Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by WhiteHawk » May 4th, 2025, 4:17 am

Guntrue_1216 in 5676, down from 5829

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x = 86, y = 66, rule = B3/S23
45b2o11bo6b2o$45b2o10bobo4bo2bo$57bobo3bob3o7b2o$56b2ob2obobo10b2o$60b
obo3b2o$56b2obo2b4obo$56b2obobo3bo$60bobo3bo$61bobo3bo$62bo3b2o2$48b2o
$46b2obo$46b2o$46b2obo$38b2o8b2o$27bo9bo2bo$26bobo3b2o2bob2o42b2o$25b
o2bo3bo3bo45b2o$25bobob2obo2b2o$24b2obobobo18b2o21bo$22bo2bob2o21bo22b
obo$22b2o27b3o19b2o7b2o$53bo10b2o16b2o$63bobo$44b2o17bo$44bo17b2o$42b
obo$24b2o16b2o10bo$24b2o28b3o27b2o$57bo21b2obo2bo$56b2o18bobobob2o$71b
2o2bob2obobo$24b2o45bo3bo3bo2bo$24b2o42b2obo2b2o3bobo$41b4o22bo2bo9bo
$40bo27b2o$39bo4bo8b2o$40bob2o9b2o$41bo$25bo$24bobo$25bo14b2o3bo$40bo
3bobo$14b2o25bo3bobo$14bo27bo3bobob2o$9b2o5bo17b2o4bob4o2bob2o$9bo5b2o
17bobo3b2o3bobo$6b2obo26bo6bobob2ob2o$6bo2bob2o2b2o19b2o2b3obo3bobo$8b
2obo3b2o23bo2bo4bobo10b2o$11bo17bo11b2o6bo11b2o$11b2o15bobo$4b2o11bo11b
o$3bobo10bobo18b3o$3bo13bo8bo$2obo7bo13bobo4b2ob2o$bobob2o2b3o12b2o2b
2o2b2obobo$bobob2o2b2o14b2ob2o8bo$2obo7bo13b3ob2o2bo4bo$o2b4o3bo10b2o
5b3o2bo4bo$b2o3bo3bo10bobo3bobo4bo2b2o$3b2o18bo3b2o8b2o$3bo13bo5b2o$5b
o12bo$4b2o10b3o!
Last edited by WhiteHawk on May 4th, 2025, 5:19 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by confocaloid » May 4th, 2025, 4:49 am

WhiteHawk wrote:
May 4th, 2025, 4:17 am
Guntrue_1216 in 8342, down from 8526

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x = 86, y = 66, rule = B3/S23
That must be some miscalculation. Looks like that actually reduces guntrue_1216 from at most 5829 cells down to 5676 cells.
edit: so it did: https://github.com/Vort/glider_guns/com ... 2814170bd4

Here is the p1476 glider gun (gun_1476, guntrue_1476) reduced from 2706 cells down to 2665 cells:

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x = 65, y = 41, rule = B3/S23
34bo26bo$34b3o22b3o$32b2o3bo20bo$31bo3b2obo11b2o6b2o$32b3obobo11bobo$
32b3obob2o11bo$36bo$33b2obo19b2o$33b2ob2o18b2o5b2o$63b2o$2o$bo$bobo13b
o5bobo20b2o$2b2o12bobo7bo14b2o3b2o$16bobo3b2o17bo$14b2o2bob2obo15bobo
19b2o$13bo25b2o4bo15bobo$14bo5bo22b3o17bo$14bo27bo20b2o$19b2o21b2o$16b
2ob2o$18bo2$20b2o7b2o$2o17bobo7b2o$obob2o13b2o43bo$2bobobo16b2o7b2o28b
obo$b2obo18b2o6bobo8bo20b2o$2bo28bo9bobo$2bo2bo2bo21b2o9bobo$ob2obobo
34bo$2o3b2o$3b2o$4bo$3bo35b2ob2o$3b2o30b2o2b2obo3b2o$35bo6bobo2bo$36b
7ob2o$43bo$38b4obo$38bo2b2o!
Last edited by confocaloid on May 4th, 2025, 5:55 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by WhiteHawk » May 4th, 2025, 5:25 am

Guntrue_1248 reduced by 1 row (2600 ->2550)

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x = 51, y = 49, rule = B3/S23
38b2o8b2o$30bo7bo9b2o$bo2b2o9b2o12bobo4bobo$obo2bo8b3o13bo5b2o$ob3o8b
ob2o23b2o5bob2o$bo3b3o4bobo25b2o5bobo$3bo4bo3bo2bo32bo$2b2ob3o5b2o33b
2o$b2o30bo6b2o6b2o$obob3o21b3o3b2o3bo2bo5b2o$bo6bob2o18bo8bo2b2o$8b4o
2bo12bo10bo2b2o$8bo4b2o12bo3bo6b4o$3b3o2bo2bo2bo16bo16b2o$2b3o3bo2bo16b
o18bo2bo$8bo12b2o25bobo$12bo8b2o23b2obo$12b3o17bo13b3o$15bo15bobo12b2o
$14b2o16bo2$5b2o$4bobo13bo$4bo14bo$b2obo14b3o$2bobob2o$2bobob2o$b2obo
7b2o$bo2b4o3bo2bo7b2o$2b2o3bo4b2o8bobo$4b2o18bo5b2o$4bo19b2o4b3o$6bo23b
2obo$5b2o25bobo$31bo2bo$32b2o$26b2o10b2o$25bo2bo9bobo$26b2o12bo$32bo7b
ob2o$32b3o2b2obobo$33b2o2b2obobo$32bo7bob2o$21b2o10bo3b4o2bo$20bobo10b
o3bo3b2o$20bo18b2o$19b2o5bo13bo$25bo12bo$25b3o10b2o!
EDIT: Guntrue_1392 reduced by one row also (2550 -> 2499), which can also be applied to guntrue_1584

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x = 51, y = 49, rule = B3/S23
16b2o$15bobo$14b3o$14b2o$15bobo$16bobo2b2o$17bo2bobo11b2o$18b4o12b2o2b
2o$19b2o11b2obo2b2o$14b2o16b3o$15bo$15bobo$16b2o15b2o$33b2o$19b2o$19b
2o16bo$37b3o$12b2o26bo$11b3o25b2o$10bob2o$9bobo$9bo2bo18b2o$10b2o19bo
bo$4b2o10b2o13bo$3bobo9bo2bo6b3o$3bo12b2o8b3o$2obo$bobob2o37b2o$bobob
2o37b2o$2obo7b2o$o2b4o3bo2bo7b2o24b2o$b2o3bo4b2o8bobo6b4o13bobo$3b2o18b
o5bo4bo14bo$3bo19b2o3bobo3bo14b2o$bobo23bobo3bo$b2o24bo18b2o$13bo13bo
14b2obo$12bobo12bo2bo11b2o2bo2bo$4bo8bo14b2o17bobo$3b5o40bo$6b3o6bo$13b
3o31b2o$6b4obo35b2o$3b2obob2obo$9bo$4bo$3bobo8b2o14bo$4bo9b2o15bo$29b
3o!
EDIT 2: Keeping with the 16n theme & the search to replace Charity's p16s, guntrue_1872 reduced by 1 row (3120 -> 3060)

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x = 60, y = 51, rule = B3/S23
21bob2o4b2obo10b2o7bo$21b2o2bo2bo2b2o9bo2bo4b3o$19b2o3bo4bo3b2o7bo6bo
8bo$18bo3b2ob4ob2o3bo9bo3b2o5b3o$19b3obo6bob3o6bo3bo9bo$21bobobo2bobo
bo13bo8b2o$22b2o6b2o10bobo2bo$24b6o12bobo2bo$40bobo2bobo$39bo2bo$40b2o
$40b2o$29b2o$28bo2bo16b2o3b2o$23b2o2b2obo16bob2o2b2o$23b2o3b2o16bo2bo
$47b2o$12b2o22b2o$11b3o22b2o$10bob2o21bo2bo$9bobo18bobo2bobo$9bo2bo10b
o6bo2bobo12b6o$10b2o9b2o7bo2bobo10b2o6b2o$4b2o10b2o4b2o7bo13bobobo2bo
bobo$3bobo9bo2bo13bo3bo6b3obo6bob3o$3bo12b2o9b2o3bo9bo3b2ob4ob2o3bo$2o
bo24bo6bo7b2o3bo4bo3b2o$bobob2o18b3o4bo2bo9b2o2bo2bo2b2o$bobob2o18bo7b
2o10bob2o4b2obo$2obo7b2o$o2b4o3bo2bo7b2o$b2o3bo4b2o8bobo$3b2o18bo5b2o
$3bo19b2o4b3o$5bo23b2obo$4b2o25bobo$30bo2bo$31b2o$25b2o10b2o$24bo2bo9b
obo$25b2o12bo$31bo7bob2o$31b3o2b2obobo$32b2o2b2obobo$31bo7bob2o$20b2o
10bo3b4o2bo$19bobo10bo3bo3b2o$19bo18b2o$18b2o5bo13bo$24bo12bo$24b3o10b
2o!
EDIT 3: Guntrue_1936 reduced by 1 row & 1 column (3770 -> 3648)

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x = 56, y = 64, rule = B3/S23
43bo$33bo7b3o$32bobo5bo$33bo6b2o$34bo15b2o$34bo15bo$33b2o2b2o9bobo$32b
o6bo8b2o$33bo2b3o$29b2o2bo4b2o$28bobo7b2o4bo7b2o$28bo7bo6bobo6bo$27b2o
13bo2bo4bobo$20b2o9b2o9b3o5b2o$19bo2bo7bobo21b2o$22b2o6bo23bo$16bo5b3o
4b2o15b2o4bobo$15bobo3bo2bo10bo10b2o4b2o$16b2o3b3o10bo$34b3o$16b2o3b3o
$15bobo3bo2bo$16bo5b3o$22b2o17b2o6bo$7b2o10bo2bo19bo5bobo$7bo12b2o17b
3o7bo$8bo2b2o26bo$7b2o2bobo$6bo2b2o3bo$6bobo2b2obo$4b2obobobobo$4bo2b
obo$6bobobo$5b2obobo$3bo2bob2o$3b2o4$13bo6b2o$12bo6bo2bo$6b2o4b3o5b2o
$5bo2bo$6b2o$23b2o$23bo$bo22b3o$obo23bo$obo$bo13b2ob2o$15b2obo2bo$18b
ob2o$18bo$17b2o$6bo7bobo2b2o$5bobo6b2o2bo2bo$6bo12b2o4$3b2o3b2o$4bo3b
o45bo$b3o5b3o43bo$bo9bo41b3o!
Currently working to improve Life's guns and work on updating SKOPs and Isotropic rules most similar to B3/S23 to Life standards. Will get software to begin searches eventually.

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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by jeremydover » May 5th, 2025, 7:58 am

Guntrue_110 can be reduced by a column (1218 -> 1189) using hotcrystal's p5 sparker that reduced the p55 gun. And while we're at it, we can drop 19 stator cells on the structure at right:

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x = 41, y = 29, rule = Life
25b2o$26bo$5bo7b2o8b2o$5b3o5bobob2o3b2ob4o$8bo6bob2o6bo3bo$7b2o5bo9bo
2bo2bo$14bob3o6b5o$9b2o4bo2bo5bo$8bo2b6o4b2o3b2o$8bo3b4o6bobo2b3o$9bo
13bobo4bo$3bobo17bo2b4o$2bob2o17bo3bo$2bo20b2ob2ob3o$2ob5o15bo3bobo2bo
$bobo4bo15b2obo4bo$bo2b2o2bo3bo12bob2o4b2o$2o2bo6bo2bo9bo4bo5bo$2b2o3b
o6bo9bob4o5bo$2bob2o3bo5bo9bo4b2o2b2ob2o$obobo6bo3bo10b3obobo3bobo$2o
2bo4b3o2bo13bo3b2obo$4b2o26bo3b2o$33b3o2bo$33bo3bo2bo$17b2o13b2obobob
2o$17bo10bo4bobobo$18b3o8bo6b2o$20bo6b3o!

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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by ElijahKen » August 5th, 2025, 1:12 pm

Two columns shaved off of gun_19 (11600 -> 11400):

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x = 114, y = 100, rule = B3/S23
37b2o37b2o$37b2o9b2obo11bob2o9b2o$49bob3o7b3obo$45b2o2bo4bo5bo4bobobo$
45b3obo3bobo3bobo3bobo2bo$38bo6bo2bo3bo2bo3bo2bo3bo2bo$37b3o7bo4bobo5b
obo$36bo2b2o9bobob2o3b2ob2o3b2o$35b3o8b2o5bo2bobo4b2o11b2o$49bobob4ob
2obo3bo2bo8bo$46bob3o2bo7bobo2b2o6bo3bo$10b2o9bo24bo3bo2bob2ob2ob4obob
o7bo16bo9b2o$10b2o7b5o9b3ob2obo6bo3bo2bobobobo2bobob2o6bobobobobo7b5o
7b2o$14b2o2bo5bo8bo2bob3o3bo2b3ob2obo5bo4bo2bo2bo3b2ob4ob2o5bo5bo2b2o$
10b5o2bob5o9b2ob2ob2o3bo2b3ob2ob2o3b2ob2obo2bo2bob2ob2o6bo6b3obobo2b5o
$9bo6b2obobo12b3o10bo8bobo3b4ob2o6bo6b2o11bob2o6bo$9bob5o2bo2bo9b2o2b
2o9bo3bo2b2obobob2o4bobo24bob2o2b3obobo$10b2obo2bo3bo10b3o11bob2o2bo2b
2o3b2o2bob3o10b2o6bo6b2obobo4b2o$13bob2ob3o2bo3b2ob2ob2o12bobob2o9b2ob
ob2obo6bo6b2ob2obo2bo2bobo2bo$10b2ob2obob3o2bo3b3obo2bo8b2o4bobo11bobo
5bo5b2ob4ob2o3bo2bo2bobo2bob2o$11bobobo4bo6bob2ob3o7bo5bo2bo11bo2bo2bo
2bo5bobobobobo6b2obo4bobo$10bo2bob3o3bo20bob2o2bobo13bobo2b2obo12bo7bo
bobobobo2bo$9bo3bobob3obo19b2obo4bo15bo4bob2o9bo3bo6b2o3bo2b2obo$10b2o
5b2o25bo25bo13bo7bo2bobo2bo3bo$15bo6b2o6b3o11b2o4bo18b2o13b2o12bo$17b
4o6b2o2bo18b3o38b2obob2o2bo$11b2ob3o2b2obo5b3o22bo39b2o3b2o3bo$10bo6bo
11bo8b2obo2b2o6b2o40b4o2b3obo$9bobo2bobo2bo18bob2o3bo41bo7bo2b2o3bobo$
9bo2bo3bob2o3b2o17b3o10b2o27bo5b2o3b2obo3bo2bo$10b2o4bobo4bo15b2obo5bo
6b2o26bo3bo3bo4bobo4b2o$14b2o3b3obo13bo2bo6b2o34b3o5bob3o3b2o$14bo6bob
ob2o10b2o2bobobo43bobobo6bo$16bo5bobo2bo15b2o2bo39b2obobo5bo$15b2o7bob
2o16bob2o8b2o29b2obo7b2o$21bo2bo19bobo9bobo31bo2bo$20bobobo4bo13b2o2bo
8bo9bo22b2obobo$19bo2bobo2b3o16b2o18b3o17b2obo2bo2bo$18bo3bo3bo42bo15b
o2bo2bob2obo$19b2o6b3o38b2o16b2o7bo$30bo10bo$22b2o2bobob5o7bo$22bo2bob
2o11b3o3bo5b2o$24b2o4b3o12b2o6b2o14b3o$26b4ob2o12b2o24bo$26bo5b2o11b2o
10b2o10bobo12b2o5bo5b2o$28bo4bo11b3o9bobo10b2o6b2o3bo2bo3bobobobo2bob
2o$30b3o13bo12bo11b2o5bobo2bobobo2b2ob2ob2obob2o$27bob2o19bo8b2o10b2o
7bo3bob2o3bo5bobo$26b2o52b2o4bo4b4obo2bo$82bo2b2o7bo2bob2o$20b2o45bo
14bo2bobob3o3bobo2bo$21bo8b2o17bo16bobob2o11b3obob2ob2ob2obo$8b2ob2o2b
2o4bobo6b2o6b2o10bo15bobobobo13bobo9b2o$4b2obobobo2bo2bo4b2o7b3o3bo2bo
7b3o12b2obobobobo2bo7b2obo3bo2b4o3bo$3bo2b2o4b3ob2o11bob2o3bob2o14bobo
6bo2bo2b2ob4o6bobo3b4o6b2obo$2bobo4b3o4bo11bob4ob2o18b2o8b2o4bo10bo5bo
bo8bobo$2bo2b3o3bo2b2o2bo6b3obob2o22bo15bo2b4o3b2o3bo2bob8o2b2o$b2o4b
2ob3ob2ob4o4bo2b3ob2o7b2o26b2o3bo2bo2bo6b3o3b4o2bobo$8bo2bo3bo5bo5b5o
9bo18bo7bobobobobo4b4o4bo9bobo$b4o4bo2b4ob3o2bo4bobobo10b3o16bo6bo2bob
obob4o3bo15bo$bo3bo4b2o4b2o2b2o22bo14b3o7bobobo3bo3bo$3b2o2bo2bobo2bob
2o10bo40bo2b2ob4obo6bo4bobo$7bobob6obo10bo19b2o22bo2bo2b2o3bo4b2o4bo$
3bobo14b2o16b2o9bo24b2o7b2o4b3ob3o$4bo13bo2b3o14bobo10bo30b2o6b2o$19bo
4bo6b2o5bo8b5o31bo7b2o7bo$20b3obo7bo13bo15bobo19bo14bobo$15bo6b2o8bobo
12b3o13b2o25bo3bo$11b3o19b2o15bo12bo6bo19b4o5b2o2b2o$11b2o3bo30b2obo
17bobo19b2o2b2o5b4o$2o17bo22b2o3bo3b2o16b2o29bo3bo4bo2bo$2o6b2o2bo3bo
3bo21bo5b3o2bo39bobo13bo$12bo3bo2bo30bob2o40bo7b2o9bo$13bo2bo2bo30bo
22bobo27b2o7b2o$15b2obo30b2o23b2o23b3ob3o$14bob2o56bo24bo4b2o$13bo2bo
2bo11bo59bo7bobo4bo$13bo2bo3bo10b2o8b2o23b2o11bo11b3o$12bo3bo3bo2b2o5b
obo8bo24b2o3bo8bo13bo$13bo24bo3b3o25bobo5b3o8b4obo14bo$16bo3b2o15bobo
4bo26bobo15bo2b3obob4o7bo$19b3o11b2o2bobo33bo20b2ob7obobo2bo$11b2o4bo
14bobo3bo34b2o8bo10b2o8b2obobo$11bo20bo3b2o46b2o6b2o9b2o3bo3bo$5b2o6bo
15bo3b4o46b2o6bo2b3ob4o2bo4b4o$6bo2b4obo14b4o5bo53bo12b2o$6bobo5bo18bo
b3o55b4o3b2ob3o5b2o$5b2o2bo4bob6o9bobobo2bo50bo5bo3b2o5b3o2bo$5bo2bobo
bo4bo2bob2o6bobo3bobo48bobo7bo4b2obo3bobo$7b2obo2b4o4b2o2bo3bobo5bobo
48b2o6b2ob3o2bob2o2bo$8bo2bobobob4o4bo3bo8bo57bo2bo2bobobob2o$6bo3b2ob
obo2bo2b2ob2o2b2o2bo64b2o2b2ob2o$6b2o4bobob2o3b3ob2o3b3o59bobo$12b2o4b
2o6b4o6b2o55b2o$6b2o3b2o2b2obobo9b5o2bo55bo$6bobo2bo3bo2b3o8bobo3b2o$
7b3obo4b2o2b2obo4b2o2b3o63bo$9b2o4b3o5b3o2b3obobo64bo$30bob2o63b3o!
I moved the lower right gun inward with JLS.
Edit: A row too (off the top) (11286):

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x = 114, y = 99, rule = B3/S23
38b2o35b2o$38b2o9b2obo9bob2o9b2o$50bob3o5b3obo$47bo2bo4bo3bo4bo2b2o$
45b2obobo3bobobobo3bob3o$49bo3bo2bobo2bo3bo2bo$47b2o4bobo3bobo4bo$39bo
11bobob2ob2obobo9bo$38b3o6b2o2b2obo5bo5b2o4bo2bo3bo$37bo2b2o6b3obo2bob
4obobo11bobobo$41bo5bobo2bobobobobo2b3obo5bo2b2o$11b2o9bo16b3o5bo6bobo
bobo2bo3bo5b2obob2o12bo9b2o$11b2o7b5o12b2ob2o4b2o2bobo2bobobo2bo3bo6bo
bo2b3o9b5o7b2o$15b2o2bo5bo9b2obo7b2o2bob2obo3bob2ob3o2bo2bob2o4bob2o5b
o5bo2b2o$11b5o2bob2ob2o10bo2b2o6b2o2bo2bob2o2bob2ob3o2bo3b2o4bobo8b5ob
o2b5o$10bo6b2obobo13b2o8b2o2bo6bobo6bo6bo18bobob2o6bo$10bob2ob2o5bo24b
o6b2obob2o2bo3bo24bo2bo2b5obo$11b2obo2bobo2b2o8b2o12bo3bobo2bobo4bo2b
2obo17bo6bo3bo2bob2o$16b2obo2b2o6b2o2bo12b2obob2o2bob2ob2obobo11bobo4b
2o3bo2b3ob2obo$11b2ob2o3bo2b2o7bob2o9b5obo7bo3bobo4b2o5b2obo4b2obo2bo
2b3obob2ob2o$12bobo2bobo2b2o4b2ob2o10bo2bo2bob3o2bobo3bo2bo5bo7b3o2bob
o6bo4bobobo$11bo2bo2bo4bo5b3o12bob2o2bo3bo2b2o5bobo2b2obo8b2obob2o5bo
3b3obo2bo$10bob3obo3bobo5bo13b2obo4bobo11bo4bob2o9b2o2bo5bob3obobo3bo$
11b2o3b2ob3o6b2o2bo13bo2b2ob2o15bo9bobobo11b2o5b2o$16b2o2bob3o4b3o15bo
20b2o10bo3bo2bo2b2o6bo$18bob2obo6bo17b3ob2o32bo6b4o$12b2o2b2o5bo14b2ob
o2b2o4bob2o37bob2o2b3ob2o$11bob3o2b2o2bo15bob2o3bo50bo6bo$10bobo2b3o
24b3o10b2o37bo2bobo2bobo$10bo2bo3bob2o3b2o13b2obo5bo6b2o26bob2o2b2o3b
2obo3bo2bo$11b2o4bobo4bo12bo2bo6b2o34bo2bo3bo4bobo4b2o$15b2o3b3obo12b
2o2bobobo37b3o4bob3o3b2o$15bo6bobob2o15b2o2bo39b2obobo6bo$17bo5bobo2bo
15bob2o8b2o28bo2bobo5bo$16b2o3bobobob2o15bobo9bobo27b2obo7b2o$20bob2ob
obo15b2o2bo8bo9bo22bo2bo$20bo4b3o18b2o18b3o20bobobo$21b4o2b2o40bo15b2o
2bobo2bo$25bo3bo38b2o14bo2bo3bo3bo$23b2obobobo10bo43b2o6b2o$22bo2b2obo
b5o7bo$23bo3b2o11b3o3bo5b2o$24b2o4b3o12b2o6b2o14b3o$26b4ob2o12b2o24bo$
26bo5b2o11b2o10b2o10bobo12b2o5bo5b2o$28bo4bo11b3o9bobo10b2o6b2o3bo2bo
3bobobobo2bob2o$30b3o13bo12bo11b2o5bobo2bobobo2b2ob2ob2obob2o$27bob2o
19bo8b2o10b2o7bo3bob2o3bo5bobo$26b2o52b2o4bo4b4obo2bo$82bo2b2o7bo2bob
2o$20b2o45bo14bo2bobob3o3bobo2bo$21bo8b2o17bo16bobob2o11b3obob2ob2ob2o
bo$8b2ob2o2b2o4bobo6b2o6b2o10bo15bobobobo13bobo9b2o$4b2obobobo2bo2bo4b
2o7b3o3bo2bo7b3o12b2obobobobo2bo7b2obo3bo2b4o3bo$3bo2b2o4b3ob2o11bob2o
3bob2o14bobo6bo2bo2b2ob4o6bobo3b4o6b2obo$2bobo4b3o4bo11bob4ob2o18b2o8b
2o4bo10bo5bobo8bobo$2bo2b3o3bo2b2o2bo6b3obob2o22bo15bo2b4o3b2o3bo2bob
8o2b2o$b2o4b2ob3ob2ob4o4bo2b3ob2o7b2o26b2o3bo2bo2bo6b3o3b4o2bobo$8bo2b
o3bo5bo5b5o9bo18bo7bobobobobo4b4o4bo9bobo$b4o4bo2b4ob3o2bo4bobobo10b3o
16bo6bo2bobobob4o3bo15bo$bo3bo4b2o4b2o2b2o22bo14b3o7bobobo3bo3bo$3b2o
2bo2bobo2bob2o10bo40bo2b2ob4obo6bo4bobo$7bobob6obo10bo19b2o22bo2bo2b2o
3bo4b2o4bo$3bobo14b2o16b2o9bo24b2o7b2o4b3ob3o$4bo13bo2b3o14bobo10bo30b
2o6b2o$19bo4bo6b2o5bo8b5o31bo7b2o7bo$20b3obo7bo13bo15bobo19bo14bobo$
15bo6b2o8bobo12b3o13b2o25bo3bo$11b3o19b2o15bo12bo6bo19b4o5b2o2b2o$11b
2o3bo30b2obo17bobo19b2o2b2o5b4o$2o17bo22b2o3bo3b2o16b2o29bo3bo4bo2bo$
2o6b2o2bo3bo3bo21bo5b3o2bo39bobo13bo$12bo3bo2bo30bob2o40bo7b2o9bo$13bo
2bo2bo30bo22bobo27b2o7b2o$15b2obo30b2o23b2o23b3ob3o$14bob2o56bo24bo4b
2o$13bo2bo2bo11bo59bo7bobo4bo$13bo2bo3bo10b2o8b2o23b2o11bo11b3o$12bo3b
o3bo2b2o5bobo8bo24b2o3bo8bo13bo$13bo24bo3b3o25bobo5b3o8b4obo14bo$16bo
3b2o15bobo4bo26bobo15bo2b3obob4o7bo$19b3o11b2o2bobo33bo20b2ob7obobo2bo
$11b2o4bo14bobo3bo34b2o8bo10b2o8b2obobo$11bo20bo3b2o46b2o6b2o9b2o3bo3b
o$5b2o6bo15bo3b4o46b2o6bo2b3ob4o2bo4b4o$6bo2b4obo14b4o5bo53bo12b2o$6bo
bo5bo18bob3o55b4o3b2ob3o5b2o$5b2o2bo4bob6o9bobobo2bo50bo5bo3b2o5b3o2bo
$5bo2bobobo4bo2bob2o6bobo3bobo48bobo7bo4b2obo3bobo$7b2obo2b4o4b2o2bo3b
obo5bobo48b2o6b2ob3o2bob2o2bo$8bo2bobobob4o4bo3bo8bo57bo2bo2bobobob2o$
6bo3b2obobo2bo2b2ob2o2b2o2bo64b2o2b2ob2o$6b2o4bobob2o3b3ob2o3b3o59bobo
$12b2o4b2o6b4o6b2o55b2o$6b2o3b2o2b2obobo9b5o2bo55bo$6bobo2bo3bo2b3o8bo
bo3b2o$7b3obo4b2o2b2obo4b2o2b3o63bo$9b2o4b3o5b3o2b3obobo64bo$30bob2o
63b3o!
Edit 2:
Also one row off gun_171 (2115 -> 2068) (more JLS welding):

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x = 47, y = 44, rule = B3/S23
18b2o$5bob2o9bo2bo$3b3obo$2bo4bo2bo$bobo3bobob2o7b2o$bo2bo3bo23bo2b2o$
2bobo4b2o21b4o3b2ob2o$b2obobo8bo21bo2bobobo$o2bob2o2b2o5b2o16b5o$3o2bo
b3o6b3o2b3o9bobo7bobo$3bobo2bobo6b3o2b2o9bo2b2obo5bo$2obo6bo8bo2bo7b2o
b2obob2o2b3o$obo2bobo2b2o3bobo4bo2bo4bo2bo$2bob2obo2b2o5bo3bobo2bo5bo
2bob3o2bo$b2obo2bo2b2o3b3o5bobo7b2o5b3o$o6bo2b2o23bobob2ob2obo$ob2o6bo
24bo4bobo3bo$b2o2bobo3bo22b2o2bobo4bo$4b2obob2o9bobo5b3o3b2o2bo2bobo$
5bobob5o5bo2bobo3bo5b2o2bob2o$5bo2bo2bo2bo5bo2bo4bobo3b2o2bob3obo$6bob
o2b2obo8bo2bo8bo4b2o2bo$7bo4bob2o6b2o2b3o6bobo3bo2b2o$10bo11b3o2b3o6b
3obo3b2o$10b2o16b2o7bo7b2o$30bo7bo2bo$15bo22bo2bo$15b3o23b2o$18bo20bob
obobo$17b2o6bo2b2o2b2o3b3obobo$26b3o4bo2bo3bo4b2o$8b2o17bo5bobo2bobobo
$7bobo20b2obobob2obobobobo$7bo21bo2bo2bo2bobobo3bo$4b2obo7bo13b2obobob
o3bobob2o$5bobob2o2b3o14bobo2bob3o3bo$5bobob2o2b2o15b2o2bobo3b2obo$4b
2obo7bo12b2obo5b2obobo$4bo2b4o3bo10b2o2bobob2o3bobo$5b2o3bo3bo10bob2o
3bo5bobo$7b2o18bo11bo$7bo13bo5bobo$9bo12bo5b2o$8b2o10b3o!
And a third edit:
Similar to above, one row off the bottom of gun_228 (also 2115 -> 2068):

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x = 47, y = 44, rule = B3/S23
18b2o$5bob2o9bo2bo$3b3obo$2bo4bo2bo$bobo3bobob2o7b2o$bo2bo3bo23bo2b2o$
2bobo4b2o21b4o3b2ob2o$b2obobo8bo21bo2bobobo$o2bob2o2b2o5b2o16b5o$3o2bo
b3o6b3o2b3o9bobo7bobo$3bobo2bobo6b3o2b2o9bo2b2obo5bo$2obo6bo8bo2bo7b2o
b2obob2o2b3o$obo2bobo2b2o3bobo4bo2bo4bo2bo$2bob2obo2b2o5bo3bobo2bo5bo
2bob3o2bo$b2obo2bo2b2o3b3o5bobo7b2o5b3o$o6bo2b2o23bobob2ob2obo$ob2o6bo
24bo4bobo3bo$b2o2bobo3bo22b2o2bobo4bo$4b2obob2o9bobo5b3o3b2o2bo2bobo$
5bobob5o5bo2bobo3bo5b2o2bob2o$5bo2bo2bo2bo5bo2bo4bobo3b2o2bob3obo$6bob
o2b2obo8bo2bo8bo4b2o2bo$7bo4bob2o6b2o2b3o6bobo3bo2b2o$10bo11b3o2b3o6b
3obo3b2o$10b2o16b2o7bo7b2o$16b2o12bo7bo2bo$15b3o20bo2bo$14bob2o23b2o$
13bobo23bobobobo$13bo2bo8bo2b2o2b2o3b3obobo$14b2o10b3o4bo2bo3bo4b2o$8b
2o10b2o5bo5bobo2bobobo$7bobo9bo2bo7b2obobob2obobobobo$7bo12b2o7bo2bo2b
o2bobobo3bo$4b2obo7bo13b2obobobo3bobob2o$5bobob2o2b3o14bobo2bob3o3bo$
5bobob2o2b2o15b2o2bobo3b2obo$4b2obo7bo12b2obo5b2obobo$4bo2b4o3bo10b2o
2bobob2o3bobo$5b2o3bo3bo10bob2o3bo5bobo$7b2o18bo11bo$7bo13bo5bobo$9bo
12bo5b2o$8b2o10b3o!
And a very different design for gun_114 (2112 -> 2068):

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x = 47, y = 44, rule = B3/S23
18b2o$5bob2o9bo2bo$3b3obo$2bo4bo2bo$bobo3bobob2o7b2o$bo2bo3bo23bo2b2o$
2bobo4b2o21b4o3b2ob2o$b2obobo8bo21bo2bobobo$o2bob2o2b2o5b2o16b5o$3o2bo
b3o6b3o2b3o9bobo7bobo$3bobo2bobo6b3o2b2o9bo2b2obo5bo$2obo6bo8bo2bo7b2o
b2obob2o2b3o$obo2bobo2b2o3bobo4bo2bo4bo2bo$2bob2obo2b2o5bo3bobo2bo5bo
2bob3o2bo$b2obo2bo2b2o3b3o5bobo7b2o5b3o$o6bo2b2o23bobob2ob2obo$ob2o6bo
24bo4bobo3bo$b2o2bobo3bo22b2o2bobo4bo$4b2obob2o9bobo5b3o3b2o2bo2bobo$
5bobob5o5bo2bobo3bo5b2o2bob2o$5bo2bo2bo2bo5bo2bo4bobo3b2o2bob3obo$6bob
o2b2obo8bo2bo8bo4b2o2bo$7bo4bob2o6b2o2b3o6bobo3bo2b2o$12bo3bo5b3o2b3o
6b3obo3b2o$9b2obo3b3o9b2o7bo7b2o$10bob2o5bo10bo7bo2bo$10bobo5b2o18bo2b
o$9b2obo28b2o$9bo2bob2o2b2o19bobobobo$11b2obo3b2o5bo2b2o2b2o3b3obobo$
14bo11b3o4bo2bo3bo4b2o$14b2o3bo7bo5bobobo2bobo$19b2o9b2obo2bo2b2obobob
o$5b2ob2o10b2o7bo2bob2o6bo3bo$5b2obo20b2obo9bob2o$8bo5b2o14bobob2o7bo$
8b2o6bo10bo2b3obobo4bobo$6b2o2bo2bob2o10b3obo2bo2bo3b2o$5bo2bob2o18bo
3b3obo$5b2obobo13b2o3bo6b2o$6bo2b3o12bobo2b2o$6bo5bo6bo6bo$7b5o8bo5b2o
$9bo8b3o!
Old design (I did not expect this to be beat):

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#C [[ GRID MAXGRIDSIZE 14 THEME Catagolue ]]
#CSYNTH gun_114 costs 2112 cells.
#C period 114 fullperiod 228 bbox 66 by 32
#CLL state-numbering golly
x = 66, y = 32, rule = LifeHistory
21.A.2A.2AB$21.2A.ABABAB$26.BA3B$11.B2AB12.4B$11.4AB12.B3AB2.B2.3B
14.A4.2A$10.ABA2BA13.A11B13.A.A4.A$10.2AB.A.AB9.3BA7BA3B.2B8.A2.A
2.A$11.B3.ABAB8.11BA7B7.A.2A.A.4A$16.B2A4.10BAB2ABA8B5.2A.A2.A.B3.
A$15.B3A4.13BA11B2.2BA2.A.2A.2A2.A$14.BABAB2.11BA3BA2BA9B.2B2ABA.B
2AB.A.2A$15.2A2.13B3ABA2BA12B2A.A2B.2B.A$20.12BA4B2A10B.2BABA.3AB.
2A$21.28B2.B2ABA3.BA$22.25B4.BA3.2A.A.2A$23.12B.11B5.B2A.A.2A.A.A$
23.13B.8B9.A.A3.A2.A$4.A5.A14.10B2.7B10.A.A3.A.A$3.A.A3.A.A10.7B2.
10B14.A5.A$2.A2.A3.A.A9.8B.13B$2.A.A.2A.A.2AB5.11B.12B$3.2A.A.2A3.
AB4.25B7.A$5.AB3.AB2AB2.28B6.3A$3.2A.B3A.ABA2B.10B2A4BA12B3.2A3.A$
3.A.2B.2BA.2A12BA2BAB3A13B.A.B.2A.A$2A.A.B2AB.AB2A2B.9BA2BA3BA11B
2.B2A2B.A.A$.A2.2A.2A.A2.A2B2.11BA13B5.3AB.A.2A$.A3.B.A2.A.2A5.8BA
B2ABA10B6.ABA.A$2.4A.A.2A.A7.7BA11B10.ABA.A$6.A2.A2.A8.2B.3BA7BA3B
11.2A.2A$4.A4.A.A13.11BA$4.2A4.A14.3B2.B2.B3AB!
Edit 4:
One row off gun_285 as well, allowing me to clear useless junk from the design (2964 -> 2907):

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x = 57, y = 51, rule = B3/S23
30bob2o$9b2o4b3o5b3o2b3obobo$7b3obo4b2o2b2obo4b2o2b3o16b3o$6bobo2bo3bo
2b3o8bobo3b2o13bo3bo$6b2o3b2o2b2obobo9b5o2bob2o9bo3bo$12b2o4b2o6b4o6b
2obo11b3o$6b2o4bobob2o3b3ob2o3b3o6bo$6bo3b2obobo2bo2b2ob2o2b2o2bo3b3o$
8bo2bobobob4o4bo3bo5bo$7b2obo2b4o4b2o2bo3bobo4bo4b2o$5bo2bobobo4bo2bob
2o6bobo2b2o2bo2bo8b3o$5b2o2bo4bob6o9bobo5b3o8bo3bo$6bobo5bo18b5o12bo3b
o$6bo2b4obo14b4o4b3o11b3o$5b2o6bo15bo3b4o3bo$11bo20bo3b5o$11b2o19bobo$
21bo11b2o2b2o$21b2o14bobo$22b2o15bo$22bo16bobo$17b3obo18b2o$17b3o25bo$
44bobo$44bobo$13b3o29bo$11bob3o$2o8bo28bo$2o7b2o26bobo$10b2o26b2o$11bo
$22bo$20b3o21b2o$19bo23bo2bo$4bo13bo2b2o20bo2bo$3bobo14b2o2bo11b2o6b2o
4b2o$7bobob6obo4b2o10bobo12bobo$3b2o2bo2bobo2bob2o16bo16bo$bo3bo4b2o4b
2o2b2o12b2o7b2o7b2o$b4o4bo2b4ob3o2bo20b2o$8bo2bo3bo5bo$b2o4b2ob3ob2ob
4o$2bo2b3o3bo2b2o2bo$2bobo4b3o4bo$3bo2b2o4b3ob2o21b2o6b2o$4b2obobobo2b
o2bo19bo4bo2bo4bo$8b2ob2o2b2o20bo4bo2bo4bo$37bo4bo2bo4bo$39b2o6b2o$55b
2o$55b2o!
(I posted it to Catagolue without the bottom right block.)
Old junky gun:

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#C [[ GRID MAXGRIDSIZE 14 THEME Catagolue ]]
#CSYNTH gun_285 costs 2964 cells.
#C period 285 fullperiod 285 bbox 57 by 52
#CLL state-numbering golly
x = 57, y = 52, rule = LifeHistory
16.B7.B4.BAB2A18.B$9.2A4.3A4.B3A2.3A.A.A16.3B$7.3A.A4.2A2.2ABAB3.
2A2.3A6.2A8.3B$6.A.AB.A3.AB.3A.B5.BA.A3.2A3.A2.A6.5B$6.2A2.B2A2B2A
BA.A6.B2.5A2.A2.A.A7.B3AB$.2A9.2AB3.2A3B2.B4A6.2A3.A7.2BABA2B$A.A
3.2A4.ABAB2A.2B3A.2A3.3A16.2B3A2B$2A4.A3.2A.A.A2.A2.2A.2A2.2A2.A
15.3B3A3B$8.A2.A.A.AB4A.2B.AB2.A8.A9.3B3A3B$7.2A.A2.4A.2B.2A2BA3.A
.A5.A.A9.2B3A2B$5.A2.A.ABA2.B.A2BA.2AB5.A.A3.A.AB9.2BABA2B$5.2A.BA
.3BAB6AB8.A.A.A2.A5.2A4.B3AB$6.A.A2.B2.A2.4B12.A.3AB5.A5.5B$6.A2.
4A.A3.2B9.4A5.A3.A.A6.3B$5.2A6.A4.2B9.A3.4AB4.2A6.4B$11.A6.5B3.B4.
BA3.2A12.3B$11.2A4.12B2.BABA2B.A11.4B$17.16B2A2.A.A.A.2A4.6B$14.B.
17B4.A.A.2A.A4.7B$3.2A2.2A4.4B2A14B5.A.A7.8BA$2.A.A2.2A3.6B2A13B7.
A7.6BABA$.A.A8.3BA2BA15B6.A.AB2.9B2A$.2A8.4BA6B.3B5.4B6.2AB.12B$9.
9BA7B6.4B7.3BA9B$7.7BA9B9.4B6.2BABA7B$.4B2.3B.6BA4B6.2A4.3BA5.2BAB
A7B$.13BA2BA3B6.A2.A4.ABAB4.3BA3B2.B$2A11B2A6B3.A3.2A6.2A2B3.6B$2A
12B2A4B3.A.A11.4B.6B$.B.14B.B5.2A12.4B.5B6.2A$4.12B12.A.2A7.8B8.A$
4.12B6.A5.2A.A8.7B7.A$6.B3.5B5.3A16.10B5.A.A$13.2B4.A14.2A3.6B2A4B
4.2A$4.A8.2B3.AB.2A8.A.A.A3.5BA2BA3B$3.ABA6.4B.B.B2A2.A6.2A6.5BA2B
A3B$3.2B.BABAB6A.AB3.2A2.A9.2AB.4B2A2B.B2A$3.2A.BA2BA.A2BA.2AB7.3A
6.A.AB.8B.BA.A$.A3.A3.B2A.2B.2A2.2A8.A5.A4.8B4.A$.4A4.AB.4A.3A2.A
6.A.A3.2A5.2B2AB6.A.A$7.BA.BA3.AB4.A4.A3.A.A10.B2A8.2A$.2A4.2AB3AB
2A.4A4.A.A3.A.A10.B$2.A2.3A3.A.B2A2.A5.A.A5.A11.2B$2.A.A3.B3A4.A7.
A10.2A7.2B$3.A2.2A.B2.3A.2A5.2A10.2A5.6B$4.2A.A.A.A2.A2.A5.A16.2A
6B2A$8.2A.2A2.2A7.3A11.BA2BA4BA2BAB3.2A$26.A2.2A6.B6A2B6AB2.A$.2A
16.2A8.A8.BA2BA4BA2BAB4.A$.A7.A9.A11.A8.2A6B2A4.A.A$2.3A3.A.A10.A
8.2A10.6B6.2A$4.A4.A10.2A22.2B!
Engineering macro-spaceships is hard.

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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by iNoMed » August 15th, 2025, 7:18 am

Here's a pair of period-30n gun reductions, using a LCM(84,30) reaction:

p420, reduced from a 43x41 (1763-cell BB) design using a queen-bee shuttle and a quadri-snark to period-multiply a p70 gun, to 41x40 (1640-cell BB):

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x = 39, y = 41, rule = B3/S23
22b2o4b2o$22bobo2bobo$24bo2bo$23bo4bo$23bo4bo$23bo4bo$16bo8b2o5bo$14b
3o14bobo$13bo10bo6bobo$2o11b2o8bobo4b2obob2o$bo20bo3bobo4bobo$bobo18bo
3b2o3b3o2bo$2b2o18bo3bo4bo2bobo$23bobo7b2ob2o$24bo3bo7bo$30b6o2bo$36b
3o$32b4o$30bo6b2o$5bobo27b2obo$5bo2bo20bo3bo2bo$5bo2bo24b3o2bo$7bo22bo
4bob2o$32b2obobo$12bo20bobobo$11bo2bo18bobob2o$11bo2bo19bo$12bobo7$16b
2o$16bobo$18bo$5b2o11b2o$6bo$3b3o$3bo!
p840, reduced from a 47x40 (1880-cell BB) design using a Karel's p15 and a quadri-snark to period-multiply a p70 gun, also to 41x40 (1640-cell BB):

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x = 39, y = 41, rule = B3/S23
22b2o4b2o$22bobo2bobo$24bo2bo$23b2o2b2o$22b3o2b3o$24bo2bo$16bo15bo$14b
3o14bobo$13bo17bobo$2o11b2o15b2obob2o$bo28bo2bobo$bobo18b2o7bobo2bo$2b
2o16bo2bo7bo2bobo$33b2ob2o$21bobo7bo4bo$22b2o7b5o2bo$36b3o$33b3o$33bo
3b2o$5bobo27b2obo$5b3o25bo2bo$6bobo14bo9bobo2bo$7bo16b2o6bo2bob2o$23b
2o7b2obobo$12bo20bobobo$11bobo19bobob2o$12b3o19bo$12bobo6$25b2o$16b2o
3b2obo2bob2o$16bobo2bo4bo2b2o$18bo6bo$5b2o11b2o2bobo$6bo$3b3o$3bo!

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x = 35, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
4b2o3b2o3bo3b2ob2o3b2ob2o$2o2bobo3bo2bobobobobobobobobobo$obobo2bo2bob
o2bobo2bo2bobo3bobo$2bobo3bobobobo2bo5bobo3bobob2o$b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2o3b
2ob2o3b2ob2o!

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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by WhiteHawk » August 18th, 2025, 1:25 pm

guntrue_525 reduced (3710 -> 3672) EDIT: Optimized PD location

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x = 71, y = 48, rule = B3/S23
12bo2b2o4b2o2bo$11bo3b3o2b3o3bo3b2o$12bo2b2o4b2o2bo4b2o10b2o6b2o$41bo
2bo4bo2bo$28b4o8b6o2b6o$28bo2bo9bo2bo4bo2bo$42b2o6b2o2$3b2ob2o24b3o$2b
o29b2obo9bo2bo$2bobo3b2o13b2o12bo5b3o2b3o$b2obo4bo11b2o2bo7bo3bo4bo2b
o2bo2bo$o3b3ob2o5b3o6b3o5bo3bo6b2o4b2o$b3o3b3o4b7o3bo10bo7b2o4b2o$b2o
b3o3bo2bobo6bo2bo6b3o$bo4bob2o4bo5b2obo$b2o3bobo5b2o2bo3bobob2o$8bo10b
2o5b2o$3b2ob2o5b2o5bo5bo9b2o19bo$16bo7bo6bo2bo2bo17b3o$9b2o4b3o10bobo
3b3o17bo$8bobo10bo6bobo23b2o$8bo25b2obo$7b2o26bob3o$12b2o21bo4bo25b2o
$13bo20b2o3b2o25bo$10b3o34b2o2b2o10bo3b3o$10bo36b6o10b4o3bo$42b2o3b2o
2b2o15bobo$41bo2bo20b2ob2o$42b2o21b2o$20bo4bo42b2o$18b2ob4ob2o41bo$20b
o4bo42bo$49b2o17b2o$50bo$47b3o$47bo11b2o5b2o$58bo2bo4bobo$54b2o3bobo6b
o$50b2obobo4bo7b2o$51bobo9b2o$50bo2b2o8bo$51b2o11b3o$53b2o11bo$46bo6b
o$47bo6bo$45b3o5b2o!
guntrue_945 reduced below 3000 (3080 -> 2769)

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x = 70, y = 36, rule = B3/S23
12b2o3bo2bo3b2o22bo2bob2obo2bo$12b5o4b5o4b2o16b4ob2ob4o$12b2o3bo2bo3b
2o4b2o16bo2bob2obo2bo2$28b4o$28bo2bo31b2o$50b3o9bobo$49bo3b2o8bo$3b2o
3bo23b2o20bo$2bob4o2bo21b2obo13bob2o$2bobob4o13b2o10b3o16b2o$b2obobo15b
o2bo9b2o$o4b2obo6b2o4b2o2bo6b4o$b3o3b3o4bo2b2o2b2obobo5b3o$2bob2o4bo2b
o4b2o2bobo8bo$4bobob2o4b2o2b3o33b2o$b4obobo10bo2bo3bobo25b2o$o2b4obo5b
o5b7o$2bo3b2o5bo2bo3bo2b3o4bo5b2o20bo$14bobo14bo2bo2bo18b3o$9b2o5b2o2b
o7b3o3b3o18bo$8bobo9bo7b2o25b2o$8bo13b2obo8b2obob2o$7b2o10bo15bob2obo
23b2o$12b2o21bo28bobo$13bo7b2o11b2o30bo$10b3o45bo7bob2o$10bo47b3o2b2o
bobo$59b2o2b2obobo$58bo7bob2o$47b2o10bo3b4o2bo$46bobo10bo3bo3b2o$46bo
18b2o$45b2o5bo13bo$51bo12bo$51b3o10b2o!
Currently working to improve Life's guns and work on updating SKOPs and Isotropic rules most similar to B3/S23 to Life standards. Will get software to begin searches eventually.

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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by ElijahKen » August 18th, 2025, 5:58 pm

WhiteHawk wrote:
August 18th, 2025, 1:25 pm
guntrue_525 reduced (3710 -> 3672) EDIT: Optimized PD location

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x = 71, y = 48, rule = B3/S23
12bo2b2o4b2o2bo$11bo3b3o2b3o3bo3b2o$12bo2b2o4b2o2bo4b2o10b2o6b2o$41bo
2bo4bo2bo$28b4o8b6o2b6o$28bo2bo9bo2bo4bo2bo$42b2o6b2o2$3b2ob2o24b3o$2b
o29b2obo9bo2bo$2bobo3b2o13b2o12bo5b3o2b3o$b2obo4bo11b2o2bo7bo3bo4bo2b
o2bo2bo$o3b3ob2o5b3o6b3o5bo3bo6b2o4b2o$b3o3b3o4b7o3bo10bo7b2o4b2o$b2o
b3o3bo2bobo6bo2bo6b3o$bo4bob2o4bo5b2obo$b2o3bobo5b2o2bo3bobob2o$8bo10b
2o5b2o$3b2ob2o5b2o5bo5bo9b2o19bo$16bo7bo6bo2bo2bo17b3o$9b2o4b3o10bobo
3b3o17bo$8bobo10bo6bobo23b2o$8bo25b2obo$7b2o26bob3o$12b2o21bo4bo25b2o
$13bo20b2o3b2o25bo$10b3o34b2o2b2o10bo3b3o$10bo36b6o10b4o3bo$42b2o3b2o
2b2o15bobo$41bo2bo20b2ob2o$42b2o21b2o$20bo4bo42b2o$18b2ob4ob2o41bo$20b
o4bo42bo$49b2o17b2o$50bo$47b3o$47bo11b2o5b2o$58bo2bo4bobo$54b2o3bobo6b
o$50b2obobo4bo7b2o$51bobo9b2o$50bo2b2o8bo$51b2o11b3o$53b2o11bo$46bo6b
o$47bo6bo$45b3o5b2o!
Made smaller, by replacing the p1 quinti-snark with a p15 version (2982):

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x = 71, y = 42, rule = B3/S23
69b2o$69b2o$15b2o6b2o$14bo2bo4bo2bo$13b6o2b6o4b2o$14bo2bo4bo2bo5b2o$
15b2o6b2o19b8o$29b4o11bob4obo$29bo2bo11b8o2$20b2o$4b2o3bo9bob2o7b2o$3b
ob4o2bo6b2ob2o6bo2bo11bo6bo$3bobob4o9bo9bobo13bo2bo$2b2obobo11bo11bo
14bo2bo$bo4b2obo9b2o25bo2bo$2b3o3b3o8b2o23bo6bo$3bob2o4bo$5bobob2o$2b
4obobo15b3o$bo2b4obo14bo3bo$3bo3b2o15b2ob2o8b2o19bo$35bo2bo17b3o$10b2o
23b3o17bo$9bobo43b2o8b3o$9bo25b2obo26b3o$8b2o26bob3o25bo$13b2o21bo4bo
24bo$14bo20b2o3b2o24bo$11b3o37bobo4bo6bobo$11bo40b2o3bobo$43b2o7bo4bob
o$42bo2bo12bo6bobo$43b2o21bo$18bo2bo4bo2bo36bo$16b3o2b6o2b3o34bo$18bo
2bo4bo2bo35b3o$55b2o8b3o$55bo$38bo17b3o$2o37bo19bo$2o35b3o18b2o!
EDIT:
ElijahKen wrote:
February 8th, 2025, 8:59 pm
One column shaved off gun_123 by using a different type of p3 eater found by JLS.

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x = 52, y = 51, rule = B3/S23
6b2o13bo6bo$3bobo2bo11bob2o3bobob2o$3b2o2b2o11b2ob5obob2o$b2o21bo2bobo
$obob7ob2o3b3o4bo2bob6o$bo2bo5bobo4bo2bo4bo2bo3bo2bo$bo2bob2o4bo3bo3bo
8bobo2b2o$3b2obobo3b2o2bobob2o7bo$2o6bo8b2ob2o$2b2obo2b3o7b3o11bo$11bo
18b3o$2obo6b2o17bo$2o16b2o10bo$b2o14bo2bo6b4o$b2o12bo5bo5bo5b2o$b2o11b
obo3bo8bobo2bo$14bo3bo9b2ob2o$15b2obo$17b2obo$9b2o7b2obo6b2o$9b2o8b2o
8bo$28bo$29b3o7bo$16b3o12bo6bobo$38bobo$5b2o30b2ob2o$6bo37bob2o$6bobo
9b3o16b2ob5obo$7b2o28b2obo6b3o$43b4o2bo$16b2o8b2o15bo2bo$15bob2o7b2o$
16bob2o$18bob2o16bo$4b2ob2o9bo3bo15bo9b2o$2bo2bobo8bo3bobo15bo9bobo$2b
2o5bo5bo5bo28bo$6b4o6bo2bo30b2o$6bo10b2o$7bo17b2o11b2o$4b3o18bo13bo$4b
o11b3o7b3o7b3o$15b2ob2o8bo7bo$7bo7b2obobo2b2o$b2o2bobo8bo3bo3bo26bo$bo
2bo3bo2bo4bo2bo4bob2o21bobo$2b6obo2bo4b3o3b2ob2o22b2o$7bobo2bo$4b2obob
5ob2o$4b2obobo3b2obo$8bo6bo!
This improvement failed to get to several other 123n guns.

123 * 7 = gun_861 (4182 -> 4131):

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x = 81, y = 51, rule = B3/S23
6b2o13b2o5bo$3bobo2bo11bo2bobobobob2o$3b2o2b2o11b2o3bobobob2o$b2o24bob
o$obob7ob2o10b4ob6o$3obo5bobo15bo6bo$2bobob2o4bo5bo9b3o3b2o36bo$5obobo
3b2o3b3o10bo39b2o4b2o$bo3bo2bo8bob2o49b2o2b2ob3o$b2o5b3o21bo38bo8bo$bo
b2o6bo18b3o43b2obo$3o7b2o17bo41bobo3bobo$16b2o12bo40bob2o$18b2o7b4o39b
o8bo$o2bo10bo4bo7bo5b2o31bo4b3ob2o2b2o$b2o12b2obobo8bobo2bo31b3o4b2o4b
2o$16bobob2o6b2ob2o36bo8bo$17b2obo47b2o$19b3o$9b2o24b2o3bo$9b2o24b2o2b
obo$13bo25bobo$12bo4bo10b2o5b4obo3bo9bo$13b2o2bo10bobo3bo3bo5b3o5b3o$
17bo12bo2bobo3bo7bo3bo$5b2o23b2o2bobo3bo5b2o3b2o27bo$6bo12bo15bo3b2o
37bobo$6bobo10bo2b2o55b2o$7b2o10bo4bo23b3o$23bo24bo2bo$26b2o19bo3bo$
26b2o19b4o$15b3o30bo$16bob2o$4b2ob2o6b2obobo30b2o22bo$2bo2bobo8bobob2o
28b3o21bobo$2b2o5bo7bo4bo27bo2bo20bobo$6b4o7b2o30bo25bo$6bo12b2o27bo$
7bo17b2o21bo4bo$4b3o18bo11b2o27b2o$4bo21b3o7bobo11bo2bo4bo7b2o7b2o$16b
2obo8bo7bo13b2o6b3o14b2o$6bo10b3o3b2o10b2o24bo$b2o3b3o9bo5bo35b2o$bo6b
o15bob2o$2b6ob4o10b2ob2o$7bobo$4b2obobobo3b2o$4b2obobobobo2bo$8bo5b2o!
123 * 9 = gun_1107 (4144 -> 4088):

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x = 73, y = 56, rule = B3/S23
56b2o$56b2o2$59bo$59bo$8bo5b2o44bo$4b2obobobobo2bo42b2o$4b2obobobo3b2o
42bo2bo$7bobo49bo2bo$2b6ob4o10b2ob2o32bobo$bo6bo15bob2o22b3o$b2o3b3o
15bo$6bo16b2o23b2o2bo$28bo17b2ob3o19b2o$4bo21b3o10b2o30b2o$4b3o18bo14b
o2b2o$7bo17b2o12bo3b2o19b3ob2o$6bo32b2o22bo2b2o$6b4o10bo$2b2o5bo10bo
42b3o$2bo2bobo12bo32bobo$4b2ob2o7b3o18bo3b2o10bo2bo$16b3o3b3o10b2ob2ob
2o10bo2bo$18bo15bo7bo12b2o$16b2o8b2o7bo6b2o11bo$13b3obo8b2o9b2o2b2o13b
o$12b2ob2o4bo15b2o2b2o13bo$7b2o4bobo4bobo$6bobo10bo3bo34b2o$6bo13bobo
35b2o$5b2o8bo5bo$14bobo$13bo3bo13bo$14bobo4bobo5b3o$15bo4b2ob2o3bo$9b
2o8bob3o5bo$9b2o8b2o7b2o$18bo$12b3o3b3o$18b3o7b2ob2o$b2o13bo12bobo2bo$
o2bo12bo10bo5b2o$16bo10b4o$30bo$3o7b2o17bo$bob2o6bo18b3o$b2o5b3o21bo$b
o3bo2bo$5obobo3b2o16bo41bo$2bobob2o4bo15b3o3b2o34bobo$3obo5bobo15bo6bo
35b2o$obob7ob2o10b4ob6o$b2o24bobo$3b2o2b2o11b2o3bobobob2o$3bobo2bo11bo
2bobobobob2o$6b2o13b2o5bo!
123 * 11 = gun_1353 (5183 -> 5037):

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x = 73, y = 69, rule = B3/S23
56b2o$55bo2bo12b2o$56b2o13bo$43b2o24bobo$39b2o3bo24b2o$39bo2bo21bo$37b
2o2b3o19bobo$36bo2b2o23bo$36bobo2b3o25b2o$34b2obob2o2bo25bobo$34bo2bo
3b2o28bo$35b2ob2o31b2o$36bobo$36bo2bo$37b2o24b2o$58b2o4bo$58b2o3bo$37b
o24bo$35b3o20b5obo$28b2o4bo14bo8bo4bobo$28bo5b2o12bobo9bo2bobo$26bobo
19bobo8b2o3bo$26b2ob2o18bo$29bo23b2o$26b2obo23bobo$27bob2o24bo$27bo27b
2o$25bobo6bo$23b3ob2o4b3o$22bo9bobobo2b2o$23b3ob2o10bobo$25bob2o12bo$
41b2o$5b2o26bo$4bobo7b2o$4bo9bo$b2ob2o3b2o5bo$b2obo5bo4b2o5b2o$4bob2o
2bob2o8bo$b4o6bobob2o2b2obo$o5bo6bo2bo2bobo19b2o$b4o8b2o15b2o9bo3b2o$
4b2o24b2o7bobo3b2o$4b2o33b2o$b3o39b4o$23bo19bo2bo$o21b3o7b3o$obo18b2ob
2o5bo3bo$b2o17b3o2bo5bo3bo$21b2o3b2o3bo3bo$16b3o3bobobobo3b3o$15bo3bo
3b2o3b2o$15bo3bo5bo2b3o17b2o$15bo3bo5b2ob2o18bobo21bo$16b3o7b3o21bo19b
obo$4bo2bo19bo22b2o19b2o$4b4o$10b2o$4b2o3bobo7b2o$4bo4bo9b2o15b2o$b2ob
o2b3o17b2o5bo2bo$obobobo21bo5b2obobo$o3bob2o17b3o9b2obo$bo2bo3bo16bo8b
2o4bo$2bob6o24bo5b2o$b2o6b3o24bo$3bobo5bo2b2o19b2o$3bo5bob2ob2o$4b2obo
bobo!
123 * 13 = gun_1599 (4641 -> 4560):

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x = 90, y = 51, rule = B3/S23
6b2o13b2o5bo$3bobo2bo11bo2bobobobob2o$3b2o2b2o11b2o3bobobob2o$b2o24bob
o$obob7ob2o10b4ob6o$3obo5bobo15bo6bo$2bobob2o4bo15b3o3b2o$5obobo3b2o
16bo$bo3bo2bo75bo$b2o5b3o21bo49b5o$bob2o6bo18b3o48bo5bo$3o7b2o17bo40b
2o10b3o2bo$21bo8bo40bo13bob2o$22b2o3b4o40bob2o9b2o3bo$o2bo23bo5b2o31bo
5bo10bo2bobo$b2o26bobo2bo31b3o7bo5b2ob2ob2o$18bo9b2ob2o36bo7bo4bo$17b
3o48b2o4bobo5b2ob2ob2o$16bob2o63bo2bobo$15b2o2b2o14b2o3bo43b2o3bo$16b
4o15b2o2bobo43bob2o$17b3o19bobo40b3o2bo$28b2o5b4obo3bo9bo26bo5bo$28bob
o3bo3bo5b3o5b3o27b5o$30bo2bobo3bo7bo3bo32bo$5b2o23b2o2bobo3bo5b2o3b2o$
6bo28bo3b2o$6bobo$7b2o$17b3o$17b4o$16b2o2b2o37bo$17b2obo37bo2bo$17b3o
37b2o3bo$4b2ob2o9bo41bobo12bo13bo$2bo2bobo44b2o2bo4b2o11bobo10bobo$2b
2o5bo42b2o3b2o15bobo11b2o$6b4o3b2o60bo$6bo8bo$7bo17b2o$4b3o18bo11b2o
27b2o$4bo21b3o7bobo11b2o6bo7b2o7b2o$28bo7bo13b2o6b3o14b2o$6bo16b2o10b
2o24bo$b2o3b3o15bo35b2o$bo6bo15bob2o$2b6ob4o10b2ob2o$7bobo$4b2obobobo
3b2o$4b2obobobobo2bo$8bo5b2o!
And one other I found along the way:
123 * 10 = gun_1230 (3402 -> 3150):

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x = 60, y = 47, rule = B3/S23
34bo$34b3o20b3o$32b2o3bo19b3o$31bo3b2obo19bo$31bo4bobo19bo$32bobobob2o
18bo$32bo3bo20bobo$33b2obo$33b2ob2o$57bobo$2o56bo$bo56bo$bobo13bo40bo$
2b2o12bobo3b3o16b2o14b3o$16bobo2b3o17bo15b3o$14b2obobobobo15bobo$13bob
o3b3o17b2o$13b2o28b2o$19b2o23bo$18b3o23bobo$17bo2bo24b2o$17b3o30bo$40b
o8bobo$20b2o7b2o10bo7bobo$19bobo7b2o8b3o8bo$19b2o$23b2o$23b2o$5b2o$5b
2o3$5b3o$2o2bob2o$2o2b2o35b2o12b2o$4b2o34bobo12bobo$40bo16bo$39b2o7b2o
7b2o$48b2o6$43bo2bob2obo2bo$43b4ob2ob4o$43bo2bob2obo2bo!
Submitted to Catagolue.
Edit2: Here is the p3 eater on its own (A fishhook eater would stick out one more column to the left):

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x = 10, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
3bo2bo$3b4o$b2o6bo$obob6o$3obo$2bobob2o$5obobo$bo3bo2bo$b2o5b2o$bob2o$
3o3$o2bo$b2o2$3b3o$3bo$4bo!
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » August 18th, 2025, 8:27 pm

ElijahKen wrote:
August 18th, 2025, 5:58 pm
Edit2: Here is the p3 eater on its own (A fishhook eater would stick out one more column to the left):

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x = 10, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
3bo2bo$3b4o$b2o6bo$obob6o$3obo$2bobob2o$5obobo$bo3bo2bo$b2o5b2o$bob2o$
3o3$o2bo$b2o2$3b3o$3bo$4bo!
This particular p3 eater was already in my sparker stamp collection in this form:

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x = 16, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
bo2bo3bob2o$o3b5obobo$o3bobob5o$bo3bo2bo4b2o$5bo2b5o2bo$7bo4bobo$8b2o
3bo$9bo$9bobo$10b2o!
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by WhiteHawk » August 18th, 2025, 8:30 pm

ElijahKen wrote:
August 18th, 2025, 5:58 pm

123 * 9 = gun_1107 (4144 -> 4088):
Not that it matters, but population reduction using stable eater

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x = 73, y = 56, rule = B3/S23
56b2o$56b2o2$59bo$13bo45bo$13b3o44bo$16bo42b2o$15b2o42bo2bo$59bo2bo$23b
2ob2o32bobo$24bob2o22b3o$24bo$23b2o23b2o2bo$28bo17b2ob3o19b2o$4bo21b3o
10b2o30b2o$4b3o18bo14bo2b2o$7bo17b2o12bo3b2o19b3ob2o$6bo32b2o22bo2b2o
$6b4o10bo$2b2o5bo10bo42b3o$2bo2bobo12bo32bobo$4b2ob2o7b3o18bo3b2o10bo
2bo$16b3o3b3o10b2ob2ob2o10bo2bo$18bo15bo7bo12b2o$16b2o8b2o7bo6b2o11bo
$13b3obo8b2o9b2o2b2o13bo$12b2ob2o4bo15b2o2b2o13bo$7b2o4bobo4bobo$6bob
o10bo3bo34b2o$6bo13bobo35b2o$5b2o8bo5bo$14bobo$13bo3bo13bo$14bobo4bob
o5b3o$15bo4b2ob2o3bo$9b2o8bob3o5bo$9b2o8b2o7b2o$18bo$12b3o3b3o$18b3o7b
2ob2o$b2o13bo12bobo2bo$o2bo12bo10bo5b2o$16bo10b4o$30bo$3o7b2o17bo$bob
2o6bo18b3o$b2o5b3o21bo$bo3bo2bo$5obobo3b2o16bo41bo$2bobob2o4bo15b3o3b
2o34bobo$3obo5bobo15bo6bo35b2o$obob7ob2o10b4ob6o$b2o24bobo$3b2o2b2o11b
2o3bobobob2o$3bobo2bo11bo2bobobobob2o$6b2o13b2o5bo!
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by ElijahKen » September 1st, 2025, 11:26 am

Gun_1230 reduced again (2838 -> 2772):

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x = 66, y = 42, rule = B3/S23
36b2o6b2o$32bo3b2o5bo2bo$31bobobo2bo3bo2bobo$32bobobo2bobo3bobo$32bobo
bo2b5obob2o$35bo4bo2bobobo2bo$32b2obob6o2bo3b2o$33bob2o5bo3bo$18b2o13b
o4b4o3b2o$2o15bo16b3obo$bo16b2o16bo2bo$bobo33b2o$2b2o18b2ob2o14b2o$22b
o3bo14bo$16b3o20bobo$16bo2bo2bobo14b2o$16bo2bo3bo$17b3o4$21bo31bo$20bo
8b2o20b3o$19bobo7b2o19bo$19b2o29b2o9bo$23b2o8bo26b3o$23b2o8b3o$36bo$5b
o2bo26b2o23b3o$5bo47bo$4bo4bo42bobo5bobo$3bobo2b2o28b2o12bobo5bobo$b2o
bo32bo2bo12bo$38b2o20b3o2$bo2bo$3b2o12b8o35b3o$17bob4obo25b2o9bo$17b8o
25bo$33bo17b3o$34bo19bo9b2o$32b3o18b2o9b2o!
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by WhiteHawk » September 1st, 2025, 2:22 pm

ElijahKen wrote:
September 1st, 2025, 11:26 am
Gun_1230 reduced again (2838 -> 2772):
Reduced with better PD placement (2772 -> 2706)

EDIT: No it wasn't
Last edited by WhiteHawk on September 1st, 2025, 5:16 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by ElijahKen » September 1st, 2025, 3:13 pm

WhiteHawk wrote:
September 1st, 2025, 2:22 pm
Reduced with better PD placement (2772 -> 2706)

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x = 66, y = 41, rule = B3/S23
36b2o6b2o$32bo3b2o5bo2bo$31bobobo2bo3bo2bobo$32bobobo2bobo3bobo$32bob
obo2b5obob2o$35bo4bo2bobobo2bo$32b2obob6o2bo3b2o$33bob2o5bo3bo$18b2o13b
o4b4o3b2o$2o15bo16b3obo$bo16b2o16bo2bo$bobo33b2o$2b2o18b2ob2o14b2o$22b
o3bo14bo$16b3o20bobo$16bo2bo2bobo14b2o$16bo2bo3bo$17b3o4$21bo31bo$20b
o8b2o20b3o$19bobo7b2o19bo$19b2o29b2o9bo$23b2o8bo26b3o$23b2o8b3o$36bo$
5bo2bo26b2o23b3o$5bo47bo$4bo4bo42bobo5bobo$3bobo2b2o28b2o12bobo5bobo$
b2obo32bo2bo12bo$14b2o6b2o14b2o20b3o$12bo4bo2bo4bo$bo2bo7bo4bo2bo4bo$
3b2o7bo4bo2bo4bo34b3o$14b2o6b2o26b2o9bo$50bo$51b3o10b2o$53bo10b2o!
Not quite. The quinti-snark's spark sticks down below the eater, which is why I changed it to an integral. It is a fairly common thing to see.

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x = 66, y = 42, rule = LifeHistory
36.2A6.2A$32.AB.B2AB4.A2.A$24.3B4.A.ABA2.A3.A.BA.A$23.4B3.2BABA.A2BA.
A2B.A.A$17.4B.8B.BABABA2B5A.A.2A$14.16B2.2B.A.B2.A2.A.A.A2.A$13.17B2.
2A.A.6A2BA3.2A$13.15B5.A.2A5.A3.A$12.16B5.A4.4A3.2A$2A5.2B3.17B5.3A.A
$.A5.3B2.18B6.A2.A$.A.AB.4B3.18B6.2A$2.2AB.3BAB.20B9.2A$4.5B2AB.20B8.
A$4.7BA22B4.BA.A$4.B2A3BA26B.B2A$5.2A32B$5.13B3A18B$7.B2A8BA2BA4B2.11B
$7.2A10B3A5B.11B$8.BA10B2A4B4.B2.2B.4B$9.7B2A9B2.3B5.4B12.A$10.6BA3BA
6B.B2AB6.4B9.3A$11.6B4A6B2.2A8.4B7.A10.B$11.15B14.4B6.2A8.3B$9.9BA7B7.
A7.4B.6B8.BAB$9.10B2A4B8.3A6.8B9.B3AB$9.8B.4B14.A6.10B6.5A$5.A2BA3.4B
19.2A5.B.10B4.7B$4.BA3B3.3B20.18BAB3.7B$4.A4BA27.15BABA11B$2.BA.A.B2A
26.2B2A12BABA.10B$.2ABA3.B26.3B2A13BA4.7B$.3B16.2B13.3B2A4B2.7B5.7B$.
4B13.6B9.9B4.7B6.5A$.A2BAB10.10B7.8B6.3B9.B3AB$3.2A9.BA2BAB2ABA2BAB4.
8B7.5B8.BAB$13.2B4AB2AB4A2B4.7B10.2A8.3B$14.BA2BAB2ABA2BAB6.2AB2A2B9.
A10.B$16.10B8.A4BA11.3A$18.6B10.A4BA14.A9.2A$20.2D14.2C15.2C9.2C!
Edit: Gun_1330 reduced with a p10 corner dot sparker to replace a CC semi-snark (6806 -> 6478):

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x = 82, y = 79, rule = B3/S23
16b2o11bo$16b2o10bobo$28bobo2b2o3bo$27b2ob2o2bo2bobo$31bobo3bobo$27b2o
bo2b4obo$27b2obobo3bo$31bobo3bo15b2o4b2o$32bobo3bo14bobobo2bo$33bo3b2o
12bobobob3o$47b2o2b2o2bo$47b2o6b3o$58bo$24b2o31b2o$24b2o55bo$9b2o68b3o
$3bo4bo2bo66bo$2bobo2bob2o67b2o$2bobo2bo$b2obob2o$2bobo16b2o$bo2bob2o
13bo$bobo2b2o14b3o$2ob2o19bo10b2o$bobo30bobo$bobo30bo$2ob2o28b2o$bo$bo
b2o15b2o19b2o$2bobo15bo21bo$18bobo18b3o$18b2o19bo7b2o$47b2o3$65b2o$65b
2o4$62b2o$33bo28b2o$33b3o$36bo$35b2o$50b2o$50bo$47b2obo$3bo42bo2bo$2bo
bo42b2o$3bo$38bo17b2o$9b2o26b2o17bobo$5b2o2bo2bo24bo11b2o7bo$4bobo3b2o
bo19b2o3bo11bo3b4o$4bo8bo5b2o3bo7b2o14bo4bo3bobo$3b2o8b2o4bo3bobo7b3o
12b2o4bo3bobo$20bo3bobo7bobo9b2o3b2obo5bo$21bo3bobob2o4bo9bo2b2o4bo4b
2ob2o$19bob4o2bob2o8bo5b2ob2obo2bo3bobo2bo$18bobo3bobo10b2o6bo2b2o4bo
2b2obobo$18bobo2bo2b2ob2o7b2o6b2o3b2obobo2bo2b2o$19bo3b2o2bobo18b2o3bo
b2o2bobo$27bobo12bob4o2b2obo6b2o$28bo11b3obo2bo2bob2o$39bo3bo$40b3o$
37b3o3b3o$37bo2bobo2bo$39b2ob2o$35bo11bo$34b4o7b4o$33bo3bo7bo3bo$34b2o
2bo5bo2b2o$36b3o5b3o$34b2o11b2o$35bob2o5b2obo$35bo2bo5bo2bo$36b2o7b2o!
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by WhiteHawk » September 3rd, 2025, 10:48 pm

p176 gun that finally outdoes the wrongly-calculated p176 gun from the era of the BB calculation glitch which still plagues Catagolue's results ("1260" -> 1247)

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x = 41, y = 29, rule = B3/S23
14bo$14b3o$10bo6bo$10b3o3b2o$4bo8bo$4b3o5b2o10bo$7bo15bobo$6b2o10b2o4b
o$14b3o$10bob2o2bo4bo$9b5o4bo2bo$9b2ob4o2bo2bo$2o9b2o5b2o$bo11b2ob2o5b
2o$bobo9bobobo5bobo$2b2o21bo$14b3o8b2o2b2o$29b2o2$9b2o$9b2o24b2o$2bo26b
3o3b2obo$bobo25b3o7bo$2bo10b2o14b2o5bo$13bo23bob2o$9b2o3b3o14bo7b2o$9b
o6bo9bo3bobo$10b3o14bo3bo$12bo12b3o!
Same BB, larger population (though Rob's p16 is better far more often than standard figure eight)

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x = 42, y = 29, rule = B3/S23
14bo$14b3o$10bo6bo$10b3o3b2o$4bo8bo$4b3o5b2o10bo$7bo15bobo$6b2o10b2o4b
o$14b3o$10bob2o2bo4bo$9b5o4bo2bo$9b2ob4o2bo2bo$2o9b2o5b2o$bo11b2ob2o5b
2o$bobo9bobobo5bobo$2b2o21bo$14b3o8b2o2b2o9bo$29b2o8bobo$35bo$9b2o24b
o2bo2bo$9b2o23bob2o$2bo26b3o6b2o$bobo25b3o3b2o2bo$2bo10b2o14b2o4b2o3b
2o$13bo23bo$9b2o3b3o14bo7b3o$9bo6bo9bo3bobo$10b3o14bo3bo$12bo12b3o!
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by iNoMed » September 4th, 2025, 4:59 am

Here's a reduction of the period-390 glider gun from 46x40 (1840-cell BB) to 41x40 (1640-cell BB), achieved by finally figuring out a suitable period-6 domino sparker (that doesn't interfere with a nearby pentadecathlon!) does in fact exist, resulting in the successful replacement of a queen-bee shuttle pair domino sparker:

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x = 41, y = 38, rule = B3/S23
18bo$17b3o$16b5o6$30bo$16b5o8bobo$17b3o9bobo4b2ob2o$18bo9b2ob2o4bobo$
27bo5bobobo2bo$28b5ob7o$6b2o19b2o$7bo22bo2bo2b3o$7bobo20bo6bobo$8b2o
12b2o6bob4o3bo$3bo17bo2bo3b2obo4b3o$3b3o15b2ob2o3bobob2obo$6bo16bo5bo
2bob2o$5b2o4bobo16b2o$12b2o$12bo17b2o$7b3o18bo4bo$27bo6bo$26bo8bo$7b3o
16bo8bo$26bo8bo$2bo11bo12bo6bo$bobo9bobo12bo4bo$bo2bob2ob2obo2bo14b2o$
2obobobobobobob2o$bo2b2obobob2o2bo$bo4b2ob2o4bo$2b3o7b3o$4bob2ob2obo$
5bobobobo!

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x = 35, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
4b2o3b2o3bo3b2ob2o3b2ob2o$2o2bobo3bo2bobobobobobobobobobo$obobo2bo2bob
o2bobo2bo2bobo3bobo$2bobo3bobobobo2bo5bobo3bobob2o$b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2o3b
2ob2o3b2ob2o!

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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by WhiteHawk » September 4th, 2025, 5:03 pm

guntrue_295 reduced by a column (2520 -> 2478)

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x = 59, y = 42, rule = B3/S23
48b2o$48b2o2$7b2o5b2o2b2ob2o$7bo2b2obo2bo2bob2o32b2o$8b2obob2ob2obo34b
o2bo$4b2o3bobo2bobo2bob2o9b2o20b2obo$bo2bo2bo2bob3obob2o2bo10bo23b2o$
b3o2b2obo3bo2b2o2b2o11bobo18b2o2bo$4b2o2b5o5b3o13b2o17bo2b2o$3bo2bo2b
6o4b2o31bob2o$4b2o7b2o32bo5bo2b2o$46bobo6bo2bo$41b2o3bobo7b2o$2o8b2o35b
2o$obo7b2o7b2o2bo23b3o$2bo16bo3b3o22bobo$2bobo12bobo6bo$3b2o4b2o6b2o6b
2o21bobo$8bo2bo17bo19bo$8bo2bo17b2o$9b2o18b2o8bo12b2o$23b2o5b2o6bobo11b
2o$22bo3b5o7bo2bo$23b8o5b5o$24b5o6bob2o6b2o$34b2o9bo$27b2o3b2obob2o8b
o$9bo17bo2b6ob2o3b2o2b2o$8bobo9b2o5bo2b3o3bo5bo2bo$8bobo9bobo5bo2b5o8b
2o$9bo10bo12bo$13b2o$13bobo$15bo2b2o$15bobobo7bo10b2o$14b2obo8bobo9b2o
$17bo4b2obobo$17b2o2bobobobobo$9bo11bo4bobobo$10bo11b3obobobo$8b3o13b
2o3bo!
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by WhiteHawk » September 6th, 2025, 4:20 pm

iNoMed wrote:
September 4th, 2025, 4:59 am
Here's a reduction of the period-390 glider gun from 46x40 (1840-cell BB) to 41x40 (1640-cell BB), achieved by finally figuring out a suitable period-6 domino sparker (that doesn't interfere with a nearby pentadecathlon!) does in fact exist, resulting in the successful replacement of a queen-bee shuttle pair domino sparker:
guntrue_1170 reduced (2926 -> 2499)

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x = 49, y = 50, rule = B3/S23
18bo$17b3o$16bobobo$16bobobo$17b3o$18bo3$18bo$17b3o10bo$16bobobo8bobo
$16bobobo8bobo4b2ob2o$17b3o8b2ob2o4bobo$18bo16bobo2bo$27b5ob4ob3o$6b2o
13bo9bo$7bo13bo4bo3b4ob4o$7bobo6b3obobo9bo4bobo$8b2o5bo2bo2b3o2bo3bob
4o3bo$3bo10b5obo3bo2bobobo4b3o$3b3o7b2obo4bo7bobob2obo$6bo7bobo4bobo5b
o2bob2o$5b2o8b2o4b3o6b2o$21b3o$8bo$7bobo$6bo3bo15b2o6b2o$6bo3bo14bo2b
o4bo2bo$7bobo15bo2bo4bo2bo$8bo16bo2bo4bo2bo$2bo11bo11b2o6b2o$bobobobo
bobobobo$bobobobobobobobo21bo$2obo3bobo3bob2o18b3o$bo2b2obobob2o2bo18b
o$bo4b2ob2o4bo18b2o$2b3o7b3o$4bob2ob2obo30b2o$5bobobobo31bobo$45bo$37b
o7bob2o$37b3o2b2obobo$38b2o2b2obobo$37bo7bob2o$26b2o10bo3b4o2bo$25bob
o10bo3bo3b2o$25bo18b2o$24b2o5bo13bo$30bo12bo$30b3o10b2o!
guntrue_1950 also reduced (3243 -> 2907)

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x = 49, y = 56, rule = B3/S23
17b3o$17b3o$18bo$18bo$18bo$17bobo3$17bobo$18bo11bo$18bo10bobo$18bo10b
obo4b2ob2o$17b3o8b2ob2o4bobo$17b3o7bo5bobo4bo$29b7ob4o$6b2o19b2o3b3o$
7bo21bo6b3o$7bobo12b3o4b2obo2bobobo$8b2o10bob3o5bob4o3bo$3bo15bo8b2ob
o4b3o$3b3o12b2o9bobob2obo$6bo12b2o8bo2bob2o$5b2o13bo9b2o2$8bo$8bo$8bo
$8bo16bo2bob2obo2bo$8bo15b2o2bo4bo2b2o$8bo16bo2bob2obo2bo$2bo11bo$bob
o9bobo$bob5ob5obo$2obo3bobo3bob2o20bo$bo2b2obobob2o2bo19b3o$bo4b2ob2o
4bo18bo$2b3o7b3o19b2o$4bob2ob2obo4bo$5bobobobo5b3o25bo$20bo23b3o$19b2o
22b2ob2o$37bo4b3ob3o$36bobo3b3ob3o$22b2o12bobo3b3ob3o$21bo2bo12bo4b3o
b3o$22b2o19b2ob2o$44b3o$45bo2$34b2o$3b8o23bo$3bob4obo24b3o$3b8o26bo$19b
o$20bo$18b3o!
EDIT: Proof that the somewhat despised chucklebait variant can sometimes be useful -> guntrue_610 reduced by a column
(4488 -> 4422)

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x = 66, y = 67, rule = B3/S23
5bo2bobo3bo$5b5obobobo2b2ob2o$11bobo2bo2bob2o$5b7ob2ob2obo$4bo4bobo2b
obo2bob2o$5b3o4bo3bob2o2bo$7bobo3bobobo2bo$8b5o6b2o$13b2o4bo$14bo3$2o
8b2o14bo$obo7b2o7b2o4bobo$2bo16bo6bo$2bobo12bobo$3b2o12b2o5b5o4b2o$23b
o4bo5bo$22bo2bo8bob2ob2obo$19bo2bob2o9bobobob2o$18bobobo5bo7bo$19bo2b
o4bobo$22b2o2bo2bo14b2o$27b2o15bo8bo$42bobo7bobo$18b2o22b2o8bob3o$9bo
8bobo28b2obo4bo$8bobo7bo30bobobobobo$8bobo40bobob2o$9bo40bobo$13b2o36b
o$13bobo19bo$15bo18b3o12bo$15b2o16b2ob2o10b3o9b2o$32b3ob3o8b2ob2o8b2o
$33b2ob2o8b3ob3o$34b3o10b2ob2o$35bo12b3o$24b2o23bo$23bobo7bo$23bo8bob
o$22b2o4b2obobo$27bobobobobo$27bo4bobobo$28b3obobobo4b2o$30b2o3bo4bob
o$40bo15b2o6b2o$39b2o14bo2bo2b2o2bo$29b2o24bobo4bobo$29b2o17bo7bo5bob
2o$42b2obobobo9b2obo$42bob2ob2obo8bo2bo$38b2o10bo5bo4bo$37bobo10b2o4b
5o$38bo$58bo$57bobo$58bo$34b2o$34b2o$39b2o$39bobo$41bo$26b2o13b2o$16b
o10bo$15bo8b3o6b2o$15b3o6bo8b2o!
EDIT 2: Another p30 reduction - guntrue_1800 (2562 -> 2491)

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x = 47, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
4b2o2b2ob2o10bo9bo$2b3obo2bobobo7bo4b2o3b3o$bo4b2obobobo2bo4bo5bo2bo$
bob3o3b5obobo2bo2bob2o3b2o$2bo3b2o2bo2bobo2b4o$3bo5b3o3bo4bo17b2o$7bo
b2o2b4o2bo15b2o2bo$2bo2bo4bo3b2o13bobo3bob2o$2b4ob4obo3b2obo7bob2o3bo
$6bo6bobo3bo6b5o3bo$4bobo2b3obobob2o7bo2bo5bob2o$4b2o4bobo3bo9bobo6b2o
2bo$8bo8bobo6bobo9b2o$8b2o8b2o2$12b2o12bo$11b3o12bobo$10bob2o12b2o$9b
obo$9bo2bo$10b2o$4b2o28b3o$3bobo21b3o3bo3bo$3bo23b3o2bo5bo$2obo$bobob
2o20bobobo7bo$bobob2o20bobobo7bo$2obo7b2o$o2b4o3bo2bo7b2o4b3o2bo5bo$b
2o3bo4b2o8bobo3b3o3bo3bo$3b2o18bo10b3o$3bo19b2o$5bo$4b2o2$11bo23bo$6b
3ob2o2b2o17b3o$6b4o4b2o16bo$10b2o20b2o2$41b2o$41bobo$43bo$35bo7bob2o$
35b3o2b2obobo$36b2o2b2obobo$35bo7bob2o$24b2o10bo3b4o2bo$23bobo10bo3bo
3b2o$23bo18b2o$22b2o5bo13bo$28bo12bo$28b3o10b2o!
guntrue_590 by the reduction in my last post (3312 -> 3266)

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x = 71, y = 46, rule = B3/S23
7b2ob2o2b2o5b2o39bo$7b2obo2bo2bob2o2bo38bobo$10bob2ob2obob2o39bob3o$7b
2obo2bobo8b2o32b2obo4bo$7bo2b2obob4obobo2bo2bo29bobobobobo$10bo2bobo2b
2ob3o2b3o31bobob2o$10b4ob2o7b2o22b2o9bobo$10b3ob3o6bo2bo21b2o10bo$24b
2o2$51b4o14b2o$18b2o34bo2b2o10b2o$9b2o7b2o7b2o2bo19bo4bobo$10bo16bo3b
3o8b2obo6bo4b2o$10bobo12bobo6bo7bob2o$11b2o4b2o6b2o6b2o$16bobo$16b2o19b
o19bo$35b2ob2o7bo9bobo3bobo$32bob3ob2o6bobo8bobo3bobo$30b2ob6o7bo2bo13b
obo$32bo14b2o$41bo2bo$43b3o$40b3o2bo15b2o$17bo16b3o5b2obo4b2obo7bo$16b
obo17bo2bo4bo5bob2o8b3o$16bobo9b3o7b6o20bo$17bo10bo9b2obo$21b2o6bo$4b
o16bobo$3bobo17bo2b2o$3bobo17bobobo7bo10b2o$2obob2o15b2obo8bobo9b2o$o
b2o3bo17bo4b2obobo$4b5o16b2o2bobobobobo$4bo24bo4bob2o$5b2ob4o18b3obo$
6bobob2o20bobo$b2obo3bo24bo$bob2obob2o$5bobo4bo$5bobob4o$6b2obo$10b3o
$12bo!
Currently working to improve Life's guns and work on updating SKOPs and Isotropic rules most similar to B3/S23 to Life standards. Will get software to begin searches eventually.

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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by hotdogPi » September 7th, 2025, 9:36 am

hotdogPi wrote:
June 13th, 2022, 7:49 am
Statistics for pseudo-period guns:

Today:
Harmonic mean of all sizes from period 14-199: 3499 cells
Geometric mean: 3992 cells

6/25/21 (p21 was not discovered yet, but I believe the p57 R-pentomino hassler was):
Harmonic mean: 3951 cells
Geometric mean: 4398 cells

Halved in size or more, ordered by greatest ratio first: 21, (huge gap), 54, 27, 55, 32, (medium-large gap), 28, 63, 14, 56, 42, 48, 165, 117, 108, 162, 16, 972, 324, 594, 336, 495, 351, 825, 112, 168, 110

367 periods were reduced (of which only nine were primes above the syringe threshold); 619 stayed the same

Of the two top ten lists, only p30, 120, and 104 are in both lists without a reduction

Today, there are 22 2-digit guns that are larger than the largest 3-digit gun. On 6/25/21, it was 30; this is a valid comparison as the largest 3-digit gun hasn't changed.
Update, since we now have exactly 3,000 gun periods from 14 to 9999:

Today:
Harmonic mean of all sizes from period 14-999: 2877 cells (this was also supposed to say 999 in 2022 but I made a typo)
Geometric mean: 3439 cells

Reduced to 1/5 size or smaller since 6/25/21 ordered by greatest ratio first: 21, 16, (huge gap), 25, 43, 54, 32, 27, 14, 42, 55, 63, 34, 51, 28, 70, 59, 35, 68, 40, 560

565 periods were reduced (198 hadn't been yet at the time of the above quote but are now); 421 stayed the same. Of the 152 primes above the syringe threshold, 34 have been reduced.

Of the two top ten lists of now and 6/25/21, only p30 is in both lists without a reduction; p120 is ranked 11th.

Today, there are 4 2-digit guns that are larger than the largest 3-digit gun: 31, 17, 19, and 29. 41 is smaller than only 983 and 991.

Guns where the bounding box is a multiple of the period, smallest to largest: 16, 552, 1680, 1840, 357, 2952, 770, 77, 26, 41, and 19. The guns on this list with an equal period and bounding box are the three four-digit guns and no others.

The ten smallest 4-digit guns are 1344, 1040, 2496, 1656, 2070, 1564, 3128, 1560, 1008, and 1920. The smallest odd-period 4-digit gun is 1125, ranked 136th among 4-digit guns. Of the 100 smallest 4-digit guns, 31 are multiples of 64, 27 are multiples of 30, and 25 are multiples of 46.
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Periods discovered:

All evens ≤128 except 52,58,78,82,92,94,98,104,118,122

5-15,㉕-㉛,㉟㊺,51,63,65,73,75
1㊳㊵㊹㊼㊽,54,56,72,74,80,90,92
217,240,300,486,576

Guns: 20,21,32,54,55,57,114,117,124,126
SKOPs: 32,74,76,102,196

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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by WhiteHawk » September 7th, 2025, 10:48 am

hotdogPi wrote:
September 7th, 2025, 9:36 am

Update, since we now have exactly 3,000 gun periods from 14 to 9999:
Do you have stats on guns/guntrues which are in catagolue in erroneous forms? (e.g. incorrectly calculated envelope from the BB glitch era, pointless densification, etc. - perhaps also including "wrong" chucklebait or similar unnecessarily large sl supports)
Currently working to improve Life's guns and work on updating SKOPs and Isotropic rules most similar to B3/S23 to Life standards. Will get software to begin searches eventually.

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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by hotdogPi » September 7th, 2025, 11:06 am

WhiteHawk wrote:
September 7th, 2025, 10:48 am
hotdogPi wrote:
September 7th, 2025, 9:36 am

Update, since we now have exactly 3,000 gun periods from 14 to 9999:
Do you have stats on guns/guntrues which are in catagolue in erroneous forms? (e.g. incorrectly calculated envelope from the BB glitch era, pointless densification, etc. - perhaps also including "wrong" chucklebait or similar unnecessarily large sl supports)
Unfortunately not; all I have is the textcensus (which only lists period and bounding box) and an archive of the same thing excluding 4-digit periods from 6/25/2021.
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Periods discovered:

All evens ≤128 except 52,58,78,82,92,94,98,104,118,122

5-15,㉕-㉛,㉟㊺,51,63,65,73,75
1㊳㊵㊹㊼㊽,54,56,72,74,80,90,92
217,240,300,486,576

Guns: 20,21,32,54,55,57,114,117,124,126
SKOPs: 32,74,76,102,196

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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by PK22 » September 7th, 2025, 12:01 pm

WhiteHawk wrote:
September 7th, 2025, 10:48 am
Do you have stats on guns/guntrues which are in catagolue in erroneous forms? (e.g. incorrectly calculated envelope from the BB glitch era, pointless densification, etc. - perhaps also including "wrong" chucklebait or similar unnecessarily large sl supports)
Here is a basic scraper script which can download gun/guntrues and analyse them:

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import lifelib
import requests
print('Setting up lifetree...')
sess = lifelib.load_rules('b3s23history')
lt = sess.lifetree(n_layers=6, memory = 1000)
erroneous = []
dense = []
def analysegun(period, true):
    if true:
        print('Downloading guntrue_'+str(period))
        c = requests.get('https://catagolue.hatsya.com/textsamples/guntrue_'+str(period)+'/b3s23/synthesis')

    else:
        print('Downloading gun_'+str(period))
        c = requests.get('https://catagolue.hatsya.com/textsamples/gun_'+str(period)+'/b3s23/synthesis')
    response = c.text
    if response.count('null') == 0:
        gun = lt.pattern(response)
        boundingbox = gun.bounding_box
        claimedarea = int(response[response.index('costs'):response.index('cells')].replace('costs', '').replace(' ', ''))
        actualarea = boundingbox[2] * boundingbox[3]
        if claimedarea != actualarea:
            erroneous.append(period)
        print('Claimed area: '+str(claimedarea))
        print('Actual area: '+str(actualarea))
        gun = gun.replace('B!', '!')
        print('Gun population: '+str(gun.population))
        density = gun.population / actualarea
        print('Density: '+str(density))
        if density > 0.2:
            dense.append(period)




for x in range(1000):
    analysegun(14+x, True)
print('Erroneous bounding boxes:')
print(erroneous)
print('Over-densified periods:')
print(dense)
It checks for two things: whether the bounding box is correct, and how dense the gun is (after removing state-2 LifeHistory cells). Checking density > 0.2 leads to some false positives, and will miss some, but running for all guntrue periods up to 1013 revealed that guntrue_660 is over-densified:

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#CSYNTH guntrue_660 costs 1886 cells.
#C period 660 fullperiod 660 bbox 46 by 41
#CLL state-numbering golly
x = 46, y = 41, rule = LifeHistory
2A.2A.A4.2A10.A7.2A7.A3.2A$2A.A.4A.A.A9.A.A2.2A.A.A5.3A3.2A$9.2A5.
2A4.A.A2.2A.A6.A$7.A4.A2.A.3A3.A6.BAB4.2A5.2A$.A4.A.8A4.A6.3ABA3B.
3B4.A.A$A.A3.A9.ABA.A6.A.BAB.2B2A6.2A$.A2.2A.8ABA2B.2AB5.B6A2BA$5.
A.A2.B2.B.B2.2A2.AB5.B4A3BA$3.ABA.2A.2B3AB2.2B3AB7.2B3.A$2.B2AB2A
2.B3A4B.3BA2B4.3B8.A.A$3.2A.2A4.B2.B3A3BA3B.4B9.2A.A$14.BA.BA3BA9B
11.A$15.2A.A2.BAB.8B5.5A.2A$.A14.A.A.2A3.8B4.AB3.A.A$A.A13.A.A.A5.
8B3.A2B2AB.A$.A3.A5.B2A3.A2.A6.4B2A2B3.3BA2.2A$4.A.A4.3AB3.2A5.5B
5A3.A2B.2A$.A3.A4.A.2AB9.5BA3B2A3B2.2A.A$A.A6.A.A.2B8.7B2A2BA3B3.A
.A.A$.A7.A2.A2.2B5.9B3A3B4.A2.2A$10.2A3.3B3.4B2.5B3AB4.2A$4.2A9.3B
.5B5.5BA$3.A.A8.9B4.5B12.B$3.A8.B.8B5.2A7.B6.3A$2A.AB.B3.11B7.A6.
3A6.B$.A.A.2AB.12B4.3A8.B4.B$.A.A.2A14B4.A14.3A$2A.A2.5B2A8B12.2A
6.B$A2.4A3BA2BA5B.B2A8.A4BA7.B$.2A2.BAB.2B2A6B.BA.A5.BA6BAB4.3A$3.
2A6.7B5.A3.2BA8BA2B3.B$3.A7.2B.4B5.2A.3BA8BA3B$.2A2.A.A7.4B8.2BA8B
A2B$A2.3A.3A6.4B9.BA6BAB$.2A3.A3.A6.4B10.A4BA5.A$2.A2.A2.A2.A.2A3.
4B11.2A6.BAB$A4.A.2A.2A.A5.4B7.3B2.3B4.A$6A.A2.A2.A2.A3.4B4.2B2AB
2AB2A2B$7.A2.A2.A.A.A3.3BAB.3B2A4B2A3B$2A2.A.A4.2A2.A.A4.3BA4B2AB
2AB2A2B4.2A$2A2.2A9.2A6.3A3B.2B4.2B6.2A!
I probably won't run the script for all gun and guntrue periods up to 10000, but someone else can do so if they are interested.
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by ElijahKen » September 8th, 2025, 7:14 pm

I created a simple program (with the help of Google Gemini) to graph all guns and their sizes. Here is one large and simple reduction from that:
Gun_5428 (11765 -> 3082) (8683 reduction):

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x = 67, y = 46, rule = B3/S23
35bo$b2o33b2o$b2o31b2o$11bo24bo$11b2o$2o7bob3o11b2o$2o11b2o10b2o11bo$
12b2o23bobo$12bo24bobo$38bo$12bo$12b2o$2o11b2o$2o7bob3o20bo14bo8b2o$
11b2o22bo5b2o5bobo4bo3bo$11bo20bo2bobo3b2o6bo3bo2bo2bobo$b2o29b3ob3o
14bo2bo3bobo$b2o35b2o14bo6bo3b2o$14b2o49b2o$14b2o$31b2o17b2o$31b2o8b2o
5b2obo$6bo34bob2o3b2o$5bobo35b2o3b2obo$6bo34bob2o5b2o8b2o$41b2o17b2o2$
26b2o$9b2o15b2o3bo6bo14b2o$9b2o19bobo3bo2bo14b3ob3o$4b2o25bobo2bo2bo3b
o6b2o3bobo2bo$3bobo27bo3bo4bobo5b2o5bo$3bo29b2o8bo14bo$2b2o13b2o$17bo$
10b2o6b3o$10b2o8bo33bo$53bobo$53bobo$54bo3$56bo$37bo19b2o$38bo16b2o$
36b3o18bo!
Old version:

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#C [[ GRID MAXGRIDSIZE 14 THEME Catagolue ]]
#CSYNTH gun_5428 costs 11765 cells.
#C period 5428 fullperiod 5428 bbox 181 by 65
#CLL state-numbering golly
x = 181, y = 65, rule = LifeHistory
27.A83.2A20.2A$25.3A82.A.A20.A.A$24.A79.2A4.A24.A4.2A$24.2A54.2A
20.A2.A2.2A.4A16.4A.2A2.A2.A$20.6B54.A.A19.2A.A.A.A.A2.A16.A2.A.A.
A.A.2A$7.A11.5B58.A4.2A16.A.ABABAB20.BABABA.A$7.3A8.7B53.4A.2A2.A
2.A14.A.AB2AB22.B2ABA.A$10.A6.9B52.A2.A.A.A.A.2A15.AB.2B24.2B.BA$
9.2A6.9B54.BABABA.A21.3B22.3B7.A$9.5B2.13B29.2A21.B2ABA.A21.4B6.2A
4.2A6.4B7.3A$11.18B.2B25.A.A22.2B.BA20.3B2AB6.A6.A6.B2A3B8.A$10.2A
19B2A18.2A4.A23.3B23.3B2AB3.BA.A6.A.AB3.B2A3B7.A.A$10.2A17B.B2A16.
A2.A2.2A.4A10.2A6.4B21.10B.B2A8.2AB.10B5.A.AB$11.B.17B.B17.2A.A.A.
A.A2.A11.A6.B2A3B18.13B12.13B5.A3B$13.16B23.A.ABABAB13.A.AB3.B2A3B
17.14B12.14B6.4B$14.14B24.A.AB2AB15.2AB.10B14.15B12.15B5.6B$15.8B
2.4B24.AB.2B18.13B12.4B2.8B16.8B2.4B4.7B$16.7B3.4B26.3B17.14B10.4B
5.6B16.6B5.4B2.8B.4B.B$13.11B3.4B25.4B6.2A8.15B8.4B4.9B14.9B4.17B.
B2A$12.12B4.4B22.3B2AB6.A11.8B2.4B6.4B5.2A4.4B12.4B4.2A5.18B2A$3.
2A7.12B5.4B21.3B2AB3.BA.A11.6B5.4B4.4B7.A5.4B10.4B5.A6.16B.2B$2.A
2.A2.2A2.11B7.4B18.10B.B2A11.9B4.4B2.4B5.3A7.4B8.4B7.3A3.16B$3.2A
2.A.A2.8B.4B6.4B16.13B12.4B4.2A5.8B6.A10.4B6.4B10.A3.15B$5.2A.B3.
7B4.2A7.4B14.14B11.4B5.A7.6B19.4B4.4B11.A.2AB.12B$5.A2.2B2.7B4.A9.
4B12.15B10.4B7.3A5.4B21.4B2.4B10.2A.A.AB2.11B$2.2A.A.BA2B.6B6.3A7.
4B10.4B2.8B11.4B10.A4.6B21.8B11.A2.A5.10B$2.A.2A.A.A8B8.A8.4B8.4B
5.6B10.4B15.8B21.6B14.2A5.2B2A6B$6.A.A.8B18.4B6.4B4.9B8.4B15.4B2.
4B21.4B21.3B2A6B$3.2A2.A4.5B20.4B4.4B5.2A4.4B6.4B15.4B4.4B19.6B21.
10B$.3A.2A4.6B21.4B2.4B7.A5.4B4.4B15.4B6.4B10.A6.8B20.8B.B2A.A$A4.
B6.6B21.8B5.3A7.4B2.4B15.4B8.4B7.3A5.4B2.4B18.7B3.B2AB3A$.3AB2AB3.
7B22.6B6.A10.8B15.4B10.4B5.A7.4B4.4B17.6B6.B4.A$3.A.2AB.8B24.4B19.
6B4.A10.4B12.4B4.2A5.4B6.4B17.6B4.2A.3A$7.10B23.6B19.4B5.3A7.4B14.
9B4.4B8.2B2A16.5B4.A2.2A$7.6B2A3B21.8B10.A6.6B7.A5.4B16.6B5.4B10.B
ABA14.8B.A.A$7.6B2A2B5.2A14.4B2.4B7.3A5.8B5.2A4.4B17.8B2.4B12.A3B
4.A8.8BA.A.3A$7.10B5.A2.A11.4B4.4B5.A7.4B2.4B4.9B16.15B14.4B3.3A6.
6B.2BAB.A2.A$6.11B2.BA.A.2A10.4B6.4B4.2A5.4B4.4B5.6B17.14B16.4B5.A
4.7B2.2B2.A.A.A$6.12B.B2A.A11.4B8.9B4.4B6.4B2.8B17.13B18.4B3.2A4.
7B3.B.2A2.A.A$5.15B3.A10.4B10.6B5.4B8.15B13.2AB.10B20.4B2.4B.8B2.A
.A2.A.A.A$4.16B3.3A7.4B11.8B2.4B10.14B12.A.AB3.B2A3B23.4B3.11B2.2A
2.2A.2A$.2B.16B6.A5.4B10.15B12.13B12.A6.B2A3B24.4B.12B$2A18B5.2A4.
4B11.14B14.10B.B2A9.2A6.4B27.16B$2AB.17B4.9B12.13B17.3B2AB3.BA.A
17.3B28.14B10.A3.2A$.B.4B.8B2.4B5.6B11.2AB.10B18.3B2AB6.A18.2B.BA
26.10B11.3A4.A$8.7B4.4B2.8B10.A.AB3.B2A3B22.4B6.2A16.B2ABA.A24.12B
9.A5.A5.2A$9.6B5.15B8.A6.B2A3B22.3B24.BABABA.A23.16B6.2A4.2A5.A$
11.4B6.14B7.2A6.4B21.AB.2B23.A2.A.A.A.A.2A13.A6.24B7.3B.A.2A$13.3B
A5.13B16.3B20.A.AB2AB22.4A.2A2.A2.A13.3A3.23B6.2A2B2A.A2.A$14.BA.A
5.10B.B2A15.2B.BA17.A.ABABAB25.A4.2A18.A2.24B4.B2A2B.A.2A$15.A.A7.
3B2AB3.BA.A13.B2ABA.A13.2A.A.A.A.A2.A21.A.A23.A.B.24B5.4B.A$16.A8.
3B2AB6.A12.BABABA.A13.A2.A2.2A.4A21.2A24.2A27B3.4B.2A$17.3A7.4B6.
2A9.A2.A.A.A.A.2A12.2A4.A49.2A2.A22B.6BA3B8.2A$19.A7.3B18.4A.2A2.A
2.A18.A.A46.A2.3A3B3.2B3.B7.2B3.4BABA2B8.A.A$24.AB.2B23.A4.2A21.2A
47.A4.2B3.4B.3B5.BA2B3.4BA3B.B8.A$23.A.AB2AB20.A.A77.4A5.B2AB.B2AB
4.A.A5.9BAB3.B.BA.2A$23.A.ABABAB19.2A80.A7.2A3.2A6.A6.9B3A.B2A.A.A
$20.2A.A.A.A.A2.A101.A25.10B2A2B2A.A.A$20.A2.A2.2A.4A100.2A25.9BA
5B2.A.2A$22.2A4.A129.2AB.8BA3B4A2.A$28.A.A126.A.AB.8BAB.BAB2.2A$
29.2A126.A5.7B6.2A$156.2A5.A3B.2B7.A$162.A3B9.A$161.B3A10.2A!
And various other candidates for reduction (all non-prime):
2438 (46*53):

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#C [[ GRID MAXGRIDSIZE 14 THEME Catagolue ]]
#CSYNTH gun_2438 costs 12769 cells.
#C period 2438 fullperiod 2438 bbox 113 by 113
#CLL state-numbering golly
x = 113, y = 113, rule = LifeHistory
65.4B3.B.9B.B$65.4B.17B.B$64.2A12B4A5B3A$64.2A12BAB2A6B2A2.B.9B.B
3.4B$65.B.11BA8BA19B.4B$67.12B2A13BA2B2A12B2A$88.7B2ABA12B2A$67.
12B2A16BA12B.B$65.B.11BA7BA8B3A12B$64.2A12BAB2A4B4A$64.2A12B4A4B2A
7B3A12B$65.4B.27BA12B.B$37.2A5.2A19.4B3.B.12B2.A6B2ABA12B2A$35.2B
2AB3.B2A2B33.4B3.6BA2B2A12B2A$35.4B5.4B32.4B4.2A17B.4B$35.6B.6B31.
4B6.4B.9B.B3.4B$35.6B.6B30.4B7.2B$37.4B.4B31.4B7.4B$36.5B.5B29.4B
7.4B$36.5B.5B28.BA2B7.4B$35.6B.6B26.2A2B7.4B$36.5B.5B26.2B2A7.4B$
35.6B.6B24.4B7.4B$35.6B.6B23.4B7.4B$35.6B.6B22.4B7.4B$35.3BA2B.2BA
3B21.4B7.4B$35.2B3AB.B3A2B20.4B7.4B$35.BA3BA.A3BAB19.4B7.4B$35.BA
4B.4BAB18.4B7.4B$35.2B3AB.B3A2B17.4B7.4B$35.6B.6B16.4B7.4B$36.5B.
5B16.ABAB7.4B$35.6B.6B14.B2AB7.4B$36.5B.5B14.3BA7.4B36.B$36.5B.2A
3B13.4B7.4B36.2A$34.8BA4B12.4B7.4B36.ABA$33.AB.3B2.B2AB2AB10.4B7.
4B36.3BA$33.2A.B2AB2.BABA3B8.4B7.4B36.4B$37.2A4.BA.4B6.4B7.A3B36.
4B$43.A2B.4B3.5B7.B2AB36.4B$42.BAB3.10B7.BABA36.4B$41.2BA2B3.8B7.
4B36.4B$39.9B2.3B2A2B6.4B36.4B$39.6B3A2.2BABAB6.4B36.4B$38.9B3.2BA
3B5.4B36.4B$37.2AB.2BA2B3.2B2A4B3.4B36.4B$36.A.AB2.BAB3.4B2.4B.4B
36.4B$36.A6.A3.4B4.7B36.4B$35.2A9.4B6.5B36.4B$45.4B7.5B35.4B$44.4B
7.7B33.4B$43.4B7.4B.4B31.4B$42.4B7.4B3.4B29.4B$41.4B7.4B5.4B27.4B$
40.4B7.4B7.4B25.4B$39.4B7.4B9.4B23.4B$38.4B7.4B11.4B21.4B$37.4B7.
4B13.4B19.4B$36.4B7.4B15.4B10.A6.4B$35.4B7.4B17.4B7.3A5.4B$34.4B7.
4B19.4B5.A7.4B$33.4B7.A3B21.4B4.2A5.4B$32.4B7.B2AB23.9B4.4B$31.4B
7.BABA25.6B5.4B$30.4B7.4B26.8B2.4B$29.4B7.4B25.15B$28.4B7.4B26.14B
$27.4B7.4B27.13B$26.4B7.4B26.2AB.10B$25.4B7.4B26.A.AB3.4BA2B$24.4B
7.4B27.A5.4BABA2B$23.4B7.4B27.2A6.3BABA2B$22.4B7.4B36.4BAB$21.4B7.
4B38.5B$20.4B7.4B40.3B$19.4B7.4B40.5B$18.4B7.4B40.B2AB2A$17.4B7.4B
38.2A2.2A.AB2.2A$16.4B7.4B39.A2.B3.A.A2.A$15.4B7.4B41.7A.2A$14.4B
7.4B49.A$9.B3.4B7.4B45.4A.A$8.3B.4B7.4B46.A2.2A$8.3B.3B7.4B$2.2A2.
10B5.4B$A2BAB.11B3.4B$4B2.2B3A2B.4B.4B$5BA.A3BA3.7B$2A3BABA3BAB3.
5B$2.4B.2B2AB5.5B.B.3B.9B.B3.4B$.3BA3BA4B6.23B.4B$.12B4.12B3A14B2A
$13B3.13BA3BA12B2A$.5B.5B5.12BA4BA10B.B$2B2A2B.2B2A2B6.11BA3BA10B$
6B.6B6.3B.B.3B$BA4B.4BAB9.8BA3BA10B$BA3BA.A3BAB7.B.7BA4BA10B.B$BA
3BA.A3BAB6.2A8BA3BA12B2A$2BABAB.BABA2B6.2A8B3A14B2A$3BA2B.2BA3B7.
4B.17B.4B$6B.6B7.4B3.B.9B.B3.4B$6B.6B$.5B.5B$6B.6B$.5B.5B$.5B.5B$
2.4B.4B$6B.6B$6B.6B$4B5.4B$2B2AB3.B2A2B$2.2A5.2A!
1111 (11*101):

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#C [[ GRID MAXGRIDSIZE 14 THEME Catagolue ]]
#CSYNTH gun_1111 costs 9248 cells.
#C period 1111 fullperiod 1111 bbox 136 by 68
#CLL state-numbering golly
x = 136, y = 68, rule = LifeHistory
33.2A67.A11.A$25.2A5.A.A27.2A38.3A7.3A$25.A.A4.A29.A.A40.A5.A$27.A
2.2A.4A27.A4.2A33.2A5.2A15.A$26.2A.A.A.A2.A23.4A.2A2.A2.A31.5B3.B
13.3A$27.A.ABABAB25.A2.A.A.A.A.2A33.4B2.4B9.A$27.A.AB2AB28.BABABA.
A34.15B6.2A$28.AB.2B30.B2ABA.A33.17B2.5B$31.3B30.2B.BA33.23B$31.4B
6.2A20.3B36.22B2A$29.3B2AB6.A12.2A6.4B36.22B2A$29.3B2AB3.BA.A13.A
6.B2A3B32.2AB.19B.B$19.A7.10B.B2A14.A.AB3.B2A3B31.A.AB2.18B$17.3A
6.13B17.2AB.10B29.A6.16B$16.A8.14B19.13B27.2A6.15B$15.A.A6.15B19.
14B36.12B$14.BA.A5.4B2.8B21.15B35.15B$13.3BA5.4B5.6B23.8B2.4B34.
16B$11.4B6.4B4.9B22.6B5.4B32.4B.12B7.2A$9.6B5.4B5.2A4.4B20.9B4.4B
30.4B3.11B2.2A2.A2.A$8.7B4.4B7.A5.4B18.4B4.2A5.4B28.4B2.4B.8B2.A.A
2.2A$.B.4B.8B2.4B5.3A7.4B16.4B5.A7.4B26.4B3.2A4.7B3.B.2A$2AB.17B6.
A10.4B14.4B7.3A5.4B24.4B5.A4.7B2.2B2.A$2A18B19.4B12.4B10.A6.4B22.
4B3.3A6.6B.2BAB.A.2A$.2B.16B20.4B10.4B19.4B20.4B4.A8.8BA.A.2A.A$4.
16B21.4B8.4B21.4B18.4B14.8B.A.A$5.15B22.4B6.4B23.4B16.4B16.5B4.A2.
2A$6.12B.B2A21.4B4.4B25.4B14.4B17.6B4.2A.3A$6.11B2.BA.A21.4B2.4B
27.4B12.4B17.6B6.B4.A$7.10B5.A22.8B29.4B10.4B18.7B3.B2AB3A$7.6B2A
2B5.2A22.6B31.4B8.4B20.8B.B2A.A$7.6B2A3B29.4B33.4B6.4B21.10B$7.10B
29.6B33.4B4.4B21.3B2A6B$3.A.2AB.8B28.8B33.4B2.4B16.2A5.2B2A6B$.3AB
2AB3.7B26.4B2.4B33.8B18.A5.10B$A4.B6.6B25.4B4.4B33.6B19.A.AB2.11B$
.3A.2A4.6B25.4B6.4B33.4B21.2AB.12B$3.2A2.A4.5B24.4B8.4B31.6B22.15B
$6.A.A.8B22.4B10.4B29.8B21.16B$2.A.2A.A.A8B8.A9.B2.3AB12.4B27.4B2.
4B20.16B.2B$2.2A.A.BA2B.6B6.3A7.7BA14.4B25.4B4.4B19.18B2A$5.A2.2B
2.7B4.A8.8BA16.4B23.4B6.4B10.A6.17B.B2A$5.2A.B3.7B4.2A7.8B18.4B21.
4B8.4B7.3A5.4B2.8B.4B.B$3.2A2.A.A2.8B.4B6.8B20.4B19.4B10.4B5.A7.4B
4.7B$2.A2.A2.2A2.11B7.10B20.4B6.A10.4B12.4B4.2A5.4B5.6B$3.2A7.12B
6.9B22.4B5.3A7.4B14.9B4.4B6.4B$12.12B7.7B24.4B7.A5.4B16.6B5.4B5.A
3B$13.11B5.9B9.A15.4B5.2A4.4B17.8B2.4B5.A.AB$16.7B3.14B6.A.A15.4B
4.9B16.15B6.A.A$15.9B.16B5.A.A16.4B5.6B17.14B8.A$11.29B4.B2A.2A16.
4B2.8B17.13B6.3A$9.32B2.BA2.A2.A16.15B13.2AB.10B7.A$8.35BABA.A.A.A
16.14B12.A.AB3.B2A3B$8.36BA.A.A.A18.13B12.A6.B2A3B$8.37B.A.A21.10B
.B2A9.2A6.4B$6.2AB.30B2.2B.BAB.A22.3B2AB3.BA.A17.3B$5.A.AB3.27B6.
2B2AB22.3B2AB6.A18.2B.BA$5.A5.29B7.2B25.4B6.2A16.B2ABA.A$4.2A6.14B
.12B7.2B26.3B24.BABABA.A$13.12B4.9B7.B2AB22.AB.2B23.A2.A.A.A.2A$
13.4B.4B2AB6.7B8.2A22.A.AB2AB22.4A.2A2.A$14.2B3.3B2A6.9B31.A.ABABA
B25.A4.A.A$13.B2AB2.2B.B7.10B27.2A.A.A.A.A2.A21.A.A5.2A$14.2A6.2A
7.8B28.A2.A2.2A.4A21.2A$23.A8.8B29.2A4.A$22.A9.8BA34.A.A$22.2A10.
7BA34.2A$36.B2.3AB!
1961 (37*53):

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#C [[ GRID MAXGRIDSIZE 14 THEME Catagolue ]]
#CSYNTH gun_1961 costs 11830 cells.
#C period 1961 fullperiod 1961 bbox 130 by 91
#CLL state-numbering golly
x = 130, y = 91, rule = LifeHistory
35.2A$34.B2AB$34.4B$35.2B$33.2A3B$33.2A5B$20.2A11.8B$21.A6.2B5.6B
64.2A$21.A.AB2.6B.9B61.B2A2B$13.2A.A5.2AB.B.17B25.A34.4B$11.A2.A.
3A5.24B22.3A21.A11.4B3.3B$7.2A2.2A.A4.A3.27B23.A20.3A8.4B4.5B$4.2A
2.A5.A3.2A3.28B21.2A12.A10.A6.14B$5.A.A6.2A2.35B19.4B10.3A7.2AB5.
14B$4.A2.2A6.B4.35B5.7B.B5.3B12.A6.5B3.16B$4.A.A2.B.2B2.3B.31B.4B
5.13B.4B10.2A8.5B.16B$5.A.2A3B2A71B3.4B2A4.22B$7.A.B.B2A29B2.41B4.
2B2A4.23B$5.A2.A.21B2A8B4.41B2.7B2.24B4.3B$5.2A.A.21B2A6B6.17B2A
22B.7B3.24B.7B$8.2A2B2.24B8.16B2A31B2.23B.B2A5B$8.A2.AB3.21B10.B2.
19B3.2B2.19B.25BA2BA5B$9.2A.A8.14B15.2B3.B2.10B11.43B2A6B$11.A10.
12B17.AB6.6B16.48B$8.A.A10.12B17.A.A7.3B19.36B.6B.2B$8.2A10.11B19.
2A8.B20.35B2.8B.B$19.11B29.2A20.7B.26B4.6B.B2A$18.10B31.A19.2AB.3B
4.25B8.B3.A.A$17.4B3.B.B33.3A15.A.AB9.25B12.2A$16.4B3.3B36.A15.A
10.5B2.19B4.B$15.4B4.B2AB50.2A10.2A6.20B.B2A$4.A9.4B6.2A60.A3.A6.
22B2A$4.3A6.4B69.4A6.24B$7.A4.4B79.25B$6.2A3.4B8.2A61.2A6.24B$6.8B
8.A.A60.B2AB4.22B.B$2.2A4.5B5.2A2.A63.3B3.10B.12B$.A.BAB.5B6.A.A.
2A61.B.B3.8B5.11B$.A.2AB2.5B6.2A.A2.A58.14B9.7B$2A.B.B3.5B3.3B.B2.
2A56.15B9.8B5.2A$3.2A2B2.5B3.4B60.15B9.8B6.A$3A2.AB.13B.B56.16B11.
8B2.BA.A$A2.2ABA13B.B2A54.16B11.10B.B2A$.2A2.A5BA10B2A53.16B12.12B
$3.A2.4BABA7B.2B52.17B2.B10.12B$.2A3.4BABA7B54.23B6.2AB2.9B$.A5.4B
A7B54.6B2A17B4.A.AB2.8B$2.A6.9B3.2A48.8B2A16B5.A4.8B2.2B$.2A3.B.
10B.B2.A39.2A7.27B3.2A4.8B.4B$5.2A12B3A41.A6.28B8.14B$5.2AB.8B.BA
43.A.AB.28B10.11B2AB$6.B3.6B4.2A42.2AB.28B10.11B2A2B$11.4B6.A44.
24B2.B.B12.14B$12.4B4.A45.23B2.3B15.11B$13.4B3.2A44.23B2.B2AB13.
13B$14.4B49.21B4.2A13.14B$15.4B49.16B.B.B2A17.14B$16.4B49.16B2.BA.
A9.A7.13B$17.4B48.11B2.2B6.A9.3A3.14B$18.4B47.10B11.2A11.A2.9B$19.
4B47.9B23.A2.10B$20.4B47.7B19.2A3.2A11B$21.4B45.4B.B21.A2.2A2.11B$
22.4B43.4B25.2A2.2A10B$23.4B41.4B28.A.A.B.8B$24.4B14.2A23.4B29.A2.
A3.6B$25.4B9.2A3.A22.ABAB31.2A5.4B$26.4B8.A2.A4.2A17.B2AB28.2A8.4B
$27.4B8.4A2.B2AB2.2A11.3BA28.B2AB6.4B$28.4B11.B2.3B2.A.A.2A.A4.4B
29.4B5.4B$29.4B8.2A.2B.B5.A.A.2A3.4B31.2B5.4B$30.4B6.A.A7B2.B2A6.
4B23.2A7.4B2.4B$31.4B5.2A.8B2.2B5.4B24.A.A5.5B.4B$32.4B7.11B5.4B
26.A.14B$33.4B8.10B3.4B28.14B$34.4B7.11B.4B29.14B$35.4B6.15B30.15B
$36.4B3.16B30.3B2A12B$37.4B.6B2A8B31.3B2A13B$38.9BA2BA6B30.2AB.11B
2.4B$39.9B2A6B30.A.AB2.8B5.4B$39.16B31.A5.10B4.4B$39.4B2.6B.2B31.
2A5.B.B5.2A5.4B$37.2AB.B4.5B2.2B38.3B4.A7.4B$36.A.AB4.2BA3B2.B2AB
36.B2AB5.3A5.4B$36.A4.4BABA5.2A38.2A8.A6.4B$35.2A4.2A.A.A64.4B$40.
ABABA.A.A63.4B$40.A4.A.A.A.2A60.3BA$41.3A.A.A.2A.A61.3BA$43.A.2A
68.3AB!
And gun_5207 (41*127) has over-densification:

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#C [[ GRID MAXGRIDSIZE 14 THEME Catagolue ]]
#CSYNTH gun_5207 costs 12402 cells.
#C period 5207 fullperiod 5207 bbox 117 by 106
#CLL state-numbering golly
x = 117, y = 106, rule = LifeHistory
20.A5.2A9.2A2.A4.2A.A.2A9.A.A5.2A10.A18.2A$19.A.A4.A9.A.4A4.2A.2A
2.A8.2A.A4.2A9.A.A2.2A12.A.A6.2A$6.A.2A9.A2.A4.A8.A15.2A6.2A3.A16.
A.A2.A6.2A4.A7.A2.A3.A$2.2A2.2A.A10.A.A3.2A6.2A.7A15.A.A3.2A8.A7.A
3.A.A3.A2.A2.2A6.A2.A3.A.A$3.A6.2A4.2A3.A10.A2.A.A3.B2.A7.2A5.2A9.
2A2.A.A11.2A2.A2.A12.2A4.2A$2.A8.A3.A.A14.2A2.BA.2A2.2A7.A.A.A12.A
.A3.A.A15.2A7.A$2.A.A5.A5.A4.A14.2AB2AB6.2A5.2A11.A7.A.A9.2A11.A.A
$3.2A2.A.A3.A6.A.A6.A6.5B8.A17.A9.A11.A6.2A4.A.A6.2A$7.2A3.A.A6.A
5.3A7.3B7.A11.A7.2A2.2A9.2A4.A5.A2.A5.A6.A.A$2A11.A4.3A5.A9.5B6.5A
6.A.A11.A9.A.A3.A.A3.2A10.2A3.A$A.A.A13.A6.A.A8.BA4B9.A7.A.A10.A.A
8.A5.2A14.A2.A$3.2A3.2A16.A7.2BABA3B3.4AB10.A5.2A5.A.A22.A5.A2.A5.
A$8.A6.A5.2A4.3A4.2BABA4B2.A2.AB6.2A6.3A.A.A3.2A20.3A6.2A5.A.A$3.
2A4.3A2.A.A3.A2.A5.A5.2BA4B4.4B6.A.A4.A5.2A24.A17.A$3.A.A5.A3.2A2.
A2.A11.15B3.2A3.2A3.A.A21.A7.A.A13.3A$6.A13.2A11.14B2A.A2.A9.A22.
3A6.A9.2A3.A$7.A24.15B2A.2A14.2A10.2A9.A9.2A3.A.A$2A4.2A5.2A16.15B
.B13.A4.A2.2A4.A.A.A3.2A3.2A8.A.A3.A$A13.A7.A7.4B2.9B11.2A2.A.A4.
2A.A4.2A5.A.A10.A.A5.2A$.3A10.A.A4.A.A5.4B5.7B10.A2.A2.A.A17.A.A
11.2A6.A10.2A$3.A11.A.A2.A.A5.4B4.9B11.2A4.A.A7.2A6.A.A21.A8.A2.A$
7.2A7.A3.2A5.4B5.2A4.4B17.A.A6.A.A5.2A7.2A11.A.A9.A.A$7.A18.4B7.A
5.4B6.A10.2A9.A9.2A3.A11.2A5.2A4.A$2.2A4.A2.A13.4B5.3A7.4B4.A.A21.
A7.A.A3.A.2A16.A$3.A2.A.A2.3A10.4B6.A10.4B4.A.A19.2A6.A.A5.A.A4.2A
9.A$.A4.2A6.A8.4B19.4B4.2A11.2A10.2A3.A7.A5.A.A8.2A$.2A10.2A7.4B4.
2A10.2A3.4B15.A.A9.A2.A13.A3.2A$13.5B3.4B6.A5.2A3.A5.4B7.2A4.A.A6.
2A3.2A7.2A4.A.A15.2A$4.2A9.3B2.4B5.A7.2A4.A5.4B7.A4.2A4.A.A.A11.A.
A5.A.A14.A2.2A$3.A.A8.9B6.2A10.A.A6.4B5.A11.2A11.A.A9.A8.2A6.2A.A$
3.A8.B.8B19.2A8.4B5.3A17.A3.2A6.2A10.A.A$2A.AB.B3.11B11.A19.4B6.A
16.A.A9.B2AB9.2A$.A.A.2AB.12B8.A.A.A2.2A15.4B10.A3.A3.2A2.A.A9.3B
6.A$.A.A.2A14B6.3A.2A3.A.A15.4B7.3A2.A.A2.A2.2A.2A9.B.B4.A.A$2A.A
2.5B2A8B5.A11.A4.2A10.4B5.A5.A.A3.A.A2.B8.5B3.A.A$A2.4A3BA2BA5B.B
2A3.2A6.4A.2A2.A2.A9.7B.2A5.A.4A2.AB2A6.6B3.A8.2A3.2A$.2A2.BAB.2B
2A6B.BA.A10.A2.A.A.A.A.2A10.9B7.A3.A.A.2A4.8B2.2A7.A.A4.A$3.2A6.7B
5.A12.BABABA.A14.6B8.A2.BA.A2.13B11.A.A4.A$3.A7.2B.4B5.2A12.B2ABA.
A5.2A8.5B7.A.2BA.A5.13B8.A.A4.A$5.A9.4B19.2B.BA6.A.A6.7B6.2A.2BA5.
15B7.A6.2A$4.2A10.4B17.3B12.A.A4.6B10.3B4.15B6.2A10.A$17.4B7.2A6.
4B5.2A6.2A4.7B10.2B.B.17B16.A.A$9.2A7.4B7.A6.B2A3B3.A.A11.6B4.29B
8.2A6.2A$10.A8.4B6.A.AB3.B2A3B4.A.A10.7B2.16B2A13B6.A.A$9.A10.4B6.
2AB.10B3.2A10.7B2.16B2A14B4.A.A$3.2A.A.A12.4B7.13B13.9B.27B3.B2A3.
2A8.2A$3.A.2A.2A12.4B6.14B12.36B4.A2.A6.A6.A$13.2A8.4B5.15B6.B4.
20B2.2B2.B3.6B5.2A.A4.A.A2.3A$12.A.A9.4B6.8B2.4B4.2AB.19B14.6B7.A
5.A3.A$11.A13.4B5.6B5.4B3.2A19B14.9B6.2A$.2A7.A10.A4.4B3.9B4.4B3.B
.17B6.A8.2A4.4B$.A.A6.2A8.A.A4.4B.4B4.2A5.4B5.17B4.A.A8.A5.4B11.2A
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4A4.4B3.15B.B2A10.A4.2A4.4B7.A2.A$4.A.A9.A12.5B16.4B2.12B4.BA.A15.
A5.4B7.2A$2A3.A.A20.7B4.4A8.15B9.A14.A7.4B10.2A$A5.2A10.A8.4B.4B3.
A2.3A7.15B8.2A12.A9.4B9.A$2.A14.A.A6.4B3.4B8.A7.14B13.A8.2A9.4B10.
A$.2A13.A2.A5.4B5.4B6.A.A7.12B14.3A11.2A5.4B5.5A$8.A.2A4.A.A5.4B7.
4B5.A.AB7.10B6.2A.2A7.A11.A5.4B4.A$8.2A.A5.A5.4B9.4B5.A3B7.9B6.2A.
2A6.A.A10.A.AB.7B2.B3A$11.A.2A7.4B11.4B6.4B5.9B14.2A2.A3.A8.2AB.7B
3.2B.A$11.2A.A6.4B13.4B5.6B5.6B15.A6.A.A9.12B4A$3.2A15.4B15.4B4.7B
.2B2.5B13.A.A7.A.A8.7B2A3BAB2.2A$2.A.A2.2A10.4B8.2A7.4B2.8B.9B12.A
.A9.A3.A5.7B2A2B.B3A2.A$3.A4.A9.4B10.A8.24B12.A5.2A6.A.A4.10B3.B.A
.2A$6.A10.4B10.A10.24B7.2A8.A8.A4.8B8.A$6.5A5.4B5.2A4.2A9.19B2.4B
5.A2.A8.3A2.3A4.9B7.2A$.2A8.A4.4B5.A16.18B4.4B5.A2.A4.A4.A2.A5.4B
2.3B4.2A$.A6.3AB2.7B.BA.A16.16B7.4B5.2A4.A.A11.4B3.5B2.A$2.A4.A.2B
3.7B.B2A10.A4.2AB.13B9.4B9.A.A11.4B7.2A3.3A$.2A4.4A12B11.A.A2.A.AB
2.11B6.2A3.4B8.A12.4B8.A6.A$5.2A2.BA3B2A7B12.A3.A5.10B3.2A2.A.A3.
4B6.2A11.4B10.3A$4.A2.3AB.2B2A7B7.2A6.2A5.2B2A6B3.A4.2A4.4B10.A6.
4B13.A$4.2A.A.B3.10B7.A13.3B2A6B4.A10.4B7.3A5.4B4.2A13.2A$7.A8.8B
7.A13.10B3.2A7.A3.4B5.A7.4B5.A.A12.A$7.2A7.9B7.A5.A6.8B.B2A9.A.A3.
4B4.2A5.4B3.A3.A.A12.A$.2A14.3B2.4B5.2A5.3A3.7B3.B2AB2A6.2A5.9B4.
4B3.A.A3.A14.A$.A.A11.5B3.4B14.A2.6B6.B.A15.6B5.4B5.A.A9.A8.A$3.A
11.2A7.4B12.A4.6B4.2A3.A13.8B2.4B3.A3.2A8.A.A6.2A$3.2A11.A8.4B11.
2A3.8B.A2.4A6.A4.15B3.A.A12.2A$8.2A3.3A10.4B14.9BA.A.A8.A.A3.14B5.
A.A16.2A$3.2A3.A.A2.A13.4B4.A8.7B.2BAB.A.2A4.A.A4.13B3.A4.A5.A10.A
$3.A5.A7.A10.4B3.3A6.6B3.2B2.A.A4.A.A3.2AB.10B3.A.A3.2A3.A.A10.A$
4.A10.3A11.4B5.A4.7B4.B.2A2.A4.A3.A.AB3.B2A3B6.2A7.A.A.A10.A$5.A8.
A5.2A8.4B3.2A4.7B3.A.A2.A.A8.A6.B2A3B15.A2.2A9.2A$4.2A7.A.A4.2A9.
4B2.4B.8B3.2A2.A.A8.2A6.4B16.2A10.A6.2A$14.A10.A6.2B2A3.11B8.A18.
3B10.2A15.A.A5.A$24.A.A6.BABA.12B15.A12.2B.BA6.A2.A3.2A10.A4.A.A$
4.2A19.A8.A15B14.A.A10.B2ABA.A6.2A3.A2.A14.2A$4.A11.A.2A6.3A6.14B
10.A5.A.A8.BABABA.A12.2A7.2A3.A$5.A10.2A2.A7.A7.10B11.3A7.A6.A2.A.
A.A.A.2A17.A.A2.A.A$2.3A5.2A7.2A14.12B9.A10.2A5.4A.2A2.A2.A16.A.A
3.A2.A$2.A6.A.A22.16B6.2A20.A4.2A4.2A3.A.A2.2A2.2A5.A.A$9.2A16.A6.
24B18.A.A11.A2.A.2A3.A10.A$27.3A3.23B4.A8.2A5.2A11.A3.A5.A$3.2A10.
A14.A2.24B3.3A7.A17.A3.2A5.2A$A.A.A10.3A11.A.B.24B6.A5.A18.2A$2A7.
A.2A5.A3.2A5.2A27B4.2A6.3A13.2A21.2A3.2A$9.2A.A4.2A2.A.A3.2A2.A22B
.4B5.2A6.A4.2A8.A20.A.A2.A2.A$21.2A3.A2.3A3B3.2B3.B7.2B3.4B4.A.A
11.A3.A3.A7.A12.A.A4.2A$27.A4.2B3.4B.3B5.BA2B3.4B4.A.A8.A4.A.A2.A.
A3.3A3.2A2.2A4.A$2.2A5.2A5.2A10.4A5.B2AB.B2AB4.A.A5.4B4.A4.A4.2A2.
A2.A3.2A2.A6.2A2.A2.A$.A.A3.A2.A2.A.A.A3.2A7.A7.2A3.2A6.A7.3BA7.A.
A7.A.A8.2A11.2A6.2A$A.A4.2A4.2A6.A2.A7.A27.3BA6.A2.A7.A30.A.A$.A
21.2A6.2A28.3AB6.2A40.A!
EDIT:
Over-densification cured (plenty of room for optimization):
EDIT 2: THIS IS NOT ACTUALLY SMALLER. But, it might be possible to make it smaller.

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x = 147, y = 115, rule = B3/S23
120b2o$119bo2bob2obo5bo$119bob2obob2o3b3o$117bobo10bo$117b2obob2o6b2o
4b2o$120bob2o12bo$17b2o101bo13bobo$17b2o100b2o13b2o2$131b2o$130bo2bo$
10b2o118bobo$10b2o108bo10bo$22bo88b2o6bobo$21b3o88bo7b2o$20bo91bobo17b
2o$21b2o90b2o17bo2bobob2o$21bo111b3ob2obo$136bo$133b2obo$127b2o4bobo$
127bobo$129bo$4bo124b2o$4b3o$7bo$6b2o14b2o98bo$22b2o86bo10bobo$43bo66b
2o9bobo$43b3o63bobo10bo$46bo70b2o$45bobo68bobo$45bobo68bo$46bo68b2o4$
3b2o$2bo2bo2b2o51b2o$3b2o2bobo13b2o36b2o47b2o8bo$5b2o16bobo84b2o7bo$5b
o19bo20bobo70b3o$2b2obo2bo16b2o20b2o$2bob2obobo31b2o4bo54bo$6bobo31bob
o58bobo$3b2o2bo32bo61bo$b3ob2o32b2o7b2o$o47b2o$b3ob2o$3bob2o49b2obo45b
2o$56b2ob3o11b2o30b2o26b2o$62bo10b2o5b2o18b2o32bo$9b2o11b2o32b2ob3o18b
o18bobo30bo5b2o$7b2obo11bo32bo2b2o18bobo18bo32b2o5bo$7b2o11bobo31bobo
9bo11b2o18b2o13b2o24bob2o$7b2o11b2o14bo16bobob2obo4bobo24b2o19bo18b2o
2b2obo2bo$13bo22b3o14b2o2bob2o4bobo2bo21b2o13b2o5b3o15b2o3bob2o$4b2o4b
3o26bo13b2o2bo5b2o2b4o36b2o7bo20bo$b2o2bo4b2o26b2o14bob2o6bobo69b2o$o
5bo46bobo2b2o4bob2ob2o60bo$o5bo6b2o38b2o2bo2bo2b2o2bobo60bobo9b2o$bob
2obo51b2o5bobobobo59bo11bo$65b2o3b2o71bob2o$135b2o4b3o2bo$42b2o15b2o
74b2o3bo3b2o$16bo25bobo14bo80b4o$15bobo25b3o11bobo66b2o15bo$15bobo25bo
2bo10b2o4bo14b2o45bobo12b3o$16bo26bo3bo13b3o13bobo45bo13bo$17b3o22b2o
3bo12bo16bo46b2o14b5o$19bo22bo3b2o12b2o14b2o66bo$43b3o96bo$43b3o96b2o$
77b2o$76bo2bo2b2o$77b2o2bobo$79b2o16b2o$50b2o27bo17bo$43b2o4bobo5b2o
17b2obo2bo15b3o$43b2o4bo7b2o17bob2obobo16bo$48b2o30bobo$77b2o2bo$62bo
12b3ob2o$58b2obobo10bo$57bobobobo11b3ob2o$54bo2bobobobob2o10bob2o$54b
4ob2o2bo2bo$58bo4b2o22b2o$56bobo28b2o7b2o$56b2o38bo2bo$94bobob2o$94b2o
bo$97bo$97b3o$100bo$74b2o23b2o$74b2o2$106bo$105bobo$106bo3b2ob2o$90bo
19b2obo2bo29bo$89bobo23b2o27bobo$89bobo10b2o41b2o$90bo11b2o4bo2bo$91b
3o14b4o$93bo20bo$98bo11b5o$97bobob2o7bo$97bobobobo8bo$94b2obobobobo2bo
4b2o$94bo2bo2b2ob4o$96b2o4bo$102bobo$103b2o!
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by Period1GliderGun » September 27th, 2025, 5:11 pm

Alternative p80 gun design (936 cells vs 910)

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x = 36, y = 26, rule = B3/S23
29b2o$10b2o4b2o11b2o$10bobo2bobo$12bo2bo14bo$11bo4bo3bo9b2o$11bo4bo3b
3o6bo2b2o$6b2o3bo4bo6bo7bobo$13b2o7b2o9bo$5bo3bo$4bo4bo17bo$3bobobo18b
obo4b2o$2bobobo19bo2bo3b2o$o4bo8bo12b2o$o3bo7b3o$12bo$2b2o8b3o5$24b2o
9bo$24bo8bobo$9b2o14b3o6b2o$10bo16bo$7b3o$7bo!
A p4 version of 33p3.1 on the bottom or thinner sparkers would work to break the record.
Currently on another planet.

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x = 36, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
23bobo$21bo3bo$13bo7bo$12b4o4bo4bo8b2o$11b2obobo4bo12b2o$2o8b3obo2bo3b
o3bo$2o9b2obobo6bobo$12b4o$13bo!
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by WhiteHawk » September 27th, 2025, 5:23 pm

Sorry to steal your thunder P1GG, but completely unrelated reduction to Guntrue_1150 using the power of unnecessarily complex welding (3480 -> 3420) EDIT: or just the better tuck will do

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x = 60, y = 57, rule = B3/S23
5b2o5b2o17b2o$5b2o5b2o18bo$bo15bo3b2o9bob2ob2obo$obo13bobo2b2o10bobob
ob2o$2o15b2o15bo19b2o$19b4o31bo$19bo3bo19b2o7bobo$22b2o19bo4b2o2b2o$5b
o7bo27bobo4b2o$4bo2bo3bo2bo26b2o$8bobo12b2o7b2ob2o$8bobo12b2o7bo3bo10b
3o$8bobo22b3o10bo2bo$4bo2bo3bo2bo19bo11b2o2b2o$5b3o3b3o32bo2bobo$49bo
bo7bo$26b3o28b3o$25b5o13bo3bo2bo5bo$24b2ob3o13b2o2bo7bobo$25b2o16bo3b
o2bo5b2o2$b2o46bo6b2o$b2o2b2o39bo10bo$5b2o49bo$29b2obo5bob2o14b2o$18b
o6bo2bo3b2o3b2o3bo7b2o$19b2o4b4obo3bobo3bob3o5bo$11bo6b2o10bobobobobo
bo4bo5b3o$9b2ob2o13b4obobobobob4obo7bo$11bo15bo3b2obobob2o3bob2o$5b2o
21b2o3bo3bo3b2o$4bobo23b3o5b3o$4bo25bo9bo$3b2o$41bo6b2o$10b2o4bo22b3o
6bo$10b2o3bobo20bo7bobo$16bo21b2o5bobob2o$21bo23bobo2bo$21b3o22bobo$3b
2o2b2o15bo23b2o2b2o$3b2o2b2o14b2o23bo2bobo$41bo6b4o$40bobo5bo3bo$26b2o
12bobo5b5o$6b3o16bo2bo12bo5bobo$5b5o16b2o18bo4b2o$4bob3obo34bo3bobobo
$2b3o5b3o33bo6bo$bo3bo3bo3bo34b5o$bob3obob4o25b2o11bo$2bo3b3o29bo6bo3b
o3bo$4bobobob2obo25b3o4bo2b5o$3b2o2bo2bob2o27bo5b2o$4bobo2bo17bo21b2o
b2o$4bo2b2o19bo20b2ob2o$3b2o21b3o!
EDIT: Correction to earlier foolishness by me, reduction of guntrue_595 by 500 cells (4758 -> 4209)

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x = 59, y = 69, rule = B3/S23
2o4b2o12b2o$2o3b3o7b2o2bobo$2o2bo3bo6bo3bo$3o3b4obo4b3ob4o$o10bo6bobo
2bo$ob4o3b3o$3bo3bo2b2o$4b3o3b2o9b2o$4b2o4b2o9b2o2$37b2o4bo$28b2o6bob
o4bobo$15b2o7b2o5bo3b3o6bo2bo$14b2obo5bo9bob2o5bobob3o$7b2o3b3o2bo5bo
2b5o2bo2b2o3b4o3b2o$7b2o3b3ob3o3b3obo2bo3bo3b3obobo5b2o$13b2o16bo6bo2b
o6b3o$14b2o10bo4bo8bobo4bobo$26bo2b2o11bo4b2o$16bo10b2o$13bo$14bobo$16b
o2$54b2o$54bo$52bobo$8b2o42b2o$7bobo37bobo$7bo39bo2bo$6b2o39bo2bo$48b
2o$44bo$42b2o$43b2o2$55bo$21bo25b2o2b2obobo$20bob4o21b2obo3bo2bo$18b3o
b2obo25bo2b4o$17bo4bo4bo22b2obo$17bob3obo3bo21bobobob2obo$21bobo24bob
2obobob2o$17bo3bob3obo20bo3bobo$17bo4bo4bo19b2o3bo$19bob2ob3o24b2o$2b
2ob2o12b4obo$2b2ob2o16bo11bo$7b2o5bo20b3o$2b5o2bo4b3o21bo12b2o$2bo3bo
3bo6bo19b2o11bob3o$4bo11b2o32bo4bo$3b5o26bo7bo6b2ob3o$2bo6bo22b3o6bob
o5bo2bo$2bobobo3bo20bo9bo2bo4b2o$3b2o4bo21b2o9b2o5b2obo$6bobo40bo2bob
2o$3b5o5b2o3b2o29b2obo$3bo3bo5b2o2bo2bo7b2o20bobobobo$4b4o9bo2bo6bo2b
o19bob3o2bo$2bobo2bo10b2o8b2o21bo3b3o$2b2o2b2o44b3o$7bobo45bo$5bo2bob
o43b2o$5b2obobo5b2o3b2o$7bobo7bo3bo$7bo6b3o5b3o28bo$6b2o6bo9bo29bo$52b
3o!
Currently working to improve Life's guns and work on updating SKOPs and Isotropic rules most similar to B3/S23 to Life standards. Will get software to begin searches eventually.

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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by ElijahKen » October 1st, 2025, 10:19 pm

A few reductions to p43 * prime guns:
989 (7440 -> 7304):

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x = 88, y = 83, rule = B3/S23
30b2o$30bo2b2o$31bobo$18bo11b2o2bo$18b3o11bobo$21bo8b2obo$15bo4b2o9bo$
14bobo7bo4bobo$14bobo6bobo3b2o$11b2obobobo4bo2bo$11b2obo2b2o5b2o22b2o
18b2o$14bo24bo8bobo18bo14b2o$14b2o21b3o10bo18bobo12b2o$16bo19bo13b2o
18b2o$14b3o19b2o44b4o$13bo67bo3bo$13b2o67bo$80bobo$16b2o62b2o$16bo36b
2o29b2o$14bobo36b2o30bo$14b2o69bobo$86b2o2$17b2o23b2o$16bobo23b2o$16bo
$15b2o$41b2o$31b2o7bo2bo4b2o$2bo7b2o19bo8bo2bo4b2o$2b3o5bobob2o16bo8b
2o44bo$5bo6bobobo7bo6b2o24bobo25bobo$4b2o5bo2bo2bo5bobo31b2o27b2o$11b
2o2b2o7bo33bo$11b2o$12bo$2o9b4o$bo8bo3b2o7b2o26b2o$bobo12bo6b2o26bobo$
2b2o47bo$10b3o6b3o$10b3o6b3o$10b3o6b3o$28b2o$7b2o6bo12bobo$7b2o7b2o3bo
8bo$17b4o9b2o$19bo53b2o$19b2o4bo47bo$7bo7b2o2b2o5b2o26b2o19bo$6bobo5bo
2bo2bo4b2o28bo18b2o$7bo7bobobo35bobo14bo3b2o$16b2obobo34b2o14b4o2bo$
20b2o45b2o6bob2o$67b2o3b2obobo$72b2obobo$75bob2o$75bo$56b3o14bobo$23b
2o12bo10bo9bo14b2o$22bobo10bobo8b3o8bo$22bo13b2o7bo18b2o$21b2o22b2o17b
o$28b2o35b3o$29bo11bo25bo$26b3o11bo$26bo12b2o2bo2b2o$38b3obobob3o$39b
2o2bo2b2o$35b2o3bo5bo$34bobo4b5o$34bo7b3o$33b2o8bo2$47bo$43b2obobo$42b
obobobo$39bo2bobobobob2o$39b4ob2o2bo2bo$43bo4b2o$41bobo$41b2o!
1247 (9728 -> 6162):

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x = 78, y = 79, rule = B3/S23
20b2o$20bo2b2o$21bobo$8bo11b2o2bo$8b3o11bobo$11bo8b2obo$5bo4b2o9bo$4bo
bo7bo4bobo$4bobo6bobo3b2o$b2obobobo4bo2bo$b2obo2b2o5b2o22b2o18b2o$4bo
24bo8bobo18bo14b2o$4b2o21b3o10bo18bobo12b2o$6bo19bo13b2o18b2o$4b3o19b
2o44b4o$3bo67bo3bo$3b2o67bo$70bobo$6b2o62b2o$6bo36b2o29b2o$4bobo36b2o
30bo$4b2o69bobo$76b2o2$7b2o$3b2obobo$3b2obo$6bo$6b2o$21b2o15b2o$6b4o
11bo16b2o$2o4bo3bo11bo$bo7b2o10b2o$bobo$2b2o11bo$15b2o4bo$8bob6obo2bob
o$6b2o2b2obo2b3o2bo$7bo4bo4bo$2o6b2o5b2o$o2b2o5bo3bo$b2obo5bobobo$11b
3o$b3o8bo8bo$bo2bo15bobo36b2o$2bobo15bo2bo35bo$3bo8bo8b3o16b2o19bo$11b
3o27bo18b2o$10bobobo5bob2o17bobo8b2o4bo3b2o$10bo3bo5b2o2bo17b2o7bo2bo
3b4o2bo$8b2o5b2o6b2o27b2o7bob2o$7bo4bo4bo28b3o9b2obobo$3bo2b3o2bob2o2b
2o29bo9b2obobo$2bobo2bob6obo30bo13bob2o$3bo4b2o51bo$9bo49bobo$34bo24b
2o$14b2o16b3o17b2o$14bo16bo21bo$15b3o13b2o15b2o3bob2o$17bo9bo20b2o2b2o
bo2bo$25bobo8bo18bob2o$26b2o8b2o10b2o5bo$35bobo10bo5b2o$50bo$49b2o$21b
2o$20bobo5b2o$20bo7b2o$19b2o2$33bo$29b2obobo$28bobobobo$25bo2bobobobob
2o$25b4ob2o2bo2bo$29bo4b2o$27bobo$27b2o!
Engineering macro-spaceships is hard.

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