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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by confocaloid » March 10th, 2025, 9:53 pm

The suggested notation is problematic.

The component by itself is p2, so "p(2n+1)" looks incorrect in that sense, 2n+1 cannot be equal to 2 for an integer n.

When the component is used in some construction, "p(2n+1)" is inadequate for a different reason: it unnecessarily restricts the use of the device to only periodic glider streams.

The component doesn't have to be used with a strictly periodic glider stream, but on the other hand it introduces some restrictions on the glider stream. Those restrictions cannot be captured merely by saying/writing that it's p(something), and have to be explained in more details (preferably in plain text, rather than by some obscure notation).
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P(2n+1) 180 degree reflector: [...]
Nice! This implies a P(2n+1) CC 90-degree reflector (unless this is already known): [...]
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Bullet51 » March 11th, 2025, 11:47 am

Is this kind of sparky eater known?

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x = 14, y = 13, rule = LifeHistory
2.2A3.2A$2.A.A2.A.A$4.A4.A$4A.4A.2A$A2.A.A2.B.A2.A$3.ABAB2A.A.2A$.3B
2ABAB.A$.2AB.4B2A$A.AB3.2BD$2.A5.D2$9.2A$9.2A!
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Tawal » March 11th, 2025, 12:46 pm

Bullet51 wrote:
March 11th, 2025, 11:47 am
Is this kind of sparky eater known?

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This specific one I don't know.
But this kind of spark is named Thumb and it is already known.
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by dvgrn » March 11th, 2025, 1:48 pm

Tawal wrote:
March 11th, 2025, 12:46 pm
This specific one I don't know.
But this kind of spark is named Thumb and it is already known.
That Thumb link does in fact show that same eater -- well, a different stator variant, with lower population by one cell -- in the last embedded LifeViewer, described as an "eater3 variant".

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by get_Snacked » March 12th, 2025, 11:48 am

ONE CELL OFF

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x = 14, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
4bo$3bobo6bo$3bobo5bobo$2b2ob2o4b2o$o6bo$2ob2ob2o$bobo6b3o$bo2b4o2bo$
2b2o3bo3bo$4b3o$4bo$2bobo$2b2o!
EDIT: could Sokwe (or anyone else) use a search program to find a periodic support?

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Tawal » March 12th, 2025, 1:18 pm

get_Snacked wrote:
March 12th, 2025, 11:48 am
ONE CELL OFF

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EDIT: could Sokwe (or anyone else) use a search program to find a periodic support?
Already known, take a look on that :

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x = 111, y = 264, rule = LifeHistory
26.A$25.A.A$25.A.A$24.2A.2A$23.A6.A$.E18.E2.2A.2A.2A$.2E17.2E5.A.A$E
18.E3.4A2.A$23.A3.2A$24.3A$26.A$26.A.A$27.2A27$26.A21.2E6.A29.A$18.2E
5.A.A19.E2.E4.A.A20.E6.A.A$17.E2.E4.A.A19.E2.E4.A.A19.E.E5.A.A$18.2E
4.2A.2A19.2E4.2A.2A19.2E4.2A.2A$23.A6.A22.A6.A22.A6.A$23.2A.2A.2A22.
2A.2A.2A22.2A.2A.2A$27.A.A27.A.A27.A.A$23.4A2.A23.4A2.A23.4A2.A$23.A
3.2A24.A3.2A24.A3.2A$24.3A27.3A27.3A$14.3C9.A17.3C9.A17.3C9.A$16.C9.A
.A17.C9.A.A17.C9.A.A$15.C11.2A16.C11.2A16.C11.2A28$26.A$17.2E6.A.A$
17.E.E5.A.A$18.E5.2A.2A$23.A6.A$23.2A.2A.2A$27.A.A$23.4A2.A$23.A3.2A$
24.3A$14.3C9.A$16.C9.A.A$15.C11.2A28$26.A$16.2E7.A.A$16.E.E6.A.A$17.E
6.2A.2A$23.A6.A$23.2A.2A.2A$27.A.A$23.4A2.A$23.A3.2A$24.3A$14.3C9.A$
16.C9.A.A$15.C11.2A34$33.B$22.A8.5B$22.3A6.6B$25.A4.2B3C2B$24.2A4.4BC
2B$24.4B.4B3CB$26.11B$17.A7.12B$17.3A5.12B$20.A4.11B$19.2A5.7B7.2A$
19.5B2.8B6.A$21.4B.9B2.BA.A$8.2A9.17B.B2A$9.A7.21B$9.A.AB4.22B$10.2AB
.24B$12.2B2A22B2A$12.BA.A19B2.BA.A$13.2A5.14B6.A$21.10B9.2A$22.8B$22.
7B$23.6B$24.2EB5.A$19.2A2.E2BE4.A.A$19.2A2.E2BE4.A.A$24.2E4.2A.2A$29.
A6.A$29.2A.2A.2A$33.A.A$29.4A2.A$29.A3.2A$30.3A$32.A$32.A.A$33.2A7$
11.3C$13.C$12.C31$26.C79.C$25.C79.C$25.3C77.3C3$14.2A38.2A38.2A$14.2A
38.2A38.2A$26.A39.A39.A$25.A.A37.A.A37.A.A$13.A11.A.A25.A11.A.A25.A
11.A.A$12.A.A9.2A.2A23.A.A9.2A.2A23.A.A9.2A.2A$13.A9.A6.A22.A9.A6.A
22.A9.A6.A$10.3A7.D2.2A.2A.2A19.3A7.D2.2A.2A.2A19.3A7.D2.2A.2A.2A$10.
A9.2D5.A.A20.A9.2D5.A.A20.A9.2D5.A.A$19.D3.4A2.A29.D3.4A2.A29.D3.4A2.
A$23.A3.2A34.A3.2A34.A3.2A$24.3A37.3A37.3A$26.A39.A39.A$26.A.A37.A.A
37.A.A$27.2C38.2A38.2A$11.2C38.2C$12.2C38.2C$11.C39.C!
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by get_Snacked » March 12th, 2025, 1:21 pm

Tawal wrote:
March 12th, 2025, 1:18 pm
Already known
known from where? i know the pre-pond to G is known and the G to pre-pond is known, but i don't think anyone has ever combined these before.

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Tawal » March 12th, 2025, 1:35 pm

get_Snacked wrote:
March 12th, 2025, 1:21 pm
Tawal wrote:
March 12th, 2025, 1:18 pm
Already known
known from where? i know the pre-pond to G is known and the G to pre-pond is known, but i don't think anyone has ever combined these before.
It is known at least from here : viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4993&p=190725&hilit=almost#p190725
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Zodduniverse » March 13th, 2025, 11:54 am

P138 TL hassler

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x = 66, y = 34, rule = B3/S23
53b3o$52bo2bo$27b4o21bo2bo$26bo4bo20b2o$26bo3bobo$27bo3bobo$33bo$33bo
28b3o$30bo2bo28bo2bo$31b2o32bo$45b3o15b3o$45bo$45bo2bo$10b3o33b3o$10b
o2bo$10bo2bo9bo11bo$12b2o8bobo10b2o$22bobo10bo21b2o$23b3o2b2o25bo2bo$
24b6o25bo2bo$b3o20b2o2bo26b3o$o2bo21bo2b2o$o25b3o$3o15b3o6bo$20bo12b2o
$17bo2bo12b2o$17b3o2$32b3o$32b2obo2b2o$7b2o25b2o2b2o$7bo2bo23b2o$7bo2b
o$8b3o!

Forward conduit

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x = 305, y = 308, rule = LifeHistory
270$88.2A3.2A$88.A5.A$85.2A.A5.A.2A$84.A.A.2A3.2A.A.A$83.A2.B2.BA.AB2.
B2.A$83.7AB.B7A$87.3B.B.3B$85.3AB.3B.B3A$84.A.BA3BA3BAB.A$67.2A16.A3.
BABAB3.2A$68.A13.3A4.BABAB$68.A.AB4.B4.A7.2BA2B.B$69.2AB2.4B.B.2A7.B.
B.5B$70.13B4.13B$71.10B5.14B$71.11B4.12B2A$64.2A6.10B.15B2A$65.A7.27B
$65.A.AB4.22B2.B$66.2AB.3B3.20B$68.28B$68.19B.8B$69.16B3.B2A3B.B2A$68.
17B4.2A3B.BA.A$66.18B6.3B5.A$64.20B4.7B3.2A$64.2BCB.14B5.2A.B.2A$63.3B
CBC4B.9B6.A3.A$64.2B3C4B2.7B4.3A5.3A$63.5BC4B3.5B5.A9.A$63.9B5.3B$63.
2B10.7B$63.B11.2A.B.2A$76.A3.A$73.3A5.3A$73.A9.A!
are these new?

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x = 22, y = 7, rule = B36/S23Investigator
12.A$11.A.A$10.2A.2A$.E9.A.A6.E$E11.A8.E$EDA16.ADE$.DA16.AD!

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by confocaloid » March 13th, 2025, 1:12 pm

Regarding the p138 traffic light hassler, the autogenerated Catagolue object page xp138_y6719ezo44cz111yac997zy3s40ozy4111wggokk8zy64ep9vpy8422szwggcswooya6988a521zw1ppy7131zzyge917zyqc44ozy9799cya111zyjo04szyj111 currently lacks any evidence of it being already known. (There are no comments. There is no glider synthesis.) Hence that oscillator might be new.

Regarding the F135 / HF135H conduit, forum search for the usual descriptors doesn't seem to return any relevant results (although there are very many irrelevant matches from Sandbox roleplay threads with multistate RLEs matching 'F135'). Hence again, the Herschel conduit might be new.
Zodduniverse wrote:
March 13th, 2025, 11:54 am
P138 TL hassler

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x = 66, y = 34, rule = B3/S23
53b3o$52bo2bo$27b4o21bo2bo$26bo4bo20b2o$26bo3bobo$27bo3bobo$33bo$33bo
28b3o$30bo2bo28bo2bo$31b2o32bo$45b3o15b3o$45bo$45bo2bo$10b3o33b3o$10b
o2bo$10bo2bo9bo11bo$12b2o8bobo10b2o$22bobo10bo21b2o$23b3o2b2o25bo2bo$
24b6o25bo2bo$b3o20b2o2bo26b3o$o2bo21bo2b2o$o25b3o$3o15b3o6bo$20bo12b2o
$17bo2bo12b2o$17b3o2$32b3o$32b2obo2b2o$7b2o25b2o2b2o$7bo2bo23b2o$7bo2b
o$8b3o!

Forward conduit

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x = 305, y = 308, rule = LifeHistory
270$88.2A3.2A$88.A5.A$85.2A.A5.A.2A$84.A.A.2A3.2A.A.A$83.A2.B2.BA.AB2.
B2.A$83.7AB.B7A$87.3B.B.3B$85.3AB.3B.B3A$84.A.BA3BA3BAB.A$67.2A16.A3.
BABAB3.2A$68.A13.3A4.BABAB$68.A.AB4.B4.A7.2BA2B.B$69.2AB2.4B.B.2A7.B.
B.5B$70.13B4.13B$71.10B5.14B$71.11B4.12B2A$64.2A6.10B.15B2A$65.A7.27B
$65.A.AB4.22B2.B$66.2AB.3B3.20B$68.28B$68.19B.8B$69.16B3.B2A3B.B2A$68.
17B4.2A3B.BA.A$66.18B6.3B5.A$64.20B4.7B3.2A$64.2BCB.14B5.2A.B.2A$63.3B
CBC4B.9B6.A3.A$64.2B3C4B2.7B4.3A5.3A$63.5BC4B3.5B5.A9.A$63.9B5.3B$63.
2B10.7B$63.B11.2A.B.2A$76.A3.A$73.3A5.3A$73.A9.A!
are these new?
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by EvinZL » March 13th, 2025, 1:27 pm

Zodduniverse wrote:
March 13th, 2025, 11:54 am
Forward conduit

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x = 305, y = 308, rule = LifeHistory
270$88.2A3.2A$88.A5.A$85.2A.A5.A.2A$84.A.A.2A3.2A.A.A$83.A2.B2.BA.AB2.
B2.A$83.7AB.B7A$87.3B.B.3B$85.3AB.3B.B3A$84.A.BA3BA3BAB.A$67.2A16.A3.
BABAB3.2A$68.A13.3A4.BABAB$68.A.AB4.B4.A7.2BA2B.B$69.2AB2.4B.B.2A7.B.
B.5B$70.13B4.13B$71.10B5.14B$71.11B4.12B2A$64.2A6.10B.15B2A$65.A7.27B
$65.A.AB4.22B2.B$66.2AB.3B3.20B$68.28B$68.19B.8B$69.16B3.B2A3B.B2A$68.
17B4.2A3B.BA.A$66.18B6.3B5.A$64.20B4.7B3.2A$64.2BCB.14B5.2A.B.2A$63.3B
CBC4B.9B6.A3.A$64.2B3C4B2.7B4.3A5.3A$63.5BC4B3.5B5.A9.A$63.9B5.3B$63.
2B10.7B$63.B11.2A.B.2A$76.A3.A$73.3A5.3A$73.A9.A!
This is F135. I don't remember seeing a similar conduit. Reduction:

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x = 56, y = 38, rule = LifeHistory
31.2A3.2A$31.A5.A$28.2A.A5.A.2A$27.A.A.2A3.2A.A.A$26.A2.B2.BA.AB2.B2.
A$26.7AB.B7A$30.3B.B.3B$28.3AB.3B.B3A$27.A.BA3BA3BAB.A$28.A3.BABAB3.2A
$16.2A7.3A4.BABAB$15.B2AB5.A7.2BA2B.B$16.3B3.B.2A7.B.B.5B3.2B2.2B$17.
2B.6B4.22BD$16.8B5.23BDBD$15.10B4.12B2A9B3DB$7.2A6.10B.15B2A11BD$8.A7.
37B$8.A.AB4.22B2.B2.3B.B$9.2AB.3B3.20B$11.28B$11.19B.8B$12.16B3.B2A3B
.B2A$11.17B4.2A3B.BA.A$9.18B6.3B5.A$7.20B4.7B3.2A$7.2BC16B5.2A.B.2A$6.
3BCBC4B.9B6.A3.A$7.2B3C4B2.7B4.3A5.3A$6.5BC4B3.5B5.A9.A$5.10B5.3B$4.4B
10.7B$4.3B11.2A.B.2A$2.4B13.A3.A$2.2C12.3A5.3A$3.C12.A9.A$3C$C!

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Timelord Missionary » March 19th, 2025, 6:01 pm

Guys, I found that the L224 can be chained into a block keeper that emits a glider if the block isn't there. It seems like a thing that is known.

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x = 116, y = 50, rule = LifeHistory
4$8.4B47.4B15.4B$9.4B47.4B15.4B$10.4B16.2A4B25.4B15.7B$11.4B14.B2A5B25.
4B14.8B$12.4B13.8B26.4B13.8B$13.4B7.2A.A9B27.4B7.2A.A9B$14.4B6.A.2A5B
3DB28.4B6.A.2A2.3B3DB$15.4B10.5BD3B28.4B11.4BD3B$16.4B10.2B3D4B28.4B10.
2B3D4B$17.4B10.9B28.4B10.9B$18.4B9.10B28.4B9.10B$19.4B8.11B28.4B8.11B
$20.4B8.11B28.4B8.11B$21.4B7.12B28.4B7.12B$22.4B5.6B.7B6.2A20.4B5.6B.
7B6.2A$23.4B4.7B.6B6.A22.4B4.7B.6B6.A$24.14B2.6B2.BA.A23.14B2.6B2.BA.
A$25.22B.B2A25.22B.B2A$25.24B27.24B$24.25B26.25B$24.24B27.24B$23.26B25.
26B$23.27B24.27B$23.28B23.28B$23.29B22.29B$24.29B22.29B$24.30B21.30B$
25.25B.4B21.25B.4B$25.24B3.4B20.24B3.4B$26.22B5.4B20.22B5.4B$28.19B7.
4B21.19B7.4B$28.19B8.4B20.19B8.4B$28.2BC16B9.3B20.2BC16B9.3B$27.3BCBC
15B.B7.2B19.3BCBC15B.B7.2B$28.2B3C16B2A7.B20.2B3C16B2A7.B$27.5BC4B.11B
2A27.5BC4B.11B2A$26.10B4.10B27.10B4.10B$25.4B.4B6.10B26.4B.4B6.10B$25.
3B3.3B6.8B28.3B3.3B6.8B$23.4B4.4B6.6B27.4B4.4B6.6B$23.2A6.B2AB4.5B30.
2A6.B2AB4.5B$24.A7.2A5.2A34.A7.2A5.2A$21.3A16.A31.3A16.A$21.A15.3A32.
A15.3A$37.A50.A!
EDIT: If you were wondering, I originally thought L224 was from 2003 because I wasn't paying attention when I searched for the first instance of it in the forums. I was a bit confused as to why they would have jubjub reflectors back then...
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by confocaloid » March 19th, 2025, 8:16 pm

Timelord Missionary wrote:
March 19th, 2025, 6:01 pm
[...] It seems like it should have been discovered a long time ago, given that L224 was discovered in 2003. [...]
That doesn't seem correct, can you provide a source to support that claim?
As far as I know, L224 / HL224H was discovered by Kazyan in 2022: viewtopic.php?p=150801#p150801
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Timelord Missionary » March 19th, 2025, 8:25 pm

confocaloid wrote:
March 19th, 2025, 8:16 pm
Timelord Missionary wrote:
March 19th, 2025, 6:01 pm
[...] It seems like it should have been discovered a long time ago, given that L224 was discovered in 2003. [...]
That doesn't seem correct, can you provide a source to support that claim?
As far as I know, L224 / HL224H was discovered by Kazyan in 2022: viewtopic.php?p=150801#p150801
You're correct. I think I must've misconstrued something when I looked for "L224" in the forums. I'll correct it.
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Supersuthiastic » March 20th, 2025, 8:10 pm

3 gliders!:

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x = 28, y = 18, rule = B3/S23
2bo$obo$b2o3$17b2o5b2o$18b2o3b2o$15bo2bobobobo2bo$15b3ob2ob2ob3o$16bob
obobobobo$17b3o3b3o2$17b3o3b3o$16bobobobobobo$15b3ob2ob2ob3o$15bo2bobo
bobo2bo$18b2o3b2o$17b2o5b2o!
1g destruction of spiderlike oscillator:

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x = 23, y = 18, rule = B3/S23
bo$2bo$3o3$12b2o5b2o$13b2o3b2o$10bo2bobobobo2bo$10b3ob2ob2ob3o$11bobob
obobobo$12b3o3b3o2$12b3o3b3o$11bobobobobobo$10b3ob2ob2ob3o$10bo2bobobo
bo2bo$13b2o3b2o$12b2o5b2o!

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by confocaloid » March 20th, 2025, 10:20 pm

Supersuthiastic wrote:
March 20th, 2025, 8:10 pm
3 gliders!: [...]
1g destruction of spiderlike oscillator: [...]
It looks like the "spiderlike oscillator" (???) is the pulsar.

It is safe to assume that all ways to hit a pulsar by a glider are known, in the sense that people already looked at every such collision.
More generally, ways to hit a common stationary object (still-life, oscillator) by a glider are likely to be already known.

One-glider destructions of small objects are very easy to find, the majority of small objects does have a one-glider destruction, so they don't need to be posted at all, there's nothing to be discovered here.

What would be interesting is for example finding the smallest still-life (or all smallest still-lifes, if there are two or more examples) that cannot be cleanly destroyed by one or two gliders (that requires at least three gliders to remove).
Each of strict still-lives up to 22 bits can be removed by hitting it with either one glider or two gliders. Any counterexample is going to be at least 23 bits or probably larger.
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by dl-rs » March 21st, 2025, 10:09 am

I'm not sure if this stupid wave-like wick in B38/S23 has been discovered...

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x = 10, y = 334, rule = B38/S23
4b2o$2bo4bo$bo6bo$o8bo$2ob4ob2o3$2b2o2b2o$2b2o2b2o2$4b2o$3b4o$2b2o2b2o
$2bo4bo$4b2o$2bo4bo$2bo4bo2$2bo4bo$bo6bo$o8bo$2ob4ob2o3$2b2o2b2o$2b2o
2b2o2$4b2o$3b4o$2b2o2b2o$2bo4bo$4b2o$2bo4bo$2bo4bo2$2bo4bo$bo6bo$o8bo
$2ob4ob2o3$2b2o2b2o$2b2o2b2o2$4b2o$3b4o$2b2o2b2o$2bo4bo$4b2o$2bo4bo$2b
o4bo2$2bo4bo$bo6bo$o8bo$2ob4ob2o3$2b2o2b2o$2b2o2b2o2$4b2o$3b4o$2b2o2b
2o$2bo4bo$4b2o$2bo4bo$2bo4bo2$2bo4bo$bo6bo$o8bo$2ob4ob2o3$2b2o2b2o$2b
2o2b2o2$4b2o$3b4o$2b2o2b2o$2bo4bo$4b2o$2bo4bo$2bo4bo2$2bo4bo$bo6bo$o8b
o$2ob4ob2o3$2b2o2b2o$2b2o2b2o2$4b2o$3b4o$2b2o2b2o$2bo4bo$4b2o$2bo4bo$
2bo4bo2$2bo4bo$bo6bo$o8bo$2ob4ob2o3$2b2o2b2o$2b2o2b2o2$4b2o$3b4o$2b2o
2b2o$2bo4bo$4b2o$2bo4bo$2bo4bo2$2bo4bo$bo6bo$o8bo$2ob4ob2o3$2b2o2b2o$
2b2o2b2o2$4b2o$3b4o$2b2o2b2o$2bo4bo$4b2o$2bo4bo$2bo4bo2$2bo4bo$bo6bo$
o8bo$2ob4ob2o3$2b2o2b2o$2b2o2b2o2$4b2o$3b4o$2b2o2b2o$2bo4bo$4b2o$2bo4b
o$2bo4bo2$2bo4bo$bo6bo$o8bo$2ob4ob2o3$2b2o2b2o$2b2o2b2o2$4b2o$3b4o$2b
2o2b2o$2bo4bo$4b2o$2bo4bo$2bo4bo2$2bo4bo$bo6bo$o8bo$2ob4ob2o3$2b2o2b2o
$2b2o2b2o2$4b2o$3b4o$2b2o2b2o$2bo4bo$4b2o$2bo4bo$2bo4bo2$2bo4bo$bo6bo
$o8bo$2ob4ob2o3$2b2o2b2o$2b2o2b2o2$4b2o$3b4o$2b2o2b2o$2bo4bo$4b2o$2bo
4bo$2bo4bo2$2bo4bo$bo6bo$o8bo$2ob4ob2o3$2b2o2b2o$2b2o2b2o2$4b2o$3b4o$
2b2o2b2o$2bo4bo$4b2o$2bo4bo$2bo4bo2$2bo4bo$bo6bo$o8bo$2ob4ob2o3$2b2o2b
2o$2b2o2b2o2$4b2o$3b4o$2b2o2b2o$2bo4bo$4b2o$2bo4bo$2bo4bo2$2bo4bo$bo6b
o$o8bo$2ob4ob2o3$2b2o2b2o$2b2o2b2o2$4b2o$3b4o$2b2o2b2o$2bo4bo$4b2o$2b
o4bo$2bo4bo2$2bo4bo$bo6bo$o8bo$2ob4ob2o3$2b2o2b2o$2b2o2b2o2$4b2o$3b4o
$2b2o2b2o$2bo4bo$4b2o$2bo4bo$2bo4bo2$2bo4bo$bo6bo$o8bo$2ob4ob2o3$2b2o
2b2o$2b2o2b2o2$4b2o$3b4o$2b2o2b2o$2bo4bo$4b2o$2bo4bo$2bo4bo2$2bo4bo$b
o6bo$o8bo$2ob4ob2o3$2b2o2b2o$2b2o2b2o2$4b2o$3b4o$2b2o2b2o$2bo4bo$4b2o
$2bo4bo$2bo4bo2$2bo4bo$bo6bo$o8bo$2ob4ob2o3$2b2o2b2o$2b2o2b2o2$4b2o$3b
4o$2b2o2b2o$2bo4bo$4b2o$2bo4bo$4b2o$3b4o$2b2o2b2o2$b2o4b2o2$2o6b2o$bo
b4obo$2obo2bob2o$o3b2o3bo$3b4o$o2bo2bo2bo!
Last edited by dl-rs on March 21st, 2025, 10:23 am, edited 1 time in total.
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x = 23, y = 11, rule = B2n3-jknr4ky5-eqry6ik7c8/S234cktwz5ai6-ci7c
2bo2b3o2bo7bo2bo$b2ob5ob2o6b2ob2o$2bo2b3o2bo7bo2bo4$10b2o$b3o5bobo$2o
b2o4b3o$b3o5bobo$10b2o!

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by confocaloid » March 21st, 2025, 10:21 am

It is a wick, rather than agar.
It is known, see Bulldozer.

Also, despite the specified 'B38/S23' it works in CGoL (B3/S23), otherwise it would be offtopic on this board.
dl-rs wrote:
March 21st, 2025, 10:09 am
I'm not sure if this stupid wave-like agar in B38/S23 has been discovered... [...]
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by jayden678910 » March 21st, 2025, 4:00 pm

Found strange reaction:

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 x = 23, y = 21, rule = B3/S23Super
2$12.A$11.A.A$12.A2$10.5A$9.A4.A$8.A2.A$5.A2.A.2A$4.A.A.A5.A$5.A2.A4.
A.A$8.2A2.A2.A$13.2A$17.A$16.3A$17.A!
This other one creates a LWSS:

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 x = 18, y = 26, rule = B3/S23Super
8.A$7.A.A$8.A2$6.5A$5.A4.A$4.A2.A$.A2.A.2A$A.A.A5.A$.A2.A4.A.A$4.2A2.
A2.A$9.2A$13.A$12.3A$13.A8$14.2A$14.A$15.3A$17.A!
This one makes two gliders:

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 x = 23, y = 26, rule = B3/S23Super
21.2A$5.2A.A12.2A$5.A.2A2$6.5A$5.A4.A$4.A2.A$.A2.A.2A$A.A.A5.A$.A2.A4.
A.A$4.2A2.A2.A$9.2A$13.A$12.3A$13.A8$15.2A$15.A$16.3A$18.A!

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x = 28, y = 8, rule = B3/S23Super
2A.A2.A$2A.4A2$2A.2A8.2A8.2A$.A.A.A7.A.A7.A.A$.A23.A$2A3.A.A7.A.A7.A.
A$6.2A8.2A8.2A!

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by hth3 » March 22nd, 2025, 5:27 am

Infinite OT "pusher":

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x = 39, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
2b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o$2b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3$bo
4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo$2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o$obo2bobo2bobo2bo
bo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo!
Infinite pre-pulsar "replicator" "seed":

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x = 46, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
2b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o$2b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o3$bo
5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo$b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o$obo3bobo3bobo3b
obo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo!
Another one:

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x = 99, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
7bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo$6bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo
3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo$6b2o4b2o
4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o2$6b2o4b2o4b2o
4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o$6b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o
4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o3$bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5b
o5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo$b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b
2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o$obo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bo
bo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo!
Superstring and accidental mirrored tables:

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x = 46, y = 8, rule = B3/S23
2b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o$2b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4$bo
5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo$b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o$obo3bobo3bobo3b
obo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo!
Superstring AND pre-pulsar:

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x = 190, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
obo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3b
obo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3b
obo3bobo3bobo3bobo$b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o
4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b
2o4b2o$bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo
5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo2$b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o
4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b
2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o$b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o
4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b
2o4b2o4b2o2$2bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo
5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo$2b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b
2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o
4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o$bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3b
obo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3b
obo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo!
Again:

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x = 194, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
obo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3b
obo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3b
obo3bobo3bobo3bobo$b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o
4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b
2o4b2o$bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo
5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo4$5b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b
2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o
4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o$5b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o
4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b
2o4b2o4b2o4b2o2$6bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5b
o5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo$6b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b
2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o
4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o$5bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3b
obo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3b
obo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo!
Double superstring:

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x = 193, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
obo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3b
obo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3b
obo3bobo3bobo3bobo$b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o
4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b
2o4b2o$bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo
5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo4$4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b
2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o
4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o$4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o
4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b
2o4b2o4b2o4b2o2$5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5b
o5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo$5b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b
2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o
4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o$4bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3b
obo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3b
obo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo!
Double superstring in one direction:

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x = 194, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
obo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3b
obo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3b
obo3bobo3bobo3bobo$b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o
4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b
2o4b2o$bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo
5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo3$5b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b
2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o
4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o$5b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o
4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b
2o4b2o4b2o4b2o2$6bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5b
o5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo$6b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b
2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o
4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o$5bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3b
obo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3b
obo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo3bobo!
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by hth3 » March 23rd, 2025, 3:59 am

Some 3c/10 pi climber reactions:

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x = 61, y = 295, rule = B3/S23
34b2o23b2o$34b2o23b2o3$2o23b2o$2o23b2o13$34b2o23b2o$34b2o23b2o3$2o23b
2o$2o23b2o13$34b2o23b2o$34b2o23b2o3$2o23b2o$2o23b2o13$34b2o23b2o$34b2o
23b2o3$2o23b2o$2o23b2o13$34b2o23b2o$34b2o23b2o3$2o23b2o$2o23b2o13$34b
2o23b2o$34b2o23b2o3$2o23b2o$2o23b2o13$34b2o23b2o$34b2o23b2o3$2o23b2o$
2o23b2o13$34b2o23b2o$34b2o23b2o3$2o23b2o$2o23b2o13$34b2o23b2o$34b2o23b
2o3$2o23b2o$2o23b2o13$34b2o23b2o$34b2o23b2o3$2o23b2o$2o23b2o13$34b2o23b
2o$34b2o23b2o3$2o23b2o$2o23b2o13$34b2o23b2o$34b2o23b2o3$2o23b2o$2o23b
2o13$34b2o23b2o$34b2o23b2o3$2o23b2o$2o23b2o13$34b2o23b2o$34b2o23b2o3$
2o23b2o$2o23b2o13$34b2o23b2o$34b2o23b2o3$2o23b2o$2o23b2o4$47bo$46b3o$
45bo3bo$43bo7bo$43bo7bo$39b2o2bo3bo3bo2b2o$38b2o6bobo6b2o$12b3o24bo5b
o3bo5bo$13bo26bob4o3b4obo$34b2o10bobo10b2o$7b3o7b3o14b2o6bo9bo6b2o$6b
obo3b3o3bobo21bo9bo$6bo13bo22bobo3bobo$2o4b2ob2o5b2ob2o4b2o17bo5bo$2o
6bo3bobo3bo6b2o$8b3o5b3o3$3b2o17b2o$3b2o17b2o13b2o5bo5bo5b2o$4b3o13b3o
21b3ob3o$5b2o13b2o21bo7bo$4bo4b2o5b2o4bo19bo9bo$5b3o3bo3bo3b3o20bo3bo
bo3bo$9b4ob4o25b2o5b2o$7bo4bobo4bo$9bo2bobo2bo$6bo4bo3bo4bo$6b2ob2o5b
2ob2o$8bo9bo3$9b2o5b2o$9b2o5b2o!

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x = 64, y = 292, rule = B3/S23
2o23b2o$2o23b2o10b2o23b2o$37b2o23b2o16$2o23b2o$2o23b2o10b2o23b2o$37b2o
23b2o16$2o23b2o$2o23b2o10b2o23b2o$37b2o23b2o16$2o23b2o$2o23b2o10b2o23b
2o$37b2o23b2o16$2o23b2o$2o23b2o10b2o23b2o$37b2o23b2o16$2o23b2o$2o23b2o
10b2o23b2o$37b2o23b2o16$2o23b2o$2o23b2o10b2o23b2o$37b2o23b2o16$2o23b2o
$2o23b2o10b2o23b2o$37b2o23b2o16$2o23b2o$2o23b2o10b2o23b2o$37b2o23b2o16$
2o23b2o$2o23b2o10b2o23b2o$37b2o23b2o16$2o23b2o$2o23b2o10b2o23b2o$37b2o
23b2o16$2o23b2o$2o23b2o10b2o23b2o$37b2o23b2o16$2o23b2o$2o23b2o10b2o23b
2o$37b2o23b2o16$2o23b2o$2o23b2o10b2o23b2o$37b2o23b2o16$2o23b2o$2o23b2o
10b2o23b2o$37b2o23b2o10$12b3o$13bo35b3o$50bo$7b3o7b3o$6bobo3b3o3bobo23b
3o7b3o$6bo13bo22bobo3b3o3bobo$2o4b2ob2o5b2ob2o4b2o16bo13bo$2o6bo3bobo
3bo6b2o10b2o4b2ob2o5b2ob2o4b2o$8b3o5b3o18b2o6bo3bobo3bo6b2o$45b3o5b3o
2$3b2o17b2o$3b2o17b2o16b2o17b2o$4b3o13b3o17b2o17b2o$5b2o13b2o19b3o13b
3o$4bo4b2o5b2o4bo19b2o13b2o$5b3o3bo3bo3b3o19bo4b2o5b2o4bo$9b4ob4o24b3o
3bo3bo3b3o$7bo4bobo4bo26b4ob4o$9bo2bobo2bo26bo4bobo4bo$6bo4bo3bo4bo25b
o2bobo2bo$6b2ob2o5b2ob2o22bo4bo3bo4bo$8bo9bo24b2ob2o5b2ob2o$45bo9bo2$
9b2o5b2o$9b2o5b2o28b2o5b2o$46b2o5b2o!

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x = 61, y = 293, rule = B3/S23
2o23b2o$2o23b2o$34b2o23b2o$34b2o23b2o15$2o23b2o$2o23b2o$34b2o23b2o$34b
2o23b2o15$2o23b2o$2o23b2o$34b2o23b2o$34b2o23b2o15$2o23b2o$2o23b2o$34b
2o23b2o$34b2o23b2o15$2o23b2o$2o23b2o$34b2o23b2o$34b2o23b2o15$2o23b2o$
2o23b2o$34b2o23b2o$34b2o23b2o15$2o23b2o$2o23b2o$34b2o23b2o$34b2o23b2o
15$2o23b2o$2o23b2o$34b2o23b2o$34b2o23b2o15$2o23b2o$2o23b2o$34b2o23b2o
$34b2o23b2o15$2o23b2o$2o23b2o$34b2o23b2o$34b2o23b2o15$2o23b2o$2o23b2o
$34b2o23b2o$34b2o23b2o15$2o23b2o$2o23b2o$34b2o23b2o$34b2o23b2o15$2o23b
2o$2o23b2o$34b2o23b2o$34b2o23b2o15$2o23b2o$2o23b2o$34b2o23b2o$34b2o23b
2o15$2o23b2o$2o23b2o$34b2o23b2o$34b2o23b2o9$12b3o$13bo$46b3o$7b3o7b3o
27bo$6bobo3b3o3bobo$6bo13bo20b3o7b3o$2o4b2ob2o5b2ob2o4b2o13bobo3b3o3b
obo$2o6bo3bobo3bo6b2o13bo13bo$8b3o5b3o15b2o4b2ob2o5b2ob2o4b2o$34b2o6b
o3bobo3bo6b2o$42b3o5b3o$3b2o17b2o$3b2o17b2o$4b3o13b3o14b2o17b2o$5b2o13b
2o15b2o17b2o$4bo4b2o5b2o4bo15b3o13b3o$5b3o3bo3bo3b3o17b2o13b2o$9b4ob4o
20bo4b2o5b2o4bo$7bo4bobo4bo19b3o3bo3bo3b3o$9bo2bobo2bo25b4ob4o$6bo4bo
3bo4bo20bo4bobo4bo$6b2ob2o5b2ob2o22bo2bobo2bo$8bo9bo21bo4bo3bo4bo$40b
2ob2o5b2ob2o$42bo9bo$9b2o5b2o$9b2o5b2o$43b2o5b2o$43b2o5b2o!

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x = 62, y = 293, rule = B3/S23
2o23b2o$2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o15$2o23b2o$2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o$35b
2o23b2o15$2o23b2o$2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o15$2o23b2o$2o23b2o$35b
2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o15$2o23b2o$2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o15$2o23b2o$
2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o15$2o23b2o$2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o
15$2o23b2o$2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o15$2o23b2o$2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o
$35b2o23b2o15$2o23b2o$2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o15$2o23b2o$2o23b2o
$35b2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o15$2o23b2o$2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o15$2o23b
2o$2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o15$2o23b2o$2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o$35b2o23b
2o15$2o23b2o$2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o9$12b3o$13bo34bo$47b3o$7b3o
7b3o27b3o$6bobo3b3o3bobo22bo9bo$6bo13bo21b3o3bo3b3o$2o4b2ob2o5b2ob2o4b
2o14bob2o3bo3b2obo$2o6bo3bobo3bo6b2o13b2ob2o3bo3b2ob2o$8b3o5b3o16b2o4b
4o7b4o4b2o$35b2o9bo3bo9b2o$43b2o7b2o$3b2o17b2o20bo7bo$3b2o17b2o$4b3o13b
3o15b2o17b2o$5b2o13b2o$4bo4b2o5b2o4bo15bo2bo13bo2bo$5b3o3bo3bo3b3o19b
o13bo$9b4ob4o21bo2bo2bo5bo2bo2bo$7bo4bobo4bo20b2obo3bobo3bob2o$9bo2bo
bo2bo24b2obobobobob2o$6bo4bo3bo4bo22b2o2bobo2b2o$6b2ob2o5b2ob2o25b2ob
2o$8bo9bo22b4obo3bob4o$41b5o5b5o$42b3o7b3o$9b2o5b2o$9b2o5b2o$44b2o5b2o
$44b2o5b2o!

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x = 62, y = 294, rule = B3/S23
2o23b2o$2o23b2o2$35b2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o14$2o23b2o$2o23b2o2$35b2o23b2o$
35b2o23b2o14$2o23b2o$2o23b2o2$35b2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o14$2o23b2o$2o23b2o
2$35b2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o14$2o23b2o$2o23b2o2$35b2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o14$2o
23b2o$2o23b2o2$35b2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o14$2o23b2o$2o23b2o2$35b2o23b2o$35b
2o23b2o14$2o23b2o$2o23b2o2$35b2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o14$2o23b2o$2o23b2o2$35b
2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o14$2o23b2o$2o23b2o2$35b2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o14$2o23b2o
$2o23b2o2$35b2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o14$2o23b2o$2o23b2o2$35b2o23b2o$35b2o23b
2o14$2o23b2o$2o23b2o2$35b2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o14$2o23b2o$2o23b2o2$35b2o23b
2o$35b2o23b2o14$2o23b2o$2o23b2o2$35b2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o8$12b3o$13bo$48b
o$7b3o7b3o27b3o$6bobo3b3o3bobo26b3o$6bo13bo22bo9bo$2o4b2ob2o5b2ob2o4b
2o15b3o3bo3b3o$2o6bo3bobo3bo6b2o14bob2o3bo3b2obo$8b3o5b3o21b2ob2o3bo3b
2ob2o$35b2o4b4o7b4o4b2o$35b2o9bo3bo9b2o$3b2o17b2o19b2o7b2o$3b2o17b2o20b
o7bo$4b3o13b3o$5b2o13b2o16b2o17b2o$4bo4b2o5b2o4bo$5b3o3bo3bo3b3o16bo2b
o13bo2bo$9b4ob4o23bo13bo$7bo4bobo4bo19bo2bo2bo5bo2bo2bo$9bo2bobo2bo22b
2obo3bobo3bob2o$6bo4bo3bo4bo21b2obobobobob2o$6b2ob2o5b2ob2o22b2o2bobo
2b2o$8bo9bo27b2ob2o$41b4obo3bob4o$41b5o5b5o$9b2o5b2o24b3o7b3o$9b2o5b2o
2$44b2o5b2o$44b2o5b2o!

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x = 62, y = 297, rule = B3/S23
2o23b2o$2o23b2o5$35b2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o11$2o23b2o$2o23b2o5$35b2o23b2o$
35b2o23b2o11$2o23b2o$2o23b2o5$35b2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o11$2o23b2o$2o23b2o
5$35b2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o11$2o23b2o$2o23b2o5$35b2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o11$2o
23b2o$2o23b2o5$35b2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o11$2o23b2o$2o23b2o5$35b2o23b2o$35b
2o23b2o11$2o23b2o$2o23b2o5$35b2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o11$2o23b2o$2o23b2o5$35b
2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o11$2o23b2o$2o23b2o5$35b2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o11$2o23b2o
$2o23b2o5$35b2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o11$2o23b2o$2o23b2o5$35b2o23b2o$35b2o23b
2o11$2o23b2o$2o23b2o5$35b2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o11$2o23b2o$2o23b2o5$35b2o23b
2o$35b2o23b2o11$2o23b2o$2o23b2o5$35b2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o5$12b3o$13bo2$7b
3o7b3o$6bobo3b3o3bobo$6bo13bo27bo$2o4b2ob2o5b2ob2o4b2o20b3o$2o6bo3bob
o3bo6b2o20b3o$8b3o5b3o24bo9bo$42b3o3bo3b3o$41bob2o3bo3b2obo$3b2o17b2o
16b2ob2o3bo3b2ob2o$3b2o17b2o11b2o4b4o7b4o4b2o$4b3o13b3o12b2o9bo3bo9b2o
$5b2o13b2o21b2o7b2o$4bo4b2o5b2o4bo21bo7bo$5b3o3bo3bo3b3o$9b4ob4o20b2o
17b2o$7bo4bobo4bo$9bo2bobo2bo20bo2bo13bo2bo$6bo4bo3bo4bo20bo13bo$6b2o
b2o5b2ob2o18bo2bo2bo5bo2bo2bo$8bo9bo21b2obo3bobo3bob2o$42b2obobobobob
2o$43b2o2bobo2b2o$9b2o5b2o28b2ob2o$9b2o5b2o23b4obo3bob4o$41b5o5b5o$42b
3o7b3o3$44b2o5b2o$44b2o5b2o!

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x = 62, y = 295, rule = B3/S23
2o23b2o$2o23b2o3$35b2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o13$2o23b2o$2o23b2o3$35b2o23b2o$
35b2o23b2o13$2o23b2o$2o23b2o3$35b2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o13$2o23b2o$2o23b2o
3$35b2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o13$2o23b2o$2o23b2o3$35b2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o13$2o
23b2o$2o23b2o3$35b2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o13$2o23b2o$2o23b2o3$35b2o23b2o$35b
2o23b2o13$2o23b2o$2o23b2o3$35b2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o13$2o23b2o$2o23b2o3$35b
2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o13$2o23b2o$2o23b2o3$35b2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o13$2o23b2o
$2o23b2o3$35b2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o13$2o23b2o$2o23b2o3$35b2o23b2o$35b2o23b
2o13$2o23b2o$2o23b2o3$35b2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o13$2o23b2o$2o23b2o3$35b2o23b
2o$35b2o23b2o13$2o23b2o$2o23b2o3$35b2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o7$12b3o$13bo2$7b
3o7b3o28bo$6bobo3b3o3bobo26b3o$6bo13bo26b3o$2o4b2ob2o5b2ob2o4b2o16bo9b
o$2o6bo3bobo3bo6b2o15b3o3bo3b3o$8b3o5b3o22bob2o3bo3b2obo$40b2ob2o3bo3b
2ob2o$35b2o4b4o7b4o4b2o$3b2o17b2o11b2o9bo3bo9b2o$3b2o17b2o19b2o7b2o$4b
3o13b3o21bo7bo$5b2o13b2o$4bo4b2o5b2o4bo15b2o17b2o$5b3o3bo3bo3b3o$9b4o
b4o20bo2bo13bo2bo$7bo4bobo4bo21bo13bo$9bo2bobo2bo21bo2bo2bo5bo2bo2bo$
6bo4bo3bo4bo19b2obo3bobo3bob2o$6b2ob2o5b2ob2o21b2obobobobob2o$8bo9bo24b
2o2bobo2b2o$46b2ob2o$41b4obo3bob4o$9b2o5b2o23b5o5b5o$9b2o5b2o24b3o7b3o
3$44b2o5b2o$44b2o5b2o!
(can this be made clean?)

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x = 139, y = 302, rule = B3/S23
2o23b2o$2o23b2o3$35b2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o2$77b2o23b2o$77b2o23b2o3$112b2o
23b2o$112b2o23b2o6$2o23b2o$2o23b2o3$35b2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o2$77b2o23b2o
$77b2o23b2o3$112b2o23b2o$112b2o23b2o6$2o23b2o$2o23b2o3$35b2o23b2o$35b
2o23b2o2$77b2o23b2o$77b2o23b2o3$112b2o23b2o$112b2o23b2o6$2o23b2o$2o23b
2o3$35b2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o2$77b2o23b2o$77b2o23b2o3$112b2o23b2o$112b2o23b
2o6$2o23b2o$2o23b2o3$35b2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o2$77b2o23b2o$77b2o23b2o3$112b
2o23b2o$112b2o23b2o6$2o23b2o$2o23b2o3$35b2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o2$77b2o23b
2o$77b2o23b2o3$112b2o23b2o$112b2o23b2o6$2o23b2o$2o23b2o3$35b2o23b2o$35b
2o23b2o2$77b2o23b2o$77b2o23b2o3$112b2o23b2o$112b2o23b2o6$2o23b2o$2o23b
2o3$35b2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o2$77b2o23b2o$77b2o23b2o3$112b2o23b2o$112b2o23b
2o6$2o23b2o$2o23b2o3$35b2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o2$77b2o23b2o$77b2o23b2o3$112b
2o23b2o$112b2o23b2o6$2o23b2o$2o23b2o3$35b2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o2$77b2o23b
2o$77b2o23b2o3$112b2o23b2o$112b2o23b2o6$2o23b2o$2o23b2o3$35b2o23b2o$35b
2o23b2o2$77b2o23b2o$77b2o23b2o3$112b2o23b2o$112b2o23b2o6$2o23b2o$2o23b
2o3$35b2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o2$77b2o23b2o$77b2o23b2o3$112b2o23b2o$112b2o23b
2o6$2o23b2o$2o23b2o3$35b2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o2$77b2o23b2o$77b2o23b2o3$112b
2o23b2o$112b2o23b2o6$2o23b2o$2o23b2o3$35b2o23b2o$35b2o23b2o2$77b2o23b
2o$77b2o23b2o3$112b2o23b2o$112b2o23b2o6$2o23b2o$2o23b2o3$35b2o23b2o$35b
2o23b2o2$77b2o23b2o$77b2o23b2o3$112b2o23b2o$12b3o97b2o23b2o$13bo2$7b3o
7b3o28bo$6bobo3b3o3bobo26b3o$6bo13bo26b3o$2o4b2ob2o5b2ob2o4b2o16bo9bo
$2o6bo3bobo3bo6b2o15b3o3bo3b3o34b3o$8b3o5b3o22bob2o3bo3b2obo34bo$40b2o
b2o3bo3b2ob2o$35b2o4b4o7b4o4b2o22b3o7b3o28bo$3b2o17b2o11b2o9bo3bo9b2o
21bobo3b3o3bobo26b3o$3b2o17b2o19b2o7b2o29bo13bo26b3o$4b3o13b3o21bo7bo
24b2o4b2ob2o5b2ob2o4b2o16bo9bo$5b2o13b2o55b2o6bo3bobo3bo6b2o15b3o3bo3b
3o$4bo4b2o5b2o4bo15b2o17b2o26b3o5b3o22bob2o3bo3b2obo$5b3o3bo3bo3b3o95b
2ob2o3bo3b2ob2o$9b4ob4o20bo2bo13bo2bo53b2o4b4o7b4o4b2o$7bo4bobo4bo21b
o13bo24b2o17b2o11b2o9bo3bo9b2o$9bo2bobo2bo21bo2bo2bo5bo2bo2bo22b2o17b
2o19b2o7b2o$6bo4bo3bo4bo19b2obo3bobo3bob2o24b3o13b3o21bo7bo$6b2ob2o5b
2ob2o21b2obobobobob2o27b2o13b2o$8bo9bo24b2o2bobo2b2o27bo4b2o5b2o4bo15b
2o17b2o$46b2ob2o31b3o3bo3bo3b3o$41b4obo3bob4o30b4ob4o20bo2bo13bo2bo$9b
2o5b2o23b5o5b5o28bo4bobo4bo21bo13bo$9b2o5b2o24b3o7b3o31bo2bobo2bo21bo
2bo2bo5bo2bo2bo$83bo4bo3bo4bo19b2obo3bobo3bob2o$83b2ob2o5b2ob2o21b2ob
obobobob2o$44b2o5b2o32bo9bo24b2o2bobo2b2o$44b2o5b2o70b2ob2o$118b4obo3b
ob4o$86b2o5b2o23b5o5b5o$86b2o5b2o24b3o7b3o3$121b2o5b2o$121b2o5b2o!
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by dvgrn » March 23rd, 2025, 8:46 am

hth3 wrote:
March 23rd, 2025, 3:59 am
Some 3c/10 pi climber reactions
... (can this be made clean?)
... (getting closer to a clean one!)
I think you might have accidentally lost sight of the goal here a little bit. (?)

Any of these reactions can be made "clean" by the definition you're using, just by moving the columns of pi climbers a little further apart.

The (very difficult) problem relating to completing a self-supporting 3c/10 pi-climber spaceship, would be to create an arrangement that produces an offset copy of the blocks that are being used up -- i.e., a reburnable fuse.

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Jormungant » March 23rd, 2025, 11:14 am

Indeed, the real challenge is to get useful gliders out, and hopefully preserve a block trail, which seems unlikely. The only thing I managed to do is to have defined a tag along that only require 1 extra block instead of two, and a way to substitute a block for a inbound glider instead. But even with this, we are at a deficit of object downstream of the reaction, not to mention that these hives cannot be used a block too.

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x = 239, y = 557, rule = LifeHistory
24$168.2A23.2A$168.2A23.2A3$133.2A23.2A$133.2A23.2A13$168.2A23.2A$
168.2A23.2A3$133.2A23.2A$133.2A23.2A13$168.2A23.2A$168.2A23.2A3$133.
2A23.2A$133.2A23.2A13$168.2A23.2A$168.2A23.2A3$25.2A23.2A81.2A23.2A$
25.2A23.2A81.2A23.2A13$168.2A23.2A$168.2A23.2A3$25.2A23.2A81.2A23.2A$
25.2A23.2A81.2A23.2A13$168.2A23.2A$168.2A23.2A3$25.2A23.2A81.2A23.2A$
25.2A23.2A81.2A23.2A13$168.2A23.2A$168.2A23.2A3$25.2A23.2A81.2A23.2A$
25.2A23.2A81.2A23.2A13$168.2A23.2A$168.2A23.2A3$25.2A23.2A81.2A23.2A$
25.2A23.2A81.2A23.2A13$168.2A23.2A$168.2A23.2A3$25.2A23.2A81.2A23.2A$
25.2A23.2A81.2A23.2A13$168.2A23.2A$168.2A23.2A3$25.2A23.2A81.2A23.2A$
25.2A23.2A81.2A23.2A13$168.2A23.2A$168.2A23.2A3$25.2A23.2A81.2A23.2A$
25.2A23.2A81.2A23.2A13$168.2A23.2A$168.2A23.2A3$25.2A23.2A81.2A23.2A$
25.2A23.2A81.2A23.2A13$168.2A23.2A$168.2A23.2A3$25.2A23.2A81.2A23.2A$
25.2A23.2A81.2A23.2A13$168.2A23.2A$168.2A23.2A3$25.2A23.2A81.2A23.2A$
25.2A23.2A81.2A23.2A13$168.2A23.2A$168.2A23.2A3$25.2A23.2A81.2A23.2A$
25.2A23.2A81.2A23.2A13$168.2A23.2A$168.2A23.2A3$25.2A23.2A81.2A23.2A$
25.2A23.2A81.2A23.2A13$168.2A23.2A$168.2A11.A11.2A$181.A$180.A.A$25.
2A23.2A81.2A23.2A16.A9.A$25.2A23.2A81.2A23.2A16.A9.A$145.3A26.4A.2A.
2A.4A$146.A26.2A4.A.A.A4.2A$172.A5.A2.A2.A5.A$173.2A2.3A3.3A2.2A$138.
2A.11A.2A21.A2.A3.A2.A$138.2A.2A.A.A.A.2A.2A21.A.A5.A.A$137.A4.A7.A4.
A22.A5.A$138.A3.A.2A.2A.A3.A15.3A3.A9.A3.3A$140.2A2.A3.A2.2A16.A4.2A.
A7.A.2A4.A$143.2A3.2A19.A.2A.A2.3A3.3A2.A.2A.A$136.A19.A14.A3.A4.A.A
4.A3.A$135.2A3.3A7.3A3.2A11.2A5.A3.A.A3.A5.2A$134.A4.2A.A7.A.2A4.A10.
A7.3A3.3A7.A$136.4A2.3A3.3A2.4A14.A19.A$134.A.2A2.4A.A.A.4A2.2A.A$
134.2A5.3A.A.A.3A5.2A$25.2A23.2A82.A7.3A3.3A7.A$25.2A23.2A91.A5.A3$
167.2A$167.2A5$169.A$168.3A$167.2A.2A$157.A.A8.3A6.A$157.2A10.A6.A3.A
$158.A18.A3.A$172.A3.3A2.A$171.A.A.A2.A.2A$25.2A23.2A127.A$25.2A23.2A
118.2A2.A4.A$173.A3.A$169.3A$169.A2.A$170.A4.2A$171.A.2A.A$172.A11$
25.2A23.2A$25.2A23.2A122.3A3$177.A$176.2A$176.A.2A$177.2A.2A$178.3A$
179.A$142.A.A$142.2A$143.A6$25.2A23.2A$25.2A23.2A3$176.A$175.A.A$175.
A.A$176.A11$25.2A23.2A$25.2A23.2A3$176.A$175.A.A$175.A.A$127.A.A46.A$
127.2A$128.A9$25.2A23.2A$25.2A23.2A3$176.A$175.A.A$175.A.A$176.A11$
25.2A23.2A$25.2A23.2A3$112.A.A61.A$112.2A61.A.A$113.A61.A.A$176.A11$
25.2A23.2A$25.2A23.2A17$25.2A23.2A$25.2A23.2A45.A.A$97.2A$98.A10$37.
3A$36.A3.A$35.A5.A$34.A3.A3.A$34.A7.A$25.2A7.A.A3.A.A7.2A$25.2A8.2A3.
2A8.2A4$28.2A17.2A21.A$28.2A17.2A20.A.A$68.2A.2A2$30.2A13.2A$29.A2.A
11.A2.A18.A7.A$30.A.A.2A5.2A.A.A14.2A2.A.A5.A.A2.2A$35.2A3.2A17.2A.A
2.A9.A2.A.2A$35.2A3.2A17.A2.2A13.2A2.A$32.3A7.3A14.A3.4A7.4A3.A$60.A
5.2A5.2A5.A$18.A9.A19.A9.A2.A2.3A.A3.A.3A2.A2.A.A$18.A9.A19.A9.A3.4A
9.4A3.2A$63.A.2A2.A.A2.2A.A5.A$34.2A5.2A21.A11.A$29.2A3.2A5.2A3.2A17.
4A3.4A$66.A7.A!
The only thing that might save this, is some glider + spark reaction that does something amazing like leaving a block and produce more gliders, but that's on the very unlikely side. One would need to try a lot of unlikely interactions, ex:

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x = 328, y = 555, rule = LifeHistory
29$249.2A23.2A$249.2A23.2A3$214.2A23.2A$214.2A23.2A12$158.2A23.2A$
158.2A23.2A64.2A23.2A$249.2A23.2A2$123.2A23.2A$123.2A23.2A64.2A23.2A$
214.2A23.2A12$158.2A23.2A$158.2A23.2A64.2A23.2A$249.2A23.2A2$123.2A
23.2A$123.2A23.2A64.2A23.2A$214.2A23.2A12$158.2A23.2A$158.2A23.2A64.
2A23.2A$28.2A23.2A194.2A23.2A$28.2A23.2A$123.2A23.2A$123.2A23.2A64.2A
23.2A$63.2A23.2A124.2A23.2A$63.2A23.2A11$158.2A23.2A$158.2A23.2A64.2A
23.2A$28.2A23.2A194.2A23.2A$28.2A23.2A$123.2A23.2A$123.2A23.2A64.2A
23.2A$63.2A23.2A124.2A23.2A$63.2A23.2A11$158.2A23.2A$158.2A23.2A64.2A
23.2A$28.2A23.2A194.2A23.2A$28.2A23.2A$123.2A23.2A$123.2A23.2A64.2A
23.2A$63.2A23.2A124.2A23.2A$63.2A23.2A11$158.2A23.2A$158.2A23.2A64.2A
23.2A$28.2A23.2A194.2A23.2A$28.2A23.2A$123.2A23.2A$123.2A23.2A64.2A
23.2A$63.2A23.2A124.2A23.2A$63.2A23.2A11$158.2A23.2A$158.2A23.2A64.2A
23.2A$28.2A23.2A194.2A23.2A$28.2A23.2A$123.2A23.2A$123.2A23.2A64.2A
23.2A$63.2A23.2A124.2A23.2A$63.2A23.2A11$158.2A23.2A$158.2A23.2A64.2A
23.2A$28.2A23.2A194.2A23.2A$28.2A23.2A$123.2A23.2A$123.2A23.2A64.2A
23.2A$63.2A23.2A124.2A23.2A$63.2A23.2A11$158.2A23.2A$158.2A23.2A64.2A
23.2A$28.2A23.2A194.2A23.2A$28.2A23.2A$123.2A23.2A$123.2A23.2A64.2A
23.2A$63.2A23.2A124.2A23.2A$63.2A23.2A11$158.2A23.2A$158.2A23.2A64.2A
23.2A$28.2A23.2A194.2A23.2A$28.2A23.2A$123.2A23.2A$123.2A23.2A64.2A
23.2A$63.2A23.2A124.2A23.2A$63.2A23.2A11$158.2A23.2A$158.2A23.2A64.2A
23.2A$28.2A23.2A194.2A23.2A$28.2A23.2A$123.2A23.2A$123.2A23.2A64.2A
23.2A$63.2A23.2A124.2A23.2A$63.2A23.2A11$158.2A23.2A$158.2A23.2A64.2A
23.2A$28.2A23.2A194.2A23.2A$28.2A23.2A$123.2A23.2A$123.2A23.2A64.2A
23.2A$63.2A23.2A124.2A23.2A$63.2A23.2A11$158.2A23.2A$158.2A23.2A64.2A
23.2A$28.2A23.2A194.2A23.2A$28.2A23.2A$123.2A23.2A$123.2A23.2A64.2A
23.2A$63.2A23.2A124.2A23.2A$63.2A23.2A11$158.2A23.2A$158.2A23.2A64.2A
10.3A10.2A$28.2A23.2A194.2A10.3A10.2A$28.2A10.3A10.2A205.B3AB$40.3B
80.2A23.2A77.A30.BA5BAB$40.ABA80.2A23.2A64.2A10.ABA10.2A16.3A5B3A$36.
B.A5BA.B16.2A11.A11.2A124.2A9.A3BA9.2A12.3A3BA5BA3B3A$35.2B3ABAB3A2B
15.2A10.BAB10.2A135.2AB2A23.A6BABABA6BA$33.3ABA7BAB3A25.ABA145.B2ABAB
2AB21.B2A4B2AB2A4B2AB$32.ABA4BABABA4BABA24.3B141.A2.2B2A3B2A2B2.A17.
4B2AB2AB2AB2A4B$32.7BABABA7B20.B2AB3AB2AB136.2A4B2A3B2A4B2A17.3BABABA
BABABA3B$33.4BAB5ABA4B19.AB2ABA3BAB2ABA134.A5B2ABAB2A5BA19.ABA2BABA2B
ABA$35.B2A2BABA2B2AB20.5ABA3BAB5A133.BA15BAB19.BABA5BABAB$36.3BA3BA3B
20.2B2A2BA5BA2B2A2B132.3B3A7B3A3B14.BABA3BA2BABA2BA3BABAB$30.2A2B.2A
2BA3BA2B2A.2B2A14.7BA3BA7B133.2BA2BABABABA2BA2B14.3BABABA9BABABA3B$
30.2A3BAB2A5B2ABA3B2A15.3B2ABA3BAB2A3B136.A2BA5BA2BA16.2B3ABA11BAB3A
2B$29.B2A19B2AB16.B2A7B2AB138.BAB2A3B2ABAB15.4A19B4A$29.25B16.AB4AB4A
BA133.2B2AB3A7B3AB2A2B9.3A23B3A$28.2A4B2A3B2AB2A3B2A4B2A10.2A2B.3ABA
3BAB3A.2B2A70.2A10.3A10.2A30.5B3A9B3A5B7.2A2BA21BA2B2A$28.A5B3A9B3A5B
A9.A2BA2BAB2A5B2ABA2BA2BA69.2A10.3A10.2A30.A3B3A11B3A3BA8.2AB2A19B2AB
2A$28.3A5B4A3B4A5B3A9.B2A19B2AB80.B3AB39.A3BA19BA3BA7.BA7B2A5B2A7BAB$
28.9B2A5B2A9B9.2A21B2A47.A30.BA5BAB36.A4BA19BA4BA11.4B2A5B2A4B$33.5BA
5BA5B13.2A4BABA9BABA4B2A33.2A10.ABA10.2A16.3A5B3A35.A3B2A19B2A3BA13.
13B$35.13B14.A2BA3BA5BABA5BA3BA2BA32.2A9.A3BA9.2A12.3A3BA5BA3B3A31.3A
B2A19B2AB3A10.2B.13B.2B$32.2B.13B.2B12.2A9BA3BA9B2A44.2AB2A23.A6BABAB
A6BA33.3A6B2A5B2A6B3A11.21B$31.21B11.BA6BA9BA6BAB42.B2ABAB2AB21.B2A4B
2AB2A4B2AB38.4B2A5B2A4B16.21B$31.21B16.4B2A5B2A4B43.A2.2B2A3B2A2B2.A
17.4B2AB2AB2AB2A4B40.13B13.2B3.21B$31.21B3.2B13.13B44.2A4B2A3B2A4B2A
17.3BABABABABABA3B38.2B.13B.2B9.2B2A3.19B$32.19B3.2A2B9.2B.13B.2B41.A
5B2ABAB2A5BA19.ABA2BABA2BABA39.21B8.2B2A3.19B$32.19B3.2A2B8.21B40.BA
15BAB19.BABA5BABAB39.21B7.6B.21B$31.21B.6B7.21B40.3B3A7B3A3B14.BABA3B
A2BABA2BA3BABAB34.21B7.6B2.19B$32.19B2.6B7.21B41.2BA2BABABABA2BA2B14.
3BABABA9BABABA3B34.19B6.31B$30.31B6.19B44.A2BA5BA2BA16.2B3ABA11BAB3A
2B34.19B4.8B3A23B2.B$26.B2.23B3A8B4.19B44.BAB2A3B2ABAB15.4A19B4A32.
21B3.34B.3B$25.3B.34B3.21B38.2B2AB3A7B3AB2A2B9.3A23B3A32.19B3.7BA5BA
27B$23.27BA5BA7B3.19B38.5B3A9B3A5B7.2A2BA21BA2B2A29.31BA5BA7BA21B$21.
29BA5BA31B36.A3B3A11B3A3BA8.2AB2A19B2AB2A26.B2.32BA5BA6BA2BA20B$20.
30BA5BA8BA23B2.B30.A3BA19BA3BA7.BA7B2A5B2A7BAB26.3B.22BA21BA23B$21.
20BA3BA20BA22B.3B28.A4BA19BA4BA11.4B2A5B2A4B29.27BA12B2AB2A10B2A15B$
23.17B2AB2A7B3A9B3A28B26.A3B2A19B2A3BA13.13B29.29B3A10B2AB2A7B2AB2A
12B$26.13BA2B2ABA51B24.3AB2A19B2AB3A10.2B.13B.2B25.42B.3BABA9BA4B2.6B
$27.6B2.5B2ABA5B3A3B.42B25.3A6B2A5B2A6B3A11.21B25.39B3.4B2A8B2A4B.2B.
4B$27.4B.2B.6B2ABA3BA6B3.39B31.4B2A5B2A4B16.21B27.36B4.B2AB2A3B2A8B.
4B.B$29.B.12B2A7BA2B4.36B35.13B13.2B3.21B30.32B4.11B2A12B$31.22B2AB4.
32B35.2B.13B.2B9.2B2A3.19B32.6B2.13B2.8B2.4B2ABA19B$31.18B3AB2A3B2.8B
2.13B2.6B35.21B8.2B2A3.19B32.4B.2B.13B.2B.12BA2BA18B$32.15BA3BAB2A11B
.2B.13B.2B.4B35.21B7.6B.21B33.B.4B.11B.4B.B.31B$32.14BA5B2A9B.B.21B.B
37.21B7.6B2.19B36.21B3.8B2AB2A8B.10B$31.16BA3B2A10B3.21B40.19B6.31B
34.21B2.10B2A10B.9B$32.20B.11B2.21B40.19B4.8B3A23B2.B31.19B4.21B.11B$
30.33B4.19B40.21B3.34B.3B30.19B4.21B.12B2.B$26.B2.34B4.19B41.19B3.7BA
5BA27B27.10B.10B2.22B.12B.3B$25.3B.35B2.21B38.31BA5BA7BA21B26.9B.9B2.
23B.18B$23.42B2.19B35.B2.32BA5BA6BA2BA20B23.11B.34B.20B$21.67B32.3B.
22BA21BA23B20.B2.12B.56B$20.69B2.B26.27BA12B2AB2A10B2A15B21.3B.12B.
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42B.3BABA9BA4B2.6B21.20B.39B3.8B$26.71B19.39B3.4B2A8B2A4B.2B.4B20.19B
.B.B.35B6.6B$27.6B2.63B20.36B4.B2AB2A3B2A8B.4B.B23.13B2.4B3.36B8.4B$
27.4B.2B.12BA49B24.32B4.11B2A12B27.11B2.4B3.16B.19B9.B$29.B.16BA10B.
36B27.6B2.13B2.8B2.4B2ABA19B30.8B3.2B5.14B4.17B$31.15BA9B4.32B30.4B.
2B.13B.2B.12BA2BA18B32.6B11.4B2.8B2.B.16B$31.14B2A11B2.8B2.13B2.6B33.
B.4B.11B.4B.B.31B32.4B12.4B5.26B$32.13BA20B.2B.13B.2B.4B35.21B3.8B2AB
2A8B.10B33.B12.4B7.B.14B2AB2A4B$32.13B3A15B.B.21B.B37.21B2.10B2A10B.
9B46.4B10.16BA5B$31.32B3.21B40.19B4.21B.11B43.4B10.23B$32.9BABA20B2.
21B40.19B4.21B.12B2.B38.4B12.11B3.8B$30.11BA2BA18B4.19B40.10B.10B2.
22B.12B.3B36.4B13.12B5.2BABA$26.B2.34B4.19B41.9B.9B2.23B.18B33.4B13.
13B3.B2.B2A$25.3B.13B3A19B2.14BA6B38.11B.34B.20B30.A3B13.19B2.2A$23.
42B2.14BA4B35.B2.12B.56B28.A3B14.21B.B$21.58B3A6B32.3B.12B.40B2.13B
29.3A14.27B$20.69B2.B26.18B.40B2.11B47.30B$21.68B.3B23.20B.39B3.8B49.
31B$23.72B20.19B.B.B.35B6.6B49.4B5.B.20B$26.71B19.13B2.4B3.36B8.4B48.
4B8.19B$27.6B2.63B20.11B2.4B3.16B.19B9.B49.4B9.19B$27.4B.2B.62B24.8B
3.2B5.14B4.17B58.4B10.19B$29.B.27B.36B27.6B11.4B2.8B2.B.16B58.4B13.
17B$31.25B4.32B30.4B12.4B5.26B57.4B14.16B$31.27B2.8B2.13B2.6B33.B12.
4B7.B.14B2AB2A4B56.4B16.8BA6B$32.14BA19B.2B.13B.2B.4B45.4B10.16BA5B
56.4B17.7BABA5B$32.13BABA15B.B.21B.B46.4B10.23B55.4B17.8BABA4B$31.14B
ABA15B3.21B47.4B12.11B3.8B54.4B19.8BA5B$32.14BA17B2.21B46.4B13.12B5.
2BABA53.4B20.3B3.8B$30.33B4.19B46.4B13.13B3.B2.B2A53.4B30.5B$26.B2.
34B4.19B45.A3B13.19B2.2A52.4B32.4B$25.3B.35B2.21B43.A3B14.21B.B51.4B
34.2B$23.42B2.19B44.3A14.27B47.4B$21.67B58.30B44.4B$20.69B2.B53.31B
43.4B$21.68B.3B51.4B5.B.20B43.4B$23.72B48.4B8.19B43.4B$26.71B45.4B9.
19B42.4B$27.6B2.63B43.4B10.19B41.4B37.B$27.4B.2B.62B43.4B13.17B40.4B
37.4B$29.B.4B.22B.36B44.4B14.16B40.4B39.3B$31.25B4.32B46.4B16.8BA6B
39.4B41.3B$31.27B2.8B2.13B2.7B45.4B17.7BABA5B38.4B41.BA2B$32.14BA19B.
2B.13B.2B.6B43.4B17.8BABA4B38.4B41.BABAB$32.13BABA15B.B.4B.11B.4B.B.
4B41.4B19.8BA5B37.4B43.ABA3B$31.14BABA15B3.21B4.4B39.4B20.3B3.8B36.4B
45.A5B$32.14BA17B2.21B5.3BA37.4B30.5B35.A3B47.5B$30.33B4.19B7.3BA35.
4B32.4B34.A3B49.4B$26.B2.34B4.19B8.3A34.4B34.2B35.3A14.3B33.4B$25.3B.
35B2.10B.10B43.4B88.4B34.2B$23.18B.23B2.9B.9B43.4B88.4B$21.20B.34B.
11B40.4B88.4B$20.56B.12B2.B35.4B88.4B$21.13B2.40B.12B.3B33.4B88.4B$
23.11B2.40B.18B30.4B88.4B$26.8B3.39B.20B27.4B37.B50.4B$27.6B6.35B.B.B
.19B25.4B37.4B47.4B$27.4B8.36B3.4B2.13B25.4B39.3B46.4B$29.B9.19B.16B
3.4B2.11B26.4B41.3B44.4B$39.17B4.14B5.2B3.8B28.4B41.BA2B43.4B$40.16B.
B2.8B2.4B11.7B27.4B41.BABAB42.4B42.A$40.6BA19B5.4B12.6B25.4B43.ABA3B
39.4B42.A.A$40.5BABA15B.B7.4B12.B.4B23.4B45.A5B37.4B43.A.A$41.4BABA
15B10.4B14.4B21.A3B47.5B36.4B45.A$41.5BA17B10.4B14.4B19.A3B49.4B35.4B
$41.8B3.11B12.4B14.4B18.3A14.3B33.4B34.4B$41.5B5.12B13.4B14.4B33.4B
34.2B34.4B$41.4B2.B3.13B13.4B14.4B31.4B70.4B$42.2B2.19B13.4B14.4B29.
4B70.4B$42.B.21B14.4B14.4B27.4B70.4B$39.27B14.4B14.4B25.4B70.4B$37.
30B14.4B14.4B23.4B70.4B$37.31B14.4B14.4B21.4B70.4B$38.20B.B5.4B14.4B
14.4B19.4B70.4B$39.19B8.4B14.4B14.4B17.4B70.4B$39.19B9.4B14.4B14.4B
15.4B70.4B$39.19B10.4B14.4B14.4B13.4B70.4B$39.17B13.4B14.4B14.4B11.4B
42.A27.4B$40.16B14.4B14.4B14.4B9.4B42.A.A25.4B60.A$40.6BA8B16.4B14.4B
14.3BA7.4B43.A.A24.A3B60.A.A$40.5BABA7B17.4B14.4B14.3BA5.4B45.A24.A3B
61.A.A$41.4BABA8B17.4B14.4B14.3A4.4B71.3A14.3B46.A$41.5BA8B19.4B14.4B
19.4B88.4B$41.8B3.3B20.4B14.4B17.4B88.4B$41.5B30.4B14.4B15.4B88.4B$
41.4B32.4B14.4B13.4B88.4B$42.2B34.4B14.4B11.4B88.4B$79.4B14.4B9.4B88.
4B$80.4B14.4B7.4B88.4B$81.4B14.4B5.4B88.4B$82.4B14.4B3.4B88.4B$83.4B
14.4B.4B88.4B$84.4B14.7B88.4B$47.B37.4B14.5B88.4B$45.4B37.4B13.5B87.
4B$45.3B39.4B11.7B57.A27.4B$44.3B41.4B9.A3B.4B55.A.A25.4B60.A$44.2BAB
41.4B7.A3B3.4B54.A.A24.4B60.A.A$44.BABAB41.4B6.3A5.4B5.3B46.A24.4B61.
A.A$42.3BABA43.4B14.4B3.4B70.4B63.A$41.5BA45.4B14.4B.4B70.4B$41.5B47.
4B14.7B70.4B$41.4B49.4B14.5B70.4B$41.4B33.3B14.4B13.5B69.4B$42.2B34.
4B14.4B11.7B67.4B$79.4B14.4B9.4B.4B65.4B$80.4B14.4B7.4B3.4B63.4B$81.
4B14.4B5.4B5.4B61.4B$82.4B14.4B3.4B7.4B59.4B$83.4B14.4B.4B9.4B57.4B$
84.4B14.7B11.4B55.4B$85.4B14.5B13.4B53.4B$86.4B13.5B14.3BA51.A3B$87.
4B11.7B14.3BA39.A9.A3B$88.4B9.4B.4B14.3A38.A.A8.3A14.3B61.A$46.A42.4B
7.4B3.4B54.A.A24.4B60.A.A$45.A.A42.4B5.4B5.4B54.A24.4B61.A.A$45.A.A
43.4B3.4B7.4B77.4B63.A$46.A45.4B.4B9.4B75.4B$93.7B11.4B73.4B$94.5B13.
4B71.4B$94.5B14.4B69.4B$93.7B14.4B67.4B$92.4B.4B14.4B65.4B$91.4B3.4B
14.4B63.4B$90.4B5.4B14.4B61.4B$89.4B7.4B14.4B59.4B$88.4B9.4B14.4B57.
4B$87.4B11.4B14.4B55.4B$86.A3B13.4B14.4B53.4B$85.A3B15.4B14.4B51.4B$
85.3A14.7B14.4B23.3A13.A9.4B$101.4B.4B14.4B21.A3BA11.A.A7.4B$46.A53.
4B3.4B14.4B19.A5BA10.A.A6.4B$45.A.A51.4B5.4B14.4B18.A5BA11.A6.4B$45.A
.A50.4B7.4B14.4B17.3AB3A17.4B$46.A46.3B.4B9.4B14.4B17.5B17.4B$93.7B
11.4B14.4B16.5B16.4B$94.5B13.4B14.4B8.2B.2A9B2A.2B8.4B$94.5B14.4B14.
4B5.3B4A9B4A3B5.4B$93.7B14.4B14.4B3.3BA2B2A9B2A2BA3B3.4B$92.4B.4B14.
4B14.4B2.3B2A4B2A3B2A4B2A3B2.4B$91.4B3.3B15.4B14.4B2.2B2A3BA2BABA2BA
3B2A2B2.4B$90.4B5.2B16.4B14.4B.5BAB3A3B3ABA5B.4B$89.4B7.B17.4B14.5B6A
9B6A5B$88.4B27.4B14.3B2.A2BA11BA2BA2.3B$87.4B29.4B14.2B3.2A13B2A3.2B$
86.4B31.4B20.13B20.3B$85.4B33.4B16.2B.13B.2B16.4B$84.4B35.4B14.21B4.A
9.4B$83.4B37.4B13.21B3.A.A7.4B$46.A35.4B39.4B12.21B3.A.A6.4B$45.A.A
33.4B41.4B12.19B5.A6.4B$45.A.A32.4B43.4B11.19B11.4B$46.A32.4B45.4B9.
21B9.4B$78.4B47.4B9.19B9.4B$77.4B49.4B6.23B6.4B$76.4B51.4B.B2.25B2.B.
4B$75.4B53.6B.25B.6B$74.4B55.37B$73.4B54.41B$72.4B54.43B$71.A3B56.41B
$70.A3B59.31B2A4B$70.3A63.28BABA$137.6B2.13B2.5BA2B$137.4B.2B.13B.2B.
6B$139.B.21B.B.4B$141.21B2.4B2A$46.A94.21B2.4B2A$45.A.A94.19B3.5B$45.
A.A117.3B$46.A!
(the boat can be used to burn later on, and the block too, but still... went from 12 trails down to +- 5 so deficit it is)

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Tawal » March 24th, 2025, 3:31 am

Two Gliders Octomino predecessor to G (preO-to-G)

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x = 8, y = 12, rule = LifeHistory
E$3E$2.2E$.2E$6.2A$4.A2.A$4.3A$.A$.4A$4.A$3.A$3.2A!
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by hth3 » March 24th, 2025, 8:33 am

Less familiar four of boats:

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x = 5, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
2b2o$3bo$bo2bo$3o$bo!
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