bobo4bobo11bobo4b4o5b2obo10b4o4bo4bo6bobo6bo2b2o6b2o2bo9bo6b
o11bo2bo3bo4b2o2b2o5bo9bo9bo4b2o7b4o3bo10b3o2bob2o$16b2o10b3obo7b3o2bo
5bo12bo5bo11bo13b2o4bo3bo7bob2o6bobo8bobo10bo7bobo9b2o4bo6b2o6bo9bobo
9b4o9bo6bo10b2obobob2o$8bobobo2bobo12bobo10b2o19bo6b2o30b4o7bob2o7b2o
8bobo9bobo7b2o11b4o14bob2o8bo24b6o10bo2b3o$16bo14bo10bobo18bobo5b2o42b
o20bobo9bo8bobo29bobo21b2o27b2o$43bo20bo40b2o30bo20bo11b2o41b2o12b2o
13bobo$105b2o63b2o55b2o14bo7$8bobobo3b2o13b2o9bo18b2o4bo17bo8bobobo8b
2o6bo17bo15bo7b2o13b2o8bo12bo13bo13b2o$16b2o13b2o8bobo15b3obo2bobo16bo
20bo2bo4bobo15bobo13bobo6b2o12bo2bo6bobo10bobo11bob2o9b2o2bo$12bo2bo4b
o21bo15bo3bo4b2o14bo10bo3bo8bobo5bobo15bo15bo20bobobo4b3obo10b3o11bo
12bobobo$15bob3obo9b4o8b3o12bob2o21bo2bo17b3obo6b3o15bo12b3o6b6o9b2obo
4bobobo24b2obo11b3obo$12bo3bo4bo8bo4bo10bo9b3o2b2o4b4o14bobo6bobobo3b
2o4bo9b2o14bo10bo8bo6bo8bo2b2o3bo3bo9b7o8bobobo14bo$21b2o7b2o2bobo8bo
9bo5bo5bo6bo10bobo13bobo4bob2o3b5o10b3obo10b2o6bob2o3bobo10bo3bo5bo7bo
7bo8bo17bobo$12bo7b2o7bo5bo9bo10bo4bo4bo2b5obo7b2obo7bo3bo3bobo2b2ob2o
3b2o3bo12bo10bo9bo6bo12bo2bo5bo7bob2o3bobo8b4o12bobobo$21bo7bo2b3o5bo
4bob2o8b4o6b2o5bo7bo2bo18bo3bo10bobo7b4o11bo10b6o10b3o4bo3bo7b2obo6bo
23bo2bo2bo$12bo7bobo7b2o7bob5ob2o22bo11b2o9bobobo5bobobo11bo7bo13bobo
25bo7b4o9bob7o11b3o13bo2bo$21bo8bobo7bo18b2o9bobo32bobo21b2o10bobo13b
2o10bobo19bobo17bo2bo12bobo$31bo11bo15b2o10bo34bo22b2o11bo14b2o11bo9b
2o10bo3b2o14b2o14bo$42bobo135b2o14b2o$43bo6$8bobobo5bo10bobo5bobobo4b
2o15bo9bo15bo10bobo5bobobo6bo7bobo5bobobo7b2o$17bobo26b4o12bobo6b2obo
13bobo27bobo26b4o$8bo3bo4bobo11bo5bo3bo3bo4bo7b2o3bo7b2obo13bobo11bo9b
o5b2o9bo9bo6bo3bo$16bob4o22bob3obo2bo4b5o11bo14bo3bo22b2obo25bob3o$8bo
bobo3bo5bo8bo5bo3bo3bo4bobobo19bobo12bob3o8bo5bobobo2bo13bo5bobobo5bo$
15b2o4bo23bo4bo2bo4b2o15bobo10bobo24b6o25bo$12bo3b2o3bo9bo5bo3bo4b3obo
7bobo14bo4bo8bo12bo5bo20bo9bo3bo2bo$16bo3bo27b2o7bobo14bo2b3obo35bo24b
obobo$8bobobo4bo2bo8bobobo3bobobo15bobo15b2o4bo18bobobo3bobobo3bobo8bo
bobo3bobobo3bo2b2o$18b2o38bo20b2o34bobo28b2o$79b2o35bo8$obo5bo3bo6b2o
12bo12bobo5bobobo3bo12b2o11bo14bobobo3bobo8b2o$18bob3o9bobo27b2o11b2o
10bobo32b2o$2bo5bo3bo5bo4bo9bobo12bo5bo7b2o23bobo17bo5bo$15b2obo2b2o
10b3o37b4o11bobo29b6o$2bo5bobobo2b2obo3bo13bo11bo5bobobo13bo4b2o11bo
12bobobo5bo5bobo4bo$18bo3bob2o7b3o35bobo5bo10bo4bo23bobobo2bo2bo$2bo9b
o5bobobob2o7bo14bo5bo3bo13bo7bo10b4obo6bo9bo4b2ob2o3bobobo$19bobo12b5o
34b7o15bo22bobobo3bo2bo$obobo7bo7bo18bo6bobobo3bobobo32b2o10bobobo3bob
obo3b2obobobo$36b4o35b2ob2o11b2o28bob3o$36b2o37b2ob2o41bobo$122bo!
EDIT: Worth noting that apgsearch probably isn't a good idea on this rule; chances are that every soup is going to become a unique object.
Edit 2: A few stator reductions.
Edit 3: One more stator reduction
Edit 4: Added more oscillators
Edit 5: Added more oscillators
Edit 6: Added more oscillators
Last edited by wwei47 on February 24th, 2025, 6:28 pm, edited 5 times in total.
Currently trying to reduce the big P6 double sparker.
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Fractal thread: viewtopic.php?f=12&t=6675

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Re: Thread for your miscellaneous posts and discussions

Post by hibiscus » February 23rd, 2025, 2:51 am

Today is the 443rd anniversary of whatever happened on the 23rd of February 1582. (If we treat this as a Proleptic Gregorian calendar date.)

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#C [[ ZOOM 8 TRACK -3/87 -1/87 ]]
x = 4, y = 5, rule = B35ay/S2-i3-e4ey5j
2bo$b2o$2obo$bobo$2b2o!

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Re: Thread for your miscellaneous posts and discussions

Post by confocaloid » February 23rd, 2025, 4:24 am

The forum rule 4 lists "[...] Some specific examples of discoveries that won't be of interest to this community [...]"

Maybe one-glider destructions of objects also should be added to the list?

For a reasonably small target pattern (approximately up to a speed tunnel sized pattern), it is very easy to simply try all possible ways to hit the target by a single glider. There's no point in posting any such destructions, they aren't noteworthy enough to post them.

For larger or high-period target objects, the question becomes "why would one even want to find a one-glider destruction of this specific target?" A large or high-period object is very unlikely to be "unwanted leftover junk" from a glider synthesis or a similar situation.

If someone is looking for ways to destroy objects by hitting them with gliders, probably there are additional restrictions due to the objects being surrounded by catalysts or sparkers (which must not be damaged) or by other objects to be destroyed (which affect the existing possibilities).
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Unlikely events happen.
My silence does not imply agreement, nor indifference. If I disagreed with something in the past, then please do not construe my silence as something that could change that.

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