amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by wwei47 » May 26th, 2024, 8:54 pm

Or there could be a dumb solution hiding at logical width 4 (well the head is logical width 6, but still).

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x = 79, y = 41, rule = B3/S23
28b2o5bo5b2o$28bo2bo2bobo2bo2bo12b2o2bo$29b4o2bo2b4o13bo2b2o$22b2o8bo
5bo17b5o$19b2o2bo5b4o5b4o$19bob2o6bo3b5o3bo$18bo11bo2bobobo2bo15b5o$
18bo8b3o10b2o13bo2b2o$19bob2o3bo8bo19b2o2bo$19b2o2bobob5o3bo41b2o$22b
2obobo3bo45bo$2o23bo3b3o5b2ob2o33bobo$bo23bo3b3o5b2o27b3o6b2o$bobo19b
2ob2o2bo5bo5b2o21bo3bo$2b2o18bobobob2o5bo6b2o20bo5bo$10b2o11bo2bobo7bo
6bo20bo5bo$9bo2b2o12bobo8b6o21bo5bo$9b2ob2o13bo9bo9bo17bo3bo$9b2ob2o
22b3o8b3o16b3o$11bo23b2obo11bo$49b2o14bo7b2o$64bo2bo5bo$4b2o49b2o6bo4b
o5b3o$5bo26b2o17b3o10b2o3bo6bo$2b3o7b6o15b3o11bob2o2bo4bo8b5o$2bo7b3ob
2ob3o13b2ob2o8b5o4bo12b2ob3o$9bo10bo14b3o8b2ob4o2bo18bo$8bob5ob2ob2o
18b2o7b2o5b2o3bo3b2o3b6o$8bobo6bobo19bobo8b2ob2o3b2obo2bo2b2o$6bobob2o
bo3bobo21bo8bobobo6bo3b3ob4o$6b2obo3bo4bo10bobo9b2o18b4o4bo2bo$9bobo
18b2o19b3o11b4o$9b2o19bo17bo2b2o8b2o2bobo$47bobob2o8bobobo4bo$47bobobo
bo8b2obobobobo$44b2obobobobo2bo9b2obobo$44bo2bo2b2ob4o13bo$46b2o4bo$
39bo12bobo$40bo12b2o$38b3o!
EDIT: One column for free:

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x = 78, y = 41, rule = B3/S23
28b2o5bo5b2o$28bo2bo2bobo2bo2bo$29b4o2bo2b4o12b2ob2o$22b2o8bo5bo15bo$
19b2o2bo5b4o5b4o13b2o2bo$19bob2o6bo3b5o3bo14b3o$18bo11bo2bobobo2bo15b
3o$18bo8b3o10b2o13b2o2bo$19bob2o3bo8bo18bo$19b2o2bobob5o3bo18b2ob2o$
22b2obobo3bo44b2o$2o23bo3b3o5b2ob2o34bo$bo23bo3b3o5b2o35bobo$bobo19b2o
b2o2bo5bo5b2o30b2o$2b2o18bobobob2o5bo6b2o22b2o$10b2o11bo2bobo7bo6bo21b
o2bo$9bo2b2o12bobo8b6o21b2ob2o$9b2ob2o13bo9bo9bo17bobo$9b2ob2o22b3o8b
3o16bo$11bo23b2obo11bo$49b2o$72b2o$4b2o49b2o6bo8bo$5bo26b2o17b3o8bobo
2bo5b3o$2b3o7b6o15b3o11bob2o2bo4bo4bo2bo8bo$2bo7b3ob2ob3o13b2ob2o8b5o
4bo10bo3bo$9bo10bo14b3o8b2ob4o2bo10bo3b3o$8bob5ob2ob2o18b2o7b2o5b2o3bo
6bo5bo$8bobo6bobo19bobo8b2ob2o3b2obob2o2b7o$6bobob2obo3bobo21bo8bobobo
6bobo2bo$6b2obo3bo4bo10bobo9b2o18bo2b3ob4o$9bobo18b2o19b3o8b2o4bo2bo$
9b2o19bo17bo2b2o11bob2o$47bobob2o11bob2o$47bobobobo7b2obo2bobo$44b2obo
bobobo2bo4b2obobobobo$44bo2bo2b2ob4o8b2obobo$46b2o4bo16bo$39bo12bobo$
40bo12b2o$38b3o!
Currently trying to reduce the big P6 double sparker.
Replicator thread: viewtopic.php?f=11&t=6769
Fractal thread: viewtopic.php?f=12&t=6675

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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by amling » May 29th, 2024, 11:58 pm

amling wrote:
May 23rd, 2024, 5:33 pm
amling wrote:
May 17th, 2024, 2:48 pm
I'm starting with the B2a3i/S12 p3 searches since they've been one of my standards for comparison for some of this work and I want to see how they do first (it would be a bonus if they succeeded, either positively or negatively).
After about a week it hit the 4 TB limit I had set for it and died. This was after taking maybe only 5 hours to reach as far as that last EC2 box had gotten in about a month. Longest partial before it died:

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x = 103, y = 13, rule = B2a3i/S12History
F.31B.F.31B.F.31B.F$F.12BA9BA8B.F.12BA9BA8B.F.12BA9BA8B.F$F.7BA5BA7BA
9B.F.7BA2BA2BA7BA9B.F.7BA5BA7BA9B.F$F.8BAB2A2BA16B.F.8BA5BA16B.F.8BA
5BA16B.F$F.10B2ABA3BA2B2A2BA6B.F.13BA3BA6BA6B.F.10B2ABA3BA6BA6B.F$F.
16BABAB2ABA7B.F.10B2A4BABA4BA7B.F.8BA2BA4BABAB2ABA7B.F$F.6BA6BA17B.F.
6BAB2ABA8B2A9B.F.6BA5BA7BA10B.F$F.4BABAB2AB4A2B2A7BA4B.F.4BABAB2ABA3B
2A3BAB2A2BA4B.F.4BABA4B2A2B2A2BA6BA4B.F$F.3BA4BA5BA2B4AB2ABA2BA2B.F.
3BA16BAB2ABA2BA2B.F.3BA4B2A5B2A2B2A4BA2BA2B.F$F.7BA4BA2B2A6BA3BA3B.F.
6BA4B2A14BA3B.F.8BAB3A9B2A3BA3B.F$F.3B2A2B2A3BA3B2ABA4BA6B.F.3B6A2BA
7B2A4BA5B.F.3B2A3BABA8B3ABA7B.F$F.4BA7B2A3BABA3B2A2B2A2B.F.11BA8BA2B
6A2B.F.10BA5B2A3B3A3B2A2B.F$F.4BABA2BA2BA4B3A7BA3B.F.4BA2BA3B2A3B2A2B
A2BA7B.F.2BA7B4ABABA13B.F!
I find the similar patterns at the edges discouraging. I wonder if there is a p3 "level almost half-plane". The existence of the p3 wick doesn't immediately imply it but we've seen enough bits and pieces that I'm growing suspicious. The computer has moved on to the limited step count searches which I will probably allow to run until they hit 4 TB as well. I am not sure if I consider the slow slog from 4 TB to 9 TB (1 TB RAM plus 8 TB disk) for unlimited width worth returning to complete...
I let the sequence of limited mid_steps run for a bit and it just completed mid_steps=31 with no results in ~84h and ~3.4TB. Longest partial (only one step farther than where the unlimited mid_steps died):

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x = 103, y = 14, rule = B2a3i/S12History
F.31B.F.31B.F.31B.F$F.12BA9BA8B.F.12BA9BA8B.F.12BA9BA8B.F$F.7BA5BA7BA
9B.F.7BA2BA2BA7BA9B.F.7BA5BA7BA9B.F$F.8BAB2A2BA16B.F.8BA5BA16B.F.8BA
5BA16B.F$F.10B2ABA3BA2B2A2BA6B.F.13BA3BA6BA6B.F.10B2ABA3BA6BA6B.F$F.
16BABAB2ABA7B.F.10B2A4BABA4BA7B.F.8BA2BA4BABAB2ABA7B.F$F.6BA6BA17B.F.
6BAB2ABA8B2A9B.F.6BA5BA7BA10B.F$F.4BABAB2AB4A2B2A7BA4B.F.4BABAB2ABA3B
2A3BAB2A2BA4B.F.4BABA4B2A2B2A2BA6BA4B.F$F.3BA4BA5BA2B4AB2ABA2BA2B.F.
3BA16BAB2ABA2BA2B.F.3BA4B2A5B2A2B2A4BA2BA2B.F$F.7BA4BA2B2A6BA3BA3B.F.
6BA4B2A14BA3B.F.8BAB3A9B2A3BA3B.F$F.3B2A2B2A3BA3B2ABA4BA6B.F.3B6A2BA
7B2A4BA5B.F.3B2A3BABA8B3ABA7B.F$F.4BA7B2A3BABA3B2A2B2A2B.F.11BA8BA2B
6A2B.F.10BA5B2A3B3A3B2A2B.F$F.4BABABA3BA4B3A7BA3B.F.4BABABA2B2A3B2A2B
A2BA7B.F.2BA7B4ABABA13B.F$F.3BA3BA11BA5BA2BA2B.F33.F33.F!
I stopped it there as these are taking longer and longer and especially longer and longer now that they're deep, deep into swap. Unfortunately I don't think it's within range of my current ideas, techniques, and computers to resolve whether or not there is a finite p3 oscillator here.

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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by C_R_116 » May 30th, 2024, 12:24 am

Here's a 3c/7 partial that I found on qfind (as a partial wave):

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x = 75, y = 110, rule = B3/S23
9bo11bo31bo11bo$8b3o9b3o29b3o9b3o$7bo2b2o7b2o2bo27bo2b2o7b2o2bo$6bo3bo
bo5bobo3bo25bo3bobo5bobo3bo$5b2ob2ob2o5b2ob2ob2o23b2ob2ob2o5b2ob2ob2o$
5b4o3bo5bo3b4o23b4o3bo5bo3b4o$5bo3b4obobob4o3bo23bo3b4obobob4o3bo$9bo
11bo31bo11bo$4bobo3b2o2bobo2b2o3bobo21bobo3b2o2bobo2b2o3bobo$5bo4bobo
5bobo4bo23bo4bobo5bobo4bo2$8b2obo7bob2o29b2obo7bob2o$8b5o5b5o29b5o5b5o
$7b2o4bo3bo4b2o27b2o4bo3bo4b2o$10b4o3b4o33b4o3b4o$4bob3obobobobobobob
3obo21bob3obobobobobobob3obo$3b3o2bo5bobo5bo2b3o19b3o2bo5bobo5bo2b3o$
2b2o2bo7bobo7bo2b2o17b2o2bo7bobo7bo2b2o$b2o3bo4bo7bo4bo3b2o15b2o3bo4bo
7bo4bo3b2o$11bobo3bobo35bobo3bobo$11bo2bobo2bo35bo2bobo2bo$4bo7b2o3b2o
7bo21bo7b2o3b2o7bo$ob2o23b2obo13bob2o23b2obo$b5o5bo7bo5b5o15b5o5bo7bo
5b5o$5b2o17b2o23b2o17b2o$4b3o17b3o21b3o17b3o$2b2o2bo17bo2b2o17b2o2bo
17bo2b2o$2b4o19b4o17b4o19b4o$b2o3b2o15b2o3b2o15b2o3b2o15b2o3b2o$2bo3b
2ob2o9b2ob2o3bo17bo3b2ob2o9b2ob2o3bo$2bo3b2ob2o9b2ob2o3bo17bo3b2ob2o9b
2ob2o3bo$3bo23bo19bo23bo$9bo2bo5bo2bo31bo2bo5bo2bo$6b2obo11bob2o25b2ob
o11bob2o$8b2o11b2o29b2o11b2o$6b3o13b3o25b3o13b3o$8b2obo7bob2o29b2obo7b
ob2o$9bobo7bobo31bobo7bobo$11bo7bo35bo7bo$9bo2bo5bo2bo31bo2bo5bo2bo$8b
ob2o7b2obo29bob2o7b2obo$7b3ob2o5b2ob3o27b3ob2o5b2ob3o$7b2o13b2o27b2o
13b2o$11b2o5b2o35b2o5b2o2$8b3o9b3o29b3o9b3o$7bobo3bo3bo3bobo27bobo3bo
3bo3bobo$7bo2bob3ob3obo2bo27bo2bob3ob3obo2bo$9bobo2bobo2bobo31bobo2bob
o2bobo$9bobo2bobo2bobo31bobo2bobo2bobo$9bo2b2o3b2o2bo31bo2b2o3b2o2bo$
11bobo3bobo35bobo3bobo2$11bo7bo35bo7bo$8bo13bo29bo13bo$7b2obo9bob2o27b
2obo9bob2o$6bobo13bobo25bobo13bobo$8bo13bo29bo13bo$6b2o15b2o25b2o15b2o
3$8bobo9bobo29bobo9bobo$8bobo9bobo29bobo9bobo$8bo2bo7bo2bo29bo2bo7bo2b
o$9bob2o5b2obo31bob2o5b2obo$8bo3b2o3b2o3bo29bo3b2o3b2o3bo$9bo2b3ob3o2b
o31bo2b3ob3o2bo$9bob2obobob2obo31bob2obobob2obo$12b3ob3o37b3ob3o$11bob
2ob2obo35bob2ob2obo$11bo7bo35bo7bo$11bo2bobo2bo35bo2bobo2bo$10bo3bobo
3bo33bo3bobo3bo$10bo9bo33bo9bo$14bobo41bobo$8b2o3b2ob2o3b2o29b2o3b2ob
2o3b2o$9bo11bo31bo11bo$6b2obobo7bobob2o25b2obobo7bobob2o$6b2obob2o5b2o
bob2o25b2obob2o5b2obob2o$5bo19bo23bo19bo$6b2ob2o2bo3bo2b2ob2o25b2ob2o
2bo3bo2b2ob2o2$6b2o3bobo3bobo3b2o25b2o3bobo3bobo3b2o$6bobo4bo3bo4bobo
8bo7bo8bobo4bo3bo4bobo$6b2ob2o2b2ob2o2b2ob2o6b2ob2o3b2ob2o6b2ob2o2b2ob
2o2b2ob2o$10bo2b2ob2o2bo10b2ob2o3b2ob2o10bo2b2ob2o2bo$6bo2bo3b2ob2o3bo
2bo9b2o3b2o9bo2bo3b2ob2o3bo2bo$6b3o13b3o5bo5b3o5bo5b3o13b3o$30bo13bo$
31bo11bo$6bobo13bobo7b2o7b2o7bobo13bobo$5b2obo13bob2o3bobobobo3bobobob
o3b2obo13bob2o$5bo3bo11bo3bo3bobob2o5b2obobo3bo3bo11bo3bo$5bo2bo13bo2b
o2bo3bo9bo3bo2bo2bo13bo2bo$5bo3b2o9b2o3bo2bo2b2o9b2o2bo2bo3b2o9b2o3bo$
6bo3b2o7b2o3bo4bo3b2o5b2o3bo4bo3b2o7b2o3bo$9b2o9b2o7bo5bo3bo5bo7b2o9b
2o$10bo9bo9bobo9bobo9bo9bo$10bo9bo10b2o9b2o10bo9bo$8bob2o7b2obo7b3o3bo
bo3b3o7bob2o7b2obo$9b2o9b2o9b2o9b2o9b2o9b2o$31b2obo5bob2o$30b2o11b2o$
34bo5bo$10bobo5bobo8bo3bobo3bobo3bo8bobo5bobo$11bo7bo9bobo2bobobobo2bo
bo9bo7bo$29b2o3bobobobo3b2o2$29bo4bobobobo4bo$35bo3bo!
It's only two cells off. I'm trying to complete it by running a search on ikpx2, but I think LSSS/LLSSS would work better.

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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by amling » May 30th, 2024, 2:02 pm

C_R_116 wrote:
May 30th, 2024, 12:24 am
Here's a 3c/7 partial that I found on qfind (as a partial wave):

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x = 75, y = 110, rule = B3/S23
9bo11bo31bo11bo$8b3o9b3o29b3o9b3o$7bo2b2o7b2o2bo27bo2b2o7b2o2bo$6bo3bo
bo5bobo3bo25bo3bobo5bobo3bo$5b2ob2ob2o5b2ob2ob2o23b2ob2ob2o5b2ob2ob2o$
5b4o3bo5bo3b4o23b4o3bo5bo3b4o$5bo3b4obobob4o3bo23bo3b4obobob4o3bo$9bo
11bo31bo11bo$4bobo3b2o2bobo2b2o3bobo21bobo3b2o2bobo2b2o3bobo$5bo4bobo
5bobo4bo23bo4bobo5bobo4bo2$8b2obo7bob2o29b2obo7bob2o$8b5o5b5o29b5o5b5o
$7b2o4bo3bo4b2o27b2o4bo3bo4b2o$10b4o3b4o33b4o3b4o$4bob3obobobobobobob
3obo21bob3obobobobobobob3obo$3b3o2bo5bobo5bo2b3o19b3o2bo5bobo5bo2b3o$
2b2o2bo7bobo7bo2b2o17b2o2bo7bobo7bo2b2o$b2o3bo4bo7bo4bo3b2o15b2o3bo4bo
7bo4bo3b2o$11bobo3bobo35bobo3bobo$11bo2bobo2bo35bo2bobo2bo$4bo7b2o3b2o
7bo21bo7b2o3b2o7bo$ob2o23b2obo13bob2o23b2obo$b5o5bo7bo5b5o15b5o5bo7bo
5b5o$5b2o17b2o23b2o17b2o$4b3o17b3o21b3o17b3o$2b2o2bo17bo2b2o17b2o2bo
17bo2b2o$2b4o19b4o17b4o19b4o$b2o3b2o15b2o3b2o15b2o3b2o15b2o3b2o$2bo3b
2ob2o9b2ob2o3bo17bo3b2ob2o9b2ob2o3bo$2bo3b2ob2o9b2ob2o3bo17bo3b2ob2o9b
2ob2o3bo$3bo23bo19bo23bo$9bo2bo5bo2bo31bo2bo5bo2bo$6b2obo11bob2o25b2ob
o11bob2o$8b2o11b2o29b2o11b2o$6b3o13b3o25b3o13b3o$8b2obo7bob2o29b2obo7b
ob2o$9bobo7bobo31bobo7bobo$11bo7bo35bo7bo$9bo2bo5bo2bo31bo2bo5bo2bo$8b
ob2o7b2obo29bob2o7b2obo$7b3ob2o5b2ob3o27b3ob2o5b2ob3o$7b2o13b2o27b2o
13b2o$11b2o5b2o35b2o5b2o2$8b3o9b3o29b3o9b3o$7bobo3bo3bo3bobo27bobo3bo
3bo3bobo$7bo2bob3ob3obo2bo27bo2bob3ob3obo2bo$9bobo2bobo2bobo31bobo2bob
o2bobo$9bobo2bobo2bobo31bobo2bobo2bobo$9bo2b2o3b2o2bo31bo2b2o3b2o2bo$
11bobo3bobo35bobo3bobo2$11bo7bo35bo7bo$8bo13bo29bo13bo$7b2obo9bob2o27b
2obo9bob2o$6bobo13bobo25bobo13bobo$8bo13bo29bo13bo$6b2o15b2o25b2o15b2o
3$8bobo9bobo29bobo9bobo$8bobo9bobo29bobo9bobo$8bo2bo7bo2bo29bo2bo7bo2b
o$9bob2o5b2obo31bob2o5b2obo$8bo3b2o3b2o3bo29bo3b2o3b2o3bo$9bo2b3ob3o2b
o31bo2b3ob3o2bo$9bob2obobob2obo31bob2obobob2obo$12b3ob3o37b3ob3o$11bob
2ob2obo35bob2ob2obo$11bo7bo35bo7bo$11bo2bobo2bo35bo2bobo2bo$10bo3bobo
3bo33bo3bobo3bo$10bo9bo33bo9bo$14bobo41bobo$8b2o3b2ob2o3b2o29b2o3b2ob
2o3b2o$9bo11bo31bo11bo$6b2obobo7bobob2o25b2obobo7bobob2o$6b2obob2o5b2o
bob2o25b2obob2o5b2obob2o$5bo19bo23bo19bo$6b2ob2o2bo3bo2b2ob2o25b2ob2o
2bo3bo2b2ob2o2$6b2o3bobo3bobo3b2o25b2o3bobo3bobo3b2o$6bobo4bo3bo4bobo
8bo7bo8bobo4bo3bo4bobo$6b2ob2o2b2ob2o2b2ob2o6b2ob2o3b2ob2o6b2ob2o2b2ob
2o2b2ob2o$10bo2b2ob2o2bo10b2ob2o3b2ob2o10bo2b2ob2o2bo$6bo2bo3b2ob2o3bo
2bo9b2o3b2o9bo2bo3b2ob2o3bo2bo$6b3o13b3o5bo5b3o5bo5b3o13b3o$30bo13bo$
31bo11bo$6bobo13bobo7b2o7b2o7bobo13bobo$5b2obo13bob2o3bobobobo3bobobob
o3b2obo13bob2o$5bo3bo11bo3bo3bobob2o5b2obobo3bo3bo11bo3bo$5bo2bo13bo2b
o2bo3bo9bo3bo2bo2bo13bo2bo$5bo3b2o9b2o3bo2bo2b2o9b2o2bo2bo3b2o9b2o3bo$
6bo3b2o7b2o3bo4bo3b2o5b2o3bo4bo3b2o7b2o3bo$9b2o9b2o7bo5bo3bo5bo7b2o9b
2o$10bo9bo9bobo9bobo9bo9bo$10bo9bo10b2o9b2o10bo9bo$8bob2o7b2obo7b3o3bo
bo3b3o7bob2o7b2obo$9b2o9b2o9b2o9b2o9b2o9b2o$31b2obo5bob2o$30b2o11b2o$
34bo5bo$10bobo5bobo8bo3bobo3bobo3bo8bobo5bobo$11bo7bo9bobo2bobobobo2bo
bo9bo7bo$29b2o3bobobobo3b2o2$29bo4bobobobo4bo$35bo3bo!
It's only two cells off. I'm trying to complete it by running a search on ikpx2, but I think LSSS/LLSSS would work better.
For my best guesses of how to cut the search (recentering, odd left edge, cut a few W rows up from the single extra cell), preliminary searches took about 9 GB to get to this:

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x = 225, y = 27, rule = LifeHistory
F31.F31.F31.F31.F31.F.5B2A3B2ABABAB2A3B2A5B.F.5BA4B3A3B3A4BA5B.F$F31.
F31.F31.F.6B2A3B3AB3A3B2A6B.F.6B2A3BABABABA3B2A6B.F.6B2A13B2A6B.F.29B
.F$F.7BA2BABA3BABA2BA7B.F.12B2AB2A12B.F.12B2AB2A12B.F.12B2AB2A12B.F.
29B.F.6B2A13B2A6B.F.5BA17BA5B.F$F.10BABA3BABA10B.F.10BABA3BABA10B.F.
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I'll put it in line for access to real computing resources but I'm not optimistic: these sorts of partials seem like they would have been covered by a normal odd search at that sort of width and so I don't think recentering is getting lucky here (yet).

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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by amling » June 12th, 2024, 6:41 pm

amling wrote:
February 2nd, 2024, 4:27 pm
...I thought 2c/10d might be in range...
I tried this with the new computer with still pretty mixed results. Again the first stage of the rotor tree pipeline got farther than the second stage but I guess it's not surprising (this time). I combed through logs a great deal and found 13 distinct rotors I liked the looks of and so started searches for them directly. One is unsolvable at any width but the other 12 did okay. I was running with up to 2 TB of memory and BIDX=u32 and all 12 search lines died hitting a 2^32 size bcol first. TBD rerunning with BIDX=usize but for now the 12 longest partials:

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3.8B2A10B.F$F.4BABA3BA9B3.F2.6B2A3BA8B2.F2.6BA2BABA8B2.F2.7B5A8B2.F2.
11BA8B2.F2.10B3A7B2.F3.9BA10B.F3.8BABA9B.F3.7B2ABA9B.F3.7BA3BA8B.F$F.
7B3ABA8B3.F2.3BA2B3AB2A8B2.F2.8BA3BA7B2.F2.5BAB2A2BA8B2.F2.4B2A5BA8B
2.F2.4BABA3BA9B2.F3.6B2A3BA8B.F3.6BA2BABA8B.F3.7B5A8B.F3.11BA8B.F$F.
4B2ABA3B2A7B3.F2.5B2A2B2ABA7B2.F2.4B2A2B3A9B2.F2.4B2A2BA11B2.F2.4B3AB
2A10B2.F2.7B3ABA8B2.F3.3BA2B3AB2A8B.F3.8BA3BA7B.F3.5BAB2A2BA8B.F3.4B
2A5BA8B.F$F.12B2A6B3.F2.5BA14B2.F2.4B2A3B3A8B2.F2.8BA2BA8B2.F2.5BABAB
3A8B2.F2.4B2ABA3B2A7B2.F3.5B2A2B2ABA7B.F3.4B2A2B3A9B.F3.4B2A2BA11B.F
3.4B3AB2A10B.F$F.7BA4BABA5B3.F2.5BA4BA2BA6B2.F2.5B2A13B2.F2.6BA3B4A6B
2.F2.9B2AB2A6B2.F2.12B2A6B2.F3.5BA14B.F3.4B2A3B3A8B.F3.8BA2BA8B.F3.5B
ABAB3A8B.F$F.4B2ABA4B3A5B3.F2.3B2ABA3BA2BA6B2.F2.4BABA5B3A5B2.F2.10BA
3BA5B2.F2.5BABAB2ABABA5B2.F2.7BA4BABA5B2.F3.5BA4BA2BA6B.F3.5B2A13B.F
3.6BA3B4A6B.F3.9B2AB2A6B.F$F.4B2ABABABABA6B3.F2.6BA6BA6B2.F2.6B2AB5A
6B2.F2.5B3A2BA3BA5B2.F2.5BAB4A2B2A5B2.F2.4B2ABA4B3A5B2.F3.3B2ABA3BA2B
A6B.F3.4BABA5B3A5B.F3.10BA3BA5B.F3.5BABAB2ABABA5B.F$F.5BABA2B3A7B3.F
2.3B2A2BAB2ABA7B2.F2.11B2A7B2.F2.6B2ABA3BA6B2.F2.5BABABABA8B2.F2.4B2A
BABABABA6B2.F3.6BA6BA6B.F3.6B2AB5A6B.F3.5B3A2BA3BA5B.F3.5BAB4A2B2A5B.
F$F.13BA6B3.F2.12B2A6B2.F2.6BA3BA9B2.F2.9B3A8B2.F2.5BA5B2A7B2.F2.5BAB
A2B3A7B2.F3.3B2A2BAB2ABA7B.F3.11B2A7B.F3.6B2ABA3BA6B.F3.5BABABABA8B.F
$F.3BA5BABAB2A5B3.F2.6B3ABAB2A6B2.F2.5BA2B2A4BA5B2.F2.5B4ABA2BA6B2.F
2.4B2AB2A4BA6B2.F2.13BA6B2.F3.12B2A6B.F3.6BA3BA9B.F3.9B3A8B.F3.5BA5B
2A7B.F$F.3BA2B3AB2ABA6B3.F2.2BA2B3A2BAB2A6B2.F2.3B3A2B2A2B2A6B2.F2.3B
ABABA2BAB2A6B2.F2.4B2A4BAB2A6B2.F2.3BA5BABAB2A5B2.F3.6B3ABAB2A6B.F3.
5BA2B2A4BA5B.F3.5B4ABA2BA6B.F3.4B2AB2A4BA6B.F$F.4B3A3BA9B3.F2.3B2A15B
2.F2.3B2A3BA2BA8B2.F2.2BA5BA2BA8B2.F2.4BAB3A2BABA6B2.F2.3BA2B3AB2ABA
6B2.F3.2BA2B3A2BAB2A6B.F3.3B3A2B2A2B2A6B.F3.3BABABA2BAB2A6B.F3.4B2A4B
AB2A6B.F$F.7B2AB2ABA6B3.F2.4BAB2ABA2B2A6B2.F2.3B2A4B2AB2A6B2.F2.5BA2B
3A2BA6B2.F2.3BABA2BABA9B2.F2.4B3A3BA9B2.F3.3B2A15B.F3.3B2A3BA2BA8B.F
3.2BA5BA2BA8B.F3.4BAB3A2BABA6B.F$F.7BA2BAB3A5B3.F2.5B5ABA2BA5B2.F2.4B
A4BA2B2A6B2.F2.3B3A3BA4BA5B2.F2.8B2A10B2.F2.7B2AB2ABA6B2.F3.4BAB2ABA
2B2A6B.F3.3B2A4B2AB2A6B.F3.5BA2B3A2BA6B.F3.3BABA2BABA9B.F$F.5BA8B2A4B
3.F2.5BA3BA10B2.F2.5BA5B2A2BA4B2.F2.5B2A4BA8B2.F2.7BA2BAB3A5B2.F2.7BA
2BAB3A5B2.F3.5B5ABA2BA5B.F3.4BA4BA2B2A6B.F3.3B3A3BA4BA5B.F3.8B2A10B.F
$F.5BA3BAB2AB2A4B3.F2.7B2ABAB4A4B2.F2.6B2A5BABA4B2.F2.6B2A3BAB2A5B2.F
2.5B3A2B2A2BA5B2.F2.5BA8B2A4B2.F3.5BA3BA10B.F3.5BA5B2A2BA4B.F3.5B2A4B
A8B.F3.7BA2BAB3A5B.F$F.8B3A6BA2B3.F2.7B2A5B2A4B2.F2.7B3A2BA7B2.F2.9BA
2B3A5B2.F2.6B4ABA3BA4B2.F2.5BA3BAB2AB2A4B2.F3.7B2ABAB4A4B.F3.6B2A5BAB
A4B.F3.6B2A3BAB2A5B.F3.5B3A2B2A2BA5B.F$F.11B4A2BA2B3.F2.13B2AB2A2B2.F
2.6BA2BA3BA3BA2B2.F2.6BA2B2A2BA2B2A2B2.F2.8BA2BA3B3A2B2.F2.8B3A6BA2B
2.F3.7B2A5B2A4B.F3.7B3A2BA7B.F3.9BA2B3A5B.F3.6B4ABA3BA4B.F$F.6B3AB5AB
2A2B3.F2.5BAB3A4B3A3B2.F2.7BABA4BAB2A2B2.F2.9B2A2BA2B2A2B2.F2.14B2ABA
2B2.F2.11B4A2BA2B2.F3.13B2AB2A2B.F3.6BA2BA3BA3BA2B.F3.6BA2B2A2BA2B2A
2B.F3.8BA2BA3B3A2B.F$F.6B3A2BABA6B3.F2.5BAB2A3BA7B2.F2.9BA2BA7B2.F2.
7BABA5BA4B2.F2.7BA3B2ABABA3B2.F2.6B3AB5AB2A2B2.F3.5BAB3A4B3A3B.F3.7BA
BA4BAB2A2B.F3.9B2A2BA2B2A2B.F3.14B2ABA2B.F$F.11BA3B3A2B3.F2.7BA3BAB4A
3B2.F2.7B2A7B2A2B2.F2.7B5ABA6B2.F2.6B2ABABA4BA3B2.F2.6B3A2BABA6B2.F3.
5BAB2A3BA7B.F3.9BA2BA7B.F3.7BABA5BA4B.F3.7BA3B2ABABA3B.F$F.8BA5BA2BA
2B3.F2.6BA6B2AB2A2B2.F2.6BA2BAB3A6B2.F2.6BA4B2A3B2A2B2.F2.11BA2BA5B2.
F2.11BA3B3A2B2.F3.7BA3BAB4A3B.F3.7B2A7B2A2B.F3.7B5ABA6B.F3.6B2ABABA4B
A3B.F$F24.F24.F2.7B4A6BA2B2.F2.8BA4B2A5B2.F2.11BABA2B2A2B2.F2.8BA5BA
2BA2B2.F3.6BA6B2AB2A2B.F3.6BA2BAB3A6B.F3.6BA4B2A3B2A2B.F3.11BA2BA5B.F
$F24.F24.F24.F24.F24.F24.F24.F3.7B4A6BA2B.F3.8BA4B2A5B.F3.11BABA2B2A
2B.F!
I haven't dug through all the splits yet (and probably won't until the BIDX=usize runs are done), but one in particular caught my eye. I haven't been able to solve it yet but both sides look pretty viable (these are the last rotor in the above and these single-generation partials corresponds with the third generation):

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x = 102, y = 40, rule = B3/S23
8b2o50b2o$bo6bobo42bo6bobo$o5bo2bobo40bo5bo2bobo$o7bo3bo39bo7bo3bo$bo
4bobo44bo4bobo$2bobobo3b2o42bobobo3b2o$3bob5o45bob5o$8bobob2obo44bobob
2obo$7bo2b4o2bo42bo2b4o2bo$6b3o2bo3bo42b3o2bo3bo$6bo2bob3o2bo41bo2bob
3o2bo$9bob4obo44bob4obo$7b3o2b2o2bo42b3o2b2o2bo$6bo7bo43bo7bo$4bob2obo
5b2o39bob2obo5b2o$6bo9bo41bo9bo$7b4o7bo40b4o6bo2b2o$2bo3bo2b2o9bo33bo
3bo2b2o9b2o$2bo3b2obo10bo33bo3b2obo10b2o$6b3o7bo3b2o36b3o10bo2bo2bo$2b
o17b2o32bo17bobob3o$2b2obob2o8bo36b2obob2o16bobo$5bo2b2o10bo36bo2b2o
12bob2obo3bobo$4bobobobo7bobo35bobobobo12b2o6bo2b2o$3bo2bobobo11bobo
30bo2bobobo14bob4o3b2o3bo$6bo2bo11bo3bo32bo2bo15bo3b3o2b2o2b2o$5b2o2bo
10b3ob2o31b2o2bo23b2ob2o2b2obo$2b2ob2ob2o11b2o31b2ob2ob2o19b3obobo4bob
2o2b2o$2b2o17b2o31b2o30b2o6b2o4bo$bobo5bo14b2o27bobo5bo25b2o2bo2bo2b2o
2bo$5bo2bobo11b3o32bo2bobo25b2obo7bobo$2b2o6b2o7b2o33b2o6b2o26b2o3bo5b
o$3bo2bo2b2o8bo2bob2o29bo2bo2b2o32b2o4bo$2bo3b2ob2o43bo3b2ob2o31bo2b2o
$20bobob2o73bo$24b2o$22bobo$21b2o3bo$22bo3b2o$22bo3b2o!

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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by amling » June 24th, 2024, 1:20 pm

amling wrote:
February 2nd, 2024, 4:27 pm
...I thought 2c/10d might be in range...
Here is a possible choice of splits that makes it two big downward branches and one small upward branch:

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x = 48, y = 84, rule = B3/S23
5bo$7b2o$2bob3o$4bo$b2o$b2obo$2bo2b2o$3bobobo$3bo3bo$3bo4bo$4b2ob3o$8b
2o$6bo$6bo3bo$10bo$6b3o$5bobo$6bo$5bo$5bob2o$5bob2o$5bob2o$8b2o$7bobo$
6bo$6bo3bo$4bo3b2o$3b2ob2o$3b2obo$3b2obob2o$4bo$9bo$9bo37bo$10b2o35bo$
7b2o38bo$10bobo13bobo13b2ob2o$12bo12b4o12b2o3b2o$13bo12b3obo16bo$14bo
15b2ob2o2b2ob3obo2bo$14b2o9b2ob2o5bobob3o$16bo7b2obobobo5bo3bo2b3o$17b
3o4b2o3bo5b2obobo3bo$14b7o4bo3bo8bo6b3o$15b2o7bobo3b5o6b2o2bobo$16bo7b
obo6b3o2bo2bo2b2o$12bobobobo5bo8bo2bob2o2bob3o$2bo4b2o3bo5b3o2bo3bo6b
4o2bo$2ob2obo2b3o6b2ob3obobo9bo2b2o5bo$bobo2b2obob2o5bo3b2obobo2b4o2bo
2bo$bo7bo2b4o4bo8bobob2o4bo$2bobo5bo2bo6bo9bo$7bo2b2o10b2o8b2o3bo$2o4b
obobo25bo$2o2bobo3bo23b2o$bobo2bo3bo$3bo2b4obo$7b3o2b2o$4bo6b2o$4b4o3b
o$5b2ob2obo2bo$4bobob2o4bo$3b2obobobo3bo$8bobobo$4bo3bo3bo$5b2obo2bo$
9bob2o$3b2o2b4o2bo$2bobo2b2obo2bo$2b3o2b2obo2bo$9b2o$9b2o3bo$4b5o3bob
2o$3b3o7b2obo$2b2o8bob2o$6b5o3b2o$7b2o$3b2o4bob2o$3b2obo4b2o2bo$3bobo
7bobo$2b2o3b3o$2bob2o6b2obo$2bo6bo3bo$bo2bo3b2o3b3o$b2obob2o6bo!
I still haven't solved any of the three yet but they are all seemingly pretty viable.

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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by May13 » July 9th, 2024, 10:07 pm

I found a healthy 3c/4 partial using LLSSS:

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x = 59, y = 139, rule = B2567/S14578
13bobo27bobo$13b2o2bo5bob2o5b2obo5bo2b2o$11b2ob2ob2ob2o5bo3bo5b2ob2ob
2ob2o$12b3obobo3b5ob3ob5o3bobob3o$12b3obo2bob4obo2bo2bob4obo2bob3o$12b
3o2bobo2bo2b4ob4o2bo2bobo2b3o$12b6o2bob3ob2o3b2ob3obo2b6o$11b2ob4o2b4o
b3o3b3ob4o2b4ob2o$13b5o2bo2bob4ob4obo2bo2b5o$13bo3b2obob2ob9ob2obob2o
3bo$13b2ob3ob6obo3bob6ob3ob2o$13b5o3b8ob8o3b5o$13b5o2b2ob5o3b5ob2o2b5o
$13b5o2b2o2b2o2b3o2b2o2b2o2b5o$13b3obobob4ob3ob3ob4obobob3o$13b5o2b3o
2bob5obo2b3o2b5o$13b7o2bo2b2ob3ob2o2bo2b7o$13b9ob13ob9o$13b3ob2ob4o3bo
3bo3b4ob2ob3o$13b4ob2obo3b9o3bob2ob4o$13b5ob4o6bo6b4ob5o$13b8ob2ob2o5b
2ob2ob8o$13b3ob2ob3ob2ob5ob2ob3ob2ob3o$13b3ob8ob2obob2ob8ob3o$13b2o4b
6obo5bob6o4b2o$11b8o3bob4o3b4obo3b8o$12b7o2b8ob8o2b7o$12b7o3bob11obo3b
7o$12bob5o7b7o7b5obo$12bob6ob3o3b2ob2o3b3ob6obo$12bo3b3o6bo2bobo2bo6b
3o3bo$12b5obobob3o2b2ob2o2b3obobob5o$13b3ob2o3b3ob7ob3o3b2ob3o$13bo3b
2o4b2ob2obob2ob2o4b2o3bo$13bobob2o5b5ob5o5b2obobo$12b4ob2o2bob6ob6obo
2b2ob4o$12b3o3bob2ob4ob3ob4ob2obo3b3o$12b7o4b2obobobobob2o4b7o$11b2o4b
2obo2b2obobobobob2o2bob2o4b2o$12b6ob2o3bob2o3b2obo3b2ob6o$10b2ob2o2b2o
3b4ob2ob2ob4o3b2o2b2ob2o$11b4ob3o2bobo3b2ob2o3bobo2b3ob4o$3b2obo4b4o2b
3obo3b4ob4o3bob3o2b4o4bob2o$bo4bo4bo3b3o2bo2bobob5obobo2bo2b3o3bo4bo4b
o$2b4ob3o2b4obo2bo2b5obob5o2bo2bob4o2b3ob4o$2b4obo2b3ob5o2bo15bo2b5ob
3o2bob4o$2b6obo2b3ob3ob2o3b3o3b3o3b2ob3ob3o2bob6o$2b4obo5b4o2b2obo13bo
b2o2b4o5bob4o$2b4o4bobo3bob2ob2o3bob3obo3b2ob2obo3bobo4b4o$2bobo2b2o4b
o9b2o2bo3bo2b2o9bo4b2o2bobo$2bob4o4bo4b10ob3ob10o4bo4b4obo$2bobobo3bob
2o2bo2bo2b2o3b5o3b2o2bo2bo2b2obo3bobobo$bob4o7bob8obob5obob8obo7b4obo$
2bo2bobo3bob2o3b3ob2ob2ob3ob2ob2ob3o3b2obo3bobo2bo$4bob3obo2b3o3b4o2bo
b5obo2b4o3b3o2bob3obo$bo2b3ob3o3bo3bo4bo2bobobobo2bo4bo3bo3b3ob3o2bo$o
2b4ob3o6b3o2bobobo5bobobo2b3o6b3ob4o2bo$b4o3bo2b2o3bobo2b3o3b2ob2o3b3o
2bobo3b2o2bo3b4o$b4o2bob2o4bob4ob4o2bobo2b4ob4obo4b2obo2b4o$b6o2b2o4bo
7bobobo3bobobo7bo4b2o2b6o$b2ob3o12b5o2bo5bo2b5o12b3ob2o$b5ob6ob3o4b4ob
o2bo2bob4o4b3ob6ob5o$b5o2b7obob5o2bobobobobo2b5obob7o2b5o$b5o2b3obo2bo
b4o2b3o3bo3b3o2b4obo2bob3o2b5o$b3ob3ob2obo5b2ob3obob2ob2obob3ob2o5bob
2ob3ob3o$b5o3b2o6b8obo5bob8o6b2o3b5o$b3ob4obobo2bob3o5bo2bobo2bo5b3obo
2bobob4ob3o$b4ob2obo2bo3b3o3bo2bo2bobo2bo2bo3b3o3bo2bob2ob4o$2ob6ob3o
3b3o8bobobo8b3o3b3ob6ob2o$2bob4obo2bo3bobo3b3o9b3o3bobo3bo2bob4obo$2b
3ob2o2bo2bo3b4obo4bobobo4bob4o3bo2bo2b2ob3o$ob5obob3o2bo2b5o2b9o2b5o2b
o2b3obob5obo$2bo3b3o8b4obobo2b5o2bobob4o8b3o3bo$2bobobobo4bo2b6o3b2obo
bob2o3b6o2bo4bobobobo$o5bobob5o2b3ob2o3b3ob3o3b2ob3o2b5obobo5bo$4bobob
2o2b2obobob3o2b11o2b3obobob2o2b2obobo$6bo2bob7o2bo2bob3obob3obo2bo2b7o
bo2bo$3bo2b2o2b2ob3obobo4b3ob3ob3o4bobob3ob2o2b2o2bo$3bo3b7ob3obo5bob
5obo5bob3ob7o3bo$3b2o3b3o2b3o2b2obo2bobob3obobo2bob2o2b3o2b3o3b2o$3bob
3obobobobob3o2b2o2bob3obo2b2o2b3obobobobob3obo$3bob3obob2ob2ob2ob5ob3o
b3ob5ob2ob2ob2obob3obo$2bob4ob3o3b4o2b8ob8o2b4o3b3ob4obo$6b2ob5o3b2ob
3o2bob2ob2obo2b3ob2o3b5ob2o$b2o5b2o2bo2b2o3b5ob2o3b2ob5o3b2o2bo2b2o5b
2o$o2bo4b4o2b3o2b3ob3ob5ob3ob3o2b3o2b4o4bo2bo$b2o2b5ob3o5b3ob13ob3o5b
3ob5o2b2o$b6o3b3obo4b5o2b2o3b2o2b5o4bob3o3b6o$b3o2b3ob3o2bob3ob4o2b5o
2b4ob3obo2b3ob3o2b3o$b4o2b7o3b4ob3o2b5o2b3ob4o3b7o2b4o$b3o2bob2ob3o3bo
3b3obob5obob3o3bo3b3ob2obo2b3o$b2o2b4o3b9ob6obob6ob9o3b4o2b2o$b4ob3obo
5b4o2b2ob9ob2o2b4o5bob3ob4o$b3o2b4o6bob3ob7ob7ob3obo6b4o2b3o$b2ob3ob5o
3bobo2b3o4b3o4b3o2bobo3b5ob3ob2o$bo3b4obobo4bo2bo2bob9obo2bo2bo4bobob
4o3bo$b3ob2obob4o3b2obobob3obobob3obobob2o3b4obob2ob3o$b5obo2bob4ob5ob
6ob6ob5ob4obo2bob5o$b4o2bo3b3o2b2ob8obobob8ob2o2b3o3bo2b4o$b3o4bo2b3ob
2o2b2ob3obob3obob3ob2o2b2ob3o2bo4b3o$b5ob4obo3b2obob2o3b7o3b2obob2o3bo
b4ob5o$b2o6b3obob2obo4b3o2b3o2b3o4bob2obob3o6b2o$b4obob4o3b3o2bobo2b2o
b3ob2o2bobo2b3o3b4obob4o$b3ob5obo2bo5b2o2bob7obo2b2o5bo2bob5ob3o$b4o2b
obo5bo2bo2b2o2b3o3b3o2b2o2bo2bo5bobo2b4o$b7o3bo2bob3ob4obo7bob4ob3obo
2bo3b7o$b5ob3obo3b2o4bo2b3obobob3o2bo4b2o3bob3ob5o$b2o2b11o2b2obob3o2b
obo2b3obob2o2b11o2b2o$b3o2b6ob2obob2o3bob2obobob2obo3b2obob2ob6o2b3o$
2ob6o2b5obobo5bob5obo5bobob5o2b6ob2o$2bob2o2bo3b4o3bobobo2b7o2bobobo3b
4o3bo2b2obo$2b2o2b3o2bob2ob4ob2ob11ob2ob4ob2obo2b3o2b2o$2b2obob3o2b4ob
2obo2bo2b7o2bo2bob2ob4o2b3obob2o$2b8o4b3ob2o3b4ob3ob4o3b2ob3o4b8o$2bo
2bo2bobob7o8bo3bo8b7obobo2bo2bo$2b5obobobob2ob2o3bo4b5o4bo3b2ob2obobob
ob5o$2bob2o2b2o3bob2obo3b4obobobob4o3bob2obo3b2o2b2obo$2bobo2b4obobob
2obobob2o3bobo3b2obobob2obobob4o2bobo$2b2ob2obo4bob5o4bo2bo3bo2bo4b5ob
o4bob2ob2o$b5ob3o4bob27obo4b3ob5o$3b3o6bob2o2b8ob2ob2ob8o2b2obo6b3o$3b
3obo4bo2b29o2bo4bob3o$3b4obo6b5o4b11o4b5o6bob4o$2bob3obo7b2o2bo2b3ob2o
b2ob3o2bo2b2o7bob3obo$3bob2o7bob4o4b3o2bo2b3o4b4obo7b2obo$5b2o2bob2obo
2b2obobob2ob5ob2obobob2o2bob2obo2b2o$2bob2o4bo2bo2b3o2b17o2b3o2bo2bo4b
2obo$obo2b6o2bo2b2o4bob5ob5obo4b2o2bo2b6o2bobo$2b3o10bobob2ob15ob2obob
o10b3o$7bo2bo4bobobo2b6o3b6o2bobobo4bo2bo$4bob3o2bo5b2o2b3ob9ob3o2b2o
5bo2b3obo$3bo2bo2bo9bobob13obobo9bo2bo2bo$4bo3bobob2ob3o2bob2ob9ob2obo
2b3ob2obobo3bo$4bo3b2o2bo2b2obo2bo3b3obob3o3bo2bob2o2bo2b2o3bo$6bobob
4o2bo3b2ob3ob5ob3ob2o3bo2b4obobo$3b3o2bo2bo2b3o2bo2b4obo3bob4o2bo2b3o
2bo2bo2b3o$7bob2obo6bo2b6obob6o2bo6bob2obo$bo6bo2bo9bob3o2b3o2b3obo9bo
2bo6bo$o3bo3b2o3bob2o2bobobobobo3bobobobobo2b2obo3b2o3bo3bo!
Unfortunately, I don't have enough RAM (only 8GB) to try bigger width. Maybe it's worth trying on a machine with more RAM?
There is a thread dedicated to spaceships with speeds between c/2 and c (viewtopic.php?f=11&t=358), but there are no such good 3c/4 partials, except this by AforAmpere.
Edit: and I have a question: how to configure b2f 2c/3 (U/V/W/TILE_BITS)?
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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by wwei47 » July 10th, 2024, 12:25 am

May13 wrote:
July 9th, 2024, 10:07 pm
I found a healthy 3c/4 partial using LLSSS:

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x = 59, y = 139, rule = B2567/S14578
13bobo27bobo$13b2o2bo5bob2o5b2obo5bo2b2o$11b2ob2ob2ob2o5bo3bo5b2ob2ob
2ob2o$12b3obobo3b5ob3ob5o3bobob3o$12b3obo2bob4obo2bo2bob4obo2bob3o$12b
3o2bobo2bo2b4ob4o2bo2bobo2b3o$12b6o2bob3ob2o3b2ob3obo2b6o$11b2ob4o2b4o
b3o3b3ob4o2b4ob2o$13b5o2bo2bob4ob4obo2bo2b5o$13bo3b2obob2ob9ob2obob2o
3bo$13b2ob3ob6obo3bob6ob3ob2o$13b5o3b8ob8o3b5o$13b5o2b2ob5o3b5ob2o2b5o
$13b5o2b2o2b2o2b3o2b2o2b2o2b5o$13b3obobob4ob3ob3ob4obobob3o$13b5o2b3o
2bob5obo2b3o2b5o$13b7o2bo2b2ob3ob2o2bo2b7o$13b9ob13ob9o$13b3ob2ob4o3bo
3bo3b4ob2ob3o$13b4ob2obo3b9o3bob2ob4o$13b5ob4o6bo6b4ob5o$13b8ob2ob2o5b
2ob2ob8o$13b3ob2ob3ob2ob5ob2ob3ob2ob3o$13b3ob8ob2obob2ob8ob3o$13b2o4b
6obo5bob6o4b2o$11b8o3bob4o3b4obo3b8o$12b7o2b8ob8o2b7o$12b7o3bob11obo3b
7o$12bob5o7b7o7b5obo$12bob6ob3o3b2ob2o3b3ob6obo$12bo3b3o6bo2bobo2bo6b
3o3bo$12b5obobob3o2b2ob2o2b3obobob5o$13b3ob2o3b3ob7ob3o3b2ob3o$13bo3b
2o4b2ob2obob2ob2o4b2o3bo$13bobob2o5b5ob5o5b2obobo$12b4ob2o2bob6ob6obo
2b2ob4o$12b3o3bob2ob4ob3ob4ob2obo3b3o$12b7o4b2obobobobob2o4b7o$11b2o4b
2obo2b2obobobobob2o2bob2o4b2o$12b6ob2o3bob2o3b2obo3b2ob6o$10b2ob2o2b2o
3b4ob2ob2ob4o3b2o2b2ob2o$11b4ob3o2bobo3b2ob2o3bobo2b3ob4o$3b2obo4b4o2b
3obo3b4ob4o3bob3o2b4o4bob2o$bo4bo4bo3b3o2bo2bobob5obobo2bo2b3o3bo4bo4b
o$2b4ob3o2b4obo2bo2b5obob5o2bo2bob4o2b3ob4o$2b4obo2b3ob5o2bo15bo2b5ob
3o2bob4o$2b6obo2b3ob3ob2o3b3o3b3o3b2ob3ob3o2bob6o$2b4obo5b4o2b2obo13bo
b2o2b4o5bob4o$2b4o4bobo3bob2ob2o3bob3obo3b2ob2obo3bobo4b4o$2bobo2b2o4b
o9b2o2bo3bo2b2o9bo4b2o2bobo$2bob4o4bo4b10ob3ob10o4bo4b4obo$2bobobo3bob
2o2bo2bo2b2o3b5o3b2o2bo2bo2b2obo3bobobo$bob4o7bob8obob5obob8obo7b4obo$
2bo2bobo3bob2o3b3ob2ob2ob3ob2ob2ob3o3b2obo3bobo2bo$4bob3obo2b3o3b4o2bo
b5obo2b4o3b3o2bob3obo$bo2b3ob3o3bo3bo4bo2bobobobo2bo4bo3bo3b3ob3o2bo$o
2b4ob3o6b3o2bobobo5bobobo2b3o6b3ob4o2bo$b4o3bo2b2o3bobo2b3o3b2ob2o3b3o
2bobo3b2o2bo3b4o$b4o2bob2o4bob4ob4o2bobo2b4ob4obo4b2obo2b4o$b6o2b2o4bo
7bobobo3bobobo7bo4b2o2b6o$b2ob3o12b5o2bo5bo2b5o12b3ob2o$b5ob6ob3o4b4ob
o2bo2bob4o4b3ob6ob5o$b5o2b7obob5o2bobobobobo2b5obob7o2b5o$b5o2b3obo2bo
b4o2b3o3bo3b3o2b4obo2bob3o2b5o$b3ob3ob2obo5b2ob3obob2ob2obob3ob2o5bob
2ob3ob3o$b5o3b2o6b8obo5bob8o6b2o3b5o$b3ob4obobo2bob3o5bo2bobo2bo5b3obo
2bobob4ob3o$b4ob2obo2bo3b3o3bo2bo2bobo2bo2bo3b3o3bo2bob2ob4o$2ob6ob3o
3b3o8bobobo8b3o3b3ob6ob2o$2bob4obo2bo3bobo3b3o9b3o3bobo3bo2bob4obo$2b
3ob2o2bo2bo3b4obo4bobobo4bob4o3bo2bo2b2ob3o$ob5obob3o2bo2b5o2b9o2b5o2b
o2b3obob5obo$2bo3b3o8b4obobo2b5o2bobob4o8b3o3bo$2bobobobo4bo2b6o3b2obo
bob2o3b6o2bo4bobobobo$o5bobob5o2b3ob2o3b3ob3o3b2ob3o2b5obobo5bo$4bobob
2o2b2obobob3o2b11o2b3obobob2o2b2obobo$6bo2bob7o2bo2bob3obob3obo2bo2b7o
bo2bo$3bo2b2o2b2ob3obobo4b3ob3ob3o4bobob3ob2o2b2o2bo$3bo3b7ob3obo5bob
5obo5bob3ob7o3bo$3b2o3b3o2b3o2b2obo2bobob3obobo2bob2o2b3o2b3o3b2o$3bob
3obobobobob3o2b2o2bob3obo2b2o2b3obobobobob3obo$3bob3obob2ob2ob2ob5ob3o
b3ob5ob2ob2ob2obob3obo$2bob4ob3o3b4o2b8ob8o2b4o3b3ob4obo$6b2ob5o3b2ob
3o2bob2ob2obo2b3ob2o3b5ob2o$b2o5b2o2bo2b2o3b5ob2o3b2ob5o3b2o2bo2b2o5b
2o$o2bo4b4o2b3o2b3ob3ob5ob3ob3o2b3o2b4o4bo2bo$b2o2b5ob3o5b3ob13ob3o5b
3ob5o2b2o$b6o3b3obo4b5o2b2o3b2o2b5o4bob3o3b6o$b3o2b3ob3o2bob3ob4o2b5o
2b4ob3obo2b3ob3o2b3o$b4o2b7o3b4ob3o2b5o2b3ob4o3b7o2b4o$b3o2bob2ob3o3bo
3b3obob5obob3o3bo3b3ob2obo2b3o$b2o2b4o3b9ob6obob6ob9o3b4o2b2o$b4ob3obo
5b4o2b2ob9ob2o2b4o5bob3ob4o$b3o2b4o6bob3ob7ob7ob3obo6b4o2b3o$b2ob3ob5o
3bobo2b3o4b3o4b3o2bobo3b5ob3ob2o$bo3b4obobo4bo2bo2bob9obo2bo2bo4bobob
4o3bo$b3ob2obob4o3b2obobob3obobob3obobob2o3b4obob2ob3o$b5obo2bob4ob5ob
6ob6ob5ob4obo2bob5o$b4o2bo3b3o2b2ob8obobob8ob2o2b3o3bo2b4o$b3o4bo2b3ob
2o2b2ob3obob3obob3ob2o2b2ob3o2bo4b3o$b5ob4obo3b2obob2o3b7o3b2obob2o3bo
b4ob5o$b2o6b3obob2obo4b3o2b3o2b3o4bob2obob3o6b2o$b4obob4o3b3o2bobo2b2o
b3ob2o2bobo2b3o3b4obob4o$b3ob5obo2bo5b2o2bob7obo2b2o5bo2bob5ob3o$b4o2b
obo5bo2bo2b2o2b3o3b3o2b2o2bo2bo5bobo2b4o$b7o3bo2bob3ob4obo7bob4ob3obo
2bo3b7o$b5ob3obo3b2o4bo2b3obobob3o2bo4b2o3bob3ob5o$b2o2b11o2b2obob3o2b
obo2b3obob2o2b11o2b2o$b3o2b6ob2obob2o3bob2obobob2obo3b2obob2ob6o2b3o$
2ob6o2b5obobo5bob5obo5bobob5o2b6ob2o$2bob2o2bo3b4o3bobobo2b7o2bobobo3b
4o3bo2b2obo$2b2o2b3o2bob2ob4ob2ob11ob2ob4ob2obo2b3o2b2o$2b2obob3o2b4ob
2obo2bo2b7o2bo2bob2ob4o2b3obob2o$2b8o4b3ob2o3b4ob3ob4o3b2ob3o4b8o$2bo
2bo2bobob7o8bo3bo8b7obobo2bo2bo$2b5obobobob2ob2o3bo4b5o4bo3b2ob2obobob
ob5o$2bob2o2b2o3bob2obo3b4obobobob4o3bob2obo3b2o2b2obo$2bobo2b4obobob
2obobob2o3bobo3b2obobob2obobob4o2bobo$2b2ob2obo4bob5o4bo2bo3bo2bo4b5ob
o4bob2ob2o$b5ob3o4bob27obo4b3ob5o$3b3o6bob2o2b8ob2ob2ob8o2b2obo6b3o$3b
3obo4bo2b29o2bo4bob3o$3b4obo6b5o4b11o4b5o6bob4o$2bob3obo7b2o2bo2b3ob2o
b2ob3o2bo2b2o7bob3obo$3bob2o7bob4o4b3o2bo2b3o4b4obo7b2obo$5b2o2bob2obo
2b2obobob2ob5ob2obobob2o2bob2obo2b2o$2bob2o4bo2bo2b3o2b17o2b3o2bo2bo4b
2obo$obo2b6o2bo2b2o4bob5ob5obo4b2o2bo2b6o2bobo$2b3o10bobob2ob15ob2obob
o10b3o$7bo2bo4bobobo2b6o3b6o2bobobo4bo2bo$4bob3o2bo5b2o2b3ob9ob3o2b2o
5bo2b3obo$3bo2bo2bo9bobob13obobo9bo2bo2bo$4bo3bobob2ob3o2bob2ob9ob2obo
2b3ob2obobo3bo$4bo3b2o2bo2b2obo2bo3b3obob3o3bo2bob2o2bo2b2o3bo$6bobob
4o2bo3b2ob3ob5ob3ob2o3bo2b4obobo$3b3o2bo2bo2b3o2bo2b4obo3bob4o2bo2b3o
2bo2bo2b3o$7bob2obo6bo2b6obob6o2bo6bob2obo$bo6bo2bo9bob3o2b3o2b3obo9bo
2bo6bo$o3bo3b2o3bob2o2bobobobobo3bobobobobo2b2obo3b2o3bo3bo!
Could this rule be better?

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x = 18, y = 16, rule = B2568/S13458
16b2o2$16b2o$15bo$5bo2bo5b2obo$4b3o5b4obo$o3b3o2b3ob5o$2bob2o2b4obo2b
2o$4o2bo2b2o5bo$ob2o2b7ob2o$4o2bo2b5o2bo$2bob2o2b8o$o3b3o2b8o$4b3o10bo
$5bo2bo7b2o$17bo!
Currently trying to reduce the big P6 double sparker.
Replicator thread: viewtopic.php?f=11&t=6769
Fractal thread: viewtopic.php?f=12&t=6675

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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by amling » July 10th, 2024, 1:01 am

May13 wrote:
July 9th, 2024, 10:07 pm
Edit: and I have a question: how to configure b2f 2c/3 (U/V/W/TILE_BITS)?
"TILE_BITS"? That's ancient, ancient code! In the modern versions you just specify geometry "2c3-b2f" on the command line and that's all taken care of. Well, everything other than creating the input file so I guess you sort of have to know how it's going to be shaped.

It may be worth unpacking a layer of assumptions and explaining what you're trying to solve as searching b2f is not usually advisable.

As a very raw example this sort of thing could start doing WAO searches for backs (!) of 2c/3 ships in that rule. 1.in file contents:

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| ZZZ |     |     |
| ... | ... |     |
| ... | ... | ... |
|     | ... | ... |
Command:

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rlife llsss-recentering-wao --rule 'B2567/S14578' 2c3-b2f 1.in 00 --wao-left-pad 00 --wao-right-pad 00 --wao-idx ALL 10

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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by May13 » July 10th, 2024, 1:04 am

wwei47 wrote:
July 10th, 2024, 12:25 am
May13 wrote:
July 9th, 2024, 10:07 pm
I found a healthy 3c/4 partial using LLSSS:

Code: Select all

x = 59, y = 139, rule = B2567/S14578
13bobo27bobo$13b2o2bo5bob2o5b2obo5bo2b2o$11b2ob2ob2ob2o5bo3bo5b2ob2ob
2ob2o$12b3obobo3b5ob3ob5o3bobob3o$12b3obo2bob4obo2bo2bob4obo2bob3o$12b
3o2bobo2bo2b4ob4o2bo2bobo2b3o$12b6o2bob3ob2o3b2ob3obo2b6o$11b2ob4o2b4o
b3o3b3ob4o2b4ob2o$13b5o2bo2bob4ob4obo2bo2b5o$13bo3b2obob2ob9ob2obob2o
3bo$13b2ob3ob6obo3bob6ob3ob2o$13b5o3b8ob8o3b5o$13b5o2b2ob5o3b5ob2o2b5o
$13b5o2b2o2b2o2b3o2b2o2b2o2b5o$13b3obobob4ob3ob3ob4obobob3o$13b5o2b3o
2bob5obo2b3o2b5o$13b7o2bo2b2ob3ob2o2bo2b7o$13b9ob13ob9o$13b3ob2ob4o3bo
3bo3b4ob2ob3o$13b4ob2obo3b9o3bob2ob4o$13b5ob4o6bo6b4ob5o$13b8ob2ob2o5b
2ob2ob8o$13b3ob2ob3ob2ob5ob2ob3ob2ob3o$13b3ob8ob2obob2ob8ob3o$13b2o4b
6obo5bob6o4b2o$11b8o3bob4o3b4obo3b8o$12b7o2b8ob8o2b7o$12b7o3bob11obo3b
7o$12bob5o7b7o7b5obo$12bob6ob3o3b2ob2o3b3ob6obo$12bo3b3o6bo2bobo2bo6b
3o3bo$12b5obobob3o2b2ob2o2b3obobob5o$13b3ob2o3b3ob7ob3o3b2ob3o$13bo3b
2o4b2ob2obob2ob2o4b2o3bo$13bobob2o5b5ob5o5b2obobo$12b4ob2o2bob6ob6obo
2b2ob4o$12b3o3bob2ob4ob3ob4ob2obo3b3o$12b7o4b2obobobobob2o4b7o$11b2o4b
2obo2b2obobobobob2o2bob2o4b2o$12b6ob2o3bob2o3b2obo3b2ob6o$10b2ob2o2b2o
3b4ob2ob2ob4o3b2o2b2ob2o$11b4ob3o2bobo3b2ob2o3bobo2b3ob4o$3b2obo4b4o2b
3obo3b4ob4o3bob3o2b4o4bob2o$bo4bo4bo3b3o2bo2bobob5obobo2bo2b3o3bo4bo4b
o$2b4ob3o2b4obo2bo2b5obob5o2bo2bob4o2b3ob4o$2b4obo2b3ob5o2bo15bo2b5ob
3o2bob4o$2b6obo2b3ob3ob2o3b3o3b3o3b2ob3ob3o2bob6o$2b4obo5b4o2b2obo13bo
b2o2b4o5bob4o$2b4o4bobo3bob2ob2o3bob3obo3b2ob2obo3bobo4b4o$2bobo2b2o4b
o9b2o2bo3bo2b2o9bo4b2o2bobo$2bob4o4bo4b10ob3ob10o4bo4b4obo$2bobobo3bob
2o2bo2bo2b2o3b5o3b2o2bo2bo2b2obo3bobobo$bob4o7bob8obob5obob8obo7b4obo$
2bo2bobo3bob2o3b3ob2ob2ob3ob2ob2ob3o3b2obo3bobo2bo$4bob3obo2b3o3b4o2bo
b5obo2b4o3b3o2bob3obo$bo2b3ob3o3bo3bo4bo2bobobobo2bo4bo3bo3b3ob3o2bo$o
2b4ob3o6b3o2bobobo5bobobo2b3o6b3ob4o2bo$b4o3bo2b2o3bobo2b3o3b2ob2o3b3o
2bobo3b2o2bo3b4o$b4o2bob2o4bob4ob4o2bobo2b4ob4obo4b2obo2b4o$b6o2b2o4bo
7bobobo3bobobo7bo4b2o2b6o$b2ob3o12b5o2bo5bo2b5o12b3ob2o$b5ob6ob3o4b4ob
o2bo2bob4o4b3ob6ob5o$b5o2b7obob5o2bobobobobo2b5obob7o2b5o$b5o2b3obo2bo
b4o2b3o3bo3b3o2b4obo2bob3o2b5o$b3ob3ob2obo5b2ob3obob2ob2obob3ob2o5bob
2ob3ob3o$b5o3b2o6b8obo5bob8o6b2o3b5o$b3ob4obobo2bob3o5bo2bobo2bo5b3obo
2bobob4ob3o$b4ob2obo2bo3b3o3bo2bo2bobo2bo2bo3b3o3bo2bob2ob4o$2ob6ob3o
3b3o8bobobo8b3o3b3ob6ob2o$2bob4obo2bo3bobo3b3o9b3o3bobo3bo2bob4obo$2b
3ob2o2bo2bo3b4obo4bobobo4bob4o3bo2bo2b2ob3o$ob5obob3o2bo2b5o2b9o2b5o2b
o2b3obob5obo$2bo3b3o8b4obobo2b5o2bobob4o8b3o3bo$2bobobobo4bo2b6o3b2obo
bob2o3b6o2bo4bobobobo$o5bobob5o2b3ob2o3b3ob3o3b2ob3o2b5obobo5bo$4bobob
2o2b2obobob3o2b11o2b3obobob2o2b2obobo$6bo2bob7o2bo2bob3obob3obo2bo2b7o
bo2bo$3bo2b2o2b2ob3obobo4b3ob3ob3o4bobob3ob2o2b2o2bo$3bo3b7ob3obo5bob
5obo5bob3ob7o3bo$3b2o3b3o2b3o2b2obo2bobob3obobo2bob2o2b3o2b3o3b2o$3bob
3obobobobob3o2b2o2bob3obo2b2o2b3obobobobob3obo$3bob3obob2ob2ob2ob5ob3o
b3ob5ob2ob2ob2obob3obo$2bob4ob3o3b4o2b8ob8o2b4o3b3ob4obo$6b2ob5o3b2ob
3o2bob2ob2obo2b3ob2o3b5ob2o$b2o5b2o2bo2b2o3b5ob2o3b2ob5o3b2o2bo2b2o5b
2o$o2bo4b4o2b3o2b3ob3ob5ob3ob3o2b3o2b4o4bo2bo$b2o2b5ob3o5b3ob13ob3o5b
3ob5o2b2o$b6o3b3obo4b5o2b2o3b2o2b5o4bob3o3b6o$b3o2b3ob3o2bob3ob4o2b5o
2b4ob3obo2b3ob3o2b3o$b4o2b7o3b4ob3o2b5o2b3ob4o3b7o2b4o$b3o2bob2ob3o3bo
3b3obob5obob3o3bo3b3ob2obo2b3o$b2o2b4o3b9ob6obob6ob9o3b4o2b2o$b4ob3obo
5b4o2b2ob9ob2o2b4o5bob3ob4o$b3o2b4o6bob3ob7ob7ob3obo6b4o2b3o$b2ob3ob5o
3bobo2b3o4b3o4b3o2bobo3b5ob3ob2o$bo3b4obobo4bo2bo2bob9obo2bo2bo4bobob
4o3bo$b3ob2obob4o3b2obobob3obobob3obobob2o3b4obob2ob3o$b5obo2bob4ob5ob
6ob6ob5ob4obo2bob5o$b4o2bo3b3o2b2ob8obobob8ob2o2b3o3bo2b4o$b3o4bo2b3ob
2o2b2ob3obob3obob3ob2o2b2ob3o2bo4b3o$b5ob4obo3b2obob2o3b7o3b2obob2o3bo
b4ob5o$b2o6b3obob2obo4b3o2b3o2b3o4bob2obob3o6b2o$b4obob4o3b3o2bobo2b2o
b3ob2o2bobo2b3o3b4obob4o$b3ob5obo2bo5b2o2bob7obo2b2o5bo2bob5ob3o$b4o2b
obo5bo2bo2b2o2b3o3b3o2b2o2bo2bo5bobo2b4o$b7o3bo2bob3ob4obo7bob4ob3obo
2bo3b7o$b5ob3obo3b2o4bo2b3obobob3o2bo4b2o3bob3ob5o$b2o2b11o2b2obob3o2b
obo2b3obob2o2b11o2b2o$b3o2b6ob2obob2o3bob2obobob2obo3b2obob2ob6o2b3o$
2ob6o2b5obobo5bob5obo5bobob5o2b6ob2o$2bob2o2bo3b4o3bobobo2b7o2bobobo3b
4o3bo2b2obo$2b2o2b3o2bob2ob4ob2ob11ob2ob4ob2obo2b3o2b2o$2b2obob3o2b4ob
2obo2bo2b7o2bo2bob2ob4o2b3obob2o$2b8o4b3ob2o3b4ob3ob4o3b2ob3o4b8o$2bo
2bo2bobob7o8bo3bo8b7obobo2bo2bo$2b5obobobob2ob2o3bo4b5o4bo3b2ob2obobob
ob5o$2bob2o2b2o3bob2obo3b4obobobob4o3bob2obo3b2o2b2obo$2bobo2b4obobob
2obobob2o3bobo3b2obobob2obobob4o2bobo$2b2ob2obo4bob5o4bo2bo3bo2bo4b5ob
o4bob2ob2o$b5ob3o4bob27obo4b3ob5o$3b3o6bob2o2b8ob2ob2ob8o2b2obo6b3o$3b
3obo4bo2b29o2bo4bob3o$3b4obo6b5o4b11o4b5o6bob4o$2bob3obo7b2o2bo2b3ob2o
b2ob3o2bo2b2o7bob3obo$3bob2o7bob4o4b3o2bo2b3o4b4obo7b2obo$5b2o2bob2obo
2b2obobob2ob5ob2obobob2o2bob2obo2b2o$2bob2o4bo2bo2b3o2b17o2b3o2bo2bo4b
2obo$obo2b6o2bo2b2o4bob5ob5obo4b2o2bo2b6o2bobo$2b3o10bobob2ob15ob2obob
o10b3o$7bo2bo4bobobo2b6o3b6o2bobobo4bo2bo$4bob3o2bo5b2o2b3ob9ob3o2b2o
5bo2b3obo$3bo2bo2bo9bobob13obobo9bo2bo2bo$4bo3bobob2ob3o2bob2ob9ob2obo
2b3ob2obobo3bo$4bo3b2o2bo2b2obo2bo3b3obob3o3bo2bob2o2bo2b2o3bo$6bobob
4o2bo3b2ob3ob5ob3ob2o3bo2b4obobo$3b3o2bo2bo2b3o2bo2b4obo3bob4o2bo2b3o
2bo2bo2b3o$7bob2obo6bo2b6obob6o2bo6bob2obo$bo6bo2bo9bob3o2b3o2b3obo9bo
2bo6bo$o3bo3b2o3bob2o2bobobobobo3bobobobobo2b2obo3b2o3bo3bo!
Could this rule be better?

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x = 18, y = 16, rule = B2568/S13458
16b2o2$16b2o$15bo$5bo2bo5b2obo$4b3o5b4obo$o3b3o2b3ob5o$2bob2o2b4obo2b
2o$4o2bo2b2o5bo$ob2o2b7ob2o$4o2bo2b5o2bo$2bob2o2b8o$o3b3o2b8o$4b3o10bo
$5bo2bo7b2o$17bo!
w51 partial:

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x = 130, y = 78, rule = B2568/S13458
22b5o75b5o$22bo3bo75bo3bo$22b5o75b5o$22b5o75b5o$20b2o2bo2b2o71b2o2bo2b
2o$19bob7obo69bob7obo$20b4ob4o71b4ob4o$20b3o3b3o71b3o3b3o$18bobo2b3o2b
obo67bobo2b3o2bobo$22bobobo75bobobo$19bo2b5o2bo69bo2b5o2bo$16bo4bo5bo
4bo63bo4bo5bo4bo$14bo2b3obo5bob3o2bo59bo2b3obo5bob3o2bo$16bo3b9o3bo63b
o3b9o3bo$13bob3ob2ob5ob2ob3obo57bob3ob2ob5ob2ob3obo$13bobo2bob3o3b3obo
2bobo57bobo2bob3o3b3obo2bobo$12bobo2bob4obob4obo2bobo55bobo2bob4obob4o
bo2bobo$13b3o3b3ob3ob3o3b3o57b3o3b3ob3ob3o3b3o$13b5o3b3ob3o3b5o57b5o3b
3ob3o3b5o$10bob3o3b2ob3ob3ob2o3b3obo51bob3o3b2ob3ob3ob2o3b3obo$9bob3o
2bob2obobobobob2obo2b3obo49bob3o2bob2obobobobob2obo2b3obo$10bobobo2b
15o2bobobo51bobobo2b15o2bobobo$9bobo2b4ob2ob5ob2ob4o2bobo49bobo2b4ob2o
b5ob2ob4o2bobo$7bo2bob2ob2o3bob5obo3b2ob2obo2bo45bo2bob2ob2o3bob5obo3b
2ob2obo2bo$6b7o2b2ob2obob3obob2ob2o2b7o43b7o2b2ob2obob3obob2ob2o2b7o$
5b2o2bobob3obo2b2o5b2o2bob3obobo2b2o41b2o2bobob3obo2b2o5b2o2bob3obobo
2b2o$6bobo2bo2b3ob6ob6ob3o2bo2bobo43bobo2bo2b3ob6ob6ob3o2bo2bobo$4b5ob
7ob3o3bo3b3ob7ob5o39b5ob7ob3o3bo3b3ob7ob5o$5bo2bobo2bobob4o2b3o2b4obob
o2bobo2bo41bo2bobo2bobob4o2b3o2b4obobo2bobo2bo$5bo6b2o4b3o3bo3b3o4b2o
6bo41bo6b2o4b3o3bo3b3o4b2o6bo$5b2obo3b3o3bobo2b3o2bobo3b3o3bob2o41b2ob
o3b3o3bobo2b3o2bobo3b3o3bob2o$5b3o3b2obob4obo2bo2bob4obob2o3b3o41b3o3b
2obob4obo2bo2bob4obob2o3b3o$5bo5b2ob3o3bo2b3o2bo3b3ob2o5bo41bo5b2ob3o
3bo2b3o2bo3b3ob2o5bo$5bo7b4o2bo4bo4bo2b4o7bo41bo7b4o2bo4bo4bo2b4o7bo$
5b2o5bob5o3b2ob2o3b5obo5b2o41b2o5bob5o3b2ob2o3b5obo5b2o$5bob3obo3b3obo
4bo4bob3o3bob3obo41bob3obo3b3obo4bo4bob3o3bob3obo$5bob3o2bo2b2ob2o9b2o
b2o2bo2b3obo41bob3o2bo2b2ob2o9b2ob2o2bo2b3obo$5b5o5bo2b5obob5o2bo5b5o
41b5o5bo2b5obob5o2bo5b5o$5b5o3b3ob3ob2o3b2ob3ob3o3b5o41b5o3b3ob3ob2o3b
2ob3ob3o3b5o$5b5o4bo4b11o4bo4b5o41b5o4bo4b11o4bo4b5o$5b4obobobo2bo3b3o
b3o3bo2bobobob4o41b4obobobo2bo3b3ob3o3bo2bobobob4o$5bob2ob2obo2bo2b11o
2bo2bob2ob2obo41bob2ob2obo2bo2b11o2bo2bob2ob2obo$5b2o5bobobobo2bo2bo2b
o2bobobobo5b2o41b2o5bobobobo2bo2bo2bo2bobobobo5b2o$5b2o3b3o2b2o3b9o3b
2o2b3o3b2o41b2o3b3o2b2o3b9o3b2o2b3o3b2o$5bo2b9o3b2o5b2o3b9o2bo41bo2b9o
3b2o5b2o3b9o2bo$5b2ob5o2b2o3bobobobobo3b2o2b5ob2o41b2ob5o2b2o3bobobobo
bo3b2o2b5ob2o$5b6o4b2obobobobobobobob2o4b6o41b6o4b2obobobobobobobob2o
4b6o$5b3ob6ob6o2bo2b6ob6ob3o41b3ob6ob6o2bo2b6ob6ob3o$5bobobob2o4b2obob
2ob2obob2o4b2obobobo41bobobob2o4b2obob2ob2obob2o4b2obobobo$6b4o2b4o2b
3o3bo3b3o2b4o2b4o43b4o2b4o2b3o3bo3b3o2b4o2b4o$6bo3b3o3bo4b2obob2o4bo3b
3o3bo43bo3b3o3bo4b2obob2o4bo3b3o3bo$5b2ob2ob2o3b3o2bob3obo2b3o3b2ob2ob
2o41b2ob2ob2o3b3o2bob3obo2b3o3b2ob2ob2o$3b4o3bo2bo5b3o5b3o5bo2bo3b4o
37b4o3bo2bo5b3o5b3o5bo2bo3b4o$4bob3o2bo2bo2bo6bo6bo2bo2bo2b3obo39bob3o
2bo2bo2bo6bo6bo2bo2bo2b3obo$4b4ob2obo2b5o2bo3bo2b5o2bob2ob4o39b4ob2obo
2b5o2bo3bo2b5o2bob2ob4o$4b2o2bo2bobo2b2o2b2o5b2o2b2o2bobo2bo2b2o39b2o
2bo2bobo2b2o2b2o5b2o2b2o2bobo2bo2b2o$4b2o2bo4b2obobobo2bobo2bobobob2o
4bo2b2o39b2o2bo4b2obobobo2bobo2bobobob2o4bo2b2o$4bob6o6b4obobob4o6b6ob
o39bob6o6b4obobob4o6b6obo$4bob2obo2b2ob2o2b3o2bo2b3o2b2ob2o2bob2obo39b
ob2obo2b2ob2o2b3o2bo2b3o2b2ob2o2bob2obo$3bob3o6bo6bo2bo2bo6bo6b3obo37b
ob3o6bo6bo2bo2bo6bo6b3obo$2bobo3bobobo2bo3b3obobob3o3bo2bobobo3bobo35b
obo3bobobo2bo3b3obobob3o3bo2bobobo3bobo$bob2o3bo2b2obob3o4b3o4b3obob2o
2bo3b2obo32bob3o3bo2b2obob3o4b3o4b3obob2o2bo3b3obo$2bo2bobo2b5o2bo5bob
o5bo2b5o2bobo2bo33b5ob2o2b5o2bo5bobo5bo2b5o2b2ob5o$2b3obobobo4b2obo2bo
bobobo2bob2o4bobobob3o33bo2b7o5b2obo2bobobobo2bob2o5b7o2bo$2b5o2b4o2b
3ob2o2bobo2b2ob3o2b4o2b5o33bo3b3obo2b2o2b3ob2o2bobo2b2ob3o2b2o2bob3o3b
o$2ob6ob2ob9obobob9ob2ob6ob2o30b2o2bo2b3o5b3ob4obobob4ob3o5b3o2bo2b2o$
bob2obo3bo3b2ob2ob4ob4ob2ob2o3bo3bob2obo32bobo3bo2b5obo3b5ob5o3bob5o2b
o3bobo$b2o2bo3bob2ob4o2b4ob4o2b4ob2obo3bo2b2o32b3ob5o4b9o2bo2b9o4b5ob
3o$b3obob2obo3b5ob9ob5o3bob2obob3o31b2obob2obobob2ob3o5b5o5b3ob2obobob
2obob2o$ob3ob3o4bob5o2b2ob2o2b5obo4b3ob3obo31bo2b3obo2b2ob4ob2o2b5o2b
2ob4ob2o2bob3o2bo$bo2b5obo2bob3o2b2ob3ob2o2b3obo2bob5o2bo32bob2ob3o2b
5ob3o3bo3bo3b3ob5o2b3ob2obo$79bob2o2b3o2b3ob3ob3o2bobo2b3ob3ob3o2b3o2b
2obo$82b3o4b2o2b3o2bobo2b3o2bobo2b3o2b2o4b3o$82bobo2bob3o3bo2b2ob7ob2o
2bo3b3obo2bobo$80b2o5b4o3b3ob2o4bo4b2ob3o3b4o5b2o$80bobob3o2bob9ob2o3b
2ob9obo2b3obobo$80bobo2b7o2b3o2b5ob5o2b3o2b7o2bobo$79b8ob5obo7b2ob2o7b
ob5ob8o!
I don't quite like 3c/4 partial in B2568/S13458, and here's why:
B2568/S13458: V-shaped partial that tends to grow but never shrink.
B2567/S14578: well-formed straight sides, partials are supported by rectangular clusters of cells.
Edit: I will try newer version of rlife.
No matter what happens, I always come back!

Spaceship databases:
hex-gliders.db (668 gliders, hexagonal grid)
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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by confocaloid » July 21st, 2024, 7:24 am

(Idea from a basic question)
Is there a statorless trivial p6 oscillator where the p2 part interacts with the p3 part?
Like Trivial p6-1, but statorless.
muzik wrote:
July 21st, 2024, 6:49 am
Do any oscillators exist with volatility 1 but strict volatility 0, that aren't just unions of two non-interacting 100% volatile oscillators?
amling wrote:
January 3rd, 2024, 10:50 pm
Has anyone produced a "trivial p10" like "trivial p6-1" where the p5 and p2 parts touch but there is no p10 cell? I had started looking into this but even normal p5 searches are pretty awful for LLSSS. [...]

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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by amling » July 21st, 2024, 2:38 pm

confocaloid wrote:
July 21st, 2024, 7:24 am
(Idea from a basic question)
Is there a statorless trivial p6 oscillator where the p2 part interacts with the p3 part?
Like Trivial p6-1, but statorless.
muzik wrote:
July 21st, 2024, 6:49 am
Do any oscillators exist with volatility 1 but strict volatility 0, that aren't just unions of two non-interacting 100% volatile oscillators?
amling wrote:
January 3rd, 2024, 10:50 pm
Has anyone produced a "trivial p10" like "trivial p6-1" where the p5 and p2 parts touch but there is no p10 cell? I had started looking into this but even normal p5 searches are pretty awful for LLSSS. [...]
The laziest and most obvious way to take this on is similarly to how I was searching for trivial oscillators earlier: divide the world into north p2 and south p3 and fix some non-zero touching cells at the boundary. Unfortunately, neither of these constraint files are solvable at any width (with statorless constraint and p3 off the bottom of the grid):

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| LLLMRRR | LLLMRRR | LLLMRRR | LLLMRRR | LLLMRRR | LLLMRRR |
| 3333333 | 3333333 | 3333333 | 3333333 | 3333333 | 3333333 |
| 3333333 | 3333333 | 3333333 | 3333333 | 3333333 | 3333333 |
| 333.333 | 333*333 | 333.333 | 333*333 | 333.333 | 333*333 |
| 222.222 | 222*222 | 2222222 | 222.222 | 222*222 | 2222222 |

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| LLLABRRR | LLLABRRR | LLLABRRR | LLLABRRR | LLLABRRR | LLLABRRR |
| 33333333 | 33333333 | 33333333 | 33333333 | 33333333 | 33333333 |
| 33333333 | 33333333 | 33333333 | 33333333 | 33333333 | 33333333 |
| 333.3333 | 333*3333 | 333.3333 | 333*3333 | 333.3333 | 333*3333 |
| 2222.222 | 2222*222 | 22222222 | 2222.222 | 2222*222 | 22222222 |
It's possible that by not doing the strict north p2 and south p3 division there could still exist a trivial statorless p6, but I cannot think of a way to search something like it without some icky custom constraint code (to constrain every cell to statorless-p2-or-p3 without constraining specific sides).

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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by confocaloid » July 29th, 2024, 10:22 pm

Here is another puzzle that is unsolved, as far as I know. Can a sparking wick (period >= 4) with fenceposts be found, to complete the following reaction into a diagonal 5c/26 wire?
The dot sparks must appear in the shown generations (9, 22, 35, 48, 61, ...) and the same sparking wick could be used on both sides.

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x = 39, y = 37, rule = LifeHistory
26.D.B2C$28.B2CB4.B$27.6B.4B$27.2B2CB.B2CB2C$28.B2CB.B2CB2C$21.D.B2C
3.2B3.5B$23.B2CB4.B3.2B$22.6B.4B5.D$5.D.D.3D10.2B2CB.B2CB2C$5.D.D.D.D
11.B2CB.B2CB2C$5.3D.3D4.D.B2C3.2B3.5B$7.D.D.D6.B2CB4.B3.2B$7.D.3D5.6B
.4B5.D$17.2B2CB.B2CB2C$3D.3D11.B2CB.B2CB2C$2.D3.D4.D.B2C3.2B3.5B$3D.
3D6.B2CB4.B3.2B$D3.D7.6B.4B5.D$3D.3D5.2B2CB.B2CB2C$13.B2CB.B2CB2C$6.D
.B2C3.2B3.5B$8.B2CB4.B3.2B$7.6B.4B5.D5.3D2.D$7.2B2CB.B2CB2C10.D3.2D$
8.B2CB.B2CB2C10.3D2.D$9.2B3.5B10.D.D2.D$11.B3.2B12.3D.3D$2.3D2.C.4B5.
D.3D.3D$2.D.D3.B2CB2C8.D.D$2.D.D3.B2CB2C6.3D.3D$2.D.D4.5B8.D3.D$2.3D
5.2B8.3D.3D$13.D.3D$15.D.D$15.3D$17.D$15.3D!
Here is a demo pattern showing how a pulse would move along, with dot sparks created by gliders hitting barges:

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x = 113, y = 107, rule = B3/S23
obo$b2o$bo9$2bo$3b2o$2b2o7$76b2o$76b2o2$3bobo$4b2o$4bo70b2o$76bo$76b3o
7$5bo$6b2o$5b2o$75b2o4b2o$75b2o4b2o3$57b2o$57b2o17b2o$76b2o2b2o$80bobo
$58b2o22bo$6bobo48bo2bo21b2o$7b2o37bo10bo2bo$7bo37bobo10b2o$44bobo3b2o
$45bo4b2o2$41bo8b2o3b2ob2o$40bobo7b2o3b2ob2o$39bobo3b2o$40bo4b2o$60bo$
8bo27bo8b2o3b2ob2o4bobo$9b2o24bobo7b2o3b2ob2o3bobo$8b2o24bobo3b2o17bo$
35bo4b2o$55bo$31bo8b2o3b2ob2o4bobo$30bobo7b2o3b2ob2o3bobo$29bobo3b2o
17bo$30bo4b2o$50bo$26bo8b2o3b2ob2o4bobo$25bobo7b2o3b2ob2o3bobo$9bobo
12bobo3b2o17bo$10b2o13bo4b2o$10bo34bo$21bo8b2o3b2ob2o4bobo$20bobo7b2o
3b2ob2o3bobo$19bobo3b2o17bo$20bo4b2o$40bo$16bo8b2o3b2ob2o4bobo$15bobo
7b2o3b2ob2o3bobo$14bobo3b2o17bo$15bo4b2o$35bo$20b2o3b2ob2o4bobo$20b2o
3b2ob2o3bobo$34bo2$18bo11bo$20b2ob2o4bobo$20b2ob2o3bobo$29bo2$25bo$24b
obo$23bobo$24bo4b3o$29bo11b2o$30bo10bobo$41bo10b3o$52bo11b2o$53bo10bob
o$64bo10b3o$75bo11b2o$76bo10bobo$87bo10b3o$98bo11b2o$99bo10bobo$110bo!
Below is a p4 partial I found using Logic Life Search. The "surface" of the partial survives long enough to illustrate interactions with two moving pulses (indicated with arrows):

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x = 150, y = 92, rule = B3/S23
103b2o3bo6bo4bo3bo3b2obo2bobob2o3bo$90b2ob2o3b2o7b3o9bob2o3b3o2bo2b2ob
o3bob2obo2bo$90b2ob2o3b2o11b3o2b2o4bo3b6o3b5o3bo2bo$104b2o3bobo7b2o19b
obo$98b2o5bo4b2o4b4o2b3obo3b5o2b2o$98b2o2bo8bo3bo3bo3b2o6bobo2b3ob2o$
85b2ob2o3b2o8b5o4bo2bob2o3bo4bob2obo$85b2ob2o3b2o9b4o5bo5bo4b3o4bob5o$
55b2o42b2o4bo6bob2obobob2o13b2o2bo$55b3o2bo32b2o3bobo4bobo3bob2o2bo6b
2obo3bobo3b3o$56b3o34b2o3bo6bo4bo3bo3b2obo2bobob2o3bo$57b3o3b2o15b2ob
2o3b2o7b3o9bob2o3b3o2bo2b2obo3bob2obo2bo$58b3o2b2o15b2ob2o3b2o11b3o2b
2o4bo3b6o3b5o3bo2bo$56bo2b3ob2o29b2o3bobo7b2o19bobo$60b5o23b2o5bo4b2o
4b4o2b3obo3b5o2b2o$61b4o23b2o2bo8bo3bo3bo3b2o6bobo2b3ob2o$58b7o10b2ob
2o3b2o8b5o4bo2bob2o3bo4bob2obo$58b7o10b2ob2o3b2o9b4o5bo5bo4b3o4bob5o$
89b2o4bo6bob2obobob2o13b2o2bo$83b2o3bobo4bobo3bob2o2bo6b2obo3bobo3b3o$
83b2o3bo6bo4bo3bo3b2obo2bobob2o3bo$70b2ob2o3b2o7b3o9bob2o3b3o2bo2b2obo
3bob2obo2bo$70b2ob2o3b2o11b3o2b2o4bo3b6o3b5o3bo2bo$40b2o42b2o3bobo7b2o
19bobo$40b3o2bo32b2o5bo4b2o4b4o2b3obo3b5o2b2o$41b3o29bo4b2o2bo8bo3bo3b
o3b2o6bobo2b3ob2o$42b3o3b2o15b2ob2o2bo10b5o4bo2bob2o3bo4bob2obo$43b3o
2b2o15b2ob2o3bo10b4o5bo5bo4b3o4bob5o$41bo2b3ob2o29b2o4bo6bob2obobob2o
13b2o2bo$45b5o23b2o3bobo4bobo3bob2o2bo6b2obo3bobo3b3o$46b4o23b2o3bo6bo
4bo3bo3b2obo2bobob2o3bo$43b7o10b2ob2o3b2o7b3o9bob2o3b3o2bo2b2obo3bob2o
bo2bo$43b7o10b2ob2o3b2o11b3o2b2o4bo3b6o3b5o3bo2bo$74b2o3bobo7b2o19bobo
$68b2o5bo4b2o4b4o2b3obo3b5o2b2o$68b2o2bo8bo3bo3bo3b2o6bobo2b3ob2o$55b
2ob2o3b2o8b5o4bo2bob2o3bo4bob2obo$55b2ob2o3b2o9b4o5bo5bo4b3o4bob5o$69b
2o4bo6bob2obobob2o13b2o2bo$63b2o3bobo4bobo3bob2o2bo6b2obo3bobo3b3o$58b
o4b2o3bo6bo4bo3bo3b2obo2bobob2o3bo$50b2ob2o3b2o7b3o9bob2o3b3o2bo2b2obo
3bob2obo2bo$50b2ob2o3b2o11b3o2b2o4bo3b6o3b5o3bo2bo$64b2o3bobo7b2o19bob
o$58b2o5bo4b2o4b4o2b3obo3b5o2b2o$58b2o2bo8bo3bo3bo3b2o6bobo2b3ob2o$45b
2ob2o3b2o8b5o4bo2bob2o3bo4bob2obo$45b2ob2o3b2o9b4o5bo5bo4b3o4bob5o$59b
2o4bo6bob2obobob2o13b2o2bo$53b2o3bobo4bobo3bob2o2bo6b2obo3bobo3b3o$53b
2o3bo6bo4bo3bo3b2obo2bobob2o3bo$40b2ob2o3b2o7b3o9bob2o3b3o2bo2b2obo3bo
b2obo2bo$40b2ob2o3b2o11b3o2b2o4bo3b6o3b5o3bo2bo$54b2o3bobo7b2o19bobo$
48b2o5bo4b2o4b4o2b3obo3b5o2b2o$48b2o2bo8bo3bo3bo3b2o6bobo2b3ob2o$35b2o
b2o3b2o8b5o4bo2bob2o3bo4bob2obo$35b2ob2o3b2o9b4o5bo5bo4b3o4bob5o$49b2o
4bo6bob2obobob2o13b2o2bo$43b2o3bobo4bobo3bob2o2bo6b2obo3bobo3b3o$43b2o
3bo6bo4bo3bo3b2obo2bobob2o3bo$30b2ob2o3b2o7b3o9bob2o3b3o2bo2b2obo3bob
2obo2bo$30b2ob2o3b2o11b3o2b2o4bo3b6o3b5o3bo2bo$44b2o3bobo7b2o19bobo$
38b2o5bo4b2o4b4o2b3obo3b5o2b2o$38b2o2bo8bo3bo3bo3b2o6bobo2b3ob2o$25b2o
b2o3b2o8b5o4bo2bob2o3bo4bob2obo$25b2ob2o3b2o9b4o5bo5bo4b3o4bob5o$39b2o
4bo6bob2obobob2o13b2o2bo$33b2o3bobo4bobo3bob2o2bo6b2obo3bobo3b3o$33b2o
3bo6bo4bo3bo3b2obo2bobob2o3bo$20b2ob2o3b2o7b3o9bob2o3b3o2bo2b2obo3bob
2obo2bo$20b2ob2o3b2o11b3o2b2o4bo3b6o3b5o3bo2bo$34b2o3bobo7b2o19bobo$
28b2o5bo4b2o4b4o2b3obo3b5o2b2o$28b2o2bo8bo3bo3bo3b2o6bobo2b3ob2o$15b2o
b2o3b2o8b5o4bo2bob2o3bo4bob2obo$15b2ob2o3b2o9b4o5bo5bo4b3o4bob5o$29b2o
4bo6bob2obobob2o13b2o2bo$23b2o3bobo4bobo3bob2o2bo6b2obo3bobo3b3o$23b2o
3bo6bo4bo3bo3b2obo2bobob2o3bo$10b2ob2o3b2o7b3o9bob2o3b3o2bo2b2obo3bob
2obo2bo$10b2ob2o3b2o11b3o2b2o4bo3b6o3b5o3bo2bo$24b2o3bobo7b2o19bobo$
18b2o5bo4b2o4b4o2b3obo3b5o2b2o$18b2o2bo8bo3bo3bo3b2o6bobo2b3ob2o$5b2ob
2o3b2o8b5o4bo2bob2o3bo4bob2obo$5b2ob2o3b2o9b4o5bo5bo4b3o4bob5o$19b2o4b
o6bob2obobob2o13b2o2bo$13b2o3bobo4bobo3bob2o2bo6b2obo3bobo3b3o$13b2o3b
o6bo4bo3bo3b2obo2bobob2o3bo$2ob2o3b2o7b3o9bob2o3b3o2bo2b2obo3bob2obo2b
o!
The partial was found with added assumptions/requirements that are not necessary:
(a) the wick has period 4,
(b) the wick is unaffected by a translation by 10 cells diagonally,
(c) 2 ticks later, the wick reappears translated by 5 cells diagonally.
There might be a solution that does not meet (c). There might be a solution that does not meet (b) (i.e. "spatial period" 15 cells or higher), even if 10 cells happens to be impossible.
I think the period of the wick must be at least 4, but higher periods (p5, p6, ...) would work too.

Finally, as another illustration, below is a working solution outside Conway's Life. It uses separate thin sparkers instead of a wick, so fenceposts were not needed here.

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x = 146, y = 150, rule = B3/S23-q
141bo$140bo$140b3o7$86bo49bo$84bobo49bobo$85b2o49b2o8$87b2o$83b2o3bo$
83bo2bo$85b3o2$82b2o3b3o$78b2o3bo2bobobo$78bo2bo4b2ob2o$80b3o6b6o$92b
3o$77b2o3b3o10b2o$73b2o3bo2bo2bo$73bo2bo4bob2o3bo6bo$75b3o4b3o3bo5bo$
84bo3bobo4bobo$72b2o3b3o9b3o5bo$68b2o3bo2bobobo9b2o3bobo$68bo2bo4b2ob
2o8bo4bo2bo3b2o$70b3o6b6o5b2o3b2o4b2o$82b3o$67b2o3b3o10b2o4bobo7b2o3b
2ob2o$63b2o3bo2bo2bo16bo9b2o3b2ob2o$63bo2bo4bob2o3bo6bo4bo2bo2b2o$65b
3o4b3o3bo5bo5b2o4b2o$74bo3bobo4bobo$62b2o3b3o9b3o5bo8b2o3b2ob2o4bob2o$
58b2o3bo2bobobo9b2o3bobo8b2o3b2ob2o3bobobo2bobo$58bo2bo4b2ob2o8bo4bo2b
o3b2o16b3ob2o3bo$60b3o6b6o5b2o3b2o4b2o22bo$72b3o31b2o10b2o$57b2o3b3o
10b2o4bobo7b2o3b2ob2o4b3o11bo$53b2o3bo2bo2bo16bo9b2o3b2ob2o3bo3b2obo$
53bo2bo4bob2o3bo6bo4bo2bo2b2o16bo4bob2o6b3o$55b3o4b3o3bo5bo5b2o4b2o17b
o3bo2bobo3bo3bo$64bo3bobo4bobo34bo2bo6bo3b2o$52b2o3b3o9b3o5bo8b2o3b2ob
2o4bob2o11bo3bo2bobo2bo$48b2o3bo2bobobo9b2o3bobo8b2o3b2ob2o3bobobo2bob
o11b2o2b2o$48bo2bo4b2ob2o8bo4bo2bo3b2o16b3ob2o3bo4bo2bo7bo$50b3o6b6o5b
2o3b2o4b2o22bo8bo2bo8bo$62b3o31b2o10b2o4bo2bo3b2o2b2o16b3o$47b2o3b3o
10b2o4bobo7b2o3b2ob2o4b3o11bo5bobobo2bo20bo$43b2o3bo2bo2bo16bo9b2o3b2o
b2o3bo3b2obo13b2o2b2o23bo$43bo2bo4bob2o3bo6bo4bo2bo2b2o16bo4bob2o6b3o
7bo$45b3o4b3o3bo5bo5b2o4b2o17bo3bo2bobo3bo3bo8bo$54bo3bobo4bobo34bo2bo
6bo3b2o2b2o$42b2o3b3o9b3o5bo8b2o3b2ob2o4bob2o11bo3bo2bobo2bo$38b2o3bo
2bobobo9b2o3bobo8b2o3b2ob2o3bobobo2bobo11b2o2b2o$38bo2bo4b2ob2o8bo4bo
2bo3b2o16b3ob2o3bo4bo2bo7bo$40b3o6b6o5b2o3b2o4b2o22bo8bo2bo8bo$52b3o
31b2o10b2o4bo2bo3b2o2b2o$37b2o3b3o10b2o4bobo7b2o3b2ob2o4b3o11bo5bobobo
2bo$33b2o3bo2bo2bo16bo9b2o3b2ob2o3bo3b2obo13b2o2b2o$33bo2bo4bob2o3bo6b
o4bo2bo2b2o16bo4bob2o6b3o7bo$35b3o4b3o3bo5bo5b2o4b2o17bo3bo2bobo3bo3bo
8bo$44bo3bobo4bobo34bo2bo6bo3b2o2b2o$32b2o3b3o9b3o5bo8b2o3b2ob2o4bob2o
11bo3bo2bobo2bo$28b2o3bo2bobobo9b2o3bobo8b2o3b2ob2o3bobobo2bobo11b2o2b
2o$28bo2bo4b2ob2o8bo4bo2bo3b2o16b3ob2o3bo4bo2bo7bo$30b3o6b6o5b2o3b2o4b
2o22bo8bo2bo8bo$42b3o31b2o10b2o4bo2bo3b2o2b2o$27b2o3b3o10b2o4bobo7b2o
3b2ob2o4b3o11bo5bobobo2bo$obo20b2o3bo2bo2bo16bo9b2o3b2ob2o3bo3b2obo13b
2o2b2o$b2o20bo2bo4bob2o3bo6bo4bo2bo2b2o16bo4bob2o6b3o7bo$bo23b3o4b3o3b
o5bo5b2o4b2o17bo3bo2bobo3bo3bo8bo$34bo3bobo4bobo34bo2bo6bo3b2o2b2o$6bo
bo13b2o3b3o9b3o5bo8b2o3b2ob2o4bob2o11bo3bo2bobo2bo$7b2o9b2o3bo2bobobo
9b2o3bobo8b2o3b2ob2o3bobobo2bobo11b2o2b2o$7bo10bo2bo4b2ob2o8bo4bo2bo3b
2o16b3ob2o3bo4bo2bo7bo$20b3o6b6o5b2o3b2o4b2o22bo8bo2bo8bo$32b3o31b2o
10b2o4bo2bo3b2o2b2o$22b3o10b2o4bobo7b2o3b2ob2o4b3o11bo5bobobo2bo$21bo
2bo16bo9b2o3b2ob2o3bo3b2obo13b2o2b2o$21bob2o3bo6bo4bo2bo2b2o16bo4bob2o
6b3o7bo$22b3o3bo5bo5b2o4b2o17bo3bo2bobo3bo3bo8bo$24bo3bobo4bobo34bo2bo
6bo3b2o2b2o$29b3o5bo8b2o3b2ob2o4bob2o11bo3bo2bobo2bo$30b2o3bobo8b2o3b
2ob2o3bobobo2bobo11b2o2b2o$29bo4bo2bo3b2o16b3ob2o3bo4bo2bo7bo$30b2o3b
2o4b2o22bo8bo2bo8bo$56b2o10b2o4bo2bo3b2o2b2o$31bobo7b2o3b2ob2o4b3o11bo
5bobobo2bo$31bo9b2o3b2ob2o3bo3b2obo13b2o2b2o$30bo2bo2b2o16bo4bob2o6b3o
7bo$30b2o4b2o17bo3bo2bobo3bo3bo8bo$62bo2bo6bo3b2o2b2o$36b2o3b2ob2o4bob
2o11bo3bo2bobo2bo$36b2o3b2ob2o3bobobo2bobo11b2o2b2o$49b3ob2o3bo4bo2bo
7bo$55bo8bo2bo8bo$46b2o10b2o4bo2bo3b2o2b2o$45b3o11bo5bobobo2bo$40b2o2b
o3b2obo13b2o2b2o$40b2o2bo4bob2o6b3o7bo$45bo3bo2bobo3bo3bo8bo$52bo2bo6b
o3b2o2b2o$55bo3bo2bobo2bo$60b2o2b2o$53bo2bo7bo$54bo2bo8bo$54bo2bo3b2o
2b2o$55bobobo2bo$55b2o2b2o$59bo$61bo$60b2o9$10b3o$12bo$11bo13$4b3o$6bo
$5bo!
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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by amling » July 30th, 2024, 4:32 am

confocaloid wrote:
July 29th, 2024, 10:22 pm
Here is another puzzle that is unsolved, as far as I know. Can a sparking wick (period >= 4) with fenceposts be found, to complete the following reaction into a diagonal 5c/26 wire?
I greatly appreciate the clarity of thought and detail in your exposition of the problem. I might add that near the signal to be both p4 and match the 5c/26d does force it to be 5c/2d (and also 10c/0d) but of course away from that a solution could merge multiple 5c/2d periods and be only some multiple of it (especially something like 10c/0d or 20c/0d).

Alas LGOL and LLSSS are both uniquely poorly suited to solving this, each in their own sad way.

To a first approximation LLSSS is unable to perform any sort of wrapped search whatsoever. Some can be faked with symmetric edges and there is the experimental "wrap_hax" mode but to say it has never really worked is an understatement.

LGOL can do wrapped searches but has no particularly good way to encode the boundary condition of "interacts correctly with this 5c/26d signal in all phases". If I actually model the search as 5c/26d then the search has no way to force most of the cells to be p4 (or whatever period we're targetting), but if I only make the search strictly p4 then I have to guess up the boundary conditions around the spark.

It is easy enough to rip off the p4 boundary from your partial and search that. It finds a few cycles quickly enough, one of which is just a known p2 wick which can be easily terminated even in the limited 5 diagonal space available:

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x = 230, y = 339, rule = B3/S23:T230,339-109
229bo$229bo$228bo2$228bo$224bo3b2o$224bo$223bo2bo2$223bobob2o$219bo3b
2o$219bo9bo$218bo2bo$227bo$218bobob2obobo$214bo3b2o9bo$214bo9bo$213bo
2bo9bo$222bo3bobo$213bobob2obobo$209bo3b2o9b6o$209bo9bo$208bo2bo9bo3b
3obo$217bo3bobo5bo$208bobob2obobo7b3obo$204bo3b2o9b6o4bo$204bo9bo10bob
obo$203bo2bo9bo3bo2b2o4bo$212bo3bobo2b2obobob2o$203bobob2obobo7b2o2bob
o$199bo3b2o9b6o4bobo2bo$199bo9bo10bobo3bo$198bo2bo9bo3b3obob2ob6o$207b
o3bobo5bo3b2o3bo$198bobob2obobo7b3obobo4bo$194bo3b2o9b6o4bob5o$194bo9b
o10bobobobobo$193bo2bo9bo3bo2b2o4bo2bo2bo2bo$202bo3bobo2b2obobob3obo2b
o$193bobob2obobo7b2o2bobo3bo6b3o$189bo3b2o9b6o4bobo2b2o$189bo9bo10bobo
3bo3bo4bo$188bo2bo9bo3b3obob2ob8o3bo$197bo3bobo5bo3b2o3bo3b4o$188bobob
2obobo7b3obobo4bo6bo4b2o$184bo3b2o9b6o4bob5o8bobo2bo$184bo9bo10bobobob
obo12b3o$183bo2bo9bo3bo2b2o4bo2bo2bo2bob2o4bo$192bo3bobo2b2obobob3obo
2bo4b2o$183bobob2obobo7b2o2bobo3bo6b5ob2o$179bo3b2o9b6o4bobo2b2o9b2o2b
o2b2o$179bo9bo10bobo3bo3bo4bo5bo5b2o$178bo2bo9bo3b3obob2ob8o3bo6bo$
187bo3bobo5bo3b2o3bo3b4o$178bobob2obobo7b3obobo4bo6bo4b2o$174bo3b2o9b
6o4bob5o8bobo2bo2b2ob2o$174bo9bo10bobobobobo12b3o3b2ob2o$173bo2bo9bo3b
o2b2o4bo2bo2bo2bob2o4bo$182bo3bobo2b2obobob3obo2bo4b2o$173bobob2obobo
7b2o2bobo3bo6b5ob2o$169bo3b2o9b6o4bobo2b2o9b2o2bo2b2ob2o3b2o$169bo9bo
10bobo3bo3bo4bo5bo5b2ob2o3b2o$168bo2bo9bo3b3obob2ob8o3bo6bo$177bo3bobo
5bo3b2o3bo3b4o19b2o$168bobob2obobo7b3obobo4bo6bo4b2o15b2o$164bo3b2o9b
6o4bob5o8bobo2bo2b2ob2o3b2o7bo$164bo9bo10bobobobobo12b3o3b2ob2o3b2o$
163bo2bo9bo3bo2b2o4bo2bo2bo2bob2o4bo19b2o$172bo3bobo2b2obobob3obo2bo4b
2o18b2o4b2o$163bobob2obobo7b2o2bobo3bo6b5ob2o15b2o3bo$159bo3b2o9b6o4bo
bo2b2o9b2o2bo2b2ob2o3b2o8bo3bo$159bo9bo10bobo3bo3bo4bo5bo5b2ob2o3b2o8b
o3bo$158bo2bo9bo3b3obob2ob8o3bo6bo18b2o6bo$167bo3bobo5bo3b2o3bo3b4o19b
2o3bobo3b2o$158bobob2obobo7b3obobo4bo6bo4b2o15b2o11bo$154bo3b2o9b6o4bo
b5o8bobo2bo2b2ob2o3b2o7b3o2bo3bo$154bo9bo10bobobobobo12b3o3b2ob2o3b2o
9bob2o$153bo2bo9bo3bo2b2o4bo2bo2bo2bob2o4bo19b2o11bo$162bo3bobo2b2obob
ob3obo2bo4b2o18b2o4b2o5b2o4bo$153bobob2obobo7b2o2bobo3bo6b5ob2o15b2o3b
o6b3o4bo$149bo3b2o9b6o4bobo2b2o9b2o2bo2b2ob2o3b2o8bo3bo3b2obo$149bo9bo
10bobo3bo3bo4bo5bo5b2ob2o3b2o8bo3bo3b2obobo$148bo2bo9bo3b3obob2ob8o3bo
6bo18b2o6bo6bo$157bo3bobo5bo3b2o3bo3b4o19b2o3bobo3b2o5b2o2b2o$148bobob
2obobo7b3obobo4bo6bo4b2o15b2o11bo7bob2o$144bo3b2o9b6o4bob5o8bobo2bo2b
2ob2o3b2o7b3o2bo3bo5bob2obo$144bo9bo10bobobobobo12b3o3b2ob2o3b2o9bob2o
5b2o$143bo2bo9bo3bo2b2o4bo2bo2bo2bob2o4bo19b2o11bobob3ob3o$152bo3bobo
2b2obobob3obo2bo4b2o18b2o4b2o5b2o4bobobo2bo2bo$143bobob2obobo7b2o2bobo
3bo6b5ob2o15b2o3bo6b3o4bo4b2ob3o$139bo3b2o9b6o4bobo2b2o9b2o2bo2b2ob2o
3b2o8bo3bo3b2obo3b5o2bobo$139bo9bo10bobo3bo3bo4bo5bo5b2ob2o3b2o8bo3bo
3b2obobo6bobo$138bo2bo9bo3b3obob2ob8o3bo6bo18b2o6bo6bo3b5obobo$147bo3b
obo5bo3b2o3bo3b4o19b2o3bobo3b2o5b2o2b2o5bobo$138bobob2obobo7b3obobo4bo
6bo4b2o15b2o11bo7bob2obo4bob2o$134bo3b2o9b6o4bob5o8bobo2bo2b2ob2o3b2o
7b3o2bo3bo5bob2obo2bobobo$134bo9bo10bobobobobo12b3o3b2ob2o3b2o9bob2o5b
2o8bobo3bo2bo$133bo2bo9bo3bo2b2o4bo2bo2bo2bob2o4bo19b2o11bobob3ob3obob
obo$142bo3bobo2b2obobob3obo2bo4b2o18b2o4b2o5b2o4bobobo2bo2bobo5bo$133b
obob2obobo7b2o2bobo3bo6b5ob2o15b2o3bo6b3o4bo4b2ob3obob2o$129bo3b2o9b6o
4bobo2b2o9b2o2bo2b2ob2o3b2o8bo3bo3b2obo3b5o2bobobo5b2o$129bo9bo10bobo
3bo3bo4bo5bo5b2ob2o3b2o8bo3bo3b2obobo6bobo3bo2bo$128bo2bo9bo3b3obob2ob
8o3bo6bo18b2o6bo6bo3b5obobobo5bo$137bo3bobo5bo3b2o3bo3b4o19b2o3bobo3b
2o5b2o2b2o5bobo5bo3bo$128bobob2obobo7b3obobo4bo6bo4b2o15b2o11bo7bob2ob
o4bob2o8bo$124bo3b2o9b6o4bob5o8bobo2bo2b2ob2o3b2o7b3o2bo3bo5bob2obo2bo
bobo5b2o4bo$124bo9bo10bobobobobo12b3o3b2ob2o3b2o9bob2o5b2o8bobo3bo2bo$
123bo2bo9bo3bo2b2o4bo2bo2bo2bob2o4bo19b2o11bobob3ob3obobobo5bo4bobo$
132bo3bobo2b2obobob3obo2bo4b2o18b2o4b2o5b2o4bobobo2bo2bobo5bo3bo4b2o$
123bobob2obobo7b2o2bobo3bo6b5ob2o15b2o3bo6b3o4bo4b2ob3obob2o8bo$119bo
3b2o9b6o4bobo2b2o9b2o2bo2b2ob2o3b2o8bo3bo3b2obo3b5o2bobobo5b2o4bo$119b
o9bo10bobo3bo3bo4bo5bo5b2ob2o3b2o8bo3bo3b2obobo6bobo3bo2bo10bo$118bo2b
o9bo3b3obob2ob8o3bo6bo18b2o6bo6bo3b5obobobo5bo4bobobo$127bo3bobo5bo3b
2o3bo3b4o19b2o3bobo3b2o5b2o2b2o5bobo5bo3bo4b2o2bo$118bobob2obobo7b3obo
bo4bo6bo4b2o15b2o11bo7bob2obo4bob2o8bo$114bo3b2o9b6o4bob5o8bobo2bo2b2o
b2o3b2o7b3o2bo3bo5bob2obo2bobobo5b2o4bo$114bo9bo10bobobobobo12b3o3b2ob
2o3b2o9bob2o5b2o8bobo3bo2bo10bo$113bo2bo9bo3bo2b2o4bo2bo2bo2bob2o4bo
19b2o11bobob3ob3obobobo5bo4bobobo$122bo3bobo2b2obobob3obo2bo4b2o18b2o
4b2o5b2o4bobobo2bo2bobo5bo3bo4b2o2bo$113bobob2obobo7b2o2bobo3bo6b5ob2o
15b2o3bo6b3o4bo4b2ob3obob2o8bo$109bo3b2o9b6o4bobo2b2o9b2o2bo2b2ob2o3b
2o8bo3bo3b2obo3b5o2bobobo5b2o4bo$109bo9bo10bobo3bo3bo4bo5bo5b2ob2o3b2o
8bo3bo3b2obobo6bobo3bo2bo10bo$108bo2bo9bo3b3obob2ob8o3bo6bo18b2o6bo6bo
3b5obobobo5bo4bobobo$117bo3bobo5bo3b2o3bo3b4o19b2o3bobo3b2o5b2o2b2o5bo
bo5bo3bo4b2o2bo$108bobob2obobo7b3obobo4bo6bo4b2o15b2o11bo7bob2obo4bob
2o8bo$104bo3b2o9b6o4bob5o8bobo2bo2b2ob2o3b2o7b3o2bo3bo5bob2obo2bobobo
5b2o4bo$104bo9bo10bobobobobo12b3o3b2ob2o3b2o9bob2o5b2o8bobo3bo2bo10bo$
103bo2bo9bo3bo2b2o4bo2bo2bo2bob2o4bo19b2o11bobob3ob3obobobo5bo4bobobo$
112bo3bobo2b2obobob3obo2bo4b2o18b2o4b2o5b2o4bobobo2bo2bobo5bo3bo4b2o2b
o$103bobob2obobo7b2o2bobo3bo6b5ob2o15b2o3bo6b3o4bo4b2ob3obob2o8bo$99bo
3b2o9b6o4bobo2b2o9b2o2bo2b2ob2o3b2o8bo3bo3b2obo3b5o2bobobo5b2o4bo$99bo
9bo10bobo3bo3bo4bo5bo5b2ob2o3b2o8bo3bo3b2obobo6bobo3bo2bo10bo$98bo2bo
9bo3b3obob2ob8o3bo6bo18b2o6bo6bo3b5obobobo5bo4bobobo$107bo3bobo5bo3b2o
3bo3b4o19b2o3bobo3b2o5b2o2b2o5bobo5bo3bo4b2o2bo$98bobob2obobo7b3obobo
4bo6bo4b2o15b2o11bo7bob2obo4bob2o8bo$94bo3b2o9b6o4bob5o8bobo2bo2b2ob2o
3b2o7b3o2bo3bo5bob2obo2bobobo5b2o4bo$94bo9bo10bobobobobo12b3o3b2ob2o3b
2o9bob2o5b2o8bobo3bo2bo10bo$93bo2bo9bo3bo2b2o4bo2bo2bo2bob2o4bo19b2o
11bobob3ob3obobobo5bo4bobobo$102bo3bobo2b2obobob3obo2bo4b2o18b2o4b2o5b
2o4bobobo2bo2bobo5bo3bo4b2o2bo$93bobob2obobo7b2o2bobo3bo6b5ob2o15b2o3b
o6b3o4bo4b2ob3obob2o8bo$89bo3b2o9b6o4bobo2b2o9b2o2bo2b2ob2o3b2o8bo3bo
3b2obo3b5o2bobobo5b2o4bo$89bo9bo10bobo3bo3bo4bo5bo5b2ob2o3b2o8bo3bo3b
2obobo6bobo3bo2bo10bo$88bo2bo9bo3b3obob2ob8o3bo6bo18b2o6bo6bo3b5obobob
o5bo4bobobo$97bo3bobo5bo3b2o3bo3b4o19b2o3bobo3b2o5b2o2b2o5bobo5bo3bo4b
2o2bo$88bobob2obobo7b3obobo4bo6bo4b2o15b2o11bo7bob2obo4bob2o8bo$84bo3b
2o9b6o4bob5o8bobo2bo2b2ob2o3b2o7b3o2bo3bo5bob2obo2bobobo5b2o4bo$84bo9b
o10bobobobobo12b3o3b2ob2o3b2o9bob2o5b2o8bobo3bo2bo10bo$83bo2bo9bo3bo2b
2o4bo2bo2bo2bob2o4bo19b2o11bobob3ob3obobobo5bo4bobobo$92bo3bobo2b2obob
ob3obo2bo4b2o18b2o4b2o5b2o4bobobo2bo2bobo5bo3bo4b2o2bo$83bobob2obobo7b
2o2bobo3bo6b5ob2o15b2o3bo6b3o4bo4b2ob3obob2o8bo$79bo3b2o9b6o4bobo2b2o
9b2o2bo2b2ob2o3b2o8bo3bo3b2obo3b5o2bobobo5b2o4bo$79bo9bo10bobo3bo3bo4b
o5bo5b2ob2o3b2o8bo3bo3b2obobo6bobo3bo2bo10bo$78bo2bo9bo3b3obob2ob8o3bo
6bo18b2o6bo6bo3b5obobobo5bo4bobobo$87bo3bobo5bo3b2o3bo3b4o19b2o3bobo3b
2o5b2o2b2o5bobo5bo3bo4b2o2bo$78bobob2obobo7b3obobo4bo6bo4b2o15b2o11bo
7bob2obo4bob2o8bo$74bo3b2o9b6o4bob5o8bobo2bo2b2ob2o3b2o7b3o2bo3bo5bob
2obo2bobobo5b2o4bo$74bo9bo10bobobobobo12b3o3b2ob3o2b2o9bob2o5b2o8bobo
3bo2bo10bo$73bo2bo9bo3bo2b2o4bo2bo2bo2bob2o4bo19b2o11bobob3ob3obobobo
5bo4bobobo$82bo3bobo2b2obobob3obo2bo4b2o18b2o4b2o5b2o4bobobo2bo2bobo5b
o3bo4b2o2bo$73bobob2obobo7b2o2bobo3bo6b5ob2o15b2o3bo6b3o4bo4b2ob3obob
2o8bo$69bo3b2o9b6o4bobo2b2o9b2o2bo2b2ob2o3b2o8bo3bo3b2obo3b5o2bobobo5b
2o4bo$69bo9bo10bobo3bo3bo4bo5bo5b2ob2o3b2o8bo3bo3b2obobo6bobo3bo2bo10b
o$68bo2bo9bo3b3obob2ob8o3bo6bo18b2o6bo6bo3b5obobobo5bo4bobobo$77bo3bob
o5bo3b2o3bo3b4o19b2o3bobo3b2o5b2o2b2o5bobo5bo3bo4b2o2bo$68bobob2obobo
7b3obobo4bo6bo4b2o15b2o11bo7bob2obo4bob2o8bo$64bo3b2o9b6o4bob5o8bobo2b
o2b2ob2o3b2o7b3o2bo3bo5bob2obo2bobobo5b2o4bo$64bo9bo10bobobobobo12b3o
3b2ob2o3b2o9bob2o5b2o8bobo3bo2bo10bo$63bo2bo9bo3bo2b2o4bo2bo2bo2bob2o
4bo19b2o11bobob3ob3obobobo5bo4bobobo$72bo3bobo2b2obobob3obo2bo4b2o18b
2o4b2o5b2o4bobobo2bo2bobo5bo3bo4b2o2bo$63bobob2obobo7b2o2bobo3bo6b5ob
2o15b2o3bo6b3o4bo4b2ob3obob2o8bo$59bo3b2o9b6o4bobo2b2o9b2o2bo2b2ob2o3b
2o8bo3bo3b2obo3b5o2bobobo5b2o4bo$59bo9bo10bobo3bo3bo4bo5bo5b2ob2o3b2o
8bo3bo3b2obobo6bobo3bo2bo10bo$58bo2bo9bo3b3obob2ob8o3bo6bo18b2o6bo6bo
3b5obobobo5bo4bobobo$67bo3bobo5bo3b2o3bo3b4o19b2o3bobo3b2o5b2o2b2o5bob
o5bo3bo4b2o2bo$58bobob2obobo7b3obobo4bo6bo4b2o15b2o11bo7bob2obo4bob2o
8bo$54bo3b2o9b6o4bob5o8bobo2bo2b2ob2o3b2o7b3o2bo3bo5bob2obo2bobobo5b2o
4bo$54bo9bo10bobobobobo12b3o3b2ob2o3b2o9bob2o5b2o8bobo3bo2bo10bo$53bo
2bo9bo3bo2b2o4bo2bo2bo2bob2o4bo19b2o11bobob3ob3obobobo5bo4bobobo$62bo
3bobo2b2obobob3obo2bo4b2o18b2o4b2o5b2o4bobobo2bo2bobo5bo3bo4b2o2bo$53b
obob2obobo7b2o2bobo3bo6b5ob2o15b2o3bo6b3o4bo4b2ob3obob2o8bo$49bo3b2o9b
6o4bobo2b2o9b2o2bo2b2ob2o3b2o8bo3bo3b2obo3b5o2bobobo5b2o4bo$49bo9bo10b
obo3bo3bo4bo5bo5b2ob2o3b2o8bo3bo3b2obobo6bobo3bo2bo10bo$48bo2bo9bo3b3o
bob2ob8o3bo6bo18b2o6bo6bo3b5obobobo5bo4bobobo$57bo3bobo5bo3b2o3bo3b4o
19b2o3bobo3b2o5b2o2b2o5bobo5bo3bo4b2o2bo$48bobob2obobo7b3obobo4bo6bo4b
2o15b2o11bo7bob2obo4bob2o8bo$44bo3b2o9b6o4bob5o8bobo2bo2b2ob2o3b2o7b3o
2bo3bo5bob2obo2bobobo5b2o4bo$44bo9bo10bobobobobo12b3o3b2ob2o3b2o9bob2o
5b2o8bobo3bo2bo10bo$43bo2bo9bo3bo2b2o4bo2bo2bo2bob2o4bo19b2o11bobob3ob
3obobobo5bo4bobobo$52bo3bobo2b2obobob3obo2bo4b2o18b2o4b2o5b2o4bobobo2b
o2bobo5bo3bo4b2o2bo$43bobob2obobo7b2o2bobo3bo6b5ob2o15b2o3bo6b3o4bo4b
2ob3obob2o8bo$39bo3b2o9b6o4bobo2b2o9b2o2bo2b2ob2o3b2o8bo3bo3b2obo3b5o
2bobobo5b2o4bo$39bo9bo10bobo3bo3bo4bo5bo5b2ob2o3b2o8bo3bo3b2obobo6bobo
3bo2bo10bo$38bo2bo9bo3b3obob2ob8o3bo6bo18b2o6bo6bo3b5obobobo5bo4bobobo
$47bo3bobo5bo3b2o3bo3b4o19b2o3bobo3b2o5b2o2b2o5bobo5bo3bo4b2o2bo$38bob
ob2obobo7b3obobo4bo6bo4b2o15b2o11bo7bob2obo4bob2o8bo$34bo3b2o9b6o4bob
5o8bobo2bo2b2ob2o3b2o7b3o2bo3bo5bob2obo2bobobo5b2o4bo$34bo9bo10bobobob
obo12b3o3b2ob2o3b2o9bob2o5b2o8bobo3bo2bo10bo$33bo2bo9bo3bo2b2o4bo2bo2b
o2bob2o4bo19b2o11bobob3ob3obobobo5bo4bobobo$42bo3bobo2b2obobob3obo2bo
4b2o18b2o4b2o5b2o4bobobo2bo2bobo5bo3bo4b2o2bo$33bobob2obobo7b2o2bobo3b
o6b5ob2o15b2o3bo6b3o4bo4b2ob3obob2o8bo$29bo3b2o9b6o4bobo2b2o9b2o2bo2b
2ob2o3b2o8bo3bo3b2obo3b5o2bobobo5b2o4bo$29bo9bo10bobo3bo3bo4bo5bo5b2ob
2o3b2o8bo3bo3b2obobo6bobo3bo2bo10bo$28bo2bo9bo3b3obob2ob8o3bo6bo18b2o
6bo6bo3b5obobobo5bo4bobobo$37bo3bobo5bo3b2o3bo3b4o19b2o3bobo3b2o5b2o2b
2o5bobo5bo3bo4b2o2bo$28bobob2obobo7b3obobo4bo6bo4b2o15b2o11bo7bob2obo
4bob2o8bo$24bo3b2o9b6o4bob5o8bobo2bo2b2ob2o3b2o7b3o2bo3bo5bob2obo2bobo
bo5b2o4bo$24bo9bo10bobobobobo12b3o3b2ob2o3b2o9bob2o5b2o8bobo3bo2bo10bo
$23bo2bo9bo3bo2b2o4bo2bo2bo2bob2o4bo19b2o11bobob3ob3obobobo5bo4bobobo$
32bo3bobo2b2obobob3obo2bo4b2o18b2o4b2o5b2o4bobobo2bo2bobo5bo3bo4b2o2bo
$23bobob2obobo7b2o2bobo3bo6b5ob2o15b2o3bo6b3o4bo4b2ob3obob2o8bo$19bo3b
2o9b6o4bobo2b2o9b2o2bo2b2ob2o3b2o8bo3bo3b2obo3b5o2bobobo5b2o4bo$19bo9b
o10bobo3bo3bo4bo5bo5b2ob2o3b2o8bo3bo3b2obobo6bobo3bo2bo10bo$18bo2bo9bo
3b3obob2ob8o3bo6bo18b2o6bo6bo3b5obobobo5bo4bobobo$27bo3bobo5bo3b2o3bo
3b4o19b2o3bobo3b2o5b2o2b2o5bobo5bo3bo4b2o2bo$18bobob2obobo7b3obobo4bo
6bo4b2o15b2o11bo7bob2obo4bob2o8bo$14bo3b2o9b6o4bob5o8bobo2bo2b2ob2o3b
2o7b3o2bo3bo5bob2obo2bobobo5b2o4bo$14bo9bo10bobobobobo12b3o3b2ob2o3b2o
9bob2o5b2o8bobo3bo2bo10bo$13bo2bo9bo3bo2b2o4bo2bo2bo2bob2o4bo19b2o11bo
bob3ob3obobobo5bo4bobobo$22bo3bobo2b2obobob3obo2bo4b2o18b2o4b2o5b2o4bo
bobo2bo2bobo5bo3bo4b2o2bo$13bobob2obobo7b2o2bobo3bo6b5ob2o15b2o3bo6b3o
4bo4b2ob3obob2o8bo$9bo3b2o9b6o4bobo2b2o9b2o2bo2b2ob2o3b2o8bo3bo3b2obo
3b5o2bobobo5b2o4bo$9bo9bo10bobo3bo3bo4bo5bo5b2ob2o3b2o8bo3bo3b2obobo6b
obo3bo2bo10bo$8bo2bo9bo3b3obob2ob8o3bo6bo18b2o6bo6bo3b5obobobo5bo4bobo
bo$17bo3bobo5bo3b2o3bo3b4o19b2o3bobo3b2o5b2o2b2o5bobo5bo3bo4b2o2bo$8bo
bob2obobo7b3obobo4bo6bo4b2o15b2o11bo7bob2obo4bob2o8bo$4bo3b2o9b6o4bob
5o8bobo2bo2b2ob2o3b2o7b3o2bo3bo5bob2obo2bobobo5b2o4bo$4bo9bo10bobobobo
bo12b3o3b2ob2o3b2o9bob2o5b2o8bobo3bo2bo10bo$3bo2bo9bo3bo2b2o4bo2bo2bo
2bob2o4bo19b2o11bobob3ob3obobobo5bo4bobobo$12bo3bobo2b2obobob3obo2bo4b
2o18b2o4b2o5b2o4bobobo2bo2bobo5bo3bo4b2o2bo$3bobob2obobo7b2o2bobo3bo6b
5ob2o15b2o3bo6b3o4bo4b2ob3obob2o8bo$3b2o9b6o4bobo2b2o9b2o2bo2b2ob2o3b
2o8bo3bo3b2obo3b5o2bobobo5b2o4bo$9bo10bobo3bo3bo4bo5bo5b2ob2o3b2o8bo3b
o3b2obobo6bobo3bo2bo10bo$bo9bo3b3obob2ob8o3bo6bo18b2o6bo6bo3b5obobobo
5bo4bobobo$7bo3bobo5bo3b2o3bo3b4o19b2o3bobo3b2o5b2o2b2o5bobo5bo3bo4b2o
2bo$ob2obobo7b3obobo4bo6bo4b2o15b2o11bo7bob2obo4bob2o8bo$9b6o4bob5o8bo
bo2bo2b2ob2o3b2o7b3o2bo3bo5bob2obo2bobobo5b2o4bo$4bo10bobobobobo12b3o
3b2ob2o3b2o9bob2o5b2o8bobo3bo2bo10bo$6bo3bo2b2o4bo2bo2bo2bob2o4bo19b2o
11bobob3ob3obobobo5bo4bobobo$2bo3bobo2b2obobob3obo2bo4b2o18b2o4b2o5b2o
4bobobo2bo2bobo5bo3bo4b2o2bo$obo7b2o2bobo3bo6b5ob2o15b2o3bo6b3o4bo4b2o
b3obob2o8bo$4b6o4bobo2b2o9b2o2bo2b2ob2o3b2o8bo3bo3b2obo3b5o2bobobo5b2o
4bo$10bobo3bo3bo4bo5bo5b2ob2o3b2o8bo3bo3b2obobo6bobo3bo2bo10bo$bo3b3ob
ob2ob8o3bo6bo18b2o6bo6bo3b5obobobo5bo4bobobo$bobo5bo3b2o3bo3b4o19b2o3b
obo3b2o5b2o2b2o5bobo5bo3bo4b2o2bo$5b3obobo4bo6bo4b2o15b2o11bo7bob2obo
4bob2o8bo$5o4bob5o8bobo2bo2b2ob2o3b2o7b3o2bo3bo5bob2obo2bobobo5b2o4bo$
5bobobobobo12b3o3b2ob2o3b2o9bob2o5b2o8bobo3bo2bo10bo$o2b2o4bo2bo2bo2bo
b2o4bo19b2o11bobob3ob3obobobo5bo4bobobo$b2obobob3obo2bo4b2o18b2o4b2o5b
2o4bobobo2bo2bobo5bo3bo4b2o2bo$2o2bobo3bo6b5ob2o15b2o3bo6b3o4bo4b2ob3o
bob2o8bo$4bobo2b2o9b2o2bo2b2ob2o3b2o8bo3bo3b2obo3b5o2bobobo5b2o4bo$obo
3bo3bo4bo5bo5b2ob2o3b2o8bo3bo3b2obobo6bobo3bo2bo10bo$b2ob8o3bo6bo18b2o
6bo6bo3b5obobobo5bo4bobobo$3b2o3bo3b4o19b2o3bobo3b2o5b2o2b2o5bobo5bo3b
o4b2o2bo$bo4bo6bo4b2o15b2o11bo7bob2obo4bob2o8bo$b5o8bobo2bo2b2ob2o3b2o
7b3o2bo3bo5bob2obo2bobobo5b2o4bo$bobo12b3o3b2ob2o3b2o9bob2o5b2o8bobo3b
o2bo10bo$2bo2bo2bob2o4bo19b2o11bobob3ob3obobobo5bo4bobobo$obo2bo4b2o
18b2o4b2o5b2o4bobobo2bo2bobo5bo3bo4b2o2bo$o6b5ob2o15b2o3bo6b3o4bo4b2ob
3obob2o8bo$o9b2o2bo2b2ob2o3b2o8bo3bo3b2obo3b5o2bobobo5b2o4bo$o4bo5bo5b
2ob2o3b2o8bo3bo3b2obobo6bobo3bo2bo10bo$2o3bo6bo18b2o6bo6bo3b5obobobo5b
o4bobobo$2b4o19b2o3bobo3b2o5b2o2b2o5bobo5bo3bo4b2o2bo$3bo4b2o15b2o11bo
7bob2obo4bob2o8bo$4bobo2bo2b2ob2o3b2o7b3o2bo3bo5bob2obo2bobobo5b2o4bo$
6b3o3b2ob2o3b2o9bob2o5b2o8bobo3bo2bo10bo$2o4bo19b2o11bobob3ob3obobobo
5bo4bobobo$2o18b2o4b2o5b2o4bobobo2bo2bobo5bo3bo4b2o2bo$2ob2o15b2o3bo6b
3o4bo4b2ob3obob2o8bo$2o2bo2b2ob2o3b2o8bo3bo3b2obo3b5o2bobobo5b2o4bo$bo
5b2ob2o3b2o8bo3bo3b2obobo6bobo3bo2bo10bo$2bo18b2o6bo6bo3b5obobobo5bo4b
obobo$15b2o3bobo3b2o5b2o2b2o5bobo5bo3bo4b2o2bo$15b2o11bo7bob2obo4bob2o
8bo$2b2ob2o3b2o7b3o2bo3bo5bob2obo2bobobo5b2o4bo$2b2ob2o3b2o9bob2o5b2o
8bobo3bo2bo10bo$16b2o11bobob3ob3obobobo5bo4bobobo$10b2o4b2o5b2o4bobobo
2bo2bobo5bo3bo4b2o2bo$10b2o3bo6b3o4bo4b2ob3obob2o8bo$2o3b2o8bo3bo3b2ob
o3b5o2bobobo5b2o4bo$2o3b2o8bo3bo3b2obobo6bobo3bo2bo10bo$11b2o6bo6bo3b
5obobobo5bo4bobobo$5b2o3bobo3b2o5b2o2b2o5bobo5bo3bo4b2o2bo$5b2o11bo7bo
b2obo4bob2o8bo$2o7b3o2bo3bo5bob2obo2bobobo5b2o4bo$2o9bob2o5b2o8bobo3bo
2bo10bo$6b2o11bobob3ob3obobobo5bo4bobobo$2o4b2o5b2o4bobobo2bo2bobo5bo
3bo4b2o2bo$2o3bo6b3o4bo4b2ob3obob2o8bo$5bo3bo3b2obo3b5o2bobobo5b2o4bo$
5bo3bo3b2obobo6bobo3bo2bo10bo$b2o6bo6bo3b5obobobo5bo4bobobo$obo3b2o5b
2o2b2o5bobo5bo3bo4b2o2bo$8bo7bob2obo4bob2o8bo$2o2bo3bo5bob2obo2bobobo
5b2o4bo$bob2o5b2o8bobo3bo2bo10bo$9bobob3ob3obobobo5bo4bobobo$3b2o4bobo
bo2bo2bobo5bo3bo4b2o2bo$2b3o4bo4b2ob3obob2o8bo$3b2obo3b5o2bobobo5b2o4b
o$3b2obobo6bobo3bo2bo10bo$6bo3b5obobobo5bo4bobobo$3b2o2b2o5bobo5bo3bo
4b2o2bo$6bob2obo4bob2o8bo$4bob2obo2bobobo5b2o4bo$2o8bobo3bo2bo10bo$bob
3ob3obobobo5bo4bobobo$bobo2bo2bobo5bo3bo4b2o2bo$4b2ob3obob2o8bo$5o2bob
obo5b2o4bo$5bobo3bo2bo10bo$5obobobo5bo4bobobo$4bobo5bo3bo4b2o2bo$bo4bo
b2o8bo$2bobobo5b2o4bo$obo3bo2bo10bo$bobobo5bo4bobobo$bo5bo3bo4b2o2bo$b
ob2o8bo$bo5b2o4bo$bo2bo10bo$o5bo4bobobo$2bo3bo4b2o2bo$8bo$2b2o4bo$10bo
$bo4bobobo$bo4b2o2bo$3bo$3bo$5bo$bobobo$b2o2bo3$o$o$o!
The search will presumably find a similar solution soon enough and it's possible there is one a little smaller, but either way I am not super optimistic about finding fence posts for this but I guess it just p4...



As I was writing the above the following completion showed up in random partials in the search. I assume it will report it soon enough once it pads it with enough zeros:

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x = 80, y = 119, rule = B3/S23:T80,119-39
78b2o$77bobo$77bo$76b3o2$73b2o3bo$74bo4bo$71bo$72b5o$73b4o$68b2o4bo$
67bobo4bobo$67bo6bo$66b3o10bo$70b3o2b2obo$63b2o3bobo7bo$64bo4b2o6b2o$
61bo8bo4b2obo$62b5o4bo5b3o$63b4o4b5o$58b2o4bo6bobob5o$57bobo4bobo3b2o
3bo$57bo6bo6bo5bobo$56b3o10bob5o3bo$60b3o2b2obo2bo5bobo$53b2o3bobo7bob
2ob4obo$54bo4b2o6b2obo5bobo$51bo8bo4b2obo2b2o2bo2bo$52b5o4bo5b3obo2b2o
2bo$53b4o4b5o6bobobobo$48b2o4bo6bobob7obo4bo$47bobo4bobo3b2o3bo7bobo$
47bo6bo6bo5bobobobo5bo$46b3o10bob5o3bobobob2o$50b3o2b2obo2bo5bobobobo
5bo$43b2o3bobo7bob2ob4obo4bo3bo$44bo4b2o6b2obo5bobobo7bo$41bo8bo4b2obo
2b2o2bo2bo5b2o3bo$42b5o4bo5b3obo2b2o2bob2o4bo$43b4o4b5o6bobobobo5bobo$
38b2o4bo6bobob7obo4bo3bo2bob2o$37bobo4bobo3b2o3bo7bobo7bobo2bo$37bo6bo
6bo5bobobobo5b2o3bo2bo$36b3o10bob5o3bobobob2o4bo3b2o$40b3o2b2obo2bo5bo
bobobo5bobo$33b2o3bobo7bob2ob4obo4bo3bo2bob2o$34bo4b2o6b2obo5bobobo7bo
bo2bo$31bo8bo4b2obo2b2o2bo2bo5b2o3bo2bo$32b5o4bo5b3obo2b2o2bob2o4bo3b
2o$33b4o4b5o6bobobobo5bobo$28b2o4bo6bobob7obo4bo3bo2bob2o$27bobo4bobo
3b2o3bo7bobo7bobo2bo$27bo6bo6bo5bobobobo5b2o3bo2bo$26b3o10bob5o3bobobo
b2o4bo3b2o$30b3o2b2obo2bo5bobobobo5bobo$23b2o3bobo7bob2ob4obo4bo3bo2bo
b2o$24bo4b2o6b2obo5bobobo7bobo2bo$21bo8bo4b2obo2b2o2bo2bo5b2o3bo2bo$
22b5o4bo5b3obo2b2o2bob2o4bo3b2o$23b4o4b5o6bobobobo5bobo$18b2o4bo6bobob
7obo4bo3bo2bob2o$17bobo4bobo3b2o3bo7bobo7bobo2bo$17bo6bo6bo5bobobobo5b
2o3bo2bo$16b3o10bob5o3bobobob2o4bo3b2o$20b3o2b2obo2bo5bobobobo5bobo$
13b2o3bobo7bob2ob4obo4bo3bo2bob2o$14bo4b2o6b2obo5bobobo7bobo2bo$11bo8b
o4b2obo2b2o2bo2bo5b2o3bo2bo$12b5o4bo5b3obo2b2o2bob2o4bo3b2o$13b4o4b5o
6bobobobo5bobo$8b2o4bo6bobob7obo4bo3bo2bob2o$7bobo4bobo3b2o3bo7bobo7bo
bo2bo$7bo6bo6bo5bobobobo5b2o3bo2bo$6b3o10bob5o3bobobob2o4bo3b2o$10b3o
2b2obo2bo5bobobobo5bobo$3b2o3bobo7bob2ob4obo4bo3bo2bob2o$4bo4b2o6b2obo
5bobobo7bobo2bo$bo8bo4b2obo2b2o2bo2bo5b2o3bo2bo$2b5o4bo5b3obo2b2o2bob
2o4bo3b2o$3b4o4b5o6bobobobo5bobo$4bo6bobob7obo4bo3bo2bob2o$4bobo3b2o3b
o7bobo7bobo2bo$4bo6bo5bobobobo5b2o3bo2bo$9bob5o3bobobob2o4bo3b2o$3o2b
2obo2bo5bobobobo5bobo$o7bob2ob4obo4bo3bo2bob2o$o6b2obo5bobobo7bobo2bo$
o4b2obo2b2o2bo2bo5b2o3bo2bo$bo5b3obo2b2o2bob2o4bo3b2o$b5o6bobobobo5bob
o$bobob7obo4bo3bo2bob2o$2o3bo7bobo7bobo2bo$bo5bobobobo5b2o3bo2bo$b5o3b
obobob2o4bo3b2o$bo5bobobobo5bobo$2ob4obo4bo3bo2bob2o$o5bobobo7bobo2bo$
b2o2bo2bo5b2o3bo2bo$bo2b2o2bob2o4bo3b2o$2bobobobo5bobo$2obo4bo3bo2bob
2o$3bobo7bobo2bo$bobo5b2o3bo2bo$bobob2o4bo3b2o$bobo5bobo$3bo3bo2bob2o$
o7bobo2bo$4b2o3bo2bo$2o4bo3b2o$4bobo$2bo2bob2o$3bobo2bo$o3bo2bo$bo3b2o
$bo$ob2o$o2bo$2bo$2o!
It doesn't make fenceposts any more likely seeming though.

EDIT: Maybe p4's not so bad. Here are some fenceposts:

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x = 76, y = 78, rule = B3/S23
8b2o18bo$7bobo17bo$6bo5b2o12b2o2bo$5bo3bo4bo8b5ob2o$3b5o5bo4bo2bo4b2o$
2bo3bo2b2ob2o4bo2bo2bob2o4bo$bo2bo6bobobo3bo12b3o$bobo8bo2bob5o8bobo2b
o$2obobo7bobobo4bo6bo4b2o$4b2o6b2obo3b2o3bo3b4o$13bobob2ob8o3bo6bo$13b
ob2obo3bo3bo4bo5bo$5bobobobo8bobo2b2o9b2o2bo$b2o2bo4bo4b3o2bobo3bo6b5o
b2o$bobo4bobobo4b2obobob3obo2bo4b2o$7bobobobo2bo2b2o4bo2bo2bo2bob2o4bo
$3bo3bobobobo7bobobobobo12b3o$5bobo3bobob6o4bob5o8bobo2bo$b2o2bo7bo7b
3obobo4bo6bo4b2o$3bo13bobo5bo3b2o3bo3b4o$17bo3b3obob2ob8o3bo6bo$15bo
10bobo3bo3bo4bo5bo$14bo5b6o4bobo2b2o9b2o2bo$13bo2bobo7b2o2bobo3bo6b5ob
2o$12bob2o2bo3bobo2b2obobob3obo2bo4b2o$12bo3b2o4bo3bo2b2o4bo2bo2bo2bob
2o4bo$13bobo4bo10bobobobobo12b3o$14b2o3bo5b6o4bob5o8bobo2bo$18bo2bobo
7b3obobo4bo6bo4b2o$17bob2o2bo3bobo5bo3b2o3bo3b4o$17bo3b2o4bo3b3obob2ob
8o3bo6bo$18bobo4bo10bobo3bo3bo4bo5bo$19b2o3bo5b6o4bobo2b2o9b2o2bo$23bo
2bobo7b2o2bobo3bo6b5ob2o$22bob2o2bo3bobo2b2obobob3obo2bo4b2o$22bo3b2o
4bo3bo2b2o4bo2bo2bo2bob2o4bo$23bobo4bo10bobobobobo12b3o$24b2o3bo5b6o4b
ob5o8bobo2bo$28bo2bobo7b3obobo4bo6bo4b2o$27bob2o2bo3bobo5bo3b2o3bo3b4o
$27bo3b2o4bo3b3obob2ob8o3bo6bo$28bobo4bo10bobo3bo3bo4bo5bo$29b2o3bo5b
6o4bobo2b2o9b2o2bo$33bo2bobo7b2o2bobo3bo6b5ob2o$32bob2o2bo3bobo2b2obob
ob3obo2bo4b2o$32bo3b2o4bo3bo2b2o4bo2bo2bo2bob2o4bo$33bobo4bo10bobobobo
bo12b3o$34b2o3bo5b6o4bob5o8bobo2bo$38bo2bobo7b3obobo4bo6bo4b2o$37bob2o
2bo3bobo5bo3b2o3bo3b4o$37bo3b2o4bo3b3obob2ob8o3bo$38bobo4bo10bobo3bo3b
o4bo$39b2o3bo5b6o4bobo2b2o$43bo2bobo7b2o2bobo4bo$42bob2o2bo3bobo2b2obo
bobo3bo$42bo3b2o4bo3bo2b2o2bobo$43bobo4bo10bobo4b3o$44b2o3bo5b5obo2bob
obo$48bo2bobo6bobobob3o$47bob2o2bo3bobo2bo2bo4bo$47bo3b2o4bo4b2obob4o$
48bobo4bo9b3o$49b2o3bo11bob3o$53bo2bobo3b2obobo2bo$52bob2o2bo4bobobo$
52bo3b2o2bo2bo2bo$53bobo8b2o$54b2o3b2o2$61bo2$61b2o$65bobo$63bo2bo$64b
obob2o$62bobobo$62b2o2bobo$66b2o!
If you decide you need more clearance around the mouths let me know and I can try to bend the support away harder.

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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by confocaloid » July 30th, 2024, 6:38 am

amling wrote:
July 30th, 2024, 4:32 am
[...]
EDIT: Maybe p4's not so bad. Here are some fenceposts:

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x = 76, y = 78, rule = B3/S23
8b2o18bo$7bobo17bo$6bo5b2o12b2o2bo$5bo3bo4bo8b5ob2o$3b5o5bo4bo2bo4b2o$
2bo3bo2b2ob2o4bo2bo2bob2o4bo$bo2bo6bobobo3bo12b3o$bobo8bo2bob5o8bobo2b
o$2obobo7bobobo4bo6bo4b2o$4b2o6b2obo3b2o3bo3b4o$13bobob2ob8o3bo6bo$13b
ob2obo3bo3bo4bo5bo$5bobobobo8bobo2b2o9b2o2bo$b2o2bo4bo4b3o2bobo3bo6b5o
b2o$bobo4bobobo4b2obobob3obo2bo4b2o$7bobobobo2bo2b2o4bo2bo2bo2bob2o4bo
$3bo3bobobobo7bobobobobo12b3o$5bobo3bobob6o4bob5o8bobo2bo$b2o2bo7bo7b
3obobo4bo6bo4b2o$3bo13bobo5bo3b2o3bo3b4o$17bo3b3obob2ob8o3bo6bo$15bo
10bobo3bo3bo4bo5bo$14bo5b6o4bobo2b2o9b2o2bo$13bo2bobo7b2o2bobo3bo6b5ob
2o$12bob2o2bo3bobo2b2obobob3obo2bo4b2o$12bo3b2o4bo3bo2b2o4bo2bo2bo2bob
2o4bo$13bobo4bo10bobobobobo12b3o$14b2o3bo5b6o4bob5o8bobo2bo$18bo2bobo
7b3obobo4bo6bo4b2o$17bob2o2bo3bobo5bo3b2o3bo3b4o$17bo3b2o4bo3b3obob2ob
8o3bo6bo$18bobo4bo10bobo3bo3bo4bo5bo$19b2o3bo5b6o4bobo2b2o9b2o2bo$23bo
2bobo7b2o2bobo3bo6b5ob2o$22bob2o2bo3bobo2b2obobob3obo2bo4b2o$22bo3b2o
4bo3bo2b2o4bo2bo2bo2bob2o4bo$23bobo4bo10bobobobobo12b3o$24b2o3bo5b6o4b
ob5o8bobo2bo$28bo2bobo7b3obobo4bo6bo4b2o$27bob2o2bo3bobo5bo3b2o3bo3b4o
$27bo3b2o4bo3b3obob2ob8o3bo6bo$28bobo4bo10bobo3bo3bo4bo5bo$29b2o3bo5b
6o4bobo2b2o9b2o2bo$33bo2bobo7b2o2bobo3bo6b5ob2o$32bob2o2bo3bobo2b2obob
ob3obo2bo4b2o$32bo3b2o4bo3bo2b2o4bo2bo2bo2bob2o4bo$33bobo4bo10bobobobo
bo12b3o$34b2o3bo5b6o4bob5o8bobo2bo$38bo2bobo7b3obobo4bo6bo4b2o$37bob2o
2bo3bobo5bo3b2o3bo3b4o$37bo3b2o4bo3b3obob2ob8o3bo$38bobo4bo10bobo3bo3b
o4bo$39b2o3bo5b6o4bobo2b2o$43bo2bobo7b2o2bobo4bo$42bob2o2bo3bobo2b2obo
bobo3bo$42bo3b2o4bo3bo2b2o2bobo$43bobo4bo10bobo4b3o$44b2o3bo5b5obo2bob
obo$48bo2bobo6bobobob3o$47bob2o2bo3bobo2bo2bo4bo$47bo3b2o4bo4b2obob4o$
48bobo4bo9b3o$49b2o3bo11bob3o$53bo2bobo3b2obobo2bo$52bob2o2bo4bobobo$
52bo3b2o2bo2bo2bo$53bobo8b2o$54b2o3b2o2$61bo2$61b2o$65bobo$63bo2bo$64b
obob2o$62bobobo$62b2o2bobo$66b2o!
If you decide you need more clearance around the mouths let me know and I can try to bend the support away harder.
Of course, more clearance is always nice to have to simplify rebuilding bait objects. On the other hand, it looks like this solution already can be made into a working wire, along the following lines (with an additional property that the receiver end is "safe"; the pond that receives the spark would be placed last, so that any pulses that arrive too soon would be simply ignored without causing any damage):

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x = 118, y = 113, rule = B3/S23
69bo$63b2o4b3o27bo$58b3obobo7bo25bo$69b3obo24b3o$59b2o3bo3bo4bo$68b2o$
59bo4b2o6bo2bo$61b2o9b3obo$60bo2b2o8bobobo$62bo10bo2b2o$60bo2b3o5b3o$
61b2o8b2o$52b2o5bo3bo2bobobo2b2o$51bo2bo5b3o4b7obo$50bo2bobo3bo5bo7b2o
$50b2obobo5bobo2b5o16bo$52bo4bo2bo3bobo4bo14bobo$47b2o3bobo5bobobo2b5o
9bo4bo2bo$46bo2bo3bo3b2obob3ob2o4bo7bobo4b2o$45bo2bobo3bo5bobo2bo2bobo
bo8bobo$45b2obobo5bobobob3ob3obobo9b2o$47bo4bo2bo3bobo8b2o22b2o$42b2o
3bobo5bobobo2bob2obo5bo20b2o$41bo2bo3bo3b2obo4bob2obo7bo$40bo2bobo3bo
5bobo5b2o2b2o5b2o$40b2obobo5bobobob5o3bo6bo$42bo4bo2bo3bobo6bobob2o3bo
3bo$37b2o3bobo5bobobo2b5o3bob2o3bo3bo17b2o$36bo2bo3bo3b2obob3ob2o4bo4b
3o6bo3b2o12bobo$35bo2bobo3bo5bobo2bo2bobobo4b2o5b2o4b2o13b2o$35b2obobo
5bobobob3ob3obobo11b2o$37bo4bo2bo3bobo8b2o5b2obo9b2o3b2ob2o$32b2o3bobo
5bobobo2bob2obo5bo3bo2b3o7b2o3b2ob2o$31bo2bo3bo3b2obo4bob2obo7bo11b2o$
30bo2bobo3bo5bobo5b2o2b2o5b2o3bobo3b2o$30b2obobo5bobobob5o3bo6bo6b2o
18bo18b2o$32bo4bo2bo3bobo6bobob2o3bo3bo8b2o3b2ob2o5bo17bobo$27b2o3bobo
5bobobo2b5o3bob2o3bo3bo8b2o3b2ob2o2bo2b2o12b2o5bo$26bo2bo3bo3b2obob3ob
2o4bo4b3o6bo3b2o15b2ob5o8bo4bo3bo$25bo2bobo3bo5bobo2bo2bobobo4b2o5b2o
4b2o18b2o4bo2bo4bo5b5o$25b2obobo5bobobob3ob3obobo11b2o19bo4b2obo2bo2bo
4b2ob2o2bo3bo$27bo4bo2bo3bobo8b2o5b2obo9b2o3b2ob2o3b3o12bo3bobobo6bo2b
o$22b2o3bobo5bobobo2bob2obo5bo3bo2b3o7b2o3b2ob2o2bo2bobo8b5obo2bo8bobo
$21bo2bo3bo3b2obo4bob2obo7bo11b2o15b2o4bo6bo4bobobo7bobob2o$20bo2bobo
3bo5bobo5b2o2b2o5b2o3bobo3b2o19b4o3bo3b2o3bob2o6b2o$20b2obobo5bobobob
5o3bo6bo6b2o18bo6bo3b8ob2obobo$22bo4bo2bo3bobo6bobob2o3bo3bo8b2o3b2ob
2o5bo5bo4bo3bo3bob2obo$17b2o3bobo5bobobo2b5o3bob2o3bo3bo8b2o3b2ob2o2bo
2b2o9b2o2bobo8bobobobo$16bo2bo3bo3b2obob3ob2o4bo4b3o6bo3b2o15b2ob5o6bo
3bobo2b3o4bo4bo2b2o$15bo2bobo3bo5bobo2bo2bobobo4b2o5b2o4b2o18b2o4bo2bo
b3obobob2o4bobobo4bobo$15b2obobo5bobobob3ob3obobo11b2o19bo4b2obo2bo2bo
2bo4b2o2bo2bobobobo$17bo4bo2bo3bobo8b2o5b2obo9b2o3b2ob2o3b3o12bobobobo
bo7bobobobo3bo$12b2o3bobo5bobobo2bob2obo5bo3bo2b3o7b2o3b2ob2o2bo2bobo
8b5obo4b6obobo3bobo$11bo2bo3bo3b2obo4bob2obo7bo11b2o15b2o4bo6bo4bobob
3o7bo7bo2b2o$10bo2bobo3bo5bobo5b2o2b2o5b2o3bobo3b2o19b4o3bo3b2o3bo5bob
o13bo$10b2obobo5bobobob5o3bo6bo6b2o18bo6bo3b8ob2obob3o3bo$12bo4bo2bo3b
obo6bobob2o3bo3bo8b2o3b2ob2o5bo5bo4bo3bo3bobo10bo$12bobo5bobobo2b5o3bo
b2o3bo3bo8b2o3b2ob2o2bo2b2o9b2o2bobo4b6o5bo$13bo3b2obob3ob2o4bo4b3o6bo
3b2o15b2ob5o6bo3bobo2b2o7bobo2bo$11bobo6bobo2bo2bobobo4b2o5b2o4b2o18b
2o4bo2bob3obobob2o2bobo3bo2b2obo$9bobo7bo2b3ob3obobo11b2o19bo4b2obo2bo
2bo2bo4b2o2bo3bo4b2o3bo$7bo12b2o8b2o5b2obo9b2o3b2ob2o3b3o12bobobobobo
10bo4bobo$b2o2bobo6bo2b3o3b3obo5bo3bo2b3o7b2o3b2ob2o2bo2bobo8b5obo4b6o
5bo3b2o$bo10b3o2bo3b2o2bo7bo11b2o15b2o4bo6bo4bobob3o7bobo2bo$2b3o6bo3b
2o2b2o2bo3b2o5b2o3bobo3b2o19b4o3bo3b2o3bo5bobo3bo2b2obo$11bob2ob3o2bo
2b2o6bo6b2o18bo6bo3b8ob2obob3o3bo4b2o3bo$6o6bo6b2o3b2ob2o3bo3bo8b2o3b
2ob2o5bo5bo4bo3bo3bobo10bo4bobo$o12b2o2bo3bo2b2ob2o3bo3bo8b2o3b2ob2o2b
o2b2o9b2o2bobo4b6o5bo3b2o$2bobo10bobobob2o4b3o6bo3b2o15b2ob5o6bo3bobo
2b2o7bobo2bo$2bo12bobobobo5b2o5b2o4b2o18b2o4bo2bob3obobob2o2bobo3bo2b
2obo$14b2ob2o15b2o19bo4b2obo2bo2bo2bo4b2o2bo3bo4b2o3bo$27b2obo9b2o3b2o
b2o3b3o12bobobobobo10bo4bobo$27bo2b3o7b2o3b2ob2o2bo2bobo8b5obo4b6o5bo
3b2o$35b2o15b2o4bo6bo4bobob3o7bobo2bo$29bobo3b2o19b4o3bo3b2o3bo5bobo3b
o2b2obo$29b2o18bo6bo3b8ob2obob3o3bo4b2o3bo$35b2o3b2ob2o5bo5bo4bo3bo3bo
bo10bo4bobo$35b2o3b2ob2o2bo2b2o9b2o2bobo4b6o5bo3b2o$47b2ob5o6bo3bobo2b
2o7bobo2bo$50b2o4bo2bob3obobob2o2bobo3bo2b2obo$37b2o6bo4b2obo2bo2bo2bo
4b2o2bo3bo4b2o3bo$36bo2bo3b3o12bobobobobo10bo4bobo$36bo2bo2bo2bobo8b5o
bo4b6o5bo3b2o$37b2o3b2o4bo6bo4bobob3o7bobo2bo$46b4o3bo3b2o3bo5bobo3bo
2b2obo$46bo3b8ob2obob3o3bo4b2o3bo$46bo4bo3bo3bobo10bo4bobo$51b2o2bobo
4b6o5bo3b2o$50bo4bobo2b2o7bobo2bo$49bo3bobobob2o2bobo3bo2b2obo$52bobo
2b2o2bo3bo4b2o3bo$47b3o4bobo10bo4bobo$49bobobo2bob5o5bo3b2o$49b3obobob
o6bobo2bo$47bo4bo2bo2bobo3bo2b2obo$47b4obob2o4bo4b2o3bo$50b3o9bo4bobo$
24b2o21b3obo11bo3b2o$25b2o20bo2bobob2o3bobo2bo$24bo25bobobo4bo2b2obo$
51bo2bo2bo2b2o3bo$52b2o8bobo$57b2o3b2o2$56bo2$55b2o$50bobo$51bo2bo$48b
2obobo$51bobobo$49bobo2b2o$50b2o!
EDIT: and here are recipes for clean injection (7 gliders) and receiver recovery (13 gliders):

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#C [[ THEME LifeHistory ]]
x = 484, y = 488, rule = B3/S23
481bobo$481b2o$482bo39$463bo$463bobo$463b2o9$422bo$422bobo$422b2o5$
206bo$204bobo214bobo$205b2o214b2o$422bo22$221bobo$222b2o$222bo6$227bob
o$228b2o$228bo2$392bo$390b2o$391b2o5$247bobo$241bo6b2o$239bobo6bo$240b
2o55$289bo$283b2o4b3o$278b3obobo7bo$289b3obo$279b2o3bo3bo4bo$288b2o$
279bo4b2o6bo2bo51bo$281b2o9b3obo48b3o$280bo2b2o8bobobo46bo$282bo10bo2b
2o45bobo$280bo2b3o5b3o50bo$281b2o8b2o$272b2o5bo3bo2bobobo2b2o$271bo2bo
5b3o4b7obo46b2o$270bo2bobo3bo5bo7b2o47b2o$270b2obobo5bobo2b5o$272bo4bo
2bo3bobo4bo$267b2o3bobo5bobobo2b5o$266bo2bo3bo3b2obob3ob2o4bo$265bo2bo
bo3bo5bobo2bo2bobobo$265b2obobo5bobobob3ob3obobo$267bo4bo2bo3bobo8b2o$
262b2o3bobo5bobobo2bob2obo5bo$261bo2bo3bo3b2obo4bob2obo7bo$260bo2bobo
3bo5bobo5b2o2b2o5b2o$260b2obobo5bobobob5o3bo6bo$262bo4bo2bo3bobo6bobob
2o3bo3bo$257b2o3bobo5bobobo2b5o3bob2o3bo3bo$256bo2bo3bo3b2obob3ob2o4bo
4b3o6bo3b2o$255bo2bobo3bo5bobo2bo2bobobo4b2o5b2o4b2o$255b2obobo5bobobo
b3ob3obobo11b2o$257bo4bo2bo3bobo8b2o5b2obo9b2o3b2ob2o$252b2o3bobo5bobo
bo2bob2obo5bo3bo2b3o7b2o3b2ob2o$251bo2bo3bo3b2obo4bob2obo7bo11b2o$250b
o2bobo3bo5bobo5b2o2b2o5b2o3bobo3b2o$250b2obobo5bobobob5o3bo6bo6b2o18bo
18b2o$252bo4bo2bo3bobo6bobob2o3bo3bo8b2o3b2ob2o5bo17bobo$247b2o3bobo5b
obobo2b5o3bob2o3bo3bo8b2o3b2ob2o2bo2b2o12b2o5bo$246bo2bo3bo3b2obob3ob
2o4bo4b3o6bo3b2o15b2ob5o8bo4bo3bo$245bo2bobo3bo5bobo2bo2bobobo4b2o5b2o
4b2o18b2o4bo2bo4bo5b5o$245b2obobo5bobobob3ob3obobo11b2o19bo4b2obo2bo2b
o4b2ob2o2bo3bo$247bo4bo2bo3bobo8b2o5b2obo9b2o3b2ob2o3b3o12bo3bobobo6bo
2bo$242b2o3bobo5bobobo2bob2obo5bo3bo2b3o7b2o3b2ob2o2bo2bobo8b5obo2bo8b
obo$241bo2bo3bo3b2obo4bob2obo7bo11b2o15b2o4bo6bo4bobobo7bobob2o$240bo
2bobo3bo5bobo5b2o2b2o5b2o3bobo3b2o19b4o3bo3b2o3bob2o6b2o$240b2obobo5bo
bobob5o3bo6bo6b2o18bo6bo3b8ob2obobo$242bo4bo2bo3bobo6bobob2o3bo3bo8b2o
3b2ob2o5bo5bo4bo3bo3bob2obo$237b2o3bobo5bobobo2b5o3bob2o3bo3bo8b2o3b2o
b2o2bo2b2o9b2o2bobo8bobobobo$236bo2bo3bo3b2obob3ob2o4bo4b3o6bo3b2o15b
2ob5o6bo3bobo2b3o4bo4bo2b2o$235bo2bobo3bo5bobo2bo2bobobo4b2o5b2o4b2o
18b2o4bo2bob3obobob2o4bobobo4bobo$235b2obobo5bobobob3ob3obobo11b2o19bo
4b2obo2bo2bo2bo4b2o2bo2bobobobo$237bo4bo2bo3bobo8b2o5b2obo9b2o3b2ob2o
3b3o12bobobobobo7bobobobo3bo$232b2o3bobo5bobobo2bob2obo5bo3bo2b3o7b2o
3b2ob2o2bo2bobo8b5obo4b6obobo3bobo$231bo2bo3bo3b2obo4bob2obo7bo11b2o
15b2o4bo6bo4bobob3o7bo7bo2b2o$230bo2bobo3bo5bobo5b2o2b2o5b2o3bobo3b2o
19b4o3bo3b2o3bo5bobo13bo$230b2obobo5bobobob5o3bo6bo6b2o18bo6bo3b8ob2ob
ob3o3bo$232bo4bo2bo3bobo6bobob2o3bo3bo8b2o3b2ob2o5bo5bo4bo3bo3bobo10bo
$227b2o3bobo5bobobo2b5o3bob2o3bo3bo8b2o3b2ob2o2bo2b2o9b2o2bobo4b6o5bo$
226bo2bo3bo3b2obob3ob2o4bo4b3o6bo3b2o15b2ob5o6bo3bobo2b2o7bobo2bo$225b
o2bobo3bo5bobo2bo2bobobo4b2o5b2o4b2o18b2o4bo2bob3obobob2o2bobo3bo2b2ob
o$225b2obobo5bobobob3ob3obobo11b2o19bo4b2obo2bo2bo2bo4b2o2bo3bo4b2o3bo
$227bo4bo2bo3bobo8b2o5b2obo9b2o3b2ob2o3b3o12bobobobobo10bo4bobo$222b2o
3bobo5bobobo2bob2obo5bo3bo2b3o7b2o3b2ob2o2bo2bobo8b5obo4b6o5bo3b2o$
221bo2bo3bo3b2obo4bob2obo7bo11b2o15b2o4bo6bo4bobob3o7bobo2bo$220bo2bob
o3bo5bobo5b2o2b2o5b2o3bobo3b2o19b4o3bo3b2o3bo5bobo3bo2b2obo$220b2obobo
5bobobob5o3bo6bo6b2o18bo6bo3b8ob2obob3o3bo4b2o3bo$222bo4bo2bo3bobo6bob
ob2o3bo3bo8b2o3b2ob2o5bo5bo4bo3bo3bobo10bo4bobo$217b2o3bobo5bobobo2b5o
3bob2o3bo3bo8b2o3b2ob2o2bo2b2o9b2o2bobo4b6o5bo3b2o$216bo2bo3bo3b2obob
3ob2o4bo4b3o6bo3b2o15b2ob5o6bo3bobo2b2o7bobo2bo$215bo2bobo3bo5bobo2bo
2bobobo4b2o5b2o4b2o18b2o4bo2bob3obobob2o2bobo3bo2b2obo$215b2obobo5bobo
bob3ob3obobo11b2o19bo4b2obo2bo2bo2bo4b2o2bo3bo4b2o3bo$217bo4bo2bo3bobo
8b2o5b2obo9b2o3b2ob2o3b3o12bobobobobo10bo4bobo$212b2o3bobo5bobobo2bob
2obo5bo3bo2b3o7b2o3b2ob2o2bo2bobo8b5obo4b6o5bo3b2o$211bo2bo3bo3b2obo4b
ob2obo7bo11b2o15b2o4bo6bo4bobob3o7bobo2bo$210bo2bobo3bo5bobo5b2o2b2o5b
2o3bobo3b2o19b4o3bo3b2o3bo5bobo3bo2b2obo$210b2obobo5bobobob5o3bo6bo6b
2o18bo6bo3b8ob2obob3o3bo4b2o3bo$212bo4bo2bo3bobo6bobob2o3bo3bo8b2o3b2o
b2o5bo5bo4bo3bo3bobo10bo4bobo$207b2o3bobo5bobobo2b5o3bob2o3bo3bo8b2o3b
2ob2o2bo2b2o9b2o2bobo4b6o5bo3b2o$206bo2bo3bo3b2obob3ob2o4bo4b3o6bo3b2o
15b2ob5o6bo3bobo2b2o7bobo2bo$205bo2bobo3bo5bobo2bo2bobobo4b2o5b2o4b2o
18b2o4bo2bob3obobob2o2bobo3bo2b2obo$205b2obobo5bobobob3ob3obobo11b2o
19bo4b2obo2bo2bo2bo4b2o2bo3bo4b2o3bo$207bo4bo2bo3bobo8b2o5b2obo9b2o3b
2ob2o3b3o12bobobobobo10bo4bobo$202b2o3bobo5bobobo2bob2obo5bo3bo2b3o7b
2o3b2ob2o2bo2bobo8b5obo4b6o5bo3b2o$201bo2bo3bo3b2obo4bob2obo7bo11b2o
15b2o4bo6bo4bobob3o7bobo2bo$200bo2bobo3bo5bobo5b2o2b2o5b2o3bobo3b2o19b
4o3bo3b2o3bo5bobo3bo2b2obo$200b2obobo5bobobob5o3bo6bo6b2o18bo6bo3b8ob
2obob3o3bo4b2o3bo$202bo4bo2bo3bobo6bobob2o3bo3bo8b2o3b2ob2o5bo5bo4bo3b
o3bobo10bo4bobo$197b2o3bobo5bobobo2b5o3bob2o3bo3bo8b2o3b2ob2o2bo2b2o9b
2o2bobo4b6o5bo3b2o89b3o$196bo2bo3bo3b2obob3ob2o4bo4b3o6bo3b2o15b2ob5o
6bo3bobo2b2o7bobo2bo93bo$195bo2bobo3bo5bobo2bo2bobobo4b2o5b2o4b2o18b2o
4bo2bob3obobob2o2bobo3bo2b2obo93bo$195b2obobo5bobobob3ob3obobo11b2o19b
o4b2obo2bo2bo2bo4b2o2bo3bo4b2o3bo$197bo4bo2bo3bobo8b2o5b2obo9b2o3b2ob
2o3b3o12bobobobobo10bo4bobo$192b2o3bobo5bobobo2bob2obo5bo3bo2b3o7b2o3b
2ob2o2bo2bobo8b5obo4b6o5bo3b2o$191bo2bo3bo3b2obo4bob2obo7bo11b2o15b2o
4bo6bo4bobob3o7bobo2bo$190bo2bobo3bo5bobo5b2o2b2o5b2o3bobo3b2o19b4o3bo
3b2o3bo5bobo3bo2b2obo$190b2obobo5bobobob5o3bo6bo6b2o18bo6bo3b8ob2obob
3o3bo4b2o3bo$192bo4bo2bo3bobo6bobob2o3bo3bo8b2o3b2ob2o5bo5bo4bo3bo3bob
o10bo4bobo$187b2o3bobo5bobobo2b5o3bob2o3bo3bo8b2o3b2ob2o2bo2b2o9b2o2bo
bo4b6o5bo3b2o$186bo2bo3bo3b2obob3ob2o4bo4b3o6bo3b2o15b2ob5o6bo3bobo2b
2o7bobo2bo$185bo2bobo3bo5bobo2bo2bobobo4b2o5b2o4b2o18b2o4bo2bob3obobob
2o2bobo3bo2b2obo$185b2obobo5bobobob3ob3obobo11b2o19bo4b2obo2bo2bo2bo4b
2o2bo3bo4b2o3bo$187bo4bo2bo3bobo8b2o5b2obo9b2o3b2ob2o3b3o12bobobobobo
10bo4bobo$182b2o3bobo5bobobo2bob2obo5bo3bo2b3o7b2o3b2ob2o2bo2bobo8b5ob
o4b6o5bo3b2o$181bo2bo3bo3b2obo4bob2obo7bo11b2o15b2o4bo6bo4bobob3o7bobo
2bo$180bo2bobo3bo5bobo5b2o2b2o5b2o3bobo3b2o19b4o3bo3b2o3bo5bobo3bo2b2o
bo$180b2obobo5bobobob5o3bo6bo6b2o18bo6bo3b8ob2obob3o3bo4b2o3bo$182bo4b
o2bo3bobo6bobob2o3bo3bo8b2o3b2ob2o5bo5bo4bo3bo3bobo10bo4bobo$177b2o3bo
bo5bobobo2b5o3bob2o3bo3bo8b2o3b2ob2o2bo2b2o9b2o2bobo4b6o5bo3b2o$176bo
2bo3bo3b2obob3ob2o4bo4b3o6bo3b2o15b2ob5o6bo3bobo2b2o7bobo2bo$175bo2bob
o3bo5bobo2bo2bobobo4b2o5b2o4b2o18b2o4bo2bob3obobob2o2bobo3bo2b2obo$
175b2obobo5bobobob3ob3obobo11b2o19bo4b2obo2bo2bo2bo4b2o2bo3bo4b2o3bo$
177bo4bo2bo3bobo8b2o5b2obo9b2o3b2ob2o3b3o12bobobobobo10bo4bobo$172b2o
3bobo5bobobo2bob2obo5bo3bo2b3o7b2o3b2ob2o2bo2bobo8b5obo4b6o5bo3b2o$
171bo2bo3bo3b2obo4bob2obo7bo11b2o15b2o4bo6bo4bobob3o7bobo2bo$170bo2bob
o3bo5bobo5b2o2b2o5b2o3bobo3b2o19b4o3bo3b2o3bo5bobo3bo2b2obo$170b2obobo
5bobobob5o3bo6bo6b2o18bo6bo3b8ob2obob3o3bo4b2o3bo$172bo4bo2bo3bobo6bob
ob2o3bo3bo8b2o3b2ob2o5bo5bo4bo3bo3bobo10bo4bobo$167b2o3bobo5bobobo2b5o
3bob2o3bo3bo8b2o3b2ob2o2bo2b2o9b2o2bobo4b6o5bo3b2o$166bo2bo3bo3b2obob
3ob2o4bo4b3o6bo3b2o15b2ob5o6bo3bobo2b2o7bobo2bo$165bo2bobo3bo5bobo2bo
2bobobo4b2o5b2o4b2o18b2o4bo2bob3obobob2o2bobo3bo2b2obo$165b2obobo5bobo
bob3ob3obobo11b2o19bo4b2obo2bo2bo2bo4b2o2bo3bo4b2o3bo$167bo4bo2bo3bobo
8b2o5b2obo9b2o3b2ob2o3b3o12bobobobobo10bo4bobo$162b2o3bobo5bobobo2bob
2obo5bo3bo2b3o7b2o3b2ob2o2bo2bobo8b5obo4b6o5bo3b2o$161bo2bo3bo3b2obo4b
ob2obo7bo11b2o15b2o4bo6bo4bobob3o7bobo2bo$160bo2bobo3bo5bobo5b2o2b2o5b
2o3bobo3b2o19b4o3bo3b2o3bo5bobo3bo2b2obo$160b2obobo5bobobob5o3bo6bo6b
2o18bo6bo3b8ob2obob3o3bo4b2o3bo$162bo4bo2bo3bobo6bobob2o3bo3bo8b2o3b2o
b2o5bo5bo4bo3bo3bobo10bo4bobo$157b2o3bobo5bobobo2b5o3bob2o3bo3bo8b2o3b
2ob2o2bo2b2o9b2o2bobo4b6o5bo3b2o$156bo2bo3bo3b2obob3ob2o4bo4b3o6bo3b2o
15b2ob5o6bo3bobo2b2o7bobo2bo$155bo2bobo3bo5bobo2bo2bobobo4b2o5b2o4b2o
18b2o4bo2bob3obobob2o2bobo3bo2b2obo$155b2obobo5bobobob3ob3obobo11b2o
19bo4b2obo2bo2bo2bo4b2o2bo3bo4b2o3bo$157bo4bo2bo3bobo8b2o5b2obo9b2o3b
2ob2o3b3o12bobobobobo10bo4bobo$152b2o3bobo5bobobo2bob2obo5bo3bo2b3o7b
2o3b2ob2o2bo2bobo8b5obo4b6o5bo3b2o$151bo2bo3bo3b2obo4bob2obo7bo11b2o
15b2o4bo6bo4bobob3o7bobo2bo$150bo2bobo3bo5bobo5b2o2b2o5b2o3bobo3b2o19b
4o3bo3b2o3bo5bobo3bo2b2obo$150b2obobo5bobobob5o3bo6bo6b2o18bo6bo3b8ob
2obob3o3bo4b2o3bo$152bo4bo2bo3bobo6bobob2o3bo3bo8b2o3b2ob2o5bo5bo4bo3b
o3bobo10bo4bobo$147b2o3bobo5bobobo2b5o3bob2o3bo3bo8b2o3b2ob2o2bo2b2o9b
2o2bobo4b6o5bo3b2o$146bo2bo3bo3b2obob3ob2o4bo4b3o6bo3b2o15b2ob5o6bo3bo
bo2b2o7bobo2bo$145bo2bobo3bo5bobo2bo2bobobo4b2o5b2o4b2o18b2o4bo2bob3ob
obob2o2bobo3bo2b2obo$145b2obobo5bobobob3ob3obobo11b2o19bo4b2obo2bo2bo
2bo4b2o2bo3bo4b2o3bo$147bo4bo2bo3bobo8b2o5b2obo9b2o3b2ob2o3b3o12bobobo
bobo10bo4bobo$142b2o3bobo5bobobo2bob2obo5bo3bo2b3o7b2o3b2ob2o2bo2bobo
8b5obo4b6o5bo3b2o$141bo2bo3bo3b2obo4bob2obo7bo11b2o15b2o4bo6bo4bobob3o
7bobo2bo$140bo2bobo3bo5bobo5b2o2b2o5b2o3bobo3b2o19b4o3bo3b2o3bo5bobo3b
o2b2obo226b2o$140b2obobo5bobobob5o3bo6bo6b2o18bo6bo3b8ob2obob3o3bo4b2o
3bo220b2o3b2o$142bo4bo2bo3bobo6bobob2o3bo3bo8b2o3b2ob2o5bo5bo4bo3bo3bo
bo10bo4bobo220b2o6bo$137b2o3bobo5bobobo2b5o3bob2o3bo3bo8b2o3b2ob2o2bo
2b2o9b2o2bobo4b6o5bo3b2o223bo$136bo2bo3bo3b2obob3ob2o4bo4b3o6bo3b2o15b
2ob5o6bo3bobo2b2o7bobo2bo$135bo2bobo3bo5bobo2bo2bobobo4b2o5b2o4b2o18b
2o4bo2bob3obobob2o2bobo3bo2b2obo$135b2obobo5bobobob3ob3obobo11b2o19bo
4b2obo2bo2bo2bo4b2o2bo3bo4b2o3bo$137bo4bo2bo3bobo8b2o5b2obo9b2o3b2ob2o
3b3o12bobobobobo10bo4bobo$132b2o3bobo5bobobo2bob2obo5bo3bo2b3o7b2o3b2o
b2o2bo2bobo8b5obo4b6o5bo3b2o$131bo2bo3bo3b2obo4bob2obo7bo11b2o15b2o4bo
6bo4bobob3o7bobo2bo$130bo2bobo3bo5bobo5b2o2b2o5b2o3bobo3b2o19b4o3bo3b
2o3bo5bobo3bo2b2obo$130b2obobo5bobobob5o3bo6bo6b2o18bo6bo3b8ob2obob3o
3bo4b2o3bo$132bo4bo2bo3bobo6bobob2o3bo3bo8b2o3b2ob2o5bo5bo4bo3bo3bobo
10bo4bobo$127b2o3bobo5bobobo2b5o3bob2o3bo3bo8b2o3b2ob2o2bo2b2o9b2o2bob
o4b6o5bo3b2o$126bo2bo3bo3b2obob3ob2o4bo4b3o6bo3b2o15b2ob5o6bo3bobo2b2o
7bobo2bo$125bo2bobo3bo5bobo2bo2bobobo4b2o5b2o4b2o18b2o4bo2bob3obobob2o
2bobo3bo2b2obo$125b2obobo5bobobob3ob3obobo11b2o19bo4b2obo2bo2bo2bo4b2o
2bo3bo4b2o3bo$127bo4bo2bo3bobo8b2o5b2obo9b2o3b2ob2o3b3o12bobobobobo10b
o4bobo$122b2o3bobo5bobobo2bob2obo5bo3bo2b3o7b2o3b2ob2o2bo2bobo8b5obo4b
6o5bo3b2o$121bo2bo3bo3b2obo4bob2obo7bo11b2o15b2o4bo6bo4bobob3o7bobo2bo
$120bo2bobo3bo5bobo5b2o2b2o5b2o3bobo3b2o19b4o3bo3b2o3bo5bobo3bo2b2obo$
120b2obobo5bobobob5o3bo6bo6b2o18bo6bo3b8ob2obob3o3bo4b2o3bo$122bo4bo2b
o3bobo6bobob2o3bo3bo8b2o3b2ob2o5bo5bo4bo3bo3bobo10bo4bobo$117b2o3bobo
5bobobo2b5o3bob2o3bo3bo8b2o3b2ob2o2bo2b2o9b2o2bobo4b6o5bo3b2o$116bo2bo
3bo3b2obob3ob2o4bo4b3o6bo3b2o15b2ob5o6bo3bobo2b2o7bobo2bo$115bo2bobo3b
o5bobo2bo2bobobo4b2o5b2o4b2o18b2o4bo2bob3obobob2o2bobo3bo2b2obo$102bo
12b2obobo5bobobob3ob3obobo11b2o19bo4b2obo2bo2bo2bo4b2o2bo3bo4b2o3bo$
102bobo12bo4bo2bo3bobo8b2o5b2obo9b2o3b2ob2o3b3o12bobobobobo10bo4bobo$
100bo11b2o3bobo5bobobo2bob2obo5bo3bo2b3o7b2o3b2ob2o2bo2bobo8b5obo4b6o
5bo3b2o$100b6o5bo2bo3bo3b2obo4bob2obo7bo11b2o15b2o4bo6bo4bobob3o7bobo
2bo$110bo2bobo3bo5bobo5b2o2b2o5b2o3bobo3b2o19b4o3bo3b2o3bo5bobo3bo2b2o
bo$102b3o5b2obobo5bobobob5o3bo6bo6b2o18bo6bo3b8ob2obob3o3bo4b2o3bo$
101bo10bo4bo2bo3bobo6bobob2o3bo3bo8b2o3b2ob2o5bo5bo4bo3bo3bobo10bo4bob
o$101b2o2bobo4bobo5bobobo2b5o3bob2o3bo3bo8b2o3b2ob2o2bo2b2o9b2o2bobo4b
6o5bo3b2o$107bo5bo3b2obob3ob2o4bo4b3o6bo3b2o15b2ob5o6bo3bobo2b2o7bobo
2bo$109bobobo6bobo2bo2bobobo4b2o5b2o4b2o18b2o4bo2bob3obobob2o2bobo3bo
2b2obo$111bo7bo2b3ob3obobo11b2o19bo4b2obo2bo2bo2bo4b2o2bo3bo4b2o3bo$
120b2o8b2o5b2obo9b2o3b2ob2o3b3o12bobobobobo10bo4bobo$114bo2b3o3b3obo5b
o3bo2b3o7b2o3b2ob2o2bo2bobo8b5obo4b6o5bo3b2o$112b3o2bo3b2o2bo7bo11b2o
15b2o4bo6bo4bobob3o7bobo2bo$111bo3b2o2b2o2bo3b2o5b2o3bobo3b2o19b4o3bo
3b2o3bo5bobo3bo2b2obo$111bob2ob3o2bo2b2o6bo6b2o18bo6bo3b8ob2obob3o3bo
4b2o3bo$112bo6b2o3b2ob2o3bo3bo8b2o3b2ob2o5bo5bo4bo3bo3bobo10bo4bobo$
113b2o2bo3bo2b2ob2o3bo3bo8b2o3b2ob2o2bo2b2o9b2o2bobo4b6o5bo3b2o$115bob
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239b2o$239bobo!
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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by HartmutHolzwart » February 14th, 2025, 1:17 pm

May you could now give Venetian blinds agar ships another try. Ther are well known results for back parts at p4, but I struggle otherwise.

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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by amling » February 14th, 2025, 2:50 pm

HartmutHolzwart wrote:
February 14th, 2025, 1:17 pm
May you could now give Venetian blinds agar ships another try. Ther are well known results for back parts at p4, but I struggle otherwise.
A simple local argument shows a west half plane of vertical blinds in all generations implies a complete plane. This does not necessarily mean no agar ship is possible but it does mean no level side edge is possible (at any speed or even for an oscillator) and that the agar is likely to be finicky.

Searching f2b and b2f with wrap-hax at c/4 and 2c/4 all fall into cycles of column counts pretty quickly which is moderate evidence there is no possible c/4 or 2c/4 level back or front. This of course also does not necessarily mean no agar ship possible but it's further evidence of finickiness.

In my previous attempts searching around this agar was both extremely finicky and had a few possible sloped c/2 seams to other agars which were not helpful and tended to gum up searches so I'm not optimistic about going back to this.
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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by HartmutHolzwart » February 14th, 2025, 6:36 pm

I was wondering whether one could prove that there is no finite completion at period 4. If there is any, then it must be somewhat rhombic shape.

I also ran into the periodic agar when searching for completions and wonder whether that agar is inevitable, but maybe not completable. Unfortunately I don’t have the partials I mean at hand!

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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by amling » March 4th, 2025, 4:28 pm

Gah, so close to a possible front corner for a 2c/5 mixed vertical and horizontal stripes greyship:

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bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo5bobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob2o3b2obobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo9bobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo9bobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo2bo7bo2bobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo6bo6bobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo2b2obobob2o2bobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob2ob2obobob2ob2obob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobob
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obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo2bo2bobo
2bo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo5bob
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bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob2o3b2ob
2o3b2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob3ob
obob3obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob7ob
7obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo5bobo5bo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo3bobo5bobo3b
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo3bo5bo3bobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo2bo2bo5bo2bo2b
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo13bobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob6o3b6obobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo7bobo7bobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob2o7b2obobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo2bo7bo2bobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo2bo2bobo2bo2bobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo17bobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo4b3o3b3o4bobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobo6b2ob2o6bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobob3o2bo7bo2b3obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobo3b2ob4ob4ob2o3bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobo4bobob2ob2obobo4bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobo2bobobob2ob2obobobo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobob2obo7bob2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobo4bo7bo4bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobob2o2b3o5b3o2b2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobo5b3o5b3o5bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobo5bo9bo5bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
21bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob2o19b2obobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo3bo17bo3bobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob2o3bo11bo3b2obobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobob3o9b3obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobo2bo7bo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobo6b2obo5bob2o6bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobob3o2b2obo5bob2o2b3obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobob2obo6b2o3b2o6bob2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobo2bob2o3bo5bo3b2obo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobo8bo3bo8bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
ob2obo3bob2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
2b6o5b6o2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
o$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo2b3o
7b3o2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob2o11b
2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo13bobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo2bo11bo2bobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo2b2o9b2o2bobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobob
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bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobo
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obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobob2o11b2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobo2b2ob3o5b3ob2o2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobob3o3bo2bo3bo2bo3b3obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobo5bobo9bobo5bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobo2b3obo2bo5bo2bob3o2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
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bobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
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obobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo9bo
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bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo17bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
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bobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobo13bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobo2b13o2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobo13bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bob11obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
13bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$o
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob7ob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$ob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo9bobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo2b5o2bob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo5bobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob7obob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo5bobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo5bob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$ob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo5bo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$o
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo5b
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo!
Unfortunately I'm not having any luck turning that bottom parallel-to-perpendicular seam outwards before it crashes into the center axis of symmetry.

There's also something like this:

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x = 123, y = 111, rule = B3/S23
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2bo7bo2bo5bo2bo7bo2bo5bo2bo7bo2bo5bo2bo7bo2bo5bo2bo$4bobo9bobo5bobo9bo
bo5bobo9bobo5bobo9bobo5bobo9bobo5bobo9bobo$4bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo
3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo$3b2ob3o5b3ob2o3b2ob3o5b
3ob2o3b2ob3o5b3ob2o3b2ob3o5b3ob2o3b2ob3o5b3ob2o3b2ob3o5b3ob2o$bo2bobob
o5bobobo2bo2bobobo5bobobo2bo2bobobo5bobobo2bo2bobobo5bobobo2bo2bobobo
5bobobo2bo2bobobo5bobobo2bo$obobobob2o3b2obobobobobobob2o3b2obobobobob
obob2o3b2obobobobobobob2o3b2obobobobobobob2o3b2obobobobobobob2o3b2obob
obobo$obobobo3bobo3bobobobobobo3bobo3bobobobobobo3bobo3bobobobobobo3bo
bo3bobobobobobo3bobo3bobobobobobo3bobo3bobobobo$obobobob2o3b2obobobobo
bobob2o3b2obobobobobobob2o3b2obobobobobobob2o3b2obobobobobobob2o3b2obo
bobobobobob2o3b2obobobobo$obobobo2bo3bo2bobobobobobo2bo3bo2bobobobobob
o2bo3bo2bobobobobobo2bo3bo2bobobobobobo2bo3bo2bobobobobobo2bo3bo2bobob
obo$obobob2o7b2obobobobob2o7b2obobobobob2o7b2obobobobob2o7b2obobobobob
2o7b2obobobobob2o7b2obobobo$obobobo3bobo3bobobobobobo3bobo3bobobobobob
o3bobo3bobobobobobo3bobo3bobobobobobo3bobo3bobobobobobo3bobo3bobobobo$
obobo2bobo3bobo2bobobobo2bobo3bobo2bobobobo2bobo3bobo2bobobobo2bobo3bo
bo2bobobobo2bobo3bobo2bobobobo2bobo3bobo2bobobo$obobo13bobobobo13bobob
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obobobo13bobobobo13bobobobo13bobobo$obob2o11b2obobob2o11b2obobob2o11b
2obobob2o11b2obobob2o11b2obobob2o11b2obobo$obo3bobo5bobo3bobo3bobo5bob
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3b2ob2o3b2obobob2o3b2ob2o3b2obobob2o3b2ob2o3b2obobob2o3b2ob2o3b2obobob
2o3b2ob2o3b2obobo$obo2b3o2bobo2b3o2bobo2b3o2bobo2b3o2bobo2b3o2bobo2b3o
2bobo2b3o2bobo2b3o2bobo2b3o2bobo2b3o2bobo2b3o2bobo2b3o2bobo$5b2obobobo
bob2o7b2obobobobob2o7b2obobobobob2o7b2obobobobob2o7b2obobobobob2o7b2ob
obobobob2o$5b2obobobobob2o7b2obobobobob2o7b2obobobobob2o7b2obobobobob
2o7b2obobobobob2o7b2obobobobob2o$8bobobobo13bobobobo13bobobobo13bobobo
bo13bobobobo13bobobobo$obobo2b2obobob2o2bobobobo2b2obobob2o2bobobobo2b
2obobob2o2bobobobo2b2obobob2o2bobobobo2b2obobob2o2bobobobo2b2obobob2o
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bobobobobo$obobobobobobobo29b4o5bo5b5o5bo5b4o29bobobobobobobobo!
But similarly no luck solving that 2c/5 perpendicular stripes negative signal.

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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by HartmutHolzwart » March 6th, 2025, 6:34 pm

I know you wrote in 2023 that you won't spend time on completing any of the waves you found. but this one I would really like to see completed:

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x = 133, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo$3o3b
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3b3o3b3o3b3o$ob2ob2obo3bob2ob2obo3bob2ob2obo3bob2ob2obo3bob2ob2obo3bob
2ob2obo3bob2ob2obo3bob2ob2obo3bob2ob2obo3bob2ob2obo3bob2ob2obo$b3ob3o
5b3ob3o5b3ob3o5b3ob3o5b3ob3o5b3ob3o5b3ob3o5b3ob3o5b3ob3o5b3ob3o5b3ob3o
$b2o3b2o5b2o3b2o5b2o3b2o5b2o3b2o5b2o3b2o5b2o3b2o5b2o3b2o5b2o3b2o5b2o3b
2o5b2o3b2o5b2o3b2o2$10bo11bo11bo11bo11bo11bo11bo11bo11bo11bo11bo$9b3o
9b3o9b3o9b3o9b3o9b3o9b3o9b3o9b3o9b3o9b3o$9bo2bo8bo2bo8bo2bo8bo2bo8bo2b
o8bo2bo8bo2bo8bo2bo8bo2bo8bo2bo8bo2bo$10b3o9b3o9b3o9b3o9b3o9b3o9b3o9b
3o9b3o9b3o9b3o$11b2o10b2o10b2o10b2o10b2o10b2o10b2o10b2o10b2o10b2o10b2o
$4b2obob2o5b2obob2o5b2obob2o5b2obob2o5b2obob2o5b2obob2o5b2obob2o5b2obo
b2o5b2obob2o5b2obob2o5b2obob2o$2b2obob4o3b2obob4o3b2obob4o3b2obob4o3b
2obob4o3b2obob4o3b2obob4o3b2obob4o3b2obob4o3b2obob4o3b2obob4o$2bo2bob
3o4bo2bob3o4bo2bob3o4bo2bob3o4bo2bob3o4bo2bob3o4bo2bob3o4bo2bob3o4bo2b
ob3o4bo2bob3o4bo2bob3o2$3b2o10b2o10b2o10b2o10b2o10b2o10b2o10b2o10b2o
10b2o10b2o!
I've found completions to some waves:

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x = 113, y = 28, rule = B3/S23
8bo95bo$7b3ob2o87b2ob3o$6b2o3bob2o83b2obo3b2o$5b2o2bo4b5o75b5o4bo2b2o$
6bo5bobobob2ob2o12bo8bo7bo7bo7bo8bo12b2ob2obobobo5bo$5b2o6bo3bo3bob2o
9b3o6b3o5b3o5b3o5b3o6b3o9b2obo3bo3bo6b2o$3b2obob2o9bo4b5o4b5o4b5o3b5o
3b5o3b5o4b5o4b5o4bo9b2obob2o$4bobo2b2o7bo3bobobob2o2b2o3b2o2b2o3b2ob2o
3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2o2b2o3b2o2b2obobobo3bo7b2o2bobo$b2obo2bo2bo12bo3bobo
2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bobo2bo2bobo2bo2bobo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bobo3bo12bo2bo2bob
2o$b2obo5b2o20bobobo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo2bobobo20b2o
5bob2o$bobo22bo2b2obobo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo2bobob
2o2bo22bobo$2ob2o21b2o4bo6bobo5bobo5bobo5bobo5bobo6bo4b2o21b2ob2o$26b
3o5b2o3bob2o3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2obo3b2o5b3o$25b2o11b2obo2bo2bobo2b
o2bobo2bo2bobo2bo2bob2o11b2o$43bobo5bobo5bobo5bobo2$9b3o30b2ob2o3b2ob
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o3b3o6b3o10b5o2bo$7bo3bobob2ob2o5bo3bo4bo3bo2b2o3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2ob2o
3b2o2bo3bo4bo3bo5b2ob2obobo3bo$7bo6bo3bob2o2bo5bo2bo5bobob3obobob3obob
ob3obobob3obobo5bo2bo5bo2b2obo3bo6bo$9bo6bo4bo2bo5bo2bo5bobo2bo2bobo2b
o2bobo2bo2bobo2bo2bobo5bo2bo5bo2bo4bo6bo$6bobo6bo3bobob2ob3ob2obob3obo
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obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob2obobob3o7b3obob2o
$4bobobo3bo5b2o4bo2bo3bobo3bobobo5bobo5bobo5bobo5bobobo3bobo3bo2bo4b2o
5bo3bobobo$3b2obo10bo3bobo2b2o3bobo2bo2bobo5bobo5bobo5bobo5bobo2bo2bob
o3b2o2bobo3bo10bob2o$2bo3bo5b2o6bo9b2ob2o4bo4bo7bo7bo7bo4bo4b2ob2o9bo
6b2o5bo3bo$17b2o20bob2o3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2obo20b2o$2b2ob2o23b2ob
2o3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2ob2o23b2ob2o!

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x = 142, y = 28, rule = B3/S23
3$17bo5bo87bo5bo$9bo6b3o3b3o85b3o3b3o$8b3o4b2obo3bob2o83b2obo3bob2o5b
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o2bob3o3bo6bo$9b3ob9obob2o3b2o2bo2bo2bo53bo2bo2bo2b2o3b2obob9obo3bo$9b
3obo4b5o4b2o11bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo11b2o4b5o4bobo3bo$9b2o2b2o
7b8o3b3o4bo4b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o4bo4b3o3b8o7b2o5bo$13b2obo
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5b3o2bobo6bob2o2bobo$15bo13b2o2b4o8bo2bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bo
bo2bo8b4o2b2o13bo$34b2o2b2ob2o5bobo2bo3bo2bobo2bo3bo2bobo2bo3bo2bobo5b
2ob2o2b2o$33bob2o2bob2o5bobo2bo3bo2bobo2bo3bo2bobo2bo3bo2bobo5b2obo2b
2obo$16bo13b2ob2o3bobobo49bobobo3b2ob2o13bo$15b3o7bo4bo2b2o12b5obo3bob
5obo3bob5obo3bob5o12b2o2bo4bo7b3o$15bob2o5b3o3bo3bo2bo7b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o
3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o7bo2bo3bo3b3o5b2obo$16b3o4b2o2bo2b2o13bo5bob2ob2obo3bo
b2ob2obo3bob2ob2obo5bo13b2o2bo2b2o4b3o$16b2o4bo11b3o9b2o39b2o9b3o11bo
4b2o$20bo3b8o2b3o15bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo15b3o2b8o3bo$19b2o3bo6bo2b2o16bobo
bobo5bobobobo5bobobobo16b2o2bo6bo3b2o$27bobo25bo11bo11bo25bobo$27bo2bo
24b3o7b3o9b3o24bo2bo2$53b2obo9bob2o8bob2o!

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x = 215, y = 26, rule = B3/S23
2$28bo4b2o4bo4b2o4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4b
o4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4b2o4bo4b2o4bo$27b3ob2o2b2ob3ob2o2b2ob3ob2ob2ob3ob2ob
2ob3ob2ob2ob3ob2ob2ob3ob2ob2ob3ob2ob2ob3ob2ob2ob3ob2ob2ob3ob2ob2ob3ob
2ob2ob3ob2ob2ob3ob2o2b2ob3ob2o2b2ob3o$8bo17b4o8b3o8b3o7b3o7b3o7b3o7b3o
7b3o7b3o7b3o7b3o7b3o7b3o7b3o8b3o8b4o17bo$7b3ob2o12b2o2b2obo2bob2ob2obo
2bobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3b
obobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobo2bob2ob2obo2bob2o2b2o12b2ob3o$
6b2o3bob2o11bo19bo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2b
obo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bo19bo
11b2obo3b2o$5b2o2bo4b5o6b2o22bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7b
obo7bobo7bobo7bobo22b2o6b5o4bo2b2o$6bo5bobobob2o3b2obobo5bo11b2obobob
2ob2obobob2ob2obobob2ob2obobob2ob2obobob2ob2obobob2ob2obobob2ob2obobob
2ob2obobob2ob2obobob2ob2obobob2ob2obobob2o11bo5bobob2o3b2obobobo5bo$5b
2o6bo3bobo2bobobob2o3b3o13bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo
7bobo7bobo7bobo13b3o3b2obobobo2bobo3bo6b2o$3b2obob2o9bob2obobo5b3ob2o
5b3o9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9b3o5b2ob3o5bobob2obo9b2obob2o$4b
obo2b2o8bobobo2bobo2b2o3bobo3bo4bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo
5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo4bo3bobo3b2o2bobo2bobobo8b2o2bobo$b2o
bo2bo2bo4b3obobob2obo2bobo2bobob2obo4bo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bob
o3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bo4bob2ob
obo2bobo2bob2obobob3o4bo2bo2bob2o$b2obo5b2o2bo2bobobobo2bo4bobo4bob2o
5b3ob3o3b3ob3o3b3ob3o3b3ob3o3b3ob3o3b3ob3o3b3ob3o3b3ob3o3b3ob3o3b3ob3o
3b3ob3o3b3ob3o5b2obo4bobo4bo2bobobobo2bo2b2o5bob2o$bobo9bo3bobobo11bo
2b2o3bob3obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob3obo3b2o2bo
11bobobo3bo9bobo$2ob2o5b4o5bo5b2o6bob3ob3obobobo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo
3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bobobob3ob3obo6b2o5bo5b
4o5b2ob2o$12bobo6b2o12b2o5bo5bo4bobobo5bobobo5bobobo5bobobo5bobobo5bob
obo5bobobo5bobobo5bobobo5bobobo5bobobo4bo5bo5b2o12b2o6bobo$41bob2o8bo
3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo8b2obo$
50bo2b2ob2o5b2ob2o5b2ob2o5b2ob2o5b2ob2o5b2ob2o5b2ob2o5b2ob2o5b2ob2o5b
2ob2o5b2ob2o2bo$49b3o2bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo
3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo2b3o$49bob2o6b3o7b3o7b3o7b3o7b3o
7b3o7b3o7b3o7b3o7b3o6b2obo$50b3o5b2ob2o5b2ob2o5b2ob2o5b2ob2o5b2ob2o5b
2ob2o5b2ob2o5b2ob2o5b2ob2o5b2ob2o5b3o$50b2o6bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo
3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo6b2o$57b2o2bo5b2o2bo5b2o2bo5b2o2bo5b
2o2bo5b2o2bo5b2o2bo5b2o2bo5b2o2bo5b2o2bo$57b3o7b3o7b3o7b3o7b3o7b3o7b3o
7b3o7b3o7b3o!

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x = 173, y = 26, rule = B3/S23
$29bo4b2o4bo4b2o4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4b2o4bo4b
2o4bo$28b3ob2o2b2ob3ob2o2b2ob3ob2ob2ob3ob2ob2ob3ob2ob2ob3ob2ob2ob3ob2o
b2ob3ob2ob2ob3ob2ob2ob3ob2o2b2ob3ob2o2b2ob3o$9bo17b4o8b3o8b3o7b3o7b3o
7b3o7b3o7b3o7b3o7b3o8b3o8b4o17bo$8b3ob2o12b2o2b2obo2bob2ob2obo2bobo3bo
bobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobo2bob
2ob2obo2bob2o2b2o12b2ob3o$7b2o3bob2o11bo19bo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo
2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bo19bo11b2obo3b2o$
6b2o2bo4b5o6b2o22bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo22b2o6b5o4bo2b
2o$7bo5bobobob2o3b2obobo5bo11b2obobob2ob2obobob2ob2obobob2ob2obobob2ob
2obobob2ob2obobob2ob2obobob2ob2obobob2o11bo5bobob2o3b2obobobo5bo$6b2o
6bo3bobo2bobobob2o3b3o13bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo13b3o3b
2obobobo2bobo3bo6b2o$4b2obob2o9bob2obobo5b3ob2o5b3o9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo
9bo9b3o5b2ob3o5bobob2obo9b2obob2o$5bobo2b2o8bobobo2bobo2b2o3bobo3bo4bo
5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo4bo3bobo3b2o2bobo2bobobo
8b2o2bobo$2b2obo2bo2bo4b3obobob2obo2bobo2bobob2obo4bo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo
3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bo4bob2obobo2bobo2bob2obob
ob3o4bo2bo2bob2o$2b2obo5b2o2bo2bobobobo2bo4bobo4bob2o5b3ob3o3b3ob3o3b
3ob3o3b3ob3o3b3ob3o3b3ob3o3b3ob3o3b3ob3o5b2obo4bobo4bo2bobobobo2bo2b2o
5bob2o$2bobo9bo3bobobo11bo2b2o3bob3obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob3obo3b2o2bo11bobobo3bo9bo
bo$b2ob2o5b4o5bo5b2o6bob3ob3obobobo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3b
o5bo3bo5bobobob3ob3obo6b2o5bo5b4o5b2ob2o$13bobo6b2o12b2o5bo5bo4bobobo
5bobobo5bobobo5bobobo5bobobo5bobobo5bobobo4bo5bo5b2o12b2o6bobo$42bob2o
8bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo8b2obo$54b2ob2o5b2ob2o5b2ob
2o5b2ob2o5b2ob2o5b2ob2o5b2ob2o2$55bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo$
55bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo$57bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo$54bobo7bob
o7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo$54bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo
$55bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo$56bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo!

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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by amling » March 7th, 2025, 7:14 pm

HartmutHolzwart wrote:
March 6th, 2025, 6:34 pm
I know you wrote in 2023 that you won't spend time on completing any of the waves you found. but this one I would really like to see completed:

(snip)
That one is now solved (and posted on the spaceship thread).

Mostly I didn't want to because there are so very, very many and it's a little tedious to set up all the searches. If you have some more strong candidates, either in terms of ease of solution or desire of solution, feel free to promote them to my attention.

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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by HartmutHolzwart » March 8th, 2025, 9:17 am

Well, of the 4c/8 waves there are just two left unsolved now:

The multi-block-puffer-engine

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x = 168, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
6$2bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4b
o4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo$3b2ob3ob2ob2ob3ob2ob2ob3ob2ob2ob3ob2ob
2ob3ob2ob2ob3ob2ob2ob3ob2ob2ob3ob2ob2ob3ob2ob2ob3ob2ob2ob3ob2ob2ob3ob
2ob2ob3ob2ob2ob3ob2ob2ob3ob2ob2ob3ob2o$6b3o7b3o7b3o7b3o7b3o7b3o7b3o7b
3o7b3o7b3o7b3o7b3o7b3o7b3o7b3o7b3o$3bobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bo
bobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo
3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobo$3bo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo
2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo
2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bo$6bobo
7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo
7bobo$4bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo
5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo$5b2ob2o5b2ob2o5b2ob2o5b2ob2o5b2ob2o
5b2ob2o5b2ob2o5b2ob2o5b2ob2o5b2ob2o5b2ob2o5b2ob2o5b2ob2o5b2ob2o5b2ob2o
5b2ob2o$3b2obobob2ob2obobob2ob2obobob2ob2obobob2ob2obobob2ob2obobob2ob
2obobob2ob2obobob2ob2obobob2ob2obobob2ob2obobob2ob2obobob2ob2obobob2ob
2obobob2ob2obobob2ob2obobob2o$4bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bob
obobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3b
obobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo$2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$4bobobobo3b
obobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo
3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo$2bobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobo$2b3obobob5obobob5obobob5obobob5obobob5obobob5obobob
5obobob5obobob5obobob5obobob5obobob5obobob5obobob5obobob5obobob3o$3b2o
bobob2ob2obobob2ob2obobob2ob2obobob2ob2obobob2ob2obobob2ob2obobob2ob2o
bobob2ob2obobob2ob2obobob2ob2obobob2ob2obobob2ob2obobob2ob2obobob2ob2o
bobob2ob2obobob2o$3bo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bob
o2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bob
o2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bo$3b3o3b3ob3o3b3ob3o3b3ob3o3b3ob
3o3b3ob3o3b3ob3o3b3ob3o3b3ob3o3b3ob3o3b3ob3o3b3ob3o3b3ob3o3b3ob3o3b3ob
3o3b3ob3o3b3o$4bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3b
o5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo4$4b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o
3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b
2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o$4b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b
2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o
3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o!
and this somewhat related one:

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x = 164, y = 43, rule = B3/S23
7$2bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4b
o4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo$2b2ob2ob2ob3ob2ob2ob3ob2ob2ob3ob2ob2ob
3ob2ob2ob3ob2ob2ob3ob2ob2ob3ob2ob2ob3ob2ob2ob3ob2ob2ob3ob2ob2ob3ob2ob
2ob3ob2ob2ob3ob2ob2ob3ob2ob2ob3ob2ob2ob2o$2b2o7b3o7b3o7b3o7b3o7b3o7b3o
7b3o7b3o7b3o7b3o7b3o7b3o7b3o7b3o7b3o7b2o$4bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3b
obobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo
3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo$3bo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo
2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo
2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bo$
3bo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7b
obo7bobo7bo$5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo
3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo$3b2o5b2ob2o5b2ob2o5b2ob2o5b2ob
2o5b2ob2o5b2ob2o5b2ob2o5b2ob2o5b2ob2o5b2ob2o5b2ob2o5b2ob2o5b2ob2o5b2ob
2o5b2ob2o5b2o$3bob2ob2obobob2ob2obobob2ob2obobob2ob2obobob2ob2obobob2o
b2obobob2ob2obobob2ob2obobob2ob2obobob2ob2obobob2ob2obobob2ob2obobob2o
b2obobob2ob2obobob2ob2obobob2ob2obo$3bobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3b
obobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo
3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobo$3bobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$3bobo
3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobo
bo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobo
$3bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobo$3bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$3bobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$3bo
b2o3bo3bo3b2obobob2o3bo3bo3b2obobob2o3bo3bo3b2obobob2o3bo3bo3b2obobob
2o3bo3bo3b2obobob2o3bo3bo3b2obobob2o3bo3bo3b2obobob2o3bo3bo3b2obo$3bob
2o11b2obobob2o11b2obobob2o11b2obobob2o11b2obobob2o11b2obobob2o11b2obob
ob2o11b2obobob2o11b2obo$8b3o3b3o11b3o3b3o11b3o3b3o11b3o3b3o11b3o3b3o
11b3o3b3o11b3o3b3o11b3o3b3o$3bobo2bo7bo2bobobobo2bo7bo2bobobobo2bo7bo
2bobobobo2bo7bo2bobobobo2bo7bo2bobobobo2bo7bo2bobobobo2bo7bo2bobobobo
2bo7bo2bobo$3b3o2bobo3bobo2b3ob3o2bobo3bobo2b3ob3o2bobo3bobo2b3ob3o2bo
bo3bobo2b3ob3o2bobo3bobo2b3ob3o2bobo3bobo2b3ob3o2bobo3bobo2b3ob3o2bobo
3bobo2b3o$3bo17bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo17bo!

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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by amling » March 9th, 2025, 2:28 pm

Here is a front corner for ... something:

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x = 143, y = 191, rule = B3/S23
5bo11bo7bo11bo7bo11bo7bo11bo7bo11bo7bo11bo7bo11bo$4b3o9b3o5b3o9b3o5b3o
9b3o5b3o9b3o5b3o9b3o5b3o9b3o5b3o9b3o$4bo2bo7bo2bo5bo2bo7bo2bo5bo2bo7bo
2bo5bo2bo7bo2bo5bo2bo7bo2bo5bo2bo7bo2bo5bo2bo7bo2bo$5bo2bo5bo2bo7bo2bo
5bo2bo7bo2bo5bo2bo7bo2bo5bo2bo7bo2bo5bo2bo7bo2bo5bo2bo7bo2bo5bo2bo$4bo
bobo5bobobo5bobobo5bobobo5bobobo5bobobo5bobobo5bobobo5bobobo5bobobo5bo
bobo5bobobo5bobobo5bobobo$3b2obob2o3b2obob2o3b2obob2o3b2obob2o3b2obob
2o3b2obob2o3b2obob2o3b2obob2o3b2obob2o3b2obob2o3b2obob2o3b2obob2o3b2ob
ob2o3b2obob2o$6bobob3obobo9bobob3obobo9bobob3obobo9bobob3obobo9bobob3o
bobo9bobob3obobo9bobob3obobo$3b2obobobobobobob2o3b2obobobobobobob2o3b
2obobobobobobob2o3b2obobobobobobob2o3b2obobobobobobob2o3b2obobobobobob
ob2o3b2obobobobobobob2o$obo3bobobobobobo3bobo3bobobobobobo3bobo3bobobo
bobobo3bobo3bobobobobobo3bobo3bobobobobobo3bobo3bobobobobobo3bobo3bobo
bobobobo3bobo$ob3obobobobobobob3ob3obobobobobobob3ob3obobobobobobob3ob
3obobobobobobob3ob3obobobobobobob3ob3obobobobobobob3ob3obobobobobobob
3obo$3bo2bobobobobobo2bo3bo2bobobobobobo2bo3bo2bobobobobobo2bo3bo2bobo
bobobobo2bo3bo2bobobobobobo2bo3bo2bobobobobobo2bo3bo2bobobobobobo2bo$
5b2obobobobob2o7b2obobobobob2o7b2obobobobob2o7b2obobobobob2o7b2obobobo
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It could be the front of some sort of mixed stripes 2c/5 greyship but there is a lot of work left to do to catch all those radiating seams.

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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by Timelord Missionary » March 9th, 2025, 4:45 pm

HartmutHolzwart wrote:
February 14th, 2025, 1:17 pm
Maybe you could now give Venetian blinds agar ships another try. Ther are well known results for back parts at p4, but I struggle otherwise.
Hey I was wondering... would it be feasible to search for horizontal ("against the grain") Venetian blinds agar ships going at 2c/5? I know that speed is a pain to search for stuff in but could it profit any?
Helloshe, I like pentadecathlons and small-period motifs.
I may not be very skilled in search programs, but I have many ideas.
Soli Deo Gloria!

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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by amling » March 9th, 2025, 5:34 pm

Timelord Missionary wrote:
March 9th, 2025, 4:45 pm
HartmutHolzwart wrote:
February 14th, 2025, 1:17 pm
Maybe you could now give Venetian blinds agar ships another try. Ther are well known results for back parts at p4, but I struggle otherwise.
Hey I was wondering... would it be feasible to search for horizontal ("against the grain") Venetian blinds agar ships going at 2c/5? I know that speed is a pain to search for stuff in but could it profit any?
It is true that they are compatible in the sense that the agar can be read 2c/5 perpendicular. You'd presumably either be looking at guessing a common side joint to look for side parts or trying to find a front corner, any front corner, to get into an edge search and then hope to spot something interesting in partials. My impression of venetian blinds as an agar is that it is extremely finicky and as you say 2c/5 searches are very hard so I am unlikely to put any real computer time on this.

EDIT: I did give the latter (guess side joints) a quick spin, starting with a 2x2 block of wildcards in all generations and searching f2b. Longest result to 16GB:

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x = 121, y = 15, rule = LifeHistory
F23.F23.F23.F.5ABA14B.F.21B.F$F.5A16B.F.21B.F.6A15B.F.21B.F.6A15B.F$F
.5A16B.F.5BA15B.F.5A16B.F.5BA6BA8B.F.5A7BA8B.F$F.5BA15B.F.5A7BA8B.F.
11B3A7B.F.5A6BABA7B.F.6BA3B2AB2A6B.F$F.11B3A7B.F.6A5B3A7B.F.5BA5BABA
7B.F.7A3B2AB2A6B.F.5B2A3B2AB2A6B.F$F.5ABA3BA3BA6B.F.6BA3BA2BA7B.F.5AB
2A2BA2BA7B.F.7BA2BA2BA7B.F.5A8BA7B.F$F.7A3B2A9B.F.6B2ABAB2A8B.F.4AB2A
2BAB2A8B.F.6B4ABABA7B.F.4AB2AB2ABABA7B.F$F.7BABABABA7B.F.5A2B3ABA9B.F
.4BA4BABABA7B.F.5ABA4BAB2A6B.F.4BABA4BAB2A6B.F$F.6B2A2BA2BA7B.F.4AB2A
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23.F!
To my eyes it does not look particularly healthy by itself and what we would really be hoping for is a long, long partial with some obvious joints somewhere in the middle.

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