Thread for your chaos-edgeshooting reactions that can probably yield new conduits

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Re: Thread for your chaos-edgeshooting reactions that can probably yield new conduits

Post by Anivec » July 27th, 2024, 1:51 pm

C28 wrote:
July 27th, 2024, 12:24 pm
this H to chaos is probably known but

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x = 18, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
8b2o$9bo$9bobo$5bob2obobob2obo$5b2obobobobob2o$10bobo$9b2ob2o21$o$obo$3o$2bo!
Yep, that’s certainly known.

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Re: Thread for your chaos-edgeshooting reactions that can probably yield new conduits

Post by Jormungant » August 2nd, 2024, 1:44 pm

Ah... some new vein discovered manually for a change!?!

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x = 25, y = 15, rule = LifeHistory
$7.BC11B$6.BCBC10B$5.2BCBC10B$5.3BC11B$5.15B$3.2CB.13B$2.C.CB.13B$2.C
4.10B2CB$.2C4.9BC2BC$8.8B3CB$10.B2.3BC3B$14.6B$15.4B!
For context purpose, these are the main I heptomino precursor conduits:

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x = 268, y = 64, rule = LifeHistory
5$19.BC11B$18.BCBC10B$17.2BCBC10B$17.3BC11B143.4B$17.15B142.4B$15.2CB
.13B107.BC11B21.4B$14.C.CB.13B106.BCBC10B20.4B$14.C4.10B2D2B46.BC11B
45.2BCBC10B19.4B39.BC11B$13.2C4.9BD2BD2B44.BCBC10B45.3BC11B18.4B39.BC
BC10B$20.8B3D3B43.2BCBC10B45.15B17.4B39.2BCBC10B$22.B2.3BD6B42.3BC11B
43.2CB.13B16.4B40.3BC11B$23.13B41.15B42.C.CB.13B15.4B41.15B$23.13B39.
2CB.13B42.C4.10B2DB14.4B9.2A29.2CB.13B$18.A3.2A12B38.C.CB.13B41.2C4.
9BD2BDB12.4B10.A.A27.C.CB.13B$17.A.A2.2A12B38.C4.10B2DB48.8B3D2B11.4B
4.2A7.A27.C4.10B2DB$17.A.A3.B.12B36.2C4.9BD2BDB49.B2.3BD4B.B.12B3.B2A
B2.4A.2A24.2C4.9BD2BDB$15.3A.2A4.11B3.B7.2A31.8B3D2B51.24B4.2B3.A2.A.
A.A30.8B3D2B$14.A4.B4.12B2.4B5.A34.B2.3BD6B12.2A35.29B7.2BA.A32.B2.3B
D6B.7B$15.3AB2AB3.12B.5B.BA.A36.13B3.2B5.A37.29B7.BAB.2A32.19B$17.A.
2AB3.18B.B2A42.14B.BA.A37.30B6.2A.B2.A31.20BC$19.26B44.14B.B2A37.2A
13B2A15B2.4B.5A32.18BCB$21.25B43.16B39.2A13B2A10B3C2B.4B.BA2B2.2A30.
17B2C2B$19.27B43.16B42.25BC10B2.B2A2.A28.2A13B2A2B2C2B$19.27B42.5B3C
8B44.5B2.15B3C6BA3B4.A.2A28.2A13B2A3BC2B$19.28B41.5BCBC7B43.7B5.20BAB
A3B3.A34.18B$19.29B41.3BC2BC8B42.2A3.B8.3B.15BA4B2.2A35.5B2.10B$19.
29B40.4B2C11B42.A14.B.B.17B38.7B5.6B$20.28B40.17B39.3A14.A.2A3.3B2.3B
.4B40.2A3.B8.3B$21.26B42.15B40.A14.3A.A10.2B2.5B39.A14.B$22.19B3CB45.
14B54.A6.A15.2A36.3A15.2A$27.14BCB49.3B.8B54.2A4.2A15.A37.A18.A$26.
15B3C52.7B79.3A52.A$25.5B2.14B53.B.4B79.A52.2A$24.4B8.11B56.2A$23.4B.
3B.2B.12B56.A$13.B2.30B58.3A$12.7BD11B2A13B60.A$12.7B3D9B2A3B2D7B$10.
9BDBD14BD6B$10.11BD15B2D6B$9.BA14B2.2B2.7BD3B.2A$9.ABA10B10.9B2.A$9.A
BA8B12.9B3.3A$10.A8B15.8B4.A$10.10B15.4B.B2A$11.9B14.B2A2B.BA.A$12.8B
15.2A6.A$12.7B24.2A$13.5B$15.2B!

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Re: Thread for your chaos-edgeshooting reactions that can probably yield new conduits

Post by Tawal » August 4th, 2024, 6:26 am

confocaloid wrote:
November 10th, 2023, 2:58 am
Did anyone do systematic searches on the output of this (known) C-to-D?

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x = 41, y = 34, rule = LifeHistory
28.D$28.3D$31.D$30.2D2$29.2D$29.2D2$38.2A$38.A$36.A.A$17.A18.2A2D$9.
2A5.A.A19.2D$10.A4.2BAB$10.A.AB2.2B$11.2AB.B.6B$13.11B9.B$4.A9.10B7.
5B$3.A.A7.13B3.3B3DB3.2D$3.A.A5.20BD2BDB3.2D$.3A.2A4.19BD2BD2B$A4.B5.
20B2D3B$.3AB2AB3.25B$3.A.2A28B$7.28B$7.7B3C19B$7.7BCBC19B$8.6BC2BC3B
6.8B$7.9B2C3B9.2B$7.15B$8.13B$8.12B$9.8B$14.B!
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This simple D-to-G works here :

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x = 41, y = 37, rule = LifeHistory
17.4B$18.4B$19.4B$20.4B4.C$21.4B3.3C$22.4B5.C$23.4B3.2C$24.4B2.5B$25.
4B3.4B$26.11B$27.10B$28.10B$29.8B$30.9B$17.A11.9B2C$9.2A5.A.A11.8B2C$
10.A4.2BAB10.10B$10.A.AB2.2B10.10B$11.2AB.B.6B5.10B$13.11B5.10B$4.A9.
10B5.11B$3.A.A7.13B3.3B3D4B2C$3.A.A5.20BD2BD4B2C$.3A.2A4.19BD2BD2B3.B
$A4.B5.20B2D3B$.3AB2AB3.25B$3.A.2A28B$7.28B$7.7B3E19B$7.7BEBE19B$8.6B
E2BE3B6.8B$7.9B2E3B9.2B$7.15B$8.13B$8.12B$9.8B$14.B!
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Re: Thread for your chaos-edgeshooting reactions that can probably yield new conduits

Post by Anivec » August 9th, 2024, 11:15 am

Possibly useful:

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x = 29, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
18b2o$18b2o14$o19b2o3b2o$obo17b2o3bobo$3o24bo$2bo24b2o!

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x = 28, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
26bo$25bobo$26bo5$21b2o$21b2o4$o$obo$3o$2bo3$17b2o$17b2o!

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Re: Thread for your chaos-edgeshooting reactions that can probably yield new conduits

Post by confocaloid » August 9th, 2024, 12:04 pm

AlbertArmStain wrote:
August 9th, 2024, 11:15 am
Possibly useful:

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x = 29, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
18b2o$18b2o14$o19b2o3b2o$obo17b2o3bobo$3o24bo$2bo24b2o!

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x = 28, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
26bo$25bobo$26bo5$21b2o$21b2o4$o$obo$3o$2bo3$17b2o$17b2o!
Unexpected cases of a single object catalysing in different ways, while trying to make B283:

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x = 56, y = 37, rule = LifeHistory
45.2A$45.2A14$27.C19.2A3.2A$27.C.C17.2A3.A.A$27.3C24.A$29.C24.2A3$18.
B.7B$12.B.13B$7.21BD$2A3.D21BDB$2A2.B3D18B2D2B$5.DBD15B2A2B2D2B$7.D
15B2A3BD2B$9.2B2.2B3.11B$19.10B$22.6B$24.3B$26.B$26.2A$27.A$24.3A16.
2C$24.A18.2C!
Another oddity:

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x = 29, y = 26, rule = B3/S23
18b2o$18b2o14$o19b2o3b2o$obo17b2o3bobo$3o24bo$2bo24b2o6$2o$2o!
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Re: Thread for your chaos-edgeshooting reactions that can probably yield new conduits

Post by C28 » August 9th, 2024, 1:45 pm

confocaloid wrote:
August 9th, 2024, 12:04 pm
Another oddity:

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x = 29, y = 26, rule = B3/S23
18b2o$18b2o14$o19b2o3b2o$obo17b2o3bobo$3o24bo$2bo24b2o6$2o$2o!
h to e?

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x = 29, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
18b2o$18b2o14$o19b2o3b2o$obo17b2o3bobo$3o24bo$2bo24b2o!
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Re: Thread for your chaos-edgeshooting reactions that can probably yield new conduits

Post by Tawal » August 9th, 2024, 2:21 pm

C28 wrote:
August 9th, 2024, 1:45 pm
confocaloid wrote:
August 9th, 2024, 12:04 pm
Another oddity:

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x = 29, y = 26, rule = B3/S23
18b2o$18b2o14$o19b2o3b2o$obo17b2o3bobo$3o24bo$2bo24b2o6$2o$2o!
h to e?

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x = 29, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
18b2o$18b2o14$o19b2o3b2o$obo17b2o3bobo$3o24bo$2bo24b2o!
Yes, HBx182E
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Re: Thread for your chaos-edgeshooting reactions that can probably yield new conduits

Post by confocaloid » August 9th, 2024, 2:33 pm

Unfortunately that H-to-E-to-H might be merely a catalyst rather than an actual conduit, unless someone can find a working way to precede and follow it by other conduits. For example, if followed by Fx119, it becomes unclear where the input Herschel comes from, and its first natural glider hits a block in Fx119. Following by the transparent block reaction is problematic because the first natural glider of the input Herschel hits the block.

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x = 150, y = 54, rule = LifeHistory
129.4B$38.4B88.4B$39.4B88.4B$40.4B88.4B$41.4B87.4B$16.4B21.4B87.5B2.B
$15.4B22.5B2.B82.6B.B2A$14.4B22.6B.B2A81.8B2A$13.4B23.8B2A81.6B.2B$
12.4B24.6B.2B81.7B$11.4B24.7B83.8B$10.4B24.8B83.8B$9.7B22.8B84.8B$9.
9B21.8B79.B.12B$8.11B16.B.12B75.17B$5.13B15.17B73.18B$4.14B14.18B73.
19B$3.16B13.19B73.20B$3.17B13.20B70.23B$2.18B12.23B42.3B21.25B$2.19B
9.25B40.5B19.27B$.20B7.27B40.6B18.2BE19B2AB.B2A$20B8.2BE19B2AB.B2A36.
8B17.3BEBE17B2A2.BA.A$.21B5.3BEBE17B2A2.BA.A35.8B18.2B3E4B.10B.2B6.A$
.21B6.2B3E4B.10B.2B6.A35.9B4.B11.5BE15B9.2A$3.19B5.5BE15B9.2A32.11B3.
3B9.10B.12B$4.17B5.10B.12B40.13B2.6B6.4B8.14B$4.18B3.4B8.14B38.13B.7B
2.7B9.15B$4.24B9.15B38.28B2.2B3.20B$5.22B2.2B3.20B35.25BD31B$5.18BD
31B34.23BDBD30B$7.14BDBD30B34.21B2AB3D31B$8.13B3D31B31.D22BA2BD33B$8.
13BD33B30.2D59B$8.47B29.2D28B5.B.3B2.19B$8.15B2.4B.3B2.19B31.D26B15.
14B2.B$8.6B4.4B4.4B6.14B2.B33.D23B18.12B$7.7B5.4B4.4B6.12B38.24B18.3B
4.6B$8.6B6.4B4.4B6.3B4.6B36.25B17.3B4.B3.2A$9.6B5.5B4.4B5.3B4.B3.2A
37.20B.4B17.B4.2A3.A$9.6B5.6B4.4B5.B4.2A3.A40.18B2.4B21.A5.3A$8.8B4.
7B4.4B9.A5.3A34.B.18B4.4B21.A6.A$9.6B5.8B4.4B9.A6.A33.2A18B6.4B19.2A$
8.7B6.4B19.2A40.2A18B7.3B$3.14B5.3B62.13B3.3B8.2B$.D11B2A2B.B4.2B62.
11B.3B2.B10.B$B3D9B2A3B2A4.B64.9B2.2A$.DBD14B2A70.7B3.A$3.D15B73.4B5.
3A$5.2B2.2B2.B2.5B69.5B8.A$12.3B4.2A69.2A$12.B2AB3.A71.A$13.2A5.3A65.
3A$22.A65.A!
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Re: Thread for your chaos-edgeshooting reactions that can probably yield new conduits

Post by confocaloid » October 9th, 2024, 10:32 pm

Lx65 Herschel duplicator followed by two H-to-G makes a two-glider collision. It might be possible to make some new H-to-X conduits by adding catalysts.

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x = 53, y = 73, rule = LifeHistory
17.2A8.2A$18.A8.A$18.A.2A2.BA.A$19.AB.A.B2A$20.B2A2B$21.5B$13.B8.4B$
12.3B2.3B.4B5.2A$12.14B4.A.A$10.17B5.A$10.21B2A.2A.A$9.24B.A.2A$9.21B
4.A$8.22B3.2A4.2C$8.21B10.2C$8.22B.B$6.2AB.21B2A18.2C$5.A.AB3.19B2A
18.2C$5.A7.19B16.C$4.2A7.11B.7B15.C.C$14.16B17.C2.C$13.11B2.4B18.2C$
13.11B3.4B$13.11B4.4B$13.B3D4B2.B2A3.4B$13.2BD4B3.BA.A3.4B$13.2B3D2B
6.A4.4B$13.6B7.2A4.4B$28.A$2A23.A.2A$.A21.3A.A$.A.A18.A4.A$2.2A18.2A
3.2A3$22.A$21.A.A$20.A2.A2.2A$21.2A3.2A$2.C$2.C.C29.B$2.3C15.2A11.2B$
4.C15.2A10.3B$26.2B3.4B3.2C$25.4B.4B3.C.C$25.8B4.C$23.9B4.2C$11.7B4.
9B$12.6B4.8B$12.2B3D2B3.8B$12.2BD4B3.8B$12.B3D4B.9B$12.18B$12.17B$12.
17B6.A$13.17B3.3A$16.14B2.A$15.15B2.2A$14.15B.4B$13.19B$11.B.19BA$10.
2A19BA.A$10.2A18B.B2A$11.19B2.B$9.5B.14B$9.2A4.13B$10.A5.9B.B$7.3A9.
5B$7.A14.4B$24.2A$24.A$25.3A$27.A!
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Re: Thread for your chaos-edgeshooting reactions that can probably yield new conduits

Post by whatislife » October 10th, 2024, 6:31 pm

I noticed that the above is a 2-glider-mess factory, and I already had input files for 2-glider-mess in Silk, so I gave this a look. One large spark turned out to be a century, making a composite H-to-century conduit that I think is named HFx326C (identified manually, please double check).

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x = 61, y = 89, rule = LifeHistory
6.D3.D.5D8.3D3.3D3.3D3.3D$6.D3.D.D11.D3.D.D3.D.D5.D3.D$6.D3.D.D5.D3.D
5.D5.D.D5.D$6.5D.3D4.D.D4.2D5.D2.4D2.D$6.D3.D.D7.D7.D3.D3.D3.D.D$6.D
3.D.D6.D.D2.D3.D2.D4.D3.D.D3.D$6.D3.D.D5.D3.D2.3D2.5D2.3D3.3D10$21.2A
8.2A$22.A8.A$22.A.2A2.BA.A$23.AB.A.B2A$24.B2A2B$25.5B$17.B8.4B$16.3B
2.3B.4B5.2A$16.14B4.A.A$14.17B5.A$14.21B2A.2A.A$13.24B.A.2A$13.21B4.A
$12.22B3.2A$12.21B$12.22B.B$10.2AB.21B2A$9.A.AB3.19B2A$9.A7.19B$8.2A
7.11B.7B$18.16B$17.11B2.4B$17.11B3.4B$17.11B4.4B$17.B3D4B2.B2A3.4B14.
2A$17.2BD4B3.BA.A3.4B12.A.A$17.2B3D2B6.A4.4B7.2A2.A$17.6B7.2A4.4B4.BA
B.A.2A$16.7B9.A4.4B3.2BABA.A2.A$4.2A9.8B6.A.2A5.4B.3B.A2B2.2A$5.A8.8B
5.3A.A7.11B$5.A.AB4.9B4.A4.A8.9B$6.2AB.6B.6B3.2A3.2A7.9B$8.7B.8B.3B
11.10B$8.18B13.11B$8.18BAB10.13B$7.18BABAB.B7.13B$6.18BA2BA2B2A6.15B$
4.18B.2B2AB.B2A6.15B$4.2BC15B2.3B3.B8.14B$3.3BCBC4B.7B2.3B12.13B2.2B$
4.2B3C4B2.6B2.B2AB10.13B2.4B$3.5BC5B.7B2.2A10.4B.16B$2.13B.6B8.2B3.4B
3.15B$.4B7.9B8.4B.4B5.B2A11B2D$4B9.8B8.8B6.B2A11BDB2D$3B11.8B5.9B7.
17BD$2B13.7B4.9B9.14B3D$16.6B4.8B10.14B$16.2B3D2B3.8B13.3B2.5B$16.2BD
4B3.8B18.5B$16.B3D4B.9B20.B$16.18B$16.17B$16.17B6.A$17.17B3.3A$20.14B
2.A$19.15B2.2A$18.15B.4B$17.19B$15.B.19BA$14.2A19BA.A$14.2A18B.B2A$
15.19B2.B$13.5B.14B$13.2A4.13B$14.A5.9B.B$11.3A9.5B$11.A14.4B$28.2A$
28.A$29.3A$31.A!
Plain life version:

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x = 50, y = 73, rule = B3/S23
17b2o8b2o$18bo8bo$18bob2o3bobo$19bo2bo2b2o$21b2o3$30b2o$30bobo$32bo$
31b2ob2obo$34bob2o$34bo$33b2o3$6b2o23b2o$5bobo23b2o$5bo$4b2o5$24b2o21b
2o$24bobo19bobo$26bo15b2o2bo$26b2o13bo2bob2o$28bo13bobobo2bo$2o23bob2o
14bo4b2o$bo21b3obo$bobo18bo4bo$2b2o18b2o3b2o3$22bo$21bobo$20bo2bo2b2o$
21b2o3b2o$2bo$2bobo$2b3o15b2o$4bo15b2o2$40b2o$40b2o9$35bo$33b3o$32bo$
32b2o3$32bo$10b2o19bobo$10b2o20b2o3$9b2o$10bo$7b3o$7bo$24b2o$24bo$25b
3o$27bo!
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Re: Thread for your chaos-edgeshooting reactions that can probably yield new conduits

Post by MathAndCode » March 8th, 2025, 1:58 am

Tawal wrote:
March 7th, 2025, 10:46 pm
R364 RT175 (x=36,y=39)

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x = 59, y = 95, rule = LifeHistory
19.4D3.3D3.3D5.D$19.D3.D.D3.D.D7.2D$19.D3.D5.D.D6.D.D$19.4D3.3D2.4D2.
D2.D$19.D2.D6.D.D3.D.5D$19.D3.D.D3.D.D3.D4.D$19.D3.D2.3D3.3D5.D5$12.
2A$11.B2AB5.2A$12.3B5.A$13.B3.BA.A$9.7B.B2A$8.10B$8.7B2AB$8.6BA2BA$6.
2AB.5B2AB$5.A.AB.8B$5.A4.8B3.2B$4.2A5.12B$11.14B$11.15B$9.18B$7.21B$
7.2BC19B$6.3BCBC17B5.3B.B$7.2B3C17B4.7B$6.5BC29B2.B$5.10B.25B.B2A$4.
4B9.26B2A$4.3B10.24B.2B$2.4B12.23B$2.2A14.22B$3.A16.20B$3A17.23B.2B$A
19.25B2A$19.26B2A$19.24B.2B$20.23B9.D$20.24B7.B2D$22.23B5.BDBD$24.8B
2.12B2.5B$25.7B4.16B$26.5B5.16B$28.2B6.17B$34.18B$23.2A8.19B$24.A7.
14B3D3B$24.A.AB4.17BD2B$25.2AB.16BD2BD3B$27.2B2A14B3D5B$27.BA.AB2.19B
$28.2A5.18B$36.17B$38.4B.9B$37.B2AB2.9B$38.2A3.8B$43.7B$36.D7.6B$36.
3D4.6B$39.D4.5B$38.D.D3.6B$39.D4.6B$44.5B$44.2B3D$40.2D3.BDB$40.2D3.
3D$46.B6$22.D2.D2.5D.5D.D$21.D2.2D6.D.D6.D$20.D4.D5.D2.D7.D$20.D4.D5.
D3.3D4.D$20.D4.D4.D7.D3.D$21.D3.D4.D3.D3.D2.D$22.D.3D3.D4.3D2.D5$3.D
14.3D3.3D18.3D3.3D2.D$2.D2.D3.D.5D.D3.D.D8.D3.D.5D.D3.D.D3.D2.D$.D4.D
.D12.D.D8.D3.D11.D.D3.D3.D$.D5.D10.3D2.4D5.D3.D8.3D3.4D3.D$.D4.D.D12.
D.D3.D5.4D11.D5.D3.D$2.D2.D3.D.5D.D3.D.D3.D2.D5.D.5D.D3.D5.D2.D$3.D
14.3D3.3D3.D5.D8.3D3.3D2.D$29.D3.3D!
The red cells inside the conduit are the predecessor of the H+G output.
Tawal's initial reaction is effective at edgeshooting chaos. As another example, here is a way to make a B-heptomino and two gliders.

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x = 65, y = 51, rule = LifeHistory
12.2A37.4B$11.B2AB5.2A28.4B$12.3B5.A28.4B$13.B3.BA.A27.4B$9.7B.B2A27.
4B$8.10B28.4B$8.7B2AB27.4B$8.6BA2BA26.4B$6.2AB.5B2AB25.4B$5.A.AB.8B24.
4B$5.A4.8B3.2B18.4B$4.2A5.12B17.4B$11.14B14.4B$11.15B12.4B$9.18B10.4B
$7.21B8.4B24.B$7.2BC19B6.4B24.2B$6.3BCBC19B3.5B23.3B$7.2B3C20B.7B21.4B
$6.5BC29B2.B16.4B$5.10B.25B.B2A14.4B$4.4B9.26B2A13.4B$4.3B10.24B.2B13.
4B$2.4B12.23B15.4B$2.2A14.24B13.4B$3.A16.23B11.4B$3A17.24B9.4B$A19.23B
9.4B$19.25B7.4B$19.24B7.4B$20.23B6.4B$20.25B3.4B$22.29B$24.8B2.16B$25.
7B3.14B$26.5B5.13B$28.2B7.12B$36.12B$34.13B$33.2D12B$32.2D12B$33.2D10B
$34.D2B.5B$37.4B$37.4B$38.2B$36.4B$36.2A$37.A$34.3A$34.A!
What else can we make with this?
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Re: Thread for your chaos-edgeshooting reactions that can probably yield new conduits

Post by confocaloid » March 8th, 2025, 2:13 am

MathAndCode wrote:
March 8th, 2025, 1:58 am
Tawal wrote:
March 7th, 2025, 10:46 pm
R364 RT175 (x=36,y=39) [...]
Tawal's initial reaction is effective at edgeshooting chaos. [...] What else can we make with this?
The initial catalysts are a (known) Spartan replacement for a (previously known) non-Spartan catalyst:
viewtopic.php?p=189357#p189357
viewtopic.php?p=167364#p167364
viewtopic.php?p=167371#p167371

Maybe consider adding this H-to-chaos catalysis as a separate conduit (with some arbitrary markup/notation to allow connecting it). It seems to appear in multiple conduits. Not sure whether there are alternative ways to shoot "the same chaos", though.
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Re: Thread for your chaos-edgeshooting reactions that can probably yield new conduits

Post by Tawal » March 11th, 2025, 8:09 am

A long chaos-edgeshooting :

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x =0, y = 0, rule = LifeHistory
12.2A$12.2A6.2A$20.A$18.A.A$18.2A2$15.2A$14.A2.A$6.2A7.2A$5.A.A$5.A$
4.2A2$30.2A$30.2A2$9.C$9.C.C$9.3C$11.C4$43.D$2.2A38.D.D$3.A38.2D3.2D$
3A44.2D$A3$18.2A$19.A24.E$16.3A24.E.E$16.A26.E.E$44.E2$38.2A$38.A$39.
3A$41.A5.2A$47.2A!
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Re: Thread for your chaos-edgeshooting reactions that can probably yield new conduits

Post by get_Snacked » March 12th, 2025, 1:24 pm

Tawal wrote:
March 11th, 2025, 8:09 am
A long chaos-edgeshooting :

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x =0, y = 0, rule = LifeHistory
12.2A$12.2A6.2A$20.A$18.A.A$18.2A2$15.2A$14.A2.A$6.2A7.2A$5.A.A$5.A$
4.2A2$30.2A$30.2A2$9.C$9.C.C$9.3C$11.C4$43.D$2.2A38.D.D$3.A38.2D3.2D$
3A44.2D$A3$18.2A$19.A24.E$16.3A24.E.E$16.A26.E.E$44.E2$38.2A$38.A$39.
3A$41.A5.2A$47.2A!
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The red marked Boat and Block seem hard to delete properly …
produces an R-pentomino and a glider, connected to a bright-green RF28B to show connectability. hopefully the glider can be sent back to destroy the constellation

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x = 67, y = 41, rule = LifeHistory
12.2A50.2C$12.2A6.2A42.C$20.A41.C.C$18.A.A41.2C$18.2A$44.2A$15.2A28.A
$14.A2.A27.A.2A$6.2A7.2A29.A.A16.C$5.A.A31.2A23.C.C$5.A34.A24.C$4.2A34.
A.A$41.2A$30.2A$30.2A2$9.C$9.C.C$9.3C51.2A.A$11.C51.A.2A4$43.D$2.2A38.
D.D$3.A38.2D3.2D$3A44.2D$A3$18.2A$19.A24.E$16.3A24.E.E$16.A26.E.E$44.
E2$38.2A$38.A$39.3A$41.A5.2A$47.2A!

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Re: Thread for your chaos-edgeshooting reactions that can probably yield new conduits

Post by Tawal » March 12th, 2025, 1:45 pm

get_Snacked wrote:
March 12th, 2025, 1:24 pm
Tawal wrote:
March 11th, 2025, 8:09 am
A long chaos-edgeshooting :
[…]
produces an R-pentomino and a glider, connected to a bright-green RF28B to show connectability. hopefully the glider can be sent back to destroy the constellation

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snip
Sorry so, but it is also already known.
I've posted a solution to get the SE Glider only :(
From the R output, there is 2 lanes that work to delete the constellation : RSW3… and RSW1…
See this post : viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1682&p=206624#p206624
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Re: Thread for your chaos-edgeshooting reactions that can probably yield new conduits

Post by Anivec » May 28th, 2025, 5:19 pm

H-to-good-luck-cleaning-up-all-the-junk.

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x = 69, y = 62, rule = B3/S23
27b2o$24b2o2bo$24bo3bob2o$25b3obobo$27bobo$22b2o4bobo$21bo2bo4bo$20bo
bobo$21bo2b2o$22b2o$24b2o$24bo$22bobo$22b2o2$67bo$66bobo$66bobo$67bo4$
22bo$14b2o4b3o$11bobo2bo2bo$9b3ob3o3b2o$8bo$8bobob2o$9b2ob2o11$4bo28b
2o$4bobo17b2o7b2o$4b3o17bobob2o$6bo18b2obo2bo$30b2o2$2o22b2o$2o22b2o2b
2o$28bobo$30bo$8b2o20b2o$7bobo$7bo$6b2o2$14b2ob2o$13bobobobo$11b3o3bo
bo$10bo4bobob3o$11b3ob2obo3bo$13bo4bo2b2o$15b3o$14b2o!

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Re: Thread for your chaos-edgeshooting reactions that can probably yield new conduits

Post by Tawal » May 30th, 2025, 3:46 am

R to north Chaos, may be interesting :

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x = 208, y = 50, rule = LifeHistory
128.2A$128.2A3$137.A$136.A.A$136.A.A66.A$135.2A.2A64.A.A$134.A6.A63.
2A$134.2A.2A.2A$138.A.A$134.4A2.A$134.A3.2A$64.2A69.3A$64.A72.A65.A.
2A$66.A70.A.A63.2A.A$62.5A71.2A$62.A$64.B4A$58.3B3.BA2.A$15.A40.3D9B
7.A59.A69.A$13.3A39.D3BD7B6.3A57.3A67.3A$12.A41.D5BD9B2.A59.A69.A$12.
2A41.D3BD11B.2A58.2A68.2A$56.3D15B$58.14B$59.15B$57.17B$56.18B$14.2A
39.17B.B2A58.2A68.2A$14.A.A39.16B.BA.A57.A.A67.A.A$16.A42.12B5.A59.A
69.A$16.2A40.12B6.2A58.2A68.2A$58.11B$58.11B$59.10B$58.11B$57.11B$.C
54.5BC6B53.C69.C$.2C54.4B2C5B.B51.2C68.2C$2C7.2A47.2B2C7B2A49.2C7.2A
59.2C7.2A$9.2A48.10B2A58.2A68.2A$60.10B$61.B.7B$63.5B$66.4B$8.2A56.2B
2A58.2A68.2A$8.A59.A59.A69.A$9.3A57.3A57.3A67.3A$11.A59.A59.A69.A!
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Re: Thread for your chaos-edgeshooting reactions that can probably yield new conduits

Post by Anivec » June 12th, 2025, 6:13 pm

Possibly useful conduit that makes two Bs and a pi:

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x = 51, y = 67, rule = LifeHistory
45.A$44.A.A$45.A2$49.A$43.2A3.A.A$43.A.A3.A$44.2A20$18.A$10.2A4.3A$7.
A.A2.A2.A$5.3A.3A3.2A$4.A$4.A.A.2A$5.2A.2A11$C28.2A$C.C17.2A7.2A$3C17.
A.A.2A$2.C18.2A.A2.A$26.2A2$20.2A$20.2A2.2A$24.A.A$26.A$4.2A20.2A$3.A
.A$3.A$2.2A2$10.2A.2A$9.A.A.A.A$7.3A3.A.A$6.A4.A.A.3A$7.3A.2A.A3.A$9.
A4.A2.2A$11.3A$10.2A!

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Re: Thread for your chaos-edgeshooting reactions that can probably yield new conduits

Post by Tawal » June 18th, 2025, 8:55 am

Cross-posting an interesting H to north chaos from Quantum-mechanics :

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x = 34, y = 27, rule = LifeHistory
3.A30.$3.3A28.$6.A27.$5.2A27.$34.$34.$34.$34.$34.$34.$4.A29.$4.A.A27.
$4.3A27.$6.A27.$23.2A9.$22.A2.A2.2A4.$2A20.A.A4.A2.A.$2A21.A5.A.A.A$
10.2A14.2A.A2.A$10.A2.A2.A.A.A5.A2.A$11.6A.2A.A.A4.A$21.A.5A$13.2A6.A
$13.2A5.2A3.A$24.A.A$25.A!
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Edit:
One cell reduced (BD and population) from the original one.
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Re: Thread for your chaos-edgeshooting reactions that can probably yield new conduits

Post by Anivec » June 18th, 2025, 8:00 pm

Tawal wrote:
June 18th, 2025, 8:55 am
Cross-posting an interesting H to north chaos from Quantum-mechanics :

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x = 34, y = 27, rule = LifeHistory
3.A30.$3.3A28.$6.A27.$5.2A27.$34.$34.$34.$34.$34.$34.$4.A29.$4.A.A27.
$4.3A27.$6.A27.$23.2A9.$22.A2.A2.2A4.$2A20.A.A4.A2.A.$2A21.A5.A.A.A$
10.2A14.2A.A2.A$10.A2.A2.A.A.A5.A2.A$11.6A.2A.A.A4.A$21.A.5A$13.2A6.A
$13.2A5.2A3.A$24.A.A$25.A!
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Edit:
One cell reduced (BD and population) from the original one.
This has been known for a long time. I can’t find the original post however.
EDIT:
I found the original post, it’s been known since 2015.
Kazyan wrote:
February 5th, 2015, 3:38 pm
EDIT: But this one is very promising, assuming it doesn't duplicate something we already know about; I don't know all the conduits. Eater 3 added to get the reaction moving in a nice direction.

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x = 31, y = 27, rule = B3/S23
o$3o$3bo$2b2o7$bo$bobo$b3o$3bo$20b2o$19bo2bo2b2o$19bobo4bo2bo$20bo5bob
obo$7b2o14b2obo2bo$7bo2bo2bobobo5bo2bo$8b6ob2obobo4bo$18bob5o$10b2o6b
2o$10b2o9b2o$22bo$21bo$21b2o!
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Re: Thread for your chaos-edgeshooting reactions that can probably yield new conduits

Post by Jormungant » June 19th, 2025, 5:19 am

Indeed, found it in the collection I think:

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x = 107, y = 67, rule = LifeHistory
7$10.D3.D.4D10.D4.3D3.3D2.4D$10.D3.D.D3.D8.2D3.D3.D.D3.D.D3.D$10.D3.D
.D3.D.D3.D3.D7.D.D3.D.D3.D$10.5D.4D3.D.D4.D5.2D3.3D2.4D$10.D3.D.D3.D
3.D5.D7.D.D3.D.D3.D$10.D3.D.D3.D2.D.D4.D3.D3.D.D3.D.D3.D$10.D3.D.4D2.
D3.D2.3D3.3D3.3D2.4D10$37.B$35.D3B$34.D5B9.A$33.2D5B7.3A$32.2B2D7B3.A
$31.4BD8B2.2A$30.14B.3B$29.17B$29.18B$29.18B$27.2AB.16B$26.A.AB.14B$
26.A4.14B$25.2A3.16B.2A$19.A9.18B.A$19.3A7.15B3.A20.A$22.A7.14B2.A21.
3A$21.2A3.B3.13B4.3A21.A$21.8B.15B4.A20.2A$23.18B2.2A$23.17B3.A$22.
17B5.3A$20.19B7.A$18.21B$18.2BA18B3.2A$17.3BABA16B.B2.A25.A$18.2B3A
17B3A26.A.A$17.5BA14B2.BA28.3A$16.10B.9B5.2A28.A$16.3B9.8B6.A45.2A$
16.2A11.7B4.A46.A2.A2.2A$16.2A12.6B4.2A23.2A20.A.A4.A2.A$26.2A2.2B.2B
30.2A21.A5.A.A.A$26.A2.A2.A.A.A38.2A14.2A.A2.A$27.6A.2A.A37.A2.A2.A.A
.A5.A2.A$37.A38.6A.2A.A.A4.A$29.2A6.2A47.A.5A$29.2A47.2A6.A$78.2A5.2A
3.A$89.A.A$90.A!
it is equivalent, but more clearance for possible follow up I guess.

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Re: Thread for your chaos-edgeshooting reactions that can probably yield new conduits

Post by C28 » June 21st, 2025, 12:36 pm

Tawal wrote:
May 30th, 2025, 3:46 am
R to north Chaos, may be interesting :

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x = 208, y = 50, rule = LifeHistory
128.2A$128.2A3$137.A$136.A.A$136.A.A66.A$135.2A.2A64.A.A$134.A6.A63.
2A$134.2A.2A.2A$138.A.A$134.4A2.A$134.A3.2A$64.2A69.3A$64.A72.A65.A.
2A$66.A70.A.A63.2A.A$62.5A71.2A$62.A$64.B4A$58.3B3.BA2.A$15.A40.3D9B
7.A59.A69.A$13.3A39.D3BD7B6.3A57.3A67.3A$12.A41.D5BD9B2.A59.A69.A$12.
2A41.D3BD11B.2A58.2A68.2A$56.3D15B$58.14B$59.15B$57.17B$56.18B$14.2A
39.17B.B2A58.2A68.2A$14.A.A39.16B.BA.A57.A.A67.A.A$16.A42.12B5.A59.A
69.A$16.2A40.12B6.2A58.2A68.2A$58.11B$58.11B$59.10B$58.11B$57.11B$.C
54.5BC6B53.C69.C$.2C54.4B2C5B.B51.2C68.2C$2C7.2A47.2B2C7B2A49.2C7.2A
59.2C7.2A$9.2A48.10B2A58.2A68.2A$60.10B$61.B.7B$63.5B$66.4B$8.2A56.2B
2A58.2A68.2A$8.A59.A59.A69.A$9.3A57.3A57.3A67.3A$11.A59.A59.A69.A!
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Re: Thread for your chaos-edgeshooting reactions that can probably yield new conduits

Post by Anivec » August 2nd, 2025, 6:21 pm

H-to-NW-Chaos:

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x = 20, y = 48, rule = LifeHistory
14.2A$14.A$15.A$12.4A$12.A$15.3A$15.A2.A$17.A.A$18.A8$C$C.C$3C$2.C14.
2A$17.2A11$6.2A$7.A5.A$4.3A5.A.A$4.A7.A.A$13.A2$3.2A12.2A$3.2A12.A.A$
18.A5$10.2A3.2A$11.A3.A$8.3A5.3A$8.A9.A!

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Re: Thread for your chaos-edgeshooting reactions that can probably yield new conduits

Post by Gustone » August 23rd, 2025, 3:44 pm

B to chaos + blinker residue...

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x = 20, y = 17, rule = LifeHistory
11.2C$11.2C5.2C$18.C$16.C.C$16.2C4$2E$.2E$2E$E2$16.2C$9.2C5.C$9.2C6.
3C$19.C!

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Re: Thread for your chaos-edgeshooting reactions that can probably yield new conduits

Post by Anivec » August 23rd, 2025, 7:12 pm

Gustone wrote:
August 23rd, 2025, 3:44 pm
B to chaos + blinker residue...

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x = 20, y = 17, rule = LifeHistory
11.2C$11.2C5.2C$18.C$16.C.C$16.2C4$2E$.2E$2E$E2$16.2C$9.2C5.C$9.2C6.
3C$19.C!
Complete periodic versions exist:
MathAndCode wrote:
December 30th, 2020, 5:37 pm
Here are the periods for which I have found sparkers that can support BR176P.
p3:

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x = 43, y = 39, rule = LifeHistory
40.3D$42.D$40.3D7$24.2A$8.C.2C13.A$8.3C11.3A$9.C12.A7$14.2A$14.2A$2A$
2A4$3.2A8.2A$4.A8.A.A$.3A11.A$.A13.2A2$10.A$7.2A.2A$7.5A$10.2A$10.A2$
10.A.A$11.A!
p4:

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x = 43, y = 42, rule = LifeHistory
40.3D$42.D$40.3D7$24.2A$8.C.2C13.A$8.3C11.3A$9.C12.A7$14.2A$14.2A$2A$
2A4$3.2A8.2A$4.A8.A.A$.3A11.A$.A13.2A2$8.3A2$7.A3.A$7.A3.A2$7.A3.A$6.
A.3A.A$6.A5.A$5.2A.A.A.2A$4.A2.2A.2A2.A$4.2A7.2A!
p5:

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x = 43, y = 43, rule = LifeHistory
40.3D$42.D$40.3D7$24.2A$8.C.2C13.A$8.3C11.3A$9.C12.A7$14.2A$14.2A$2A$
2A4$3.2A8.2A$4.A8.A.A$.3A11.A$.A13.2A$8.A$8.A2$6.A.A.A$4.9A$3.A9.A$2.
A.2A5.2A.A$.A2.A.2A.2A.A2.A$.2A4.A.A4.2A2$4.A2.A.A2.A$4.A2.A.A2.A$5.2A3.2A!
p7:

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x = 43, y = 44, rule = LifeHistory
40.3D$42.D$40.3D7$24.2A$8.C.2C13.A$8.3C11.3A$9.C12.A7$14.2A$14.2A$2A$
2A4$3.2A8.2A$4.A8.A.A$.3A11.A$.A13.2A2$11.A$8.3A.A$3.2A2.A$3.2A2.A3.2A
$8.A4.A$9.4A2$9.4A$8.A4.A$3.2A2.A3.2A$3.2A2.A$8.3A.A$11.A!
p22:

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x = 54, y = 42, rule = LifeHistory
51.3D$53.D$51.3D7$35.2A$19.C.2C13.A$19.3C11.3A$20.C12.A7$25.2A$25.2A$
11.2A$11.2A4$14.2A8.2A$15.A8.A.A$12.3A11.A$12.A13.2A3$2A7.A6.A4.A$.A7.
A5.2A$.A.A5.A4.3A$2.2A3.2A4.2A.A.2A$11.A2.A2.2A.A$6.A.2A2.A2.A$7.2A.A
.2A4.2A3.2A$10.3A4.A5.A.A$10.2A5.A7.A$5.A4.A6.A7.2A!

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